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  1. 2015-11-25 20:39:04     n-tech  hey
  2. 2015-11-25 20:39:13     n-tech  can you please give me the password details of user "che", owner of /leftypol/
  3. 2015-11-25 20:39:22     n-tech  i need the salt and hash
  4. 2015-11-25 20:39:37     n-tech  he's saying it's not working for him and i'm definite it's just him but I want to check
  5. 2015-11-25 21:01:57     copypaste       could be someone fucking with you
  6. 2015-11-25 21:02:00     copypaste       how do you know it's him
  7. 2015-11-25 21:02:11     n-tech  I don't, which is why I'm not engaging him at all
  8. 2015-11-25 21:02:16     n-tech  But he's been at it for days
  9. 2015-11-25 21:02:25     copypaste       ok i'll tell you but don't tell him
  10. 2015-11-25 21:02:27     n-tech  He won't give me the password to try it myself
  11. 2015-11-25 21:02:29     copypaste       until you know
  12. 2015-11-25 21:02:31     n-tech  ye
  13. 2015-11-25 21:02:44     copypaste       i think he's a troll, why won't he give it to you?
  14. 2015-11-25 21:02:58     n-tech  he said his password is 32 characters so he might just be paranoid
  15. 2015-11-25 21:03:10     copypaste       | id   | username | password                                                         | salt                             | type | boards   | email                        |
  16. 2015-11-25 21:03:10     copypaste       +------+----------+------------------------------------------------------------------+----------------------------------+------+----------+------------------------------+
  17. 2015-11-25 21:03:10     copypaste       [ personal information about BO removed ]
  18. 2015-11-25 21:07:32     n-tech  no match. he might of changed it. i don't know what to tell him.
  19. 2015-11-25 21:07:37     n-tech  in fact he said he did in the thread
  20. 2015-11-25 21:07:42     n-tech  so now i have no way of knowing if it matched to begin with
  21. 2015-11-25 21:07:45     n-tech  fucking moron
  22. 2015-11-25 22:10:15     copypaste       just call him a retard and mvoe on
  23. 2015-11-25 22:10:35     n-tech  people are having fun with stuff
  24. 2015-11-25 22:10:40     n-tech  like i added crossboard linking
  25. 2015-11-25 22:10:46     n-tech  so now people will go onto something like /faggot/
  26. 2015-11-25 22:10:48     n-tech  and link a post
  27. 2015-11-25 22:10:51     n-tech  so it shows up there too
  28. 2015-11-25 22:10:52     n-tech  lol
  29. 2015-11-25 23:40:54     copypaste       i have literally played san andreas for almost a week straight
  30. 2015-11-25 23:40:59     copypaste       i don't remember three quarters of this game
  31. 2015-11-25 23:41:03     copypaste       i don't even think i beat it as a kid
  32. 2015-11-25 23:41:16     copypaste       i had the PS2 version, the PC version is sweet because of all the mods
  33. 2015-11-25 23:41:26     copypaste       some of them don't work with Wine though ;_;
  34. 2015-11-25 23:42:23     copypaste       i read this article about the save file format and made one of my cars bullet proof and dent-proof
  35. 2015-11-25 23:42:29     copypaste       using a hex editor
  36. 2015-11-25 23:42:37     copypaste       because the mod didn't work for me and i will not use windows
  37. 2015-11-25 23:42:39     copypaste       [/blog]
  38. 2015-11-25 23:47:14     n-tech  lol
  39. 2015-11-25 23:47:20     n-tech  you can get x-proof'd cars legitimately
  40. 2015-11-25 23:47:26     n-tech  there are guides on it
  41. 2015-11-25 23:47:33     copypaste       oh
  42. 2015-11-25 23:47:35     copypaste       OK
  43. 2015-11-25 23:47:41     n-tech  not like
  44. 2015-11-25 23:47:43     n-tech  any car
  45. 2015-11-25 23:47:46     n-tech  you have to save mission vehicles
  46. 2015-11-25 23:47:55     n-tech  sometimes missions give you invincible cars
  47. 2015-11-25 23:47:56     copypaste       oh, i gotcha
  48. 2015-11-25 23:48:04     copypaste       yeah i read that
  49. 2015-11-25 23:48:05     copypaste       somewhere
  50. 2015-11-25 23:48:10     copypaste       like "The Green Sabre"
  51. 2015-11-25 23:48:16     n-tech  ye
  52. 2015-11-25 23:48:24     n-tech  i think that might be the easiest I forget
  53. 2015-11-25 23:48:29     n-tech  like there's one early one that's 100% everything proof
  54. 2015-11-25 23:48:33     n-tech  all you gotta do is drive away with it
  55. 2015-11-25 23:49:48     copypaste       other than fucking with the save file a bit in a hex editor i haven't cheated
  56. 2015-11-25 23:49:53     copypaste       i remember this game being super hard as a kid
  57. 2015-11-25 23:49:55     copypaste       now it's just long
  58. 2015-11-25 23:49:56     copypaste       lol
  59. 2015-11-25 23:53:28     copypaste       sorry i haven't really been doing much, but i think you understand
  60. 2015-11-25 23:53:37     copypaste       i mean you're the one that's getting paid to do it lol
  61. 2015-11-25 23:54:18     copypaste       still pissed off about this, fucking assholes
  62. 2015-11-25 23:54:20     copypaste       https://stackoverflow.com/questions/33566233/how-do-i-convert-libsodium-private-keys-to-openpgp-compatible-private-key-packet
  63. 2015-11-25 23:54:24     copypaste       9 points, 2 stars
  64. 2015-11-25 23:54:26     copypaste       no answes
  65. 2015-11-25 23:55:17     copypaste       why can't libsodium just output openpgp format
  66. 2015-11-25 23:55:20     copypaste       how was this feature ommitted
  67. 2015-11-25 23:55:21     copypaste       (。 ‿°)
  68. 2015-11-25 23:56:00     n-tech  did you ever bounty it?
  69. 2015-11-26 00:02:13     copypaste       yep i put 500 on itt
  70. 2015-11-26 00:02:15     copypaste       that's the max
  71. 2015-11-26 00:02:34     copypaste       https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSC9cgvtkRs
  72. 2015-11-26 00:02:36     copypaste       lel
  73. 2015-11-26 00:02:40     copypaste       but bounties expire on SO
  74. 2015-11-26 00:02:48     copypaste       i could put another 5
  75. 2015-11-26 00:02:52     copypaste       until i run out of rep
  76. 2015-11-26 00:03:12     n-tech  wait what
  77. 2015-11-26 00:03:17     n-tech  so if you bounty for 500 and nobody answers it
  78. 2015-11-26 00:03:20     n-tech  you LOSE that reputation permanently?
  79. 2015-11-26 00:03:24     n-tech  that almost sounds like a bug
  80. 2015-11-26 00:06:10     copypaste       no that's part of it
  81. 2015-11-26 00:06:20     copypaste       (this reputation is deducted immediately and cannot be refunded)
  82. 2015-11-26 00:06:24     copypaste       that's what it says
  83. 2015-11-26 00:06:29     copypaste       on the "Start a bounty" page
  84. 2015-11-26 00:10:43     n-tech  wow that's gay
  85. 2015-11-26 00:16:47     copypaste       don't worry so much about these nerds
  86. 2015-11-26 00:16:54     copypaste       just reading that thread, all that rage over nothing
  87. 2015-11-26 00:16:57     copypaste       we all went to 4chan
  88. 2015-11-26 00:16:59     copypaste       who cares?
  89. 2015-11-26 00:17:01     copypaste       lol
  90. 2015-11-26 00:17:29     n-tech  I don't worry. I'm very confident. I still get pissed off at stupid people.
  91. 2015-11-26 00:17:32     n-tech  I like making people feel bad.
  92. 2015-11-26 00:17:35     n-tech  That's why I run the Kiwi Farms.
  93. 2015-11-26 00:17:51     n-tech  People seriously overestimate how emotionally involved I am in things. I use bombastic language because it's fun.
  94. 2015-11-26 00:19:11     n-tech  https://beta.8ch.net/art/catalog/
  95. 2015-11-26 00:19:11     n-tech  btw
  96. 2015-11-26 00:19:14     n-tech  you should review this
  97. 2015-11-26 00:19:19     n-tech  i may make this the design of the new catalog
  98. 2015-11-26 00:19:22     n-tech  that's exactly what I wanted
  99. 2015-11-26 00:20:39     copypaste       same with me
  100. 2015-11-26 00:21:07     copypaste       if jim told me tomorrow he was pulling the plug on all the servers because it made no financial sense
  101. 2015-11-26 00:21:12     copypaste       i'd say "yeah that makes sense"
  102. 2015-11-26 00:21:28     n-tech  I'd probably start hosting an alternative tbh. I know how I can make it work.
  103. 2015-11-26 00:21:30     n-tech  I've got a vision
  104. 2015-11-26 00:21:34     n-tech  a singaporean dream
  105. 2015-11-26 00:21:40     copypaste       i know hehe
  106. 2015-11-26 00:21:50     copypaste       i would probably too, but way less people than now
  107. 2015-11-26 00:22:02     copypaste       i'd make it a hidden service and run it anonymously
  108. 2015-11-26 00:22:05     copypaste       work with uguu on it
  109. 2015-11-26 00:22:23     copypaste       and of course keep tkaing contracts for 2ch
  110. 2015-11-26 00:22:29     copypaste       my life really wouldn't change much tbh
  111. 2015-11-26 00:28:11     copypaste       really clearnet sucks
  112. 2015-11-26 00:28:15     copypaste       too many ignorant nerds
  113. 2015-11-26 00:28:21     copypaste       and way too many threats
  114. 2015-11-26 00:28:26     copypaste       domains, DDoS, hosting companies
  115. 2015-11-26 00:28:29     copypaste       fuck all of them
  116. 2015-11-26 00:29:03     n-tech  The Chinese experient is going to be very interesting.
  117. 2015-11-26 00:29:10     n-tech  I have people who want to make it work
  118. 2015-11-26 00:29:15     n-tech  it's not just me trying to exploit a foreign marker
  119. 2015-11-26 00:29:17     n-tech  market*
  120. 2015-11-26 00:29:21     n-tech  I have people who know how to make it happen
  121. 2015-11-26 00:29:29     n-tech  It'll preserve internal harmony too
  122. 2015-11-26 00:29:47     n-tech  so those big hosting issues won't matter
  123. 2015-11-26 00:30:50     copypaste       oh sure, china's all different
  124. 2015-11-26 00:30:58     copypaste       you DDoS china from within china
  125. 2015-11-26 00:31:04     copypaste       you go to a gulag and are never seen again
  126. 2015-11-26 00:31:09     copypaste       now, packeting the rest of the world
  127. 2015-11-26 00:31:12     copypaste       "lol who cares"
  128. 2015-11-26 00:31:15     n-tech  yea
  129. 2015-11-26 00:31:19     n-tech  I hope this works out
  130. 2015-11-26 00:31:24     n-tech  I hope in 10 years I'm a Chinese Jim
  131. 2015-11-26 00:31:32     n-tech  sitting in a big apartment at the top of a tower in Singapore
  132. 2015-11-26 00:31:35     n-tech  drinking Sake n eating stir fry n shit
  133. 2015-11-26 00:31:50     n-tech  safe from world war 3
  134. 2015-11-26 00:31:53     n-tech  with a second nationality
  135. 2015-11-26 00:39:42     copypaste       jim didn't make his money with 2ch
  136. 2015-11-26 00:39:47     copypaste       he made it from the sites before 2ch
  137. 2015-11-26 00:39:56     copypaste       2ch is just his last remaining profitable web property
  138. 2015-11-26 00:40:14     copypaste       before 2ch he ran huge porn sites targeted towards the japanese
  139. 2015-11-26 00:40:17     copypaste       uncensored
  140. 2015-11-26 00:40:22     copypaste       he was the first to exploit that law loophole
  141. 2015-11-26 00:40:41     copypaste       that's how his services were known to japanese as an American host who would be happy to break jap law
  142. 2015-11-26 00:41:07     copypaste       of course, as he told me, the porn game changed dramatically over the years and he lost all his stake in it
  143. 2015-11-26 00:41:26     copypaste       he failed to thrive with changing codecs and piracy
  144. 2015-11-26 00:41:34     copypaste       but that's where most of his money came from.
  145. 2015-11-26 06:43:30     n-tech  yo let me know when you're up
  146. 2015-11-26 11:20:09     copypaste       hi
  147. 2015-11-26 11:31:46     n-tech  i need to buy more cash from you in btc ; ;
  148. 2015-11-26 11:32:00     n-tech  I had something set up for tomorrow
  149. 2015-11-26 11:32:06     n-tech  but I have a package coming in today
  150. 2015-11-26 11:32:08     n-tech  my A/C Adapter
  151. 2015-11-26 11:32:14     n-tech  and it has a 2000 peso duty fee
  152. 2015-11-26 11:32:17     n-tech  that i have to have cod
  153. 2015-11-26 11:32:25     n-tech  none of this other shit i have can fall through in the next few hours
  154. 2015-11-26 11:32:32     n-tech  it's driving me up the wall how I can have
  155. 2015-11-26 11:32:34     n-tech  thousands of dollars
  156. 2015-11-26 11:32:39     n-tech  and $10 at the same time
  157. 2015-11-26 11:41:45     copypaste       ok you need to come over now
  158. 2015-11-26 11:41:48     copypaste       i'm leaving in a half hour
  159. 2015-11-26 11:42:56     n-tech  okay
  160. 2015-11-26 11:43:23     n-tech  send me your address, i'll come over. give me what you can (need at least 2k) and i'll pay you for it when i get back
  161. 2015-11-26 11:43:24     n-tech  alright?
  162. 2015-11-26 11:43:33     copypaste       ok
  163. 2015-11-26 11:43:36     copypaste       come over first
  164. 2015-11-26 11:43:36     n-tech  brt
  165. 2015-11-26 11:43:41     copypaste       i'll give you what i have
  166. 2015-11-26 11:46:04     copypaste       all i have to spare is 3k
  167. 2015-11-26 11:46:13     copypaste       i'm going to the hospital in a half hour so i have to use cash there
  168. 2015-11-26 11:47:01     copypaste       address is 1EeYdSJBfj61TELndxBM3rdLnYHuoCXtDm
  169. 2015-11-26 11:53:57     n-tech  Send Complete
  170. 2015-11-26 11:53:57     n-tech  You've successfully sent 0.191948 BTC (worth $63.77 USD) to 1EeYdSJBfj61TELndxBM3rdLnYHuoCXtDm.
  171. 2015-11-26 11:54:00     n-tech  thanks mate
  172. 2015-11-26 11:54:16     copypaste       np
  173. 2015-11-26 11:54:21     copypaste       i'm becoming an ATM machine
  174. 2015-11-26 11:54:25     copypaste       beep boop
  175. 2015-11-26 11:54:31     n-tech  rolling teller machine
  176. 2015-11-26 11:54:35     n-tech  i'll figure something out long term soon
  177. 2015-11-26 11:54:35     copypaste       lol
  178. 2015-11-26 11:54:39     n-tech  i just had to pull it out asap ; ;
  179. 2015-11-26 16:02:08     copypaste       my personal paypal account was closed earlier today lol
  180. 2015-11-26 16:02:17     copypaste       i haven't recieved any money 8ch related in over a year
  181. 2015-11-26 16:03:00     copypaste       actually it was closed on the 21st
  182. 2015-11-26 16:03:03     copypaste       i just noticed right now
  183. 2015-11-26 16:03:09     copypaste       when trying to pay for something
  184. 2015-11-26 16:03:11     copypaste       paypal blows
  185. 2015-11-26 16:03:22     copypaste       perhaps it's because i accepted patreon money with it a long time ago
  186. 2015-11-26 16:03:29     copypaste       and their review process takes months lmao
  187. 2015-11-26 16:03:31     n-tech  wow that is bizarre
  188. 2015-11-26 16:05:25     copypaste       it's fine
  189. 2015-11-26 16:05:29     copypaste       paypal is next to useless here
  190. 2015-11-26 16:05:50     n-tech  http://www.dhl.com/en/express/tracking.html?AWB=6270050430&brand=DHL
  191. 2015-11-26 16:06:37     n-tech  i'm genuinely impressed how they fuck up every attempt at infastructure here
  192. 2015-11-26 16:06:44     n-tech  can't even get a fucking box from point a to point b
  193. 2015-11-26 16:06:49     n-tech  notice how flawlessly it got to Hong Kong
  194. 2015-11-26 16:06:55     n-tech  but the moment it touched down in the Philippines
  195. 2015-11-26 16:06:59     n-tech  it's going haywire
  196. 2015-11-26 16:07:46     copypaste       wow impressive
  197. 2015-11-26 16:07:49     copypaste       cleared customs 3 times
  198. 2015-11-26 16:07:50     copypaste       lol
  199. 2015-11-26 16:08:01     n-tech  by the 3rd time they must be opening the box like
  200. 2015-11-26 16:08:01     n-tech  yep
  201. 2015-11-26 16:08:03     copypaste       wait no, 4 times
  202. 2015-11-26 16:08:05     n-tech  still a fucking a/c adapter
  203. 2015-11-26 16:08:25     copypaste       i only ship things here via fedex
  204. 2015-11-26 16:08:29     copypaste       everything else i have found to be unreliable
  205. 2015-11-26 16:08:38     copypaste       never tried DHL tho
  206. 2015-11-26 16:08:44     n-tech  I had no option. This is the only supplier and the only service I found shipping lithium products to the Philippines.
  207. 2015-11-26 16:08:52     copypaste       ye
  208. 2015-11-26 16:08:56     copypaste       good luck
  209. 2015-11-26 16:09:18     copypaste       Shipment arrived at incorrect facility. Sent to correct destination
  210. 2015-11-26 16:09:19     copypaste       wew lad
  211. 2015-11-26 16:09:23     copypaste       this is pretty funny to be honest
  212. 2015-11-26 16:09:55     n-tech  This is why public education is a social service valuable to everyone
  213. 2015-11-26 16:10:02     n-tech  nobody benefits from cheap labor that can't read an address
  214. 2015-11-26 16:12:00     copypaste        our online results give you real-time, detailed progress as your shipment speeds through the DHL network.
  215. 2015-11-26 16:12:03     copypaste       SPEEDS
  216. 2015-11-26 16:12:18     n-tech  literally speeding through the streets of manila
  217. 2015-11-26 16:12:26     n-tech  like a metal ball in a pinball machine
  218. 2015-11-26 16:30:56     n-tech  i am truly stumped
  219. 2015-11-26 16:31:12     n-tech  laravel eloquent model binding does not appear to work on the beta server
  220. 2015-11-26 16:31:20     n-tech  and it works everywhere else
  221. 2015-11-26 16:31:27     n-tech  i haven't the slightest clue what can be causing it
  222. 2015-11-26 17:24:39     n-tech  https://beta.8ch.net/b/thread/4771601
  223. 2015-11-26 17:51:08     copypaste       i don't knwo what that means
  224. 2015-11-26 17:51:14     copypaste       but it coudl be a difference between php5 and php7
  225. 2015-11-26 17:52:01     n-tech  I narrowed it down
  226. 2015-11-26 17:52:06     n-tech  http://i.imgur.com/84q0JxJ.png
  227. 2015-11-26 17:52:10     n-tech  this is my model when I try to save it
  228. 2015-11-26 17:52:15     copypaste       do you like my post on your thread
  229. 2015-11-26 17:52:18     n-tech  the dirty and original values mirror each other
  230. 2015-11-26 17:52:19     n-tech  ye
  231. 2015-11-26 17:52:23     copypaste       $17
  232. 2015-11-26 17:52:24     copypaste       lol
  233. 2015-11-26 17:52:35     n-tech  oh wait i didnt see that
  234. 2015-11-26 17:52:36     n-tech  yeeee
  235. 2015-11-26 17:52:36     copypaste       i know it's a bit more than that
  236. 2015-11-26 17:52:37     n-tech  :---DD
  237. 2015-11-26 17:52:41     n-tech  $45
  238. 2015-11-26 17:52:47     n-tech  wait
  239. 2015-11-26 17:52:48     n-tech  $60
  240. 2015-11-26 17:52:49     n-tech  yeee
  241. 2015-11-26 17:52:50     n-tech  holla
  242. 2015-11-26 17:53:55     copypaste       yo you should turn ephemerality off on /next/
  243. 2015-11-26 17:54:08     copypaste       i'm surprised intl/ints/freech/third party trolls hasn't flooded it yet
  244. 2015-11-26 17:54:17     copypaste       [insert boogeyman here]
  245. 2015-11-26 17:54:31     n-tech  tfw trust system works
  246. 2015-11-26 17:54:50     n-tech  captcha is off too
  247. 2015-11-26 17:55:06     copypaste       completely off?
  248. 2015-11-26 17:55:10     n-tech  yes
  249. 2015-11-26 17:55:14     copypaste       turn epehmerality off so you don't lose all your threads
  250. 2015-11-26 17:55:15     n-tech  1 second flood timer
  251. 2015-11-26 17:55:15     copypaste       please
  252. 2015-11-26 17:55:17     n-tech  that's all we have
  253. 2015-11-26 17:55:17     n-tech  lol
  254. 2015-11-26 17:55:25     copypaste       if you turn that off it's fine
  255. 2015-11-26 17:55:30     copypaste       then you can just wipe out any floods
  256. 2015-11-26 17:55:32     n-tech  done
  257. 2015-11-26 17:55:32     copypaste       and keep your threads
  258. 2015-11-26 17:55:39     copypaste       i thought that was the whole poitn of being able to turn it off
  259. 2015-11-26 17:55:41     copypaste       aw yea G
  260. 2015-11-26 17:55:53     n-tech  le forum not imageboard crying drybones faec
  261. 2015-11-26 17:56:01     copypaste       btw i'm going to force captchas 24 hours on 8chan
  262. 2015-11-26 17:56:04     copypaste       you can do whatever on the beta
  263. 2015-11-26 17:56:10     copypaste       but the long dick of the law will come back
  264. 2015-11-26 17:56:25     n-tech  I had it 1 hour / 10 posts
  265. 2015-11-26 17:56:29     n-tech  and tested the form hard enough
  266. 2015-11-26 17:56:35     n-tech  that it didn't bother me because of how amazingly responsive it was
  267. 2015-11-26 17:56:37     n-tech  then i turned it off
  268. 2015-11-26 17:56:38     copypaste       a flood would be good actually
  269. 2015-11-26 17:56:49     copypaste       see how much PPH we can get
  270. 2015-11-26 17:56:58     copypaste       8chan's record is 13K
  271. 2015-11-26 17:57:03     n-tech  lol
  272. 2015-11-26 17:57:05     copypaste       the whole site was unusable during that flood
  273. 2015-11-26 17:57:10     copypaste       even mod.php stopped working
  274. 2015-11-26 17:57:15     copypaste       only flood posts were getting through
  275. 2015-11-26 17:57:16     copypaste       lol
  276. 2015-11-26 19:58:02     copypaste       just beat SA finally
  277. 2015-11-26 19:58:10     copypaste       at least, the main storyline
  278. 2015-11-26 19:58:15     copypaste       not robbing the casino and shit
  279. 2015-11-26 19:58:41     copypaste       i thought my game was all fucked up because i was fireproof in the last mission and i know i didn't cheat
  280. 2015-11-26 19:58:55     copypaste       turns out that it was because i beat the firefighter missions lol
  281. 2015-11-26 19:59:03     copypaste       (i did them like in the beginning of the game just for money)
  282. 2015-11-27 12:04:56     n-tech  yeah they usually encourage you to beat the fire fighter missions before you do the finale
  283. 2015-11-27 12:05:07     n-tech  because being able to skip the extinguishing parts maeks it a breeze
  284. 2015-11-27 12:58:48     --      irc: disconnected from server
  285. 2015-11-27 15:32:48     copypaste       hey
  286. 2015-11-27 15:32:51     copypaste       i got good news for you
  287. 2015-11-27 15:32:58     n-tech  wassat
  288. 2015-11-27 15:33:02     copypaste       jim wants to meet you tomorrow
  289. 2015-11-27 15:33:04     copypaste       he's offering you a job
  290. 2015-11-27 15:33:08     copypaste       but don't tell him i told you that
  291. 2015-11-27 15:33:12     n-tech  To do what?
  292. 2015-11-27 15:33:16     copypaste       i don't know
  293. 2015-11-27 15:33:18     n-tech  oh it's secret
  294. 2015-11-27 15:33:19     n-tech  okay
  295. 2015-11-27 15:33:21     copypaste       yeah
  296. 2015-11-27 15:33:28     n-tech  probably having to do with the financial future of 8chan
  297. 2015-11-27 15:33:36     copypaste       he says he's impressed with the beta site
  298. 2015-11-27 15:33:48     n-tech  i am a nuclear engine of autism
  299. 2015-11-27 15:34:23     n-tech  hum
  300. 2015-11-27 15:34:27     n-tech  well shit today's a good day then
  301. 2015-11-27 15:34:35     n-tech  I'm so happy I found my issue with referenecs
  302. 2015-11-27 15:34:35     n-tech  ; ;
  303. 2015-11-27 15:34:39     copypaste       :D
  304. 2015-11-27 15:38:18     n-tech  thanks for the heads up too
  305. 2015-11-27 15:38:22     n-tech  I have to do my spring cleaning and bathe
  306. 2015-11-27 15:38:24     n-tech  =3=
  307. 2015-11-27 15:38:27     n-tech  so stressful
  308. 2015-11-27 15:38:49     copypaste       we're going to meet at like a restaurant
  309. 2015-11-27 15:38:52     copypaste       not are your apartment man
  310. 2015-11-27 15:38:55     copypaste       at*
  311. 2015-11-27 15:38:58     n-tech  o ok
  312. 2015-11-27 15:39:04     n-tech  mm food
  313. 2015-11-27 15:40:56     copypaste       it'll be at Giovanni's
  314. 2015-11-27 15:41:00     copypaste       i know where it is
  315. 2015-11-27 15:41:06     copypaste       it's right downstairs. we went there when you first came here
  316. 2015-11-27 15:41:06     n-tech  sounds like pizza
  317. 2015-11-27 15:41:09     copypaste       yep
  318. 2015-11-27 15:41:14     n-tech  didn't we eat there
  319. 2015-11-27 15:41:19     n-tech  like straight from the airport
  320. 2015-11-27 15:41:22     copypaste       yeah we did
  321. 2015-11-27 15:41:24     copypaste       that's what i said, lol
  322. 2015-11-27 15:41:27     n-tech  o
  323. 2015-11-27 15:41:29     n-tech  O
  324. 2015-11-27 15:41:43     copypaste       ok. 10AM tomorrow
  325. 2015-11-27 15:41:46     copypaste       i'll come get you
  326. 2015-11-27 15:42:17     copypaste       it will be you, jim, mochi and i
  327. 2015-11-27 15:43:44     copypaste       also, you should know that jim spent the last month at like a temple or something learning yoga
  328. 2015-11-27 15:43:56     copypaste       he hurt his hip really bad and went to the hospital at the end of it
  329. 2015-11-27 15:43:59     copypaste       but he did graduate
  330. 2015-11-27 15:46:57     n-tech  fuck man
  331. 2015-11-27 15:46:58     n-tech  that sucks
  332. 2015-11-27 15:47:24     n-tech  man this motherfucker with my box
  333. 2015-11-27 15:47:29     n-tech  has an hour and 15 minutes to get to me with my box
  334. 2015-11-27 15:47:40     n-tech  or imma be really steamed at these guys
  335. 2015-11-27 15:48:32     n-tech  Does this mean Jim has seen beta/jim/?
  336. 2015-11-27 15:48:53     copypaste       you know i don't know
  337. 2015-11-27 15:48:56     copypaste       you'll have to ask him
  338. 2015-11-27 17:34:20             [copypaste away: Not here right now. since 2015-11-27 17:34:20+0800]
  339. 2015-11-27 19:32:00             [copypaste back: gone 01:57:39]
  340. 2015-11-27 23:30:51     copypaste       aw man i just crashed my GTA:SA by editing my save file to put an RC bandit in the garage
  341. 2015-11-27 23:31:06     n-tech  god fuck those missions
  342. 2015-11-27 23:31:11     n-tech  the zero rc missions can suck a dick
  343. 2015-11-27 23:31:15     n-tech  literally the only missions i never completed
  344. 2015-11-27 23:31:19     n-tech  could never blow up the fucking vans
  345. 2015-11-27 23:31:36     copypaste       wow really?
  346. 2015-11-27 23:31:41     n-tech  yea
  347. 2015-11-27 23:31:44     n-tech  infuriating
  348. 2015-11-27 23:31:45     copypaste       i had a lot of trouble with the last one from him
  349. 2015-11-27 23:31:49     copypaste       if you never blew up the vans
  350. 2015-11-27 23:31:51     copypaste       you nevre got to it
  351. 2015-11-27 23:31:54     n-tech  i never got that far, but I knew of them
  352. 2015-11-27 23:31:58     copypaste       you literally have 5 seconds
  353. 2015-11-27 23:32:02     n-tech  because I read a ton of guides
  354. 2015-11-27 23:32:09     copypaste       you have to help his bandit get through an obsticale coruse
  355. 2015-11-27 23:33:49     n-tech  I have a nigger song for you
  356. 2015-11-27 23:33:52     n-tech  that you might actually like
  357. 2015-11-27 23:33:53     n-tech  wanna hear it?
  358. 2015-11-27 23:34:30     n-tech  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eIf3GijdMA
  359. 2015-11-27 23:35:43     n-tech  this is probably
  360. 2015-11-27 23:35:46     n-tech  the most nigger song
  361. 2015-11-27 23:35:49     n-tech  i've ever fucking heard
  362. 2015-11-27 23:35:52     n-tech  like it's just so dense
  363. 2015-11-27 23:35:56     copypaste       it's not bad
  364. 2015-11-27 23:35:56     n-tech  listen to the lyrics, if you can
  365. 2015-11-27 23:35:57     n-tech  all of it
  366. 2015-11-27 23:36:01     n-tech  no no no just listen to the lyrics
  367. 2015-11-27 23:36:04     copypaste       2 and 3 dollas between us
  368. 2015-11-27 23:36:05     n-tech  the song is really good actually
  369. 2015-11-27 23:36:06     copypaste       :DD
  370. 2015-11-27 23:36:07     n-tech  but the LYRICS
  371. 2015-11-27 23:36:08     n-tech  are NIGGER
  372. 2015-11-27 23:36:11     n-tech  it gets so much worse
  373. 2015-11-27 23:36:24     copypaste       dominos boy lol
  374. 2015-11-27 23:36:30     n-tech  every verse
  375. 2015-11-27 23:36:32     n-tech  is more nigger than the last
  376. 2015-11-27 23:36:38     copypaste       ain't you hungry my nigga
  377. 2015-11-27 23:36:39     n-tech  you're gonna love like 3 minutes in
  378. 2015-11-27 23:36:41     copypaste       i'm dying
  379. 2015-11-27 23:36:43     n-tech  helll yeaaaa
  380. 2015-11-27 23:38:02     copypaste       that CC fraud part
  381. 2015-11-27 23:38:05     copypaste       i'm not even mad
  382. 2015-11-27 23:38:10     n-tech  gets worse man
  383. 2015-11-27 23:38:12     copypaste       i thought that was white trash type of crime
  384. 2015-11-27 23:38:18     copypaste       i KNOW people who do that
  385. 2015-11-27 23:38:21     n-tech  lolol
  386. 2015-11-27 23:38:35     copypaste       niggas getting in on our trailer park business
  387. 2015-11-27 23:38:44     copypaste       i'm going to tell my homeys to pop em
  388. 2015-11-27 23:38:45     copypaste       :^)
  389. 2015-11-27 23:38:56     n-tech  hood versus the park man
  390. 2015-11-27 23:39:03     n-tech  or maybe even
  391. 2015-11-27 23:39:05     n-tech  hood versus the hoods
  392. 2015-11-27 23:39:13     copypaste       fuck the welfare, we say reparations
  393. 2015-11-27 23:39:14     copypaste       topkek
  394. 2015-11-27 23:39:18     n-tech  yeeeee
  395. 2015-11-27 23:39:23     n-tech  that's the good one
  396. 2015-11-27 23:40:15     copypaste       flips all steal from their jobs
  397. 2015-11-27 23:40:20     copypaste       that's the purpose of the security guards
  398. 2015-11-27 23:40:22     copypaste       as i told you
  399. 2015-11-27 23:40:24     copypaste       they don't care about us
  400. 2015-11-27 23:40:35     copypaste       i mean, they help me (even carry wheelchairs upstairs)
  401. 2015-11-27 23:40:43     copypaste       but they aren't there to watch us
  402. 2015-11-27 23:40:44     copypaste       lol
  403. 2015-11-27 23:40:55     n-tech  what do you mean?
  404. 2015-11-27 23:41:15     copypaste       i mean that filipino employees are by and large thieves.
  405. 2015-11-27 23:41:16     n-tech  it feels like i missed a line or two
  406. 2015-11-27 23:41:19     n-tech  ahh
  407. 2015-11-27 23:41:20     n-tech  lol
  408. 2015-11-27 23:41:29     n-tech  idk the security guards are chill here
  409. 2015-11-27 23:41:36     n-tech  i've not had a bad encounter with an employee
  410. 2015-11-27 23:41:40     copypaste       yeah, as i said they're there to keep the employees in check
  411. 2015-11-27 23:41:43     copypaste       and to keep the other guards in check
  412. 2015-11-27 23:41:51     copypaste       because it's not hard for an employee and one guard to collude
  413. 2015-11-27 23:41:53     n-tech  are all the men in white narcs then?
  414. 2015-11-27 23:41:57     copypaste       yes
  415. 2015-11-27 23:42:09     copypaste       they get more money when they turn fools in
  416. 2015-11-27 23:42:18     n-tech  $$narclife$$
  417. 2015-11-27 23:42:29     copypaste       i once rode uber with a former NBI agent
  418. 2015-11-27 23:42:39     copypaste       i was kind of spooked when a black SUV rolled up and i saw his shirt
  419. 2015-11-27 23:42:47     copypaste       lol
  420. 2015-11-27 23:42:53     copypaste       he now owns a security guard business
  421. 2015-11-27 23:42:58     copypaste       and was telling me about the trade
  422. 2015-11-27 23:42:58     n-tech  what? really? do they share rides with uber?
  423. 2015-11-27 23:43:01     n-tech  or was he the driver?
  424. 2015-11-27 23:43:04     copypaste       yeah he was the driver
  425. 2015-11-27 23:43:11     n-tech  we always have fucking weird drivers
  426. 2015-11-27 23:43:24     copypaste       i was like first off "NBI don't pay you enough?"
  427. 2015-11-27 23:43:27     copypaste       i'm pretty rude i guess
  428. 2015-11-27 23:43:29     copypaste       but it got him talking
  429. 2015-11-27 23:43:30     copypaste       lol
  430. 2015-11-27 23:43:32     n-tech  lol
  431. 2015-11-27 23:43:36     n-tech  did it?
  432. 2015-11-27 23:43:43     copypaste       sure, he told me all about his security guard business
  433. 2015-11-27 23:43:48     copypaste       and his ranch with 11 dogs
  434. 2015-11-27 23:43:53     n-tech  bow wow
  435. 2015-11-27 23:44:00     n-tech  nononon
  436. 2015-11-27 23:44:01     copypaste       it's in antipolo
  437. 2015-11-27 23:44:01     n-tech  i meant
  438. 2015-11-27 23:44:04     copypaste       he even invited me to gothere
  439. 2015-11-27 23:44:07     n-tech  the nbi didn't pay enough
  440. 2015-11-27 23:44:11     copypaste       oh
  441. 2015-11-27 23:44:18     copypaste       no he just got too old to keep being in it
  442. 2015-11-27 23:44:21     copypaste       there's an age limit
  443. 2015-11-27 23:44:28     copypaste       for the foot soldiers at least
  444. 2015-11-27 23:44:49     copypaste       (if he was telling the truth - he also could have been quietly dismissed for being corrupt to the core)
  445. 2015-11-27 23:44:56     copypaste       (lol welcome to the fils)
  446. 2015-11-27 23:49:28     n-tech  http://i.imgur.com/E1Skotu.png
  447. 2015-11-27 23:52:02     n-tech  I wonder what the daily life of Kim Jung Un is
  448. 2015-11-27 23:52:11     n-tech  Does he ever have a day to just sit around in his underwear playing western video games
  449. 2015-11-27 23:52:27     n-tech  If I was the God King I'd want those days
  450. 2015-11-28 00:15:56     n-tech  https://beta.8ch.net/next/thread/2909#3299
  451. 2015-11-28 00:49:07     copypaste       yes good including CAPTCHA?
  452. 2015-11-28 00:49:14     copypaste       and i can lock only certain board's settings?
  453. 2015-11-28 00:49:19     n-tech  there are no captcha settings on the board
  454. 2015-11-28 00:49:21     n-tech  yes
  455. 2015-11-28 00:49:26     n-tech  all locks are board-specific
  456. 2015-11-28 00:49:28     copypaste       OK
  457. 2015-11-28 00:49:38     copypaste       for example, mark once threatened to make his board "SFW"
  458. 2015-11-28 00:49:38     n-tech  the only thing you cant lock
  459. 2015-11-28 00:49:41     n-tech  and i may have to change this
  460. 2015-11-28 00:49:42     n-tech  yess
  461. 2015-11-28 00:49:43     n-tech  that's one
  462. 2015-11-28 00:49:49     copypaste       also, i'd like per-board CAPTCHAs as well...
  463. 2015-11-28 00:49:52     n-tech  title, description, sfw, overboard, indexing
  464. 2015-11-28 00:50:00     n-tech  those are board level and not settings
  465. 2015-11-28 00:50:00     copypaste       some boards are just spam magnets
  466. 2015-11-28 00:50:01     copypaste       /furry/
  467. 2015-11-28 00:50:04     copypaste       OK
  468. 2015-11-28 00:50:08     copypaste       but it can be done?
  469. 2015-11-28 00:50:19     copypaste       i don't need to be able to lock it
  470. 2015-11-28 00:50:21     n-tech  anything can be done, but that sort of locking wouldn't fit into the convention
  471. 2015-11-28 00:50:26     n-tech  oh you can change it sure
  472. 2015-11-28 00:50:26     copypaste       but they should be able to make their CAPTCHAs more strict
  473. 2015-11-28 00:50:30     copypaste       ok
  474. 2015-11-28 00:50:38     n-tech  captcha settings would be easy
  475. 2015-11-28 00:50:40     n-tech  it's "planned"
  476. 2015-11-28 00:50:44     n-tech  i want people to pick captcha profiles too
  477. 2015-11-28 00:50:49     n-tech  between light/dark/chinese/arabic
  478. 2015-11-28 00:50:59     n-tech  only the first two are colors
  479. 2015-11-28 00:50:59     copypaste       cool
  480. 2015-11-28 00:51:02     copypaste       also do a kana one
  481. 2015-11-28 00:51:02     n-tech  im not talking like brown colored captchas
  482. 2015-11-28 00:51:04     n-tech  that'd be racist
  483. 2015-11-28 00:51:05     copypaste       for ultra weebs
  484. 2015-11-28 00:51:06     n-tech  oh that's done
  485. 2015-11-28 00:51:08     n-tech  :---DDD
  486. 2015-11-28 00:51:11     copypaste       neat
  487. 2015-11-28 00:51:12     n-tech  i forgot jap
  488. 2015-11-28 00:52:17     n-tech  I'm doing uh, content originality settings
  489. 2015-11-28 00:52:22     n-tech  for image and post specifications
  490. 2015-11-28 00:52:25     n-tech  that's the second blocker
  491. 2015-11-28 00:52:31     n-tech  it's going to be:
  492. 2015-11-28 00:52:38     n-tech  Image [thread/board] enforcement
  493. 2015-11-28 00:52:46     n-tech  Post content [thread/board/r9k] enforcement
  494. 2015-11-28 00:52:52     n-tech  where r9k is board but with autobans
  495. 2015-11-28 00:54:27     copypaste       you keep dodging the v1 API :-DDDD
  496. 2015-11-28 00:54:36     n-tech  because it's shib :---DDDDD
  497. 2015-11-28 00:54:39     copypaste       yeah
  498. 2015-11-28 00:54:55     copypaste       how hard is it to insert a post in all V1 API thread responses
  499. 2015-11-28 00:54:56     copypaste       just
  500. 2015-11-28 00:55:03     n-tech  not very
  501. 2015-11-28 00:55:10     n-tech  you know what's going to be hard?
  502. 2015-11-28 00:55:11     n-tech  maintaining it
  503. 2015-11-28 00:55:17     n-tech  i will probably have to make fucking
  504. 2015-11-28 00:55:19     n-tech  unit tests for that shit
  505. 2015-11-28 00:55:24     n-tech  ffssfskfjgfd
  506. 2015-11-28 00:56:20     copypaste       "This response uses the V1 API ("4chan compatible API / vichan API"). This API will be deprecated on January 1, 2017 in favor of the new API, documented here(link). Please inform the developer of this application that he needs to update before then. Also, any new feature that was not available in the v1 API will not be available to you."
  507. 2015-11-28 00:56:25     copypaste       second post in every v1 JSON
  508. 2015-11-28 00:56:30     copypaste       should spur action
  509. 2015-11-28 11:19:14     copypaste       shit dude that was crazy
  510. 2015-11-28 11:19:22     n-tech  lol
  511. 2015-11-28 11:19:32     copypaste       i'm letting him have it in slack now
  512. 2015-11-28 11:19:43     copypaste       he wrote "let's close 8chan" into my query window
  513. 2015-11-28 11:19:46     copypaste       not into the servers chat
  514. 2015-11-28 11:19:48     copypaste       he's playing games
  515. 2015-11-28 11:19:54     n-tech  duh
  516. 2015-11-28 11:20:10     n-tech  he understands that 8chan is a binding of people surrounding a set of boxes and software
  517. 2015-11-28 11:20:17     n-tech  and if the underlyings change they will migrate as they have before
  518. 2015-11-28 11:20:34     copypaste       lol
  519. 2015-11-28 11:20:40     copypaste       things will fall apart without our support
  520. 2015-11-28 11:20:44     copypaste       he thinks RQI can fix vichan?
  521. 2015-11-28 11:20:45     copypaste       pffhahaha
  522. 2015-11-28 11:20:54     n-tech  they'd end up using next on public agpl3
  523. 2015-11-28 11:21:04     copypaste       perhaps ron will chip in and write a new broken thing in haskell
  524. 2015-11-28 11:21:10     copypaste       eight months later when the site is dead as a doornail
  525. 2015-11-28 11:21:19     n-tech  my offer was good idk what the problem was
  526. 2015-11-28 11:21:24     copypaste       neither do i
  527. 2015-11-28 11:21:29     n-tech  i lit up when i found the words "sublicense" in my brain
  528. 2015-11-28 11:21:34     n-tech  i was like aww yeee that's the right word
  529. 2015-11-28 11:22:01     n-tech  maybe he got mad because a dumpy looking hippie in a hoodie in 40 degree heat stood him up on a pretty attractive offer
  530. 2015-11-28 11:22:13     copypaste       lol
  531. 2015-11-28 11:22:23     copypaste       i told him that you are not all about money
  532. 2015-11-28 11:22:26     copypaste       and you are about the community
  533. 2015-11-28 11:22:35     copypaste       i chose AGPL as an insurance policy by the way
  534. 2015-11-28 11:22:39     copypaste       it's like a last will and testament
  535. 2015-11-28 11:22:50     copypaste       if he fucks up 8ch it can move because the software is free
  536. 2015-11-28 11:22:54     copypaste       just like RMS would have wanted
  537. 2015-11-28 11:23:10     n-tech  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYURxfaTdpY
  538. 2015-11-28 11:23:38     copypaste       we could have gone with BSD but i had it in the back of my mind
  539. 2015-11-28 11:23:41     copypaste       that he's pull some BS like this
  540. 2015-11-28 11:23:45     copypaste       now you see the value of AGPL
  541. 2015-11-28 11:23:58     n-tech  for things like this ye
  542. 2015-11-28 11:24:04     n-tech  i think that agpl3 on brennan captcha was excessive
  543. 2015-11-28 11:24:08     copypaste       yeah
  544. 2015-11-28 11:24:11     copypaste       i should bsd that
  545. 2015-11-28 11:24:11     n-tech  we did have a contributor for that yesterday though
  546. 2015-11-28 11:24:22     n-tech  oman contributed arabic captchas :^)
  547. 2015-11-28 11:24:25     copypaste       lol
  548. 2015-11-28 11:24:29     n-tech  he even added rtl solutions
  549. 2015-11-28 11:24:44     n-tech  i had a feeling jim is just going to be like
  550. 2015-11-28 11:24:51     n-tech  one of those people who I fucking infuriate for reasons beyond me
  551. 2015-11-28 11:24:55     copypaste       https://imgur.com/xgVa9pu
  552. 2015-11-28 11:25:00     copypaste       this is what i wrote to him
  553. 2015-11-28 11:26:15     n-tech  maybe he's just seeing if we talk about this
  554. 2015-11-28 11:26:23     n-tech  i'm trying to give jim credit somehow in my mind
  555. 2015-11-28 11:26:24     n-tech  lol
  556. 2015-11-28 11:26:25     copypaste       lol
  557. 2015-11-28 11:31:52     copypaste       part 2 https://i.imgur.com/rQJDWs7.png
  558. 2015-11-28 11:38:32     n-tech  i didn't troll him i asked a question
  559. 2015-11-28 11:38:39     n-tech  if i can't ask questions we can't do business
  560. 2015-11-28 11:38:50     n-tech  i'm not going to let myself be bullied by some old prick who doesn't get modern technology and consumerism
  561. 2015-11-28 11:38:59     n-tech  respecting the user is the keystone to a successful business
  562. 2015-11-28 11:39:21     copypaste       i agree with you
  563. 2015-11-28 11:40:30     copypaste        jim 11:31 AM My concern is company privacy. I don't care about license if it is developed inside the company. I am concerned that josh can't or won't keep secrets. I understand why he doesn't hold jobs well. I can overlook that personality defect, but I can't allow company privacy to be at risk.
  564. 2015-11-28 11:40:30     copypaste       ​
  565. 2015-11-28 11:40:30     copypaste       11:34
  566. 2015-11-28 11:40:30     copypaste       So figure it out fredrick. You are the manager. If you can control him and use him effectively and keep contact with me at a minimum. We can hire him.
  567. 2015-11-28 11:40:30     copypaste       copypaste
  568. 2015-11-28 11:40:30     copypaste       11:36 AM What is "company privacy"? The board software is open and anonymous. This model actually guarantees that secret components won't ever be accidentally leaked. Right now on 8chan all components have to be hardlinked into the code ("include"). The new software allows all components being in their own world, and you still being able to "login with your 8ch account." (Just like "Login with
  569. 2015-11-28 11:40:30     copypaste       your Facebook account"). That is how passes and softserve will eventually be implemented, as closed source software that links via OAuth.
  570. 2015-11-28 11:40:30     copypaste       ​
  571. 2015-11-28 11:40:30     copypaste       11:36
  572. 2015-11-28 11:40:31     copypaste       This model is actually technically genius because it allows us to mix the strength of the AGPL with closed source componoents. I came up with it.
  573. 2015-11-28 11:40:31     copypaste       ​
  574. 2015-11-28 11:40:31     copypaste       11:38
  575. 2015-11-28 11:40:31     copypaste       You shouldn't expect Josh to keep secrets for you, because up until now he didn't work for you. He worked for the 8chan community and they all donated to him.
  576. 2015-11-28 11:40:31     copypaste       ​
  577. 2015-11-28 11:40:31     copypaste       11:38
  578. 2015-11-28 11:40:31     copypaste       I chose to endorse his software after a short contest because it was the soundest option presented, but this was entirely a community effort.
  579. 2015-11-28 11:40:31     copypaste       ​
  580. 2015-11-28 11:40:31     copypaste       11:40
  581. 2015-11-28 11:40:31     copypaste       Other entries were a node.js imageboard, an unfinished Python concept and some Haskell vaporware.
  582. 2015-11-28 11:41:19     n-tech  ll
  583. 2015-11-28 11:41:25     n-tech  i can't spill company secrets if i don't know any
  584. 2015-11-28 11:41:30     n-tech  all the things i do know how remained with me
  585. 2015-11-28 11:41:36     n-tech  i asked him a question that anyone using 8chan could have asked
  586. 2015-11-28 11:41:46     n-tech  i just asked it really well because I knew exactly what answer I needed to hear
  587. 2015-11-28 11:41:57     n-tech  I held my job for 4 years and left on my own terms
  588. 2015-11-28 11:42:01     n-tech  because they pissed me off
  589. 2015-11-28 11:42:09     n-tech  people who piss me off don't get to have influence over me
  590. 2015-11-28 11:43:08     n-tech  he's not telling you what he's really worried about
  591. 2015-11-28 11:43:13     copypaste       yeah
  592. 2015-11-28 11:43:16     n-tech  he thinks i'm some uber-virtuous whistleblower
  593. 2015-11-28 11:43:23     n-tech  who will fuck him over the first chance I get
  594. 2015-11-28 11:43:29     copypaste       what whistle is there to blow?
  595. 2015-11-28 11:43:35     n-tech  he breaks many laws
  596. 2015-11-28 11:43:36     copypaste       unless he's really datamining or something
  597. 2015-11-28 11:43:37     n-tech  he doesn't trust me
  598. 2015-11-28 11:43:49     copypaste       what laws?
  599. 2015-11-28 11:44:06     n-tech  his tax shit is probably iffy, what he wants to do with 8chan might not be in people's best interest
  600. 2015-11-28 11:44:13     n-tech  he's afraid of having someone hurting 2channel from within
  601. 2015-11-28 11:44:17     n-tech  and you know what they say
  602. 2015-11-28 11:44:25     n-tech  never trust a man with long hair, a hoodie, and a laptop
  603. 2015-11-28 11:45:49     copypaste       jim
  604. 2015-11-28 11:45:49     copypaste       11:40 AM OK, I don't want to interact with him. Security is your responsibility. If you can control him we can hire him. In the future please talk to and explain to me before community efforts begin. It is my fault for never visiting the infinity next website.
  605. 2015-11-28 11:45:49     copypaste       copypaste
  606. 2015-11-28 11:45:49     copypaste       11:45 AM It was never the plan to hire him, at least it was never my plan. This was your idea and I entertained it, but I shouldn't have. The new software is well commented and uses a well-known framework "Laravel". We really don't need his help after it's done, though it would be nice. I planned to just let him go work on his Chinese chan (which yes, will probably fail) and then maintain it
  607. 2015-11-28 11:45:49     copypaste       myself, perhaps with RQI helping and share-alike my changes.
  608. 2015-11-28 11:45:49     copypaste       ​
  609. 2015-11-28 11:45:49     copypaste       11:45
  610. 2015-11-28 11:45:49     copypaste       That was the whole plan.
  611. 2015-11-28 11:45:49     copypaste       ​
  612. 2015-11-28 11:45:49     copypaste       11:45
  613. 2015-11-28 11:45:49     copypaste       You made alternate offers which confused things
  614. 2015-11-28 11:46:47     copypaste       I trusted that you understood the project's status considering it's public information, but I guess I was naive...
  615. 2015-11-28 11:47:21     copypaste       -
  616. 2015-11-28 11:47:36     copypaste       sorry if this hurts your feelings but it's all true, if you left we could continue to maintain it, that's the whole point of the rewrite
  617. 2015-11-28 11:47:45     n-tech  yeah that's the whole idea
  618. 2015-11-28 11:47:50     n-tech  that wouldn't hurt my feelings, it's what i wnat
  619. 2015-11-28 11:47:57     n-tech  people are disposable
  620. 2015-11-28 11:48:53     n-tech  i am finally chaotic neutral
  621. 2015-11-28 11:50:10     copypaste       I can't believe he offered you a salary even
  622. 2015-11-28 11:50:29     copypaste       I think he's going senile or way out of touch with the reality of the situation
  623. 2015-11-28 11:50:40     n-tech  he can't buy me and he hates it
  624. 2015-11-28 11:50:50     copypaste       Perhaps he wants you to take my place
  625. 2015-11-28 11:50:56     copypaste       That could be it, I wouldn't mind
  626. 2015-11-28 11:50:57     n-tech  THE SINGAPOREAN DREAM
  627. 2015-11-28 11:50:59     copypaste       lol
  628. 2015-11-28 11:51:06     copypaste       Or at least wanted
  629. 2015-11-28 11:51:16     n-tech  I doubt it, he fucking hates me apparently lol
  630. 2015-11-28 11:51:46     copypaste       At the end of the convo he fucking hated you
  631. 2015-11-28 11:51:50     copypaste       But at the beginning he was offering you shit
  632. 2015-11-28 11:51:54     copypaste       Did you hear 100,000?
  633. 2015-11-28 11:51:57     copypaste       That's pesos.
  634. 2015-11-28 11:52:01     n-tech  i her 100 but i don't know what that means lol
  635. 2015-11-28 11:52:03     n-tech  per month?
  636. 2015-11-28 11:52:08     copypaste       I'm positve.
  637. 2015-11-28 11:52:13     copypaste       That's how salaries are paid here.
  638. 2015-11-28 11:52:19     copypaste       Actually bi-weekly and 13th month pay.
  639. 2015-11-28 11:52:28     n-tech  + rent
  640. 2015-11-28 11:52:32     n-tech  that's almost as much as i made in aus
  641. 2015-11-28 11:52:39     copypaste       Mochi gets a salary of 10,000
  642. 2015-11-28 11:52:41     n-tech  if it was biweekly that's more than i made in aus
  643. 2015-11-28 11:52:42     n-tech  lol
  644. 2015-11-28 11:52:45     copypaste       For Christmas she gets an extra 10K
  645. 2015-11-28 11:52:49     copypaste       (this is a tradition here)
  646. 2015-11-28 11:52:54     n-tech  aww
  647. 2015-11-28 11:53:21     copypaste       It could be monthly, but since he quoted pesos
  648. 2015-11-28 11:53:27     copypaste       I think he wanted to pay you using the local system.
  649. 2015-11-28 11:53:53     n-tech  between 2600~4700$ a month
  650. 2015-11-28 11:53:58     n-tech  depending on if it was biweekly or not
  651. 2015-11-28 11:55:12     copypaste       jim
  652. 2015-11-28 11:55:12     copypaste       11:51 AM No I don't understand it. I felt sorry for Josh because he seemed to be getting a raw deal, and Ron was saying we should hire him. I am sorry I wasted your time.
  653. 2015-11-28 11:55:12     copypaste       copypaste
  654. 2015-11-28 11:55:12     copypaste       11:54 AM He is probably getting a raw deal, I agree. But he's very much a free spirited person. He really believes in this Chinese chan, and no one can talk him out of it. I'm fine with it, the project had been going so well until today
  655. 2015-11-28 11:55:12     copypaste       ​
  656. 2015-11-28 11:55:12     copypaste       11:54
  657. 2015-11-28 11:55:12     copypaste       We were planning to switch 8ch.net over on the 15th and by January have completely taken over development. Then he'd probably leave in February.
  658. 2015-11-28 11:55:46     copypaste       -
  659. 2015-11-28 11:57:11     n-tech  the issue is very much that he doesn't trust me because I have a code lol
  660. 2015-11-28 11:57:20     copypaste       lol
  661. 2015-11-28 11:57:36     copypaste       the code is open though
  662. 2015-11-28 11:57:39     copypaste       it's not like it's secret
  663. 2015-11-28 11:57:44     copypaste       he just doesn't like that he has to share
  664. 2015-11-28 11:57:58     copypaste       (even though that will be completely my responsibility)
  665. 2015-11-28 11:57:58     n-tech  he kept saying stuff about security but that's the main purpose of open source
  666. 2015-11-28 11:58:05     copypaste       i know
  667. 2015-11-28 11:58:09     copypaste       that's not the problem at all
  668. 2015-11-28 11:58:10     n-tech  and even if all of 8chan dumped
  669. 2015-11-28 11:58:14     n-tech  even if the contents of the beta server leaked
  670. 2015-11-28 11:58:17     n-tech  there is nothing valuable there
  671. 2015-11-28 11:58:22     copypaste       only PIs
  672. 2015-11-28 11:58:23     n-tech  even authorship data is retained for only 2 weeks
  673. 2015-11-28 11:58:25     copypaste       IPs*
  674. 2015-11-28 11:58:26     copypaste       yeah
  675. 2015-11-28 11:58:30     copypaste       that's even better than 8ch.net
  676. 2015-11-28 11:58:35     copypaste       which keeps it as long as posts exist.
  677. 2015-11-28 11:58:47     n-tech  yea and i tell people that and it always surprises them lol
  678. 2015-11-28 11:59:00     copypaste       I'll have to rewrite the privacy policy
  679. 2015-11-28 11:59:03     copypaste       To match the new software
  680. 2015-11-28 11:59:09     copypaste       Except this time it'll be better than the old one
  681. 2015-11-28 11:59:15     copypaste       no forced YT embeds and so on
  682. 2015-11-28 12:01:57     copypaste       so glad you accepted this license right now
  683. 2015-11-28 12:02:04     copypaste       we beat the man
  684. 2015-11-28 12:02:10     copypaste       he just folded
  685. 2015-11-28 12:03:24     n-tech  http://i.imgur.com/nE4yxFo.jpg
  686. 2015-11-28 12:06:37     copypaste       also
  687. 2015-11-28 12:06:45     copypaste       the last time i gave you money i told you it was a donation but i lied
  688. 2015-11-28 12:06:47     copypaste       that's true
  689. 2015-11-28 12:06:50     copypaste       i knew you wouldn't take it from me
  690. 2015-11-28 12:06:54     copypaste       unless you thought it was a donation
  691. 2015-11-28 12:06:56     copypaste       so, surprise! ( ≖‿≖)
  692. 2015-11-28 12:07:12     n-tech  did ron give you money ..?
  693. 2015-11-28 12:07:21     copypaste       Pulled it out of my savings
  694. 2015-11-28 12:07:27     n-tech  ;~; don't do that ok
  695. 2015-11-28 12:07:30     n-tech  stannis got my back
  696. 2015-11-28 12:07:33     n-tech  he a real trooper
  697. 2015-11-28 12:08:55     copypaste       i'm good now though, i thoght it would be hard but i got that oekaki contract
  698. 2015-11-28 12:09:01     copypaste       already signed and paid jim can't retract it
  699. 2015-11-28 12:28:54     n-tech  gcam [12:21 PM]
  700. 2015-11-28 12:28:54     n-tech  I want to save pages as a static site, to be served statically directly from nginx for speed
  701. 2015-11-28 12:28:54     n-tech  jawsh [12:28 PM]
  702. 2015-11-28 12:28:54     n-tech  not
  703. 2015-11-28 12:28:54     n-tech  ​[12:28]
  704. 2015-11-28 12:28:55     n-tech  no
  705. 2015-11-28 12:28:57     n-tech  ​[12:28]
  706. 2015-11-28 12:28:59     n-tech  no
  707. 2015-11-28 12:29:01     n-tech  ​[12:28]
  708. 2015-11-28 12:29:03     n-tech  no no no
  709. 2015-11-28 12:29:05     n-tech  ​[12:28]
  710. 2015-11-28 12:29:07     n-tech  do not do that
  711. 2015-11-28 12:29:09     n-tech  ​[12:28]
  712. 2015-11-28 12:29:11     n-tech  DO NOT do that
  713. 2015-11-28 12:35:54     n-tech  Is he still saying anything?
  714. 2015-11-28 13:21:40     n-tech  cwcvilletechsupport
  715. 2015-11-28 13:40:39     copypaste       sent
  716. 2015-11-28 13:40:44     copypaste       i called his cell in japan
  717. 2015-11-28 13:40:49     copypaste       he'll call you on skype when he has time
  718. 2015-11-28 13:40:58     n-tech  alrighty, thanks
  719. 2015-11-28 13:41:08     copypaste       also here's the schedule
  720. 2015-11-28 13:41:15     copypaste       Hey Fred. I’m preparing to order these tickets. So you and Josh will fly to Okinawa on the 21st. Then we all go to Sapporo on the 24th, then back on the 28th. Correct?Since Josh is with you, I’ll probably go to Tokyo on the 16th, and then meet you guys in Okinawa. I just need Josh's full name.
  721. 2015-11-28 13:41:29     n-tech  sweet
  722. 2015-11-28 13:41:30     copypaste       i told him your name already so that's all set
  723. 2015-11-28 13:41:30     n-tech  thanks
  724. 2015-11-28 13:41:42     copypaste       we're setting both extremes of japan
  725. 2015-11-28 13:41:44     copypaste       okinawa and sapporo
  726. 2015-11-28 13:41:45     copypaste       (⌐■‿■)
  727. 2015-11-28 13:42:10     copypaste       they sell dihydrocodeine OTC in japan so i will be high the whole time
  728. 2015-11-28 13:42:14     copypaste       it'll be a gr8 vacation
  729. 2015-11-28 13:42:21     n-tech  is that an upper or a downer
  730. 2015-11-28 13:42:35     copypaste       they mix it with caffeine
  731. 2015-11-28 13:42:37     copypaste       so both :DD
  732. 2015-11-28 13:42:41     n-tech  wew
  733. 2015-11-28 13:43:00     copypaste       i blame kara for all my drug experimentation
  734. 2015-11-28 13:43:02     copypaste       she got me into this shit
  735. 2015-11-28 13:43:04     copypaste       fucking bitch
  736. 2015-11-28 13:43:16     copypaste       before her i had never even drank alcohol
  737. 2015-11-28 13:43:20     copypaste       or smoked weed, or had sex
  738. 2015-11-28 13:43:24     n-tech  you still don't lightweight
  739. 2015-11-28 13:43:30     n-tech  ye you could be like me
  740. 2015-11-28 13:43:36     n-tech  viced by pure desire for productivity
  741. 2015-11-28 13:43:39     copypaste       lol
  742. 2015-11-28 13:43:39     n-tech  well then again i did all those things
  743. 2015-11-28 13:43:45     n-tech  but i still like productivity
  744. 2015-11-28 13:43:47     n-tech  sex isn't productive
  745. 2015-11-28 13:43:51     n-tech  only reproductive
  746. 2015-11-28 13:43:55     copypaste       after we did all that stuff
  747. 2015-11-28 13:43:56     n-tech  and ain't nobody got time for that
  748. 2015-11-28 13:44:00     copypaste       in a month we were doing psychedelic drugs
  749. 2015-11-28 13:44:08     copypaste       things ramped up fast
  750. 2015-11-28 13:44:11     copypaste       lol
  751. 2015-11-28 13:44:40     n-tech  lol
  752. 2015-11-28 13:44:44     n-tech  i've still never done psychadelics
  753. 2015-11-28 13:45:01     copypaste       it's the most fun i've ever had in my life
  754. 2015-11-28 13:45:05     copypaste       you should have taken my invitation
  755. 2015-11-28 13:45:08     copypaste       i don't get those very often
  756. 2015-11-28 13:45:11     copypaste       whenever i do i drop everything
  757. 2015-11-28 13:45:18     copypaste       clear the calendar
  758. 2015-11-28 13:45:22     copypaste       send mochi somewhere
  759. 2015-11-28 13:45:22     copypaste       lol
  760. 2015-11-28 13:55:59     --      irc: disconnected from server
  761. 2015-11-28 14:52:05             [copypaste away: Not here right now. since 2015-11-28 14:52:05+0800]
  762. 2015-11-28 15:00:58     n-tech  How much bandwidth does have 8chan have?
  763. 2015-11-28 15:29:55             [copypaste back: gone 00:37:49]
  764. 2015-11-28 15:30:26     copypaste       20TB monthly thereabouts
  765. 2015-11-28 15:30:34     copypaste       it's not being unplugged so we don't have to worry about it yet
  766. 2015-11-28 15:30:36     copypaste       but yeah
  767. 2015-11-28 15:30:44     copypaste       i was hoping that this would lower that by 20% or so
  768. 2015-11-28 15:30:49     copypaste       but we'll have to see ...
  769. 2015-11-28 19:43:24     copypaste       did you talk to ron ?
  770. 2015-11-28 19:43:36     copypaste       i think i have a solution that makes everyone happy
  771. 2015-11-28 19:44:26     copypaste       you are hired by Ron's company, you get instructions from Ron and I (mostly just "pls help me implement X"), and you don't have to talk to Jim at all
  772. 2015-11-28 19:44:35     copypaste       you also aren't privy to any RQI/NTT info so Jim won't care about you
  773. 2015-11-28 19:44:59     copypaste       Jim seemed to like this solution
  774. 2015-11-28 19:46:53     copypaste       and we have you for a year in case we need help with anything (which we are bound to even though we could figure it out ourselves)
  775. 2015-11-28 19:47:04     copypaste       ron seems to really like you which is good news for you
  776. 2015-11-28 19:47:14     copypaste       Ron is the Dick Cheney to Jim's George W Bush
  777. 2015-11-28 23:54:14     --      irc: disconnected from server
  778. 2015-11-29 00:30:13     --      irc: disconnected from server
  779. 2015-11-29 00:59:48     n-tech  Ron is amiable. I just don't know what the terms of employment would be.
  780. 2015-11-29 00:59:56     n-tech  If it's just fix stuff on 8chan, add proprietary module to complement public software
  781. 2015-11-29 00:59:59     n-tech  I can do that no problem
  782. 2015-11-29 01:00:08     n-tech  but I'm very opinionated. He needs to know that.
  783. 2015-11-29 03:14:20     --      irc: disconnected from server
  784. 2015-11-29 17:32:33     copypaste       ron can handle it much better than jim
  785. 2015-11-29 17:32:49     copypaste       jim is someone everyone walks on eggshells around
  786. 2015-11-29 17:33:11     copypaste       ron would at least listen to your criticism of softserve or anything even if he didn't agree
  787. 2015-11-29 17:33:16     copypaste       jim would just explode
  788. 2015-11-29 17:33:24     copypaste       whenever i really want something i talk to ron and he makes it happen
  789. 2015-11-29 17:33:30     copypaste       start doing that and you'll be alright
  790. 2015-11-29 17:34:14     copypaste       he doesn't even understand why 2ch is still in business, the real reason
  791. 2015-11-29 17:34:21     copypaste       not that the other textboards don't scale, that's a lod of shit
  792. 2015-11-29 17:34:31     copypaste       it's just a very old, very popular site that everyone knows about
  793. 2015-11-29 17:34:59     copypaste       if it was just as easy as "if you build it they will come" he would have been broke last year when all that drama happened
  794. 2015-11-29 17:35:52     n-tech  yea that's why 4chan stays up
  795. 2015-11-29 17:36:07     n-tech  they can abuse the user's trust as long as they want because the oldest users were there when they were kids
  796. 2015-11-29 17:37:17     copypaste       after that little incident yesterday
  797. 2015-11-29 17:37:25     copypaste       i am going to be much more careful around jim
  798. 2015-11-29 17:37:48     n-tech  I don't consider him trustworthy at all, like that was almost lolcowish
  799. 2015-11-29 17:37:53     n-tech  EXECUTE ORDER SIX SIX
  800. 2015-11-29 17:37:54     copypaste       yeah i agree
  801. 2015-11-29 17:38:19     n-tech  i would have totally started up 16ch.sg the same day
  802. 2015-11-29 17:38:28     copypaste       if he shut it down, sure
  803. 2015-11-29 17:38:32     copypaste       but he was just bluffing
  804. 2015-11-29 17:38:32     n-tech  ye
  805. 2015-11-29 17:38:34     copypaste       throwing a tantrum
  806. 2015-11-29 17:38:35     n-tech  ye
  807. 2015-11-29 17:38:40     n-tech  he couldn't buy me
  808. 2015-11-29 17:38:45     n-tech  i am true chaotic neutral
  809. 2015-11-29 17:38:50     n-tech  the autism elemental
  810. 2015-11-29 17:38:58     copypaste       i told him befroe to just close it if he's mad about the money
  811. 2015-11-29 17:39:17     copypaste       but it's not the money he's concerned about, he told me at taco bell that he's afraid 2ch is getting too far in the past
  812. 2015-11-29 17:39:23     copypaste       he's afraid of twitter and other sites the japs are using now
  813. 2015-11-29 17:39:33     copypaste       he sees it as a testbed in a language he can understand
  814. 2015-11-29 17:40:32     n-tech  lol, if he had funded it from the beginning I probably would have been okay with it
  815. 2015-11-29 17:40:34     n-tech  but he didn't
  816. 2015-11-29 17:40:38     n-tech  8chan owns that software
  817. 2015-11-29 17:41:05     n-tech  I can afford to work ...
  818. 2015-11-29 17:41:06     n-tech  17 days and 8 hours
  819. 2015-11-29 17:41:06     n-tech  ... thanks to $12,045 donated by generous contributors,
  820. 2015-11-29 17:41:06     n-tech  who have supported development for 208 days so far.
  821. 2015-11-29 17:47:57     copypaste       indeed
  822. 2015-11-29 17:48:01     copypaste       he didn't like the idea at first
  823. 2015-11-29 17:48:08     copypaste       now that it's almost done he wants to be cut in
  824. 2015-11-29 17:48:22     copypaste       8chan was still working back when we started, remember
  825. 2015-11-29 17:48:27     copypaste       he probably thought it was unnecessary
  826. 2015-11-29 17:48:48     n-tech  ye the true inspo for this was the posts_ table
  827. 2015-11-29 17:48:49     copypaste       and not only that, any ad revenue or whatever is still his
  828. 2015-11-29 17:48:56     n-tech  which is now one of the lesser issues
  829. 2015-11-29 17:48:57     copypaste       anything else his RQI guys amke is his
  830. 2015-11-29 17:49:01     copypaste       just this is owned by the community
  831. 2015-11-29 17:49:06     copypaste       he is a straight up dick about it
  832. 2015-11-29 17:49:28     copypaste       yeah i remember
  833. 2015-11-29 17:57:08     n-tech  I find myself doubleposting a lot on Next
  834. 2015-11-29 17:57:15     n-tech  not like, on accident
  835. 2015-11-29 17:57:21     n-tech  I will follow up my first post with a second idea
  836. 2015-11-29 17:57:28     n-tech  I guess because it posts so quickly it's not like a formal arrangement
  837. 2015-11-29 17:57:32     n-tech  it's simple to tack on a second though
  838. 2015-11-29 17:57:35     n-tech  thought*
  839. 2015-11-29 18:08:28     n-tech  https://beta.8ch.net/sp/
  840. 2015-11-29 18:08:34     n-tech  >tfw /sp/ has 8 full pages already
  841. 2015-11-29 18:09:02     n-tech  I just realized their board looks a LOT like 8ch too
  842. 2015-11-29 18:09:11     n-tech  Mark's idea to borrow CSS from other boards was great
  843. 2015-11-29 18:09:19     n-tech  /nexttest/ is cascading CSS into a bunch of different boards
  844. 2015-11-29 18:09:29     n-tech  so the owners dont have to keep them current
  845. 2015-11-30 18:58:15     n-tech  http://8ch.net/cow/res/183655.html#184729
  846. 2015-11-30 18:58:16     n-tech  hahahaha
  847. 2015-11-30 19:06:17     copypaste       what an attetion whore
  848. 2015-11-30 19:06:31     copypaste       if i were him i'd lay low
  849. 2015-11-30 19:06:34     copypaste       his dox are out there
  850. 2015-11-30 19:06:36     n-tech  his board officially flatlined, no activity for a week
  851. 2015-11-30 19:06:49     copypaste       make too much of a fool of yourself and you will lose your job
  852. 2015-11-30 19:06:52     copypaste       that is america for you
  853. 2015-11-30 19:08:19     copypaste       that's not a threat either, it's just there are plenty of weens out there
  854. 2015-11-30 19:08:25     copypaste       if you get yourself involved with them
  855. 2015-11-30 19:08:29     copypaste       don't be surprised when they turn on you
  856. 2015-11-30 19:09:25     n-tech  yea, i already know, i told him this was the dumbest fucking idea ever
  857. 2015-11-30 19:09:29     n-tech  this whole /baph/ with usernames shit
  858. 2015-11-30 19:09:56     n-tech  you can't hold a professional relationship, live with someone who is a young girl trying to get by with her life, and be some dankweb le masked man le black fedora hacker
  859. 2015-11-30 19:10:12     copypaste       you could if the two identities weren't connected
  860. 2015-11-30 19:10:18     copypaste       but he cannot just not tripfag
  861. 2015-11-30 19:10:24     copypaste       he's a narcissist or something, it's strange
  862. 2015-11-30 19:20:06     n-tech  your moment of zen
  863. 2015-11-30 19:20:06     n-tech  http://imgur.com/gallery/llzE3E3
  864. 2015-11-30 19:22:48     copypaste       lol
  865. 2015-11-30 19:22:50     copypaste       nice one
  866. 2015-11-30 19:23:13     n-tech  i've decided im gonna do all my chrsitmas shopping in Japan
  867. 2015-11-30 19:23:34     copypaste       good idea, especially if you're buying a lot of electronics
  868. 2015-11-30 19:23:42     n-tech  gifts for 11 year old boy, 14 year old girl, two 40 year old woman, 45 year old man, 70 year old woman, 70 year old man
  869. 2015-11-30 19:23:46     n-tech  gonna be tuff
  870. 2015-11-30 19:23:48     copypaste       but remember, we're not going to like shoping centers
  871. 2015-11-30 19:24:11     n-tech  are we hitting up places in particular?
  872. 2015-11-30 19:24:14     copypaste       i give my mother a gift card, mochi 10k pesos and that's it
  873. 2015-11-30 19:24:16     copypaste       lol
  874. 2015-11-30 19:24:35     copypaste       ba humbug :^)
  875. 2015-11-30 19:24:53     n-tech  The boy likes baseball so I wanna find him some weird Jap baseball thing
  876. 2015-11-30 19:24:53     copypaste       but anyway, we're going to okinawa and sapporo
  877. 2015-11-30 19:24:58     copypaste       a beach and a winter wonderland
  878. 2015-11-30 19:25:08     copypaste       we're staying in a log cabin in sapporo, apparently
  879. 2015-11-30 19:25:14     n-tech  oh dang
  880. 2015-11-30 19:25:28     copypaste       yeah we're not going to tokyo
  881. 2015-11-30 19:25:48     copypaste       if i were you i'd buy them their gifts on amazon
  882. 2015-11-30 19:25:56     copypaste       amazon has gift wrapping, you can add a message
  883. 2015-11-30 19:26:15     copypaste       beats having to speak broken japanese to random hick attendants and then mail all that shit
  884. 2015-11-30 19:26:17     copypaste       but hey up to you
  885. 2015-11-30 20:17:32     copypaste       haha, mochi told me she saw you at isetann
  886. 2015-11-30 20:17:39     n-tech  yeee
  887. 2015-11-30 20:17:45     n-tech  she had a big box of reeses n i was like
  888. 2015-11-30 20:17:48     n-tech  oh he was hungry wasn't he
  889. 2015-11-30 20:17:50     copypaste       oh yeah
  890. 2015-11-30 20:17:53     copypaste       that's my coke zero
  891. 2015-11-30 20:17:54     copypaste       lol
  892. 2015-11-30 20:18:12     n-tech  nothing can replace caffeine, i tried so hard to quit it for years and years, even if i stop for months
  893. 2015-11-30 20:18:14     n-tech  it's like
  894. 2015-11-30 20:18:21     n-tech  i just feel better and more productive on a hyper caffeine buzz
  895. 2015-11-30 20:18:26     copypaste       sounds like me and pills
  896. 2015-11-30 20:18:30     copypaste       i can relate
  897. 2015-11-30 20:18:45     copypaste       over 4 years now i have had a full time habit
  898. 2015-11-30 20:19:16     n-tech  ye your body is as bad as my brain
  899. 2015-11-30 20:19:23     copypaste       i've tried to quit many times, but once i get past withdrawals i can't do anything due to pain
  900. 2015-11-30 20:19:30     copypaste       so i get back on
  901. 2015-11-30 20:20:17     copypaste       it is getting really hard to get them in the US now, so i hear
  902. 2015-11-30 20:20:27     copypaste       obama gave a speech about the pill/heroin epidemic
  903. 2015-11-30 20:20:38     copypaste       the CDC released new guidelines
  904. 2015-11-30 20:20:45     copypaste       FDA rejected some new opiate combo
  905. 2015-11-30 20:21:14     copypaste       i'm sure i could find them again if i went back though. i have a natural talent for it
  906. 2015-12-01 14:42:10             [copypaste away: Not here right now. since 2015-12-01 14:42:10+0800]
  907. 2015-12-01 14:59:20             [copypaste back: gone 00:17:09]
  908. 2015-12-01 16:08:25             [copypaste away: Not here right now. since 2015-12-01 16:08:25+0800]
  909. 2015-12-01 16:08:45             [copypaste back: gone 00:00:19]
  910. 2015-12-02 05:11:20     n-tech  https:[email protected],121.0540314,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m8!1e2!3m6!1s3NsJ-qDDkqIAAAQfDnerEQ!2e0!3e3!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fphotoid%3D3NsJ-qDDkqIAAAQfDnerEQ%26output%3Dphoto%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26minw%3D203%26minh%3D100!7i1600!8i2133!4m5!1m2!2m1!1sM+Lhuillier+Padala!3m1!1s0x0000000000000000:0xa9757bf05e2286e9!6m1!1e1
  911. 2015-12-02 05:11:28     n-tech  let me know where this palce is when you wake up
  912. 2015-12-02 12:09:03     copypaste       oh uh
  913. 2015-12-02 12:09:05     copypaste       uhh
  914. 2015-12-02 12:16:02     copypaste       i'm sorry i don't know
  915. 2015-12-02 12:16:16     copypaste       i go to cebuana not that one
  916. 2015-12-02 12:17:49     copypaste       it says it's by the bus station
  917. 2015-12-02 12:17:52     copypaste       look around there
  918. 2015-12-02 17:39:08     --      irc: disconnected from server
  919. 2015-12-02 23:52:27     copypaste       thought you'd get a kick out of this https://my.mixtape.moe/ielegc.jpg
  920. 2015-12-02 23:52:36     copypaste       she looks like a real charmer
  921. 2015-12-02 23:55:35     n-tech  she reminds me of someone but i can't lay a finger on who
  922. 2015-12-02 23:55:47     n-tech  I REMEMBER
  923. 2015-12-02 23:55:52     copypaste       she has a very strong jaw
  924. 2015-12-02 23:55:55     copypaste       almost looks like a man
  925. 2015-12-02 23:56:04     n-tech  NO GET THIS HOLD ON
  926. 2015-12-02 23:56:07     copypaste       ok
  927. 2015-12-02 23:56:15     copypaste       thats also true though
  928. 2015-12-02 23:56:17     n-tech  http://i.imgur.com/rTwfeFN.jpg
  929. 2015-12-02 23:56:18     copypaste       t. lookism expert
  930. 2015-12-02 23:56:29     copypaste       pffhahaha
  931. 2015-12-02 23:56:37     copypaste       quinn has since gotten fat
  932. 2015-12-02 23:56:40     copypaste       that's an old pic of her
  933. 2015-12-02 23:58:33     copypaste       unless she lost the weight again
  934. 2015-12-02 23:58:37     copypaste       perhaps she's bulimic?
  935. 2015-12-02 23:58:41     copypaste       binging and purging, binging and purging
  936. 2015-12-02 23:58:47     copypaste       women mental disorders are the most hilariosu
  937. 2015-12-02 23:58:58     n-tech  please send him this
  938. 2015-12-02 23:59:02     n-tech  http://i.imgur.com/IqWMSER.gif
  939. 2015-12-03 00:01:53     copypaste       wow, that is truly uncanny
  940. 2015-12-03 00:01:58     copypaste       everything matches except the jaw
  941. 2015-12-03 00:02:08     copypaste       glaive's gf's is more manly
  942. 2015-12-03 00:02:09     n-tech  jaw's just because she's fat
  943. 2015-12-03 00:02:17     copypaste       lol
  944. 2015-12-03 00:02:19     n-tech  if she didn't have a half chin under the first
  945. 2015-12-03 00:02:21     n-tech  it'd be the same line
  946. 2015-12-03 00:02:23     n-tech  you can see the detail
  947. 2015-12-03 00:02:32     copypaste       you can perhaps. i'll take your word for it
  948. 2015-12-03 00:02:39     copypaste       guess i'm nto such a lookism expert after all
  949. 2015-12-03 00:02:40     copypaste       :^)
  950. 2015-12-03 13:15:45             [copypaste away: Not here right now. since 2015-12-03 13:15:45+0800]
  951. 2015-12-03 13:16:55             [copypaste back: gone 00:01:09]
  952. 2015-12-03 18:04:00     n-tech  after my talk with Jim I became very worried which is why I did all that research
  953. 2015-12-03 18:04:14     n-tech  The unfortunate thing is that it seems 8chan is impossible as anything other than a side project to a larger, forward-facing entity
  954. 2015-12-03 18:04:49     n-tech  I figure if Jim quits you'd just give up
  955. 2015-12-03 18:14:54     copypaste       publicly
  956. 2015-12-03 18:15:04     copypaste       privately i'd help uguu
  957. 2015-12-03 18:15:12     n-tech  with 2channel?
  958. 2015-12-03 18:15:22     copypaste       uguu doesn't run 2ch
  959. 2015-12-03 18:15:26     n-tech  OH
  960. 2015-12-03 18:15:27     copypaste       or know anything about it
  961. 2015-12-03 18:15:29     copypaste       lol
  962. 2015-12-03 18:15:31     n-tech  i thought uguu was just like
  963. 2015-12-03 18:15:32     n-tech  a sentiment
  964. 2015-12-03 18:15:33     n-tech  lol
  965. 2015-12-03 18:15:37     copypaste       no
  966. 2015-12-03 18:15:38     copypaste       lol
  967. 2015-12-03 18:15:51     n-tech  I'm building a contingency plan
  968. 2015-12-03 18:16:15     copypaste       when you get to the CP problems it becomes even more of a messy situatoin
  969. 2015-12-03 18:16:29     n-tech  It'll be taken care of by fuzzy banning
  970. 2015-12-03 18:16:31     copypaste       very few hosts will put up with sending you many "pls delete this CP"
  971. 2015-12-03 18:16:35     copypaste       i hope so
  972. 2015-12-03 18:16:41     copypaste       is fuzzy bannign working by the 15th?
  973. 2015-12-03 18:17:06     n-tech  maybe, i can rush that after the migration
  974. 2015-12-03 18:17:19     copypaste       i wouldn't worry about jim if i were you. he's a figurehead
  975. 2015-12-03 18:17:24     copypaste       he thinks he is in charge but ron is in charge
  976. 2015-12-03 18:17:26     copypaste       i know the score
  977. 2015-12-03 18:17:45     copypaste       ok. let's focus first on migration but we really need fuzzy banning .
  978. 2015-12-03 18:17:49     copypaste       either with phash
  979. 2015-12-03 18:17:53     copypaste       or whatever you may find that would be better
  980. 2015-12-03 18:17:56     copypaste       i think phash is best though
  981. 2015-12-03 18:23:31     n-tech  Why did you think Jim wanted to replace you?
  982. 2015-12-03 19:26:45     copypaste       did i think that?
  983. 2015-12-03 21:19:30             [copypaste away: Not here right now. since 2015-12-03 21:19:30+0800]
  984. 2015-12-03 23:34:20             [copypaste back: gone 02:14:49]
  985. 2015-12-06 07:49:00     n-tech  let me know when I can come over, i need my documents
  986. 2015-12-08 17:06:36     <<      n-tech ([email protected]) has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
  987. 2015-12-08 17:11:11     >>      n-tech ([email protected]:2E383ACB:9A9D32F5:IP) is back on server
  988. 2015-12-10 15:21:32     copypaste       you ever had a cat that you had to put one of those funnels on em
  989. 2015-12-10 15:21:49     copypaste       i originally wasn't going to fix the orange cat but he started humping me pretty much hourly
  990. 2015-12-10 15:21:53     copypaste       so i did that
  991. 2015-12-10 15:22:02     n-tech  Only for a short time. It stops them from biting or licking medication or stitches.
  992. 2015-12-10 15:22:06     copypaste       yeah
  993. 2015-12-10 15:22:11     copypaste       he hates the funnel, it's sad ;_;
  994. 2015-12-10 15:22:19     copypaste       like flailing around, he's calmer now though
  995. 2015-12-10 15:22:19     n-tech  he'll be fine
  996. 2015-12-10 15:22:31     copypaste       gotta accept the funnel
  997. 2015-12-10 15:22:34     copypaste       grieving process
  998. 2015-12-10 15:22:35     copypaste       etc
  999. 2015-12-10 15:22:36     copypaste       lol
  1000. 2015-12-10 15:22:54     n-tech  ye it's for his own good, otherwise he might open his scrotum and get an infection
  1001. 2015-12-10 15:22:58     n-tech  i think that's worse than the funnel
  1002. 2015-12-10 15:26:14     copypaste       then again violent thrashing could do the same
  1003. 2015-12-10 15:26:26     copypaste       but yeah, he's calmed down. nevermind
  1004. 2015-12-10 15:26:51     copypaste       i hate having cats fixed, i was a kid when my parents did this and rose colored glasses blocked all this shit out
  1005. 2015-12-10 15:26:56     copypaste       it's so sad and so much work
  1006. 2015-12-10 15:27:14     copypaste       they look so upset and confused
  1007. 2015-12-10 15:28:14     n-tech  it stops overpopulation and calms the animal. i never understood not getting them fixed. they start spraying too
  1008. 2015-12-10 15:28:29     n-tech  you really only have need to keep an animal unfixed when you want to breed them
  1009. 2015-12-10 15:28:31     copypaste       there's not that many cats on the 20th storey
  1010. 2015-12-10 15:28:39     copypaste       cheeto doesn't exactly have good genetics
  1011. 2015-12-10 15:28:45     copypaste       he's retarded, bad balance and fucked up tail/hip
  1012. 2015-12-10 15:28:45     copypaste       lol
  1013. 2015-12-10 15:28:50     copypaste       ;_;
  1014. 2015-12-10 15:29:00     n-tech  lol
  1015. 2015-12-10 15:29:15     copypaste       i'm almost positive they sold me a street cat
  1016. 2015-12-10 15:29:18     copypaste       it's cool though
  1017. 2015-12-10 15:29:27     copypaste       as a kitten you couldn't tell any of that
  1018. 2015-12-10 15:30:08     n-tech  it defects may be a side effect of poor breeding
  1019. 2015-12-10 15:30:19     copypaste       but yeah the humping was what did it for me
  1020. 2015-12-10 15:30:24     copypaste       i don't mind spraying, mochi can clean it up
  1021. 2015-12-10 15:30:36     copypaste       but the constant humping of people and objects
  1022. 2015-12-10 15:30:38     copypaste       and my blanket
  1023. 2015-12-10 15:30:40     copypaste       just lol
  1024. 2015-12-10 15:30:53     n-tech  just hope you did it early enough
  1025. 2015-12-10 15:31:04     n-tech  some animals continue to do it because they learned to
  1026. 2015-12-10 15:31:12     n-tech  that's why they advise that you do it before anyting annoying happens
  1027. 2015-12-10 15:31:12     copypaste       hmm
  1028. 2015-12-10 15:31:17     copypaste       yea
  1029. 2015-12-10 15:31:20     copypaste       well
  1030. 2015-12-10 15:31:33     copypaste       hachi almost died, so i was scared
  1031. 2015-12-10 15:31:40     copypaste       that vet is retarded
  1032. 2015-12-10 15:31:57     copypaste       they had to keep hachi for a week there
  1033. 2015-12-10 15:32:11     copypaste       i figured it wasn';t their fault but after this i know it was, they're just incompetent
  1034. 2015-12-10 15:32:17     copypaste       we were supposed to pick cheeto up yesterday
  1035. 2015-12-10 15:32:22     copypaste       mochi arrived 15 minutes before closing
  1036. 2015-12-10 15:32:29     copypaste       and yet they were still closed and the guard said to come back tomorrow
  1037. 2015-12-10 15:32:34     copypaste       fucking bitch doctor left early
  1038. 2015-12-10 15:32:44     copypaste       even though i texted and said she was on the way
  1039. 2015-12-10 15:32:48     n-tech  lol
  1040. 2015-12-10 15:32:50     n-tech  what a cunt
  1041. 2015-12-10 15:33:03     copypaste       i don't even think they fed him
  1042. 2015-12-10 15:33:11     copypaste       first thing he did was run to the food tray
  1043. 2015-12-10 15:33:55     n-tech  even if they did feed him they probably gave him what'd be considered a healthy diet instead of whatever he wants
  1044. 2015-12-10 15:34:06     copypaste       lol
  1045. 2015-12-10 15:34:07     n-tech  i.e a half cup
  1046. 2015-12-10 15:34:14     n-tech  also /pol/ loves my image http://8ch.net/pol/src/1449730381098.png
  1047. 2015-12-10 15:34:15     copypaste       ok well
  1048. 2015-12-10 15:34:31     copypaste       the whole procedure was only 5k php
  1049. 2015-12-10 15:34:36     copypaste       also lol
  1050. 2015-12-10 15:34:37     copypaste       that image
  1051. 2015-12-10 15:35:16     copypaste       im still voting trump
  1052. 2015-12-10 15:35:18     copypaste       ( ≖‿≖)
  1053. 2015-12-10 15:35:35     copypaste       trump isn't perfect but hillary is the antichrist
  1054. 2015-12-10 15:36:02     n-tech  you can vote for trump but it should be made clear to all of his think tank people that that sort of rhetoric will cost him fans
  1055. 2015-12-10 15:36:08     n-tech  people blindly supporting him are endangering themselves
  1056. 2015-12-10 15:36:11     copypaste       indeed
  1057. 2015-12-10 15:36:25     copypaste       well let's just say that my support for him took a seriosu blow
  1058. 2015-12-10 15:36:30     copypaste       but american elections are always shit
  1059. 2015-12-10 15:36:37     copypaste       it's always the better of two evils
  1060. 2015-12-10 15:36:56     n-tech  I just want trump to win so that people stil being such pussies
  1061. 2015-12-10 15:36:59     copypaste       in 2012 obama v. romney, i hated both those cunts so much i voted third party
  1062. 2015-12-10 15:37:27     copypaste       i was 18 at the time
  1063. 2015-12-10 15:37:51     n-tech  My prediction is still that
  1064. 2015-12-10 15:38:04     n-tech  Bernie Sanders will get the Democratic nomination and Ted Cruz will get the Republican nomation
  1065. 2015-12-10 15:38:14     n-tech  and then Trump will run under the Trump Party for America ticket and win
  1066. 2015-12-10 15:38:28     copypaste       who the f is ted cruz?
  1067. 2015-12-10 15:38:32     n-tech  this is especially true if it's Hillizard instead of Sanders
  1068. 2015-12-10 15:38:33     copypaste       i've heard of rubio
  1069. 2015-12-10 15:38:38     n-tech  Ted Cruz is the 2nd in the polls
  1070. 2015-12-10 15:38:40     copypaste       that other nigger whose name escapes me
  1071. 2015-12-10 15:38:42     copypaste       oh
  1072. 2015-12-10 15:38:43     copypaste       ok
  1073. 2015-12-10 15:38:43     n-tech  iirc
  1074. 2015-12-10 15:39:11     copypaste       cruz sounds like some mexican
  1075. 2015-12-10 15:40:33     n-tech  Even though Trump is basically a meme candidate I think he has a great shot at winning simply because he is the first president anyone has been truly excited about in forever
  1076. 2015-12-10 15:40:34     copypaste       he's pretty ugly
  1077. 2015-12-10 15:40:38     copypaste       i guess i'm uniinformed
  1078. 2015-12-10 15:40:41     copypaste       i've never heard of this guy
  1079. 2015-12-10 15:40:50     n-tech  holy shit i just found thisheadline
  1080. 2015-12-10 15:40:54     n-tech  Poll: 68% of Trump’s supporters would vote for him if he bolts the GOP
  1081. 2015-12-10 15:40:55     n-tech  hahaha
  1082. 2015-12-10 15:40:56     n-tech  AHAHAHAHA
  1083. 2015-12-10 15:40:59     n-tech  JOSH PREDICTIONS
  1084. 2015-12-10 15:40:59     copypaste       lol
  1085. 2015-12-10 15:41:02     n-tech  THE PROGNOSTICATOR
  1086. 2015-12-10 15:41:05     n-tech  OF PROGNOSTICATORS
  1087. 2015-12-10 15:41:17     copypaste       how's the migrate script coming btw?
  1088. 2015-12-10 15:41:28     copypaste       are we still on target for a shutdown of 8ch on the 14th and a switchover on the 15th?
  1089. 2015-12-10 15:41:36     n-tech  ye easily
  1090. 2015-12-10 15:41:40     copypaste       great
  1091. 2015-12-10 15:41:53     n-tech  btw Lynx found an ally
  1092. 2015-12-10 15:42:01     copypaste       who ?
  1093. 2015-12-10 15:42:05     n-tech  http://freech.net/fam/res/27857.html
  1094. 2015-12-10 15:42:06     n-tech  /ints/
  1095. 2015-12-10 15:42:10     copypaste       lol
  1096. 2015-12-10 15:42:33     copypaste       "can't we have it but without board creation?"
  1097. 2015-12-10 15:42:43     copypaste       they're odd
  1098. 2015-12-10 15:42:59     n-tech  well they only want /fam/
  1099. 2015-12-10 15:43:26     copypaste       they have a captcha
  1100. 2015-12-10 15:43:29     copypaste       wow what nazi mods
  1101. 2015-12-10 15:43:33     n-tech  i told you
  1102. 2015-12-10 15:43:33     copypaste       omg let's abandon freech
  1103. 2015-12-10 15:43:36     copypaste       i cannot believe dis
  1104. 2015-12-10 15:43:40     n-tech  you ignore my big rants on /tech/
  1105. 2015-12-10 15:43:42     n-tech  and /v/
  1106. 2015-12-10 15:43:47     n-tech  I use this exact case as why we have captchas
  1107. 2015-12-10 15:43:49     copypaste       i skim them
  1108. 2015-12-10 15:43:52     n-tech  /ints/ fought and cried about captchas
  1109. 2015-12-10 15:43:55     copypaste       i don't like reading angry posts
  1110. 2015-12-10 15:43:56     n-tech  and then Bui bombed them
  1111. 2015-12-10 15:43:58     copypaste       lol
  1112. 2015-12-10 15:43:59     n-tech  now they're on freech
  1113. 2015-12-10 15:44:01     n-tech  and have a captcha
  1114. 2015-12-10 15:44:08     copypaste       did bui bomb them on freech as well ?
  1115. 2015-12-10 15:44:12     n-tech  yes
  1116. 2015-12-10 15:44:21     n-tech  they can't turn it off
  1117. 2015-12-10 15:44:24     n-tech  someone runs a bot 24/7
  1118. 2015-12-10 15:44:26     n-tech  he second it goes off
  1119. 2015-12-10 15:44:29     n-tech  huge walls of text
  1120. 2015-12-10 15:44:32     copypaste       yeah
  1121. 2015-12-10 15:44:33     n-tech  "AHAHAHAAHAHAHA"
  1122. 2015-12-10 15:44:34     copypaste       same with 8chan
  1123. 2015-12-10 15:44:38     copypaste       there's nothing anyone can do
  1124. 2015-12-10 15:44:42     copypaste       the quicker people realize that the better
  1125. 2015-12-10 15:45:24     copypaste       i just hope that when AI is smart enough to it's also smart enough to do some good automated spam detection
  1126. 2015-12-10 15:46:07     n-tech  it's probably going to be impossible to have true anoniminity soon because of that
  1127. 2015-12-10 15:46:29     n-tech  you'll have to verify personhood somehow
  1128. 2015-12-10 15:46:31     copypaste       an AI spam library is going to be the next killer library
  1129. 2015-12-10 15:46:33     copypaste       like jquery and so on
  1130. 2015-12-10 15:46:49     n-tech  btw how do you feel about Microsoft PhotoDNA
  1131. 2015-12-10 15:46:56     n-tech  people are saying im wasting my time with my own lib
  1132. 2015-12-10 15:46:57     copypaste       i don't like it
  1133. 2015-12-10 15:46:58     n-tech  and should just use that
  1134. 2015-12-10 15:47:01     copypaste       i think it should be free software
  1135. 2015-12-10 15:47:12     copypaste       we can't afford a photodna license
  1136. 2015-12-10 15:47:24     n-tech  I thought it was free wtf
  1137. 2015-12-10 15:48:01     n-tech  wow fuck that it is totally proprietary and totally pay to use
  1138. 2015-12-10 15:48:04     copypaste       yes
  1139. 2015-12-10 15:48:09     copypaste       it is, how can we use it then?
  1140. 2015-12-10 15:48:14     copypaste       we can't afford that with our epic incomes
  1141. 2015-12-10 15:48:15     copypaste       lol
  1142. 2015-12-10 15:48:19     n-tech  I thought that they donated it to the NCMEC
  1143. 2015-12-10 15:48:30     n-tech  is NCMEC the one profiting off of this?
  1144. 2015-12-10 15:48:32     copypaste       yes, they donated -a license- to ncmec
  1145. 2015-12-10 15:48:52     copypaste       a nontransferrable license
  1146. 2015-12-10 15:48:59     copypaste       only for them
  1147. 2015-12-10 15:50:27     n-tech  the one thing I hate about big projects
  1148. 2015-12-10 15:50:30     n-tech  is that I am constantly learning
  1149. 2015-12-10 15:50:35     n-tech  and constantly annoyed by my own naivety
  1150. 2015-12-10 15:50:41     copypaste       heh same
  1151. 2015-12-10 15:50:58     copypaste       it really irritates me how shitty 8chan is
  1152. 2015-12-10 15:51:03     copypaste       i was so naive in 2013 when i hacked up vichan
  1153. 2015-12-10 15:51:06     copypaste       if i could go back
  1154. 2015-12-10 15:51:10     copypaste       this would have never happened
  1155. 2015-12-10 15:51:33     n-tech  idk if it's possible to have saved vichan
  1156. 2015-12-10 15:51:40     copypaste       i was still coming down off of mushrooms when i did it
  1157. 2015-12-10 15:51:45     copypaste       that makes it worse
  1158. 2015-12-10 15:51:48     copypaste       lol
  1159. 2015-12-10 15:52:03     copypaste       dev time of 8chan v1 was 2 days straight
  1160. 2015-12-10 15:53:27     copypaste       you might be right, which is why i should have made my own engine
  1161. 2015-12-10 15:53:31     copypaste       instead of riding on vichan
  1162. 2015-12-10 15:53:43     copypaste       vichan doesn't even work well for small chans
  1163. 2015-12-10 15:55:12     n-tech  no, even freech (a board with ~20 people tops) has the same problems 8chan does with tinyboard.
  1164. 2015-12-10 15:55:34     copypaste       yeah
  1165. 2015-12-10 15:55:58     copypaste       i just had so much history with TB-based chans
  1166. 2015-12-10 15:55:59     copypaste       ;_;
  1167. 2015-12-10 15:56:09     n-tech  check this
  1168. 2015-12-10 15:56:12     copypaste       i was a very active user on the chan TB was written for
  1169. 2015-12-10 15:56:14     copypaste       for example
  1170. 2015-12-10 15:56:29     n-tech  I've build a new widget system that uses JS prototypes, which I should have done from the beginning
  1171. 2015-12-10 15:56:35     n-tech  and I'm integrating options directly into the widgets now
  1172. 2015-12-10 15:56:39     n-tech  http://i.imgur.com/NSbrqJm.png
  1173. 2015-12-10 15:56:51     copypaste       yeah did you get my message about a development guide?
  1174. 2015-12-10 15:56:54     copypaste       it doesn't have to be super verbose
  1175. 2015-12-10 15:57:09     copypaste       i just don't want to break your vision
  1176. 2015-12-10 15:57:32     copypaste       oh cool
  1177. 2015-12-10 15:57:34     n-tech  I'll write the dev guide when I have a very firm understanding of what best practices should be, my recent work is a big step forward
  1178. 2015-12-10 15:57:37     copypaste       this is like our Options class
  1179. 2015-12-10 15:57:45     copypaste       except better
  1180. 2015-12-10 15:58:03     copypaste       sure thing
  1181. 2015-12-10 15:58:16     copypaste       you ready for japan?
  1182. 2015-12-10 15:58:24     copypaste       bought your exiting flight to HK/Macau?
  1183. 2015-12-10 15:58:26     n-tech  I wish I was thinner, I'm going to be the fattest guy on the island
  1184. 2015-12-10 15:58:35     n-tech  also i call the seat next to yours =w=
  1185. 2015-12-10 15:58:37     n-tech  infinite legroom
  1186. 2015-12-10 15:58:39     copypaste       and i wish i was taller and not a cripple
  1187. 2015-12-10 15:58:44     copypaste       shouganai
  1188. 2015-12-10 15:58:47     copypaste       ( ¬‿¬)
  1189. 2015-12-10 15:59:04     n-tech  what's that mean? it sounds like shikata ga nai
  1190. 2015-12-10 15:59:08     copypaste       yes
  1191. 2015-12-10 15:59:08     n-tech  so like
  1192. 2015-12-10 15:59:10     n-tech  it wont work
  1193. 2015-12-10 15:59:11     n-tech  ye
  1194. 2015-12-10 15:59:12     copypaste       it's an abbreviated form
  1195. 2015-12-10 15:59:16     copypaste       slang form
  1196. 2015-12-10 15:59:17     copypaste       t. anime pro
  1197. 2015-12-10 15:59:18     n-tech  o
  1198. 2015-12-10 15:59:23     n-tech  i like that phrase
  1199. 2015-12-10 15:59:31     copypaste       "it is what it is"
  1200. 2015-12-10 15:59:32     n-tech  one time the girl got mad at me
  1201. 2015-12-10 15:59:33     n-tech  and said
  1202. 2015-12-10 15:59:33     copypaste       japanese version
  1203. 2015-12-10 15:59:40     n-tech  you only like that phrase because you're complacent and lazy
  1204. 2015-12-10 15:59:42     n-tech  and i was like
  1205. 2015-12-10 15:59:45     n-tech  it can't be helped
  1206. 2015-12-10 15:59:53     copypaste       kek
  1207. 2015-12-10 16:01:06     copypaste       complacence isn't always a bad thing
  1208. 2015-12-10 19:04:43     n-tech  https://github.com/infinity-next/infinity-next/issues/189
  1209. 2015-12-10 19:04:55     n-tech  another guy who is raising weird fucking issues that are feature requests
  1210. 2015-12-10 19:05:14     n-tech  he didn't even supply a link to the imageboard he's referring to
  1211. 2015-12-10 19:05:18     n-tech  =3=
  1212. 2015-12-10 19:05:28     copypaste       i know what he's talking about
  1213. 2015-12-10 19:05:31     n-tech  me too
  1214. 2015-12-10 19:05:32     n-tech  lol
  1215. 2015-12-10 19:05:35     n-tech  it's a socket thing
  1216. 2015-12-10 19:05:36     copypaste       https://doushio.com/moe/
  1217. 2015-12-10 19:05:37     copypaste       yeh
  1218. 2015-12-10 19:05:39     n-tech  it's a nice gimmick but it's impractical
  1219. 2015-12-10 19:05:47     copypaste       i don't like it at all
  1220. 2015-12-10 19:05:52     copypaste       reminds me too much of google wave
  1221. 2015-12-10 19:05:56     copypaste       it's like someone is over your shoulder
  1222. 2015-12-10 19:06:01     copypaste       it streams every keypress
  1223. 2015-12-10 19:06:03     copypaste       POS IB
  1224. 2015-12-10 19:06:08     n-tech  It's very frustrating to not be able to correct mistakes
  1225. 2015-12-10 19:06:11     n-tech  that was the most frustrating aspect
  1226. 2015-12-10 19:06:22     n-tech  like often times you want to reshape entire paragraphs
  1227. 2015-12-10 19:06:29     n-tech  but you can't do that when every other word gets committed
  1228. 2015-12-10 19:07:44     copypaste       yeah
  1229. 2015-12-10 19:07:54     copypaste       i read that many sites like facebook track every keypress
  1230. 2015-12-10 19:07:59     copypaste       but they don't relay it to users
  1231. 2015-12-10 19:08:02     n-tech  every keypress, every click
  1232. 2015-12-10 19:08:02     copypaste       they just save it
  1233. 2015-12-10 19:08:05     n-tech  yea
  1234. 2015-12-10 19:08:08     copypaste       "posts this user typed but didn't submit"
  1235. 2015-12-10 19:08:10     n-tech  they want to know what the user is doing at all times
  1236. 2015-12-10 19:08:12     copypaste       creepy
  1237. 2015-12-10 19:08:18     copypaste       i type all my FB posts into vim first
  1238. 2015-12-10 19:08:19     copypaste       ( ≖‿≖)
  1239. 2015-12-10 19:08:20     n-tech  they record uh
  1240. 2015-12-10 19:08:21     n-tech  like
  1241. 2015-12-10 19:08:23     n-tech  everything
  1242. 2015-12-10 19:08:23     copypaste       fuck them
  1243. 2015-12-10 19:08:26     n-tech  your mouse movements
  1244. 2015-12-10 19:08:28     n-tech  key presses
  1245. 2015-12-10 19:08:31     n-tech  what you hover over but don't click
  1246. 2015-12-10 19:08:39     n-tech  they record it all into a user track stack and send it home
  1247. 2015-12-10 19:08:42     n-tech  for data purposes
  1248. 2015-12-10 19:09:07     n-tech  like i'm sure they have some algorithm to detect advertisement interest
  1249. 2015-12-10 19:09:13     n-tech  if a mouse hovers over an ad but doesn't click
  1250. 2015-12-10 19:09:20     n-tech  how much time a window stays scrolled with an ad in sight
  1251. 2015-12-10 19:09:26     n-tech  whereas some people scroll past ads more quickly
  1252. 2015-12-10 19:09:27     n-tech  shit like that
  1253. 2015-12-10 19:09:34     copypaste       yeah
  1254. 2015-12-10 19:09:39     copypaste       but i block ads on FB obviously
  1255. 2015-12-10 19:09:48     n-tech  that's recorded too :^)
  1256. 2015-12-10 19:09:50     n-tech  are the ads visible?
  1257. 2015-12-10 19:09:51     copypaste       lmao
  1258. 2015-12-10 19:09:53     copypaste       no
  1259. 2015-12-10 19:10:01     n-tech  no i mean
  1260. 2015-12-10 19:10:06     copypaste       unlike ad "blockers" on chrome which just hide the objects
  1261. 2015-12-10 19:10:07     n-tech  is the dom element for the ad visible from a js standpoint
  1262. 2015-12-10 19:10:09     copypaste       firefox is a proper browser
  1263. 2015-12-10 19:10:14     copypaste       so it doesn't even send a request
  1264. 2015-12-10 19:10:15     copypaste       ( ≖‿≖)
  1265. 2015-12-10 19:10:21     n-tech  yeah but the js can still detect that ...
  1266. 2015-12-10 19:10:29     copypaste       yes, they know it's blocked
  1267. 2015-12-10 19:10:34     copypaste       but a request is never made to any ad server
  1268. 2015-12-10 19:10:42     copypaste       that's better than blocking it but still making the request
  1269. 2015-12-10 19:10:45     n-tech  facebook is an ad server
  1270. 2015-12-10 19:10:54     n-tech  and Chrome doesn't send requests just fyi
  1271. 2015-12-10 19:10:55     copypaste       it applies more to other istes
  1272. 2015-12-10 19:10:56     copypaste       than facebook
  1273. 2015-12-10 19:11:00     copypaste       like blogs with doubleclick ads
  1274. 2015-12-10 19:11:01     n-tech  you can see it on the network tab
  1275. 2015-12-10 19:11:06     copypaste       it used to
  1276. 2015-12-10 19:11:12     n-tech  "(REQUEST BLOCKED ERR::CLIENT_REFUSED)
  1277. 2015-12-10 19:11:14     n-tech  or something
  1278. 2015-12-10 19:11:18     copypaste       cool
  1279. 2015-12-10 19:11:27     copypaste       i guess they fixed it since it was just a common talking point
  1280. 2015-12-10 19:11:31     copypaste       among the anti-webkit zealots
  1281. 2015-12-10 19:11:32     copypaste       like me
  1282. 2015-12-10 19:11:33     copypaste       :%)
  1283. 2015-12-10 19:11:35     n-tech  ye
  1284. 2015-12-10 19:11:43     n-tech  i heard vivaldi doesn't use presto anymore
  1285. 2015-12-10 19:11:45     n-tech  RIPPERONI third party
  1286. 2015-12-10 19:12:22     copypaste       not surprising to me
  1287. 2015-12-10 19:12:29     copypaste       Presto had a LOT of catching up to do
  1288. 2015-12-10 19:12:38     copypaste       i don't even think it has a basic canvas implemenation
  1289. 2015-12-10 19:12:44     copypaste       it was abandoned years ago
  1290. 2015-12-10 19:12:48     copypaste       you know how quickly the web changes
  1291. 2015-12-10 19:14:07     n-tech  I think faggetttss is a bad board owner.
  1292. 2015-12-10 19:14:14     copypaste        y?
  1293. 2015-12-10 19:14:25     copypaste       because he doesn't censor people supporting censorship?
  1294. 2015-12-10 19:14:28     n-tech  He stickies content that is pro-Trump so his board is essentially one big political agenda that he controls
  1295. 2015-12-10 19:14:33     copypaste       oh
  1296. 2015-12-10 19:14:41     n-tech  and be adding user IDs and encouaging people to block people
  1297. 2015-12-10 19:14:44     copypaste       that's a common complaint of /pol/
  1298. 2015-12-10 19:14:47     n-tech  it's impossible to have moderate discourse
  1299. 2015-12-10 19:14:53     n-tech  people just block you and cry shill
  1300. 2015-12-10 19:14:53     n-tech  (1)
  1301. 2015-12-10 19:14:55     n-tech  it's very gross
  1302. 2015-12-10 19:14:58     n-tech  this board is poorly managed
  1303. 2015-12-10 19:14:58     copypaste       it's [partly] why i made /n/
  1304. 2015-12-10 19:15:14     n-tech  it's literally a right-wing safe space
  1305. 2015-12-10 19:15:20     n-tech  you can control who is allowed to talk to you like on Tumblr
  1306. 2015-12-10 19:15:21     copypaste       yeah well
  1307. 2015-12-10 19:15:24     n-tech  This is not what an image board should be
  1308. 2015-12-10 19:15:31     copypaste       4chan is the same
  1309. 2015-12-10 19:15:35     copypaste       you can't just change all their minds
  1310. 2015-12-10 19:15:36     n-tech  4chan is shit
  1311. 2015-12-10 19:15:41     copypaste       if i go and try to change it
  1312. 2015-12-10 19:15:45     copypaste       "omg u r breaking board owner rights"
  1313. 2015-12-10 19:15:51     copypaste       "omg u r a shill"
  1314. 2015-12-10 19:15:56     copypaste       "omg u r destroying /pol/"
  1315. 2015-12-10 19:15:57     copypaste       etc
  1316. 2015-12-10 19:16:22     copypaste       this can't be helped, definitely
  1317. 2015-12-10 19:16:24     n-tech  yeah I know
  1318. 2015-12-10 19:16:41     copypaste       /n/ is a good counterbalance
  1319. 2015-12-10 19:16:46     copypaste       it's barely modded at all, no IDs, and so on
  1320. 2015-12-10 19:16:50     copypaste       no stickies either
  1321. 2015-12-10 19:16:55     copypaste       other than things relating to metea topics
  1322. 2015-12-10 19:17:08     copypaste       0sugar runs it with me
  1323. 2015-12-10 19:17:15     n-tech  If I was starting over I would have a 4 character board uri requirement and personally reserve all 4chan namesakes.
  1324. 2015-12-10 19:17:24     copypaste       yeah yeah
  1325. 2015-12-10 19:17:25     copypaste       same
  1326. 2015-12-10 19:17:26     n-tech  Any boards I'd run would try to create a consistent, neutral user environment.
  1327. 2015-12-10 19:17:50     copypaste       http://8ch.net/n/res/227453.html
  1328. 2015-12-10 19:17:55     copypaste       let's buy this in japan
  1329. 2015-12-10 19:19:21     n-tech  lol, i'd eat them all in one sitting
  1330. 2015-12-10 19:20:13     copypaste       lol this video
  1331. 2015-12-10 19:20:15     copypaste       https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7Z2O9Nwt6c
  1332. 2015-12-10 19:20:21     copypaste       this guy is such a self hating autist rofl
  1333. 2015-12-10 19:23:19     n-tech  it's true though, Japan is extremely xenophobic
  1334. 2015-12-10 19:23:23     n-tech  there's no reason to live there
  1335. 2015-12-10 19:23:31     copypaste       yet he's lived there for 10 years
  1336. 2015-12-10 19:23:34     n-tech  unless you're like a total asshole like me who doesn't care
  1337. 2015-12-10 19:23:35     n-tech  15
  1338. 2015-12-10 19:23:35     copypaste       i agree, it sucks
  1339. 2015-12-10 19:23:37     n-tech  his job's there
  1340. 2015-12-10 19:24:57     copypaste       so what?
  1341. 2015-12-10 19:25:00     copypaste       he can't get another job?
  1342. 2015-12-10 19:25:07     copypaste       is he some kind of women's studies teacher?
  1343. 2015-12-10 19:25:10     copypaste       no career prospects?
  1344. 2015-12-10 19:25:44     n-tech  you work the same job for 15 years and changing that up is scary.
  1345. 2015-12-10 19:25:57     n-tech  not everyone is a socially defunct internet weirdo like us
  1346. 2015-12-10 19:26:05     n-tech  people get into routines and it's scary to stay doing the same thing
  1347. 2015-12-10 19:26:09     copypaste       that's true
  1348. 2015-12-10 19:26:12     n-tech  and it's scarier to leave it all for something else
  1349. 2015-12-10 19:26:20     n-tech  i mean put that into perspective
  1350. 2015-12-10 19:26:27     n-tech  when this guy got his job and moved to japan
  1351. 2015-12-10 19:26:29     n-tech  you were 5 or 6
  1352. 2015-12-10 19:26:39     n-tech  imagine doing the same thing since you were 5 or 6 and being asked to change
  1353. 2015-12-10 19:26:42     n-tech  like idk
  1354. 2015-12-10 19:26:47     n-tech  switching to windows
  1355. 2015-12-10 19:26:53     n-tech  even then you haven't been using linux for that long
  1356. 2015-12-10 19:27:22     copypaste       the VS toolchain can't be that hard to learn
  1357. 2015-12-10 19:27:29     copypaste       i wouldn't like to change to thata
  1358. 2015-12-10 19:27:33     copypaste       but i could probably do it
  1359. 2015-12-10 19:27:49     copypaste       i mean, braindead indians can do it
  1360. 2015-12-10 19:42:25     n-tech  I have all of /pol/ in a tizzy
  1361. 2015-12-10 19:42:35     n-tech  I made a thread saying Trump is pro-censorship and they're shitting their pants
  1362. 2015-12-10 19:42:56     n-tech  like they want to believe in the meme candidate so badly they are putting words in his mouth to justify his comments on censoring the Internet.
  1363. 2015-12-10 19:44:14     n-tech  I've really learned a lot about OOP JS today though.
  1364. 2015-12-10 19:44:28     n-tech  I think once I optimize my Post widget, the page will be much zippier.
  1365. 2015-12-10 19:48:56     n-tech  just
  1366. 2015-12-10 19:48:58     n-tech  mental fucking breakdown
  1367. 2015-12-10 19:49:03     copypaste       ?
  1368. 2015-12-10 19:49:07     n-tech  http://8ch.net/mod.php?/pol/res/4217745.html#4218479
  1369. 2015-12-10 19:49:14     n-tech  I keep repeating the same thing and they keep apologizing for trump
  1370. 2015-12-10 19:49:17     n-tech  in all caps and red letters
  1371. 2015-12-10 19:49:21     n-tech  calling me every name possible
  1372. 2015-12-10 19:49:29     n-tech  because I refuse to say that Trump's stance on Internet censorship is acceptable
  1373. 2015-12-10 19:49:42     n-tech  Oh I'm a communist I'm a sanders shill I'm paid-per-post I'm not America
  1374. 2015-12-10 19:49:45     n-tech  american*
  1375. 2015-12-10 19:49:49     n-tech  anything, absolutely anything they can think of
  1376. 2015-12-10 19:49:57     n-tech  to justify me not supporting Trump because of his stance on Internet censorship
  1377. 2015-12-10 19:49:59     copypaste       wow this thread is long
  1378. 2015-12-10 19:50:01     n-tech  literally rewriting his comments to be
  1379. 2015-12-10 19:50:01     copypaste       so much ass hurt
  1380. 2015-12-10 19:50:02     copypaste       lol
  1381. 2015-12-10 19:50:19     n-tech  "maybe closing [SYRIA'S AND ISIS's] Internet up in some way!"
  1382. 2015-12-10 19:50:32     n-tech  like just completely fabricating what was said
  1383. 2015-12-10 19:50:53     copypaste       that wouldn't help
  1384. 2015-12-10 19:51:11     copypaste       most of the isis supoprters are outside of those countries
  1385. 2015-12-10 19:51:19     copypaste       those countries are such shitholes only the top leaders have internet
  1386. 2015-12-10 21:02:55     n-tech  http://beta.8ch.net/next/file/8f00cc6d0057a357080f24218f271073/sawl.png
  1387. 2015-12-10 21:04:13     n-tech  this is all extraordinarily dynamic btw
  1388. 2015-12-10 21:04:20     n-tech  it should be incredibly simple to add your own widgets that plug into this menu
  1389. 2015-12-10 21:06:58     n-tech  https://github.com/infinity-next/infinity-next/blob/master/public/static/js/app/widgets/lazyimg.widget.js
  1390. 2015-12-10 21:07:01     n-tech  my lazy image widget
  1391. 2015-12-10 21:24:01     copypaste       how to add to the post form?
  1392. 2015-12-10 21:24:21     copypaste       i want to add an openable oekaki item
  1393. 2015-12-10 21:24:45     n-tech  please work on important things first
  1394. 2015-12-10 21:24:51     copypaste       like ?
  1395. 2015-12-10 21:24:56     n-tech  I need Tor set up, I need secure tripcodes
  1396. 2015-12-10 21:24:59     n-tech  I need anything but oekaki
  1397. 2015-12-10 21:25:00     copypaste       ok
  1398. 2015-12-10 21:25:02     copypaste       lol
  1399. 2015-12-10 21:25:05     copypaste       tor is easy
  1400. 2015-12-10 21:25:17     copypaste       do you just want me to set up a hidden service for the beta?
  1401. 2015-12-10 21:25:26     copypaste       and you can match against its IP and mark those users `Unaccountable'?
  1402. 2015-12-10 21:25:37     copypaste       i can also send a header and so on
  1403. 2015-12-10 21:25:40     n-tech  yes, set up a hidden service pointing to index-tor.php in /public/
  1404. 2015-12-10 21:25:49     n-tech  you should get a 200 page with the word "Tor."
  1405. 2015-12-10 21:26:09     copypaste       how do i point to that
  1406. 2015-12-10 21:26:13     n-tech  I have not had any chance to set it up because __uguu__ told me taht setting up tor was a pain in the ass and I was in other stuff
  1407. 2015-12-10 21:26:17     copypaste       8chan's tor hidden service is just a proxy of hte main site
  1408. 2015-12-10 21:26:30     copypaste       i proxy_pass its nginx load balancer i mean
  1409. 2015-12-10 21:26:37     n-tech  can't you set up nginx so that asdakjdaskdjasldas.onion goes to a different page?
  1410. 2015-12-10 21:26:47     n-tech  ok
  1411. 2015-12-10 21:26:49     n-tech  don't do that then
  1412. 2015-12-10 21:26:51     copypaste       as i said, i usually just use proxy_pass
  1413. 2015-12-10 21:27:03     copypaste       anything else requires the Tor HS to be in the datacenter
  1414. 2015-12-10 21:27:04     n-tech  apply a different CGI header
  1415. 2015-12-10 21:27:04     n-tech  LARAVEL_TOR, TRUE
  1416. 2015-12-10 21:27:04     n-tech  or something
  1417. 2015-12-10 21:27:06     copypaste       which jim doesn't allow
  1418. 2015-12-10 21:27:07     copypaste       OK
  1419. 2015-12-10 21:27:17     copypaste       i send X-Tor: true
  1420. 2015-12-10 21:27:21     copypaste       it's trivial to cahnge that
  1421. 2015-12-10 21:27:35     n-tech  That'll work, I just need something like that that cannot be feigned through the request headers
  1422. 2015-12-10 21:27:47     copypaste       well who would fake being tor?
  1423. 2015-12-10 21:27:53     copypaste       it takes away privileges, not gives
  1424. 2015-12-10 21:28:03     copypaste       8chan lets you fake it if you want, i just see no reason why anyone would bother
  1425. 2015-12-10 21:28:07     n-tech  yeah good point
  1426. 2015-12-10 21:28:13     n-tech  okay that's fine then
  1427. 2015-12-10 21:28:32     copypaste       okie dokie, i'll do it now
  1428. 2015-12-10 21:28:37     copypaste       do you have the tor browser?
  1429. 2015-12-10 21:28:43     copypaste       that way you can see it working
  1430. 2015-12-10 21:28:44     n-tech  yea
  1431. 2015-12-10 21:28:47     copypaste       gr8
  1432. 2015-12-10 21:28:52     copypaste       let's see if i can find the tor hs lgoin, lol
  1433. 2015-12-10 21:28:57     copypaste       i rarely have to log into it
  1434. 2015-12-10 21:28:59     copypaste       it runs itself
  1435. 2015-12-10 21:30:23     n-tech  Someone is now flooding my thread because I've upset them
  1436. 2015-12-10 21:30:31     n-tech  #safespace
  1437. 2015-12-10 21:30:52     copypaste       lol
  1438. 2015-12-10 21:31:09     copypaste       you know i agree with you, but i also try to preserve internal harmony
  1439. 2015-12-10 21:31:13     copypaste       8chan has its own jsut like china
  1440. 2015-12-10 21:32:05     n-tech  I think most people agree with me, I do have a really hard time knowing if people are trolling though
  1441. 2015-12-10 21:32:12     n-tech  I just instinctively assume people are retarded
  1442. 2015-12-10 21:32:15     copypaste       if you want to blame someone, blame Doorways, the original /pol/ BO
  1443. 2015-12-10 21:32:18     copypaste       he set the tone
  1444. 2015-12-10 21:32:24     copypaste       faggetts is just following the leader
  1445. 2015-12-10 21:32:57     n-tech  muslim proof windows ~~
  1446. 2015-12-10 21:34:58     copypaste       https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0ODl2xYXEw
  1447. 2015-12-10 21:51:09     copypaste       ever seen that show before
  1448. 2015-12-10 21:55:58     n-tech  nope
  1449. 2015-12-10 21:56:09     copypaste       it's really old
  1450. 2015-12-10 21:56:12     copypaste       "Wonder Showzen"
  1451. 2015-12-10 21:56:23     copypaste       ran for 2 seasons on MTV2 and was pulled off the air
  1452. 2015-12-10 21:56:45     copypaste       it's a cult classic
  1453. 2015-12-11 09:27:35     n-tech  yo dude when you wake up
  1454. 2015-12-11 09:27:46     n-tech  please please please get mochi to find my PLDT papers in the black notebook
  1455. 2015-12-11 09:27:49     n-tech  and please get the Tor node up
  1456. 2015-12-11 09:27:57     n-tech  i'm going out to the store, brb
  1457. 2015-12-11 12:16:28     copypaste       ok she's going to deliver them to you today
  1458. 2015-12-11 12:16:36     n-tech  thanks
  1459. 2015-12-11 12:52:01     n-tech  thanks
  1460. 2015-12-11 22:28:42     copypaste       https://github.com/Guad/GTACoop/commit/af5b4964a8aae654dfd194f1c347d301ebb8dba0#commitcomment-14926152
  1461. 2015-12-11 22:28:47     copypaste       i'm going to have an aneurysm
  1462. 2015-12-11 22:28:55     copypaste       why can't i talk to people anymore
  1463. 2015-12-11 22:29:01     copypaste       my opinions are so outside the accepted range
  1464. 2015-12-11 22:32:01     copypaste       i should have never opened this shitty server
  1465. 2015-12-11 22:32:10     copypaste       i'm defending all the russian and chinese pirates who use my server
  1466. 2015-12-11 22:32:18     copypaste       from white guilt
  1467. 2015-12-11 22:36:08     n-tech  there i backed u up
  1468. 2015-12-11 22:36:27     copypaste       lol
  1469. 2015-12-11 22:36:55     copypaste       ok so the full story is i bought this game 2 years ago on ps3, i downloaded it because two years later it's still the same price for PC with no changes
  1470. 2015-12-11 22:37:05     copypaste       while fucking around with all the mods i found this one
  1471. 2015-12-11 22:37:08     copypaste       i found no server in asia
  1472. 2015-12-11 22:37:15     copypaste       the server was really lightweight so i put one on my tokyo VPS
  1473. 2015-12-11 22:37:24     copypaste       but dealing with the "community", dear lord
  1474. 2015-12-11 22:37:38     copypaste       white kids who think they're hot shit because their mommy gave them $60 to buy GTA
  1475. 2015-12-11 22:37:43     n-tech  what game is it
  1476. 2015-12-11 22:37:44     n-tech  gta5?
  1477. 2015-12-11 22:37:46     copypaste       yea
  1478. 2015-12-11 22:37:51     n-tech  lol
  1479. 2015-12-11 22:37:52     copypaste       when i was younger NO third party mod author would do this shit
  1480. 2015-12-11 22:37:53     n-tech  gta5's mp is garbage
  1481. 2015-12-11 22:37:59     copypaste       yeah, so we're making our own
  1482. 2015-12-11 22:38:00     copypaste       it's fun
  1483. 2015-12-11 22:38:01     n-tech  which is why people wrote their own
  1484. 2015-12-11 22:38:03     n-tech  ye
  1485. 2015-12-11 22:38:04     copypaste       but this asshole wants to ruin everything
  1486. 2015-12-11 22:38:05     n-tech  also on slack
  1487. 2015-12-11 22:38:10     n-tech  http://i.imgur.com/Kqj9b3H.png
  1488. 2015-12-11 22:38:20     n-tech  look at how it pimps out my links
  1489. 2015-12-11 22:38:29     copypaste       i use slack i know
  1490. 2015-12-11 22:38:46     n-tech  ye ye but MY links
  1491. 2015-12-11 22:38:47     n-tech  are extra pimped
  1492. 2015-12-11 22:38:51     n-tech  because of the heart and eggplant
  1493. 2015-12-11 22:38:54     copypaste       haha
  1494. 2015-12-11 22:38:56     n-tech  i do like that it brings over the eggplant too
  1495. 2015-12-11 22:39:08     copypaste       fucking social club name
  1496. 2015-12-11 22:39:15     copypaste       if he continues to push this i will wriet a quick script to change it
  1497. 2015-12-11 22:39:20     n-tech  can't you fork it and mode it out?
  1498. 2015-12-11 22:39:23     copypaste       i can
  1499. 2015-12-11 22:39:34     n-tech  you should rename it like
  1500. 2015-12-11 22:39:39     copypaste       my server has lots of users lol
  1501. 2015-12-11 22:39:42     copypaste       since it has low ping to asia
  1502. 2015-12-11 22:39:48     copypaste       tons of chinese use it
  1503. 2015-12-11 22:39:55     copypaste       i can't read anything and i rarely even play it
  1504. 2015-12-11 22:39:59     copypaste       but it's nice to be part of something
  1505. 2015-12-11 22:40:00     copypaste       ( ≖‿≖)
  1506. 2015-12-11 22:40:08     n-tech  ctrlcctrlv/gtacooparr "GTA Co-Op, Arr"
  1507. 2015-12-11 22:40:16     copypaste       hahaha
  1508. 2015-12-11 22:40:21     copypaste       well
  1509. 2015-12-11 22:40:25     copypaste       the main guy, guad
  1510. 2015-12-11 22:40:27     copypaste       agrees with me
  1511. 2015-12-11 22:40:36     copypaste       i'm just berating this guy further so guad sees he's an idiot
  1512. 2015-12-11 22:40:39     copypaste       since he's the co-developer
  1513. 2015-12-11 22:40:46     copypaste       if i can get him to fall from grace
  1514. 2015-12-11 22:40:50     copypaste       then it's safe forever
  1515. 2015-12-11 22:40:50     copypaste       arr
  1516. 2015-12-11 22:41:09     n-tech  arr its a mutiny
  1517. 2015-12-11 22:41:37     copypaste       p much
  1518. 2015-12-11 22:42:40     copypaste       i like how he said he thought i was 8
  1519. 2015-12-11 22:42:42     copypaste       8, really?
  1520. 2015-12-11 22:42:45     copypaste       do i write that poorly?
  1521. 2015-12-11 22:42:54     copypaste       i could dig 13 or 15
  1522. 2015-12-11 22:42:58     copypaste       but 8?
  1523. 2015-12-11 22:43:24     n-tech  no, teenagers become indignant and assume people are young for not wanting to fork out money for things they like
  1524. 2015-12-11 22:43:31     n-tech  Rockstar is a multi-billion dollar gaming company
  1525. 2015-12-11 22:43:35     n-tech  they do not need that extra money
  1526. 2015-12-11 22:43:39     n-tech  they are not hurting
  1527. 2015-12-11 22:43:47     copypaste       the thing is, the original MP mods
  1528. 2015-12-11 22:43:49     copypaste       GTA:MP and FiveM
  1529. 2015-12-11 22:43:52     copypaste       all added anti-piracy
  1530. 2015-12-11 22:43:57     copypaste       and taketwo still send them takedowns
  1531. 2015-12-11 22:44:02     copypaste       cease and dessist and so on
  1532. 2015-12-11 22:44:11     copypaste       FiveM woldn't even let you play unless you had GTA V in your social club account
  1533. 2015-12-11 22:44:19     copypaste       you had to log into the FM client and it would check your inventory
  1534. 2015-12-11 22:44:30     copypaste       yet TT didn't want any competition to GTA:O
  1535. 2015-12-11 22:44:37     n-tech  Brands  2K Games
  1536. 2015-12-11 22:44:38     n-tech  Rockstar Games
  1537. 2015-12-11 22:44:38     n-tech  Revenue Increase US$ 2.351 billion (2013)[1]
  1538. 2015-12-11 22:44:40     n-tech  pls pay $60
  1539. 2015-12-11 22:44:46     copypaste       then this moron tells me that we should keep playing nice with them
  1540. 2015-12-11 22:44:48     copypaste       fucking why
  1541. 2015-12-11 22:44:49     copypaste       rain fire
  1542. 2015-12-11 22:44:57     copypaste       guad has pretty much done that with his open source mod
  1543. 2015-12-11 22:45:01     copypaste       i'm just making sure he styas the course
  1544. 2015-12-11 22:45:14     n-tech  gtao is shit
  1545. 2015-12-11 22:45:22     copypaste       i know dude, i played it for like a month in 2013
  1546. 2015-12-11 22:45:23     copypaste       lol
  1547. 2015-12-11 22:45:25     n-tech  so many hackers and long ass loading times for everything
  1548. 2015-12-11 22:45:30     n-tech  every time i pop into a game
  1549. 2015-12-11 22:45:33     copypaste       people spawning fucking jetplanes
  1550. 2015-12-11 22:45:37     copypaste       in the middle of the road
  1551. 2015-12-11 22:45:41     n-tech  the entire city gets carpet bombed like im in fucking bagdahd
  1552. 2015-12-11 22:45:47     copypaste       or
  1553. 2015-12-11 22:45:51     copypaste       pistols shooting rockets
  1554. 2015-12-11 22:45:54     copypaste       just weird shit
  1555. 2015-12-11 22:46:02     n-tech  i wait 5 minutes for the game to load
  1556. 2015-12-11 22:46:06     n-tech  go to the heist room
  1557. 2015-12-11 22:46:10     n-tech  wait 10 minutes for a match make
  1558. 2015-12-11 22:46:15     n-tech  wait 5 minutes for the planning
  1559. 2015-12-11 22:46:16     n-tech  someone bails
  1560. 2015-12-11 22:46:17     copypaste       of course that still happens on our servers, but it's ok since we have godmode included and are working on other game modes
  1561. 2015-12-11 22:46:18     n-tech  start over
  1562. 2015-12-11 22:46:19     n-tech  5 minute wait
  1563. 2015-12-11 22:46:21     n-tech  10 minute wait
  1564. 2015-12-11 22:46:22     n-tech  5 minute wait
  1565. 2015-12-11 22:46:25     n-tech  get into the mission
  1566. 2015-12-11 22:46:26     n-tech  someone dies
  1567. 2015-12-11 22:46:28     copypaste       i think that we could make something fun with GTACoop
  1568. 2015-12-11 22:46:29     n-tech  instant mission termination
  1569. 2015-12-11 22:46:30     n-tech  someone leaves
  1570. 2015-12-11 22:46:32     n-tech  it's cancer
  1571. 2015-12-11 22:46:32     copypaste       if faggots stop fagging the place up
  1572. 2015-12-11 22:46:51     n-tech  i had prepurchased the game so i had $1m
  1573. 2015-12-11 22:46:53     n-tech  in mp
  1574. 2015-12-11 22:46:59     n-tech  i bought a bulletproof car
  1575. 2015-12-11 22:47:05     n-tech  which is literally impossible to destroy with small arms
  1576. 2015-12-11 22:47:09     n-tech  i had more fun driving around with 5 stars
  1577. 2015-12-11 22:47:15     n-tech  being impossible to kill and just murdering cops
  1578. 2015-12-11 22:47:20     n-tech  as i drove around in a circle for 4 hours
  1579. 2015-12-11 22:47:25     n-tech  than i did in the big missions
  1580. 2015-12-11 22:52:47     copypaste       lol
  1581. 2015-12-11 22:52:48     copypaste       he's still going
  1582. 2015-12-11 22:52:50     copypaste       he replied, i replied
  1583. 2015-12-11 22:52:55     copypaste       this is turning into an all out flame war
  1584. 2015-12-11 22:54:12     copypaste       #CrackedLivesMatter
  1585. 2015-12-11 22:54:59     copypaste       RLD = Reloaded crack group
  1586. 2015-12-11 22:55:01     copypaste       3dmgame same
  1587. 2015-12-11 22:55:16     copypaste       as a way to sign their release they set your social club name to that while you're playing
  1588. 2015-12-11 22:55:19     copypaste       no big deal really
  1589. 2015-12-11 22:55:23     copypaste       except it was exposed to the mod
  1590. 2015-12-11 22:55:27     copypaste       and this jackass wants to block it
  1591. 2015-12-11 22:55:56     copypaste       this is no exagerration, i just grepped the logs and 452/489 logins matched "RLD!" or "3dmgame" (case insensitive)
  1592. 2015-12-11 22:56:17     n-tech  lol
  1593. 2015-12-11 22:56:31     copypaste       this guy is going chad whitacre levels of stupid
  1594. 2015-12-11 22:56:39     copypaste       "let's ban 80% of users since i don't like how they're using my vision"
  1595. 2015-12-11 22:56:46     copypaste       and he really did that
  1596. 2015-12-11 22:56:47     copypaste       lol
  1597. 2015-12-11 22:56:56     copypaste       (chad whitacre = ceo of gratipay)
  1598. 2015-12-11 23:42:05     copypaste       New player connected: poop (ayylmao)
  1599. 2015-12-11 23:42:07     copypaste       lol
  1600. 2015-12-11 23:42:10     copypaste       figured out how to fuck with it
  1601. 2015-12-11 23:42:11     copypaste       -already-
  1602. 2015-12-11 23:42:15     copypaste       it used to be
  1603. 2015-12-11 23:42:28     copypaste       New player connected: RLD! (ayylmao)
  1604. 2015-12-12 15:35:38     n-tech  https://beta.8ch.net/next/thread/4535
  1605. 2015-12-13 08:38:02     <<      n-tech ([email protected]) has quit (Server closed connection)
  1606. 2015-12-13 08:40:10     >>      n-tech ([email protected]:2E383ACB:9A9D32F5:IP) is back on server
  1607. 2015-12-13 18:30:17     copypaste       hey man cna i come over tomorrow?
  1608. 2015-12-13 18:30:23     copypaste       we got some stuff we have to talk about, nothing big
  1609. 2015-12-13 18:30:30     copypaste       i have to give you a copy of your plane ticket
  1610. 2015-12-13 18:30:33     n-tech  what kind of stuff
  1611. 2015-12-13 18:30:57     copypaste       well, i just want you to know that you're going to have to help me in the airport
  1612. 2015-12-13 18:31:00     copypaste       mochi doesn't have her passport
  1613. 2015-12-13 18:31:39     copypaste       i been trying over a year to get it but there keeps coming up problems
  1614. 2015-12-13 18:31:42     copypaste       you know how this country is
  1615. 2015-12-13 18:32:47     n-tech  that's going to be awkward. there's a total of three flights
  1616. 2015-12-13 18:32:51     n-tech  Are you going to be able to manage yourself most of the time?
  1617. 2015-12-13 18:33:58     copypaste       how did you know how many flights there are
  1618. 2015-12-13 18:34:05     copypaste       i guess you already got the ticket and i don't have to do anything
  1619. 2015-12-13 18:34:17     n-tech  no.. we're going to fly across the entire country
  1620. 2015-12-13 18:34:22     n-tech  and then i imagine we're heading back
  1621. 2015-12-13 18:34:23     n-tech  1 + 1 + 1
  1622. 2015-12-13 18:34:29     copypaste       oh haha i thought you meant layovers
  1623. 2015-12-13 18:34:38     copypaste       yes i can manage myself, just tranferring and carrying bags
  1624. 2015-12-13 18:34:39     n-tech  .. we have 3 layovers?
  1625. 2015-12-13 18:34:47     copypaste       i think it's 2
  1626. 2015-12-13 18:34:50     copypaste       i have to double check
  1627. 2015-12-13 18:35:08     n-tech  how can there possibly be 2 layovers between manila and okinawa
  1628. 2015-12-13 18:35:20     copypaste       oh w8 there's only 1
  1629. 2015-12-13 18:36:13     copypaste       still waiting for slack to load
  1630. 2015-12-13 18:36:26     copypaste       i was in batangas the last 2 days so sorry if im airheaded
  1631. 2015-12-13 18:36:29     copypaste       i haven't slept
  1632. 2015-12-13 18:36:46     n-tech  batangas?
  1633. 2015-12-13 18:36:54     copypaste       it's 6 hours away
  1634. 2015-12-13 18:37:02     copypaste       it's the southernmost province in luzon
  1635. 2015-12-13 18:38:01     n-tech  is that where she's from? did you go there for the passport?
  1636. 2015-12-13 18:38:23     copypaste       lol
  1637. 2015-12-13 18:38:44     copypaste       no, i mean i tried with the passport six months ago, and they kept givng us new requirements and new appointments
  1638. 2015-12-13 18:38:57     copypaste       now we have all the documents minus the NBI clearance, and that appointment is in january
  1639. 2015-12-13 18:39:15     copypaste       so far we've gotten an SSS id, a philhealth card, a birth certificate
  1640. 2015-12-13 18:39:25     copypaste       this is the depths of bureaucracy
  1641. 2015-12-13 18:39:50     copypaste       i was in batangas for RQI's christmas party
  1642. 2015-12-13 18:40:06     n-tech  this is going to be incredibly awkward and it will be incredibly awkward repeatedly
  1643. 2015-12-13 18:40:15     copypaste       what is?
  1644. 2015-12-13 18:40:24     n-tech  having to carry you between the seat and the wheelchair
  1645. 2015-12-13 18:40:27     n-tech  that is what you're asking for right?
  1646. 2015-12-13 18:40:30     copypaste       lol, no silly
  1647. 2015-12-13 18:40:34     copypaste       the flight attendants do that
  1648. 2015-12-13 18:40:38     n-tech  wow really
  1649. 2015-12-13 18:40:46     n-tech  what do i need to know then
  1650. 2015-12-13 18:40:47     copypaste       all you have to do is carry my bags
  1651. 2015-12-13 18:40:54     n-tech  wew
  1652. 2015-12-13 18:41:03     n-tech  my life is instantly less anxiety ridden
  1653. 2015-12-13 18:41:07     copypaste       i've flown independently before
  1654. 2015-12-13 18:41:09     copypaste       three times
  1655. 2015-12-13 18:41:12     copypaste       don't worry about it
  1656. 2015-12-13 18:41:38     copypaste       you don't have to carry me, i'm not sure you're strong enough
  1657. 2015-12-13 18:41:44     copypaste       you don't exactly lift weights
  1658. 2015-12-13 18:42:09     n-tech  you weigh less than my laptop bag.
  1659. 2015-12-13 18:42:13     copypaste       tom and ron both have before
  1660. 2015-12-13 18:42:19     copypaste       i weigh 28 kilos actually
  1661. 2015-12-13 18:42:39     copypaste       ~62lb
  1662. 2015-12-13 18:43:04     n-tech  dunno why you think i'm completely withered
  1663. 2015-12-13 18:43:27     copypaste       ok well it would also be awkward
  1664. 2015-12-13 18:43:35     copypaste       thanks for letting me know you could save me from a burning building though
  1665. 2015-12-13 18:43:40     copypaste       now whether you would, is a different story
  1666. 2015-12-13 18:43:45     copypaste       but at least you could
  1667. 2015-12-13 18:43:46     copypaste       ( ¬‿¬)
  1668. 2015-12-13 18:44:24     n-tech  the merits of a government can entirely be summed up by how quickly you can procure a document
  1669. 2015-12-13 18:44:48     copypaste       this was partly mochi's fault
  1670. 2015-12-13 18:44:52     copypaste       she didn't even have her birth certificate
  1671. 2015-12-13 18:44:56     copypaste       we literally had to start from 0
  1672. 2015-12-13 18:45:19     copypaste       when i got my passport i had all the forms of ID and just needed the passport
  1673. 2015-12-13 18:45:30     copypaste       we're having to build up all the requirements to even apply for the passpor
  1674. 2015-12-13 18:45:31     copypaste       t
  1675. 2015-12-13 18:47:09     n-tech  "Appointments are necessary, and all agencies require proof of travel starting December 1, 2015. See detailed instructions for the agency where you wish to apply."
  1676. 2015-12-13 18:47:14     n-tech  I was looking at renewing US passports
  1677. 2015-12-13 18:47:21     n-tech  apparently you have to provide "proof of travel" now
  1678. 2015-12-13 18:47:24     n-tech  you can't just get a passport
  1679. 2015-12-13 18:47:25     n-tech  wtf
  1680. 2015-12-13 18:47:35     copypaste       what's proof of travel
  1681. 2015-12-13 18:47:40     n-tech  a ticket probably
  1682. 2015-12-13 18:47:48     copypaste       oh, that's interesting
  1683. 2015-12-13 18:47:55     copypaste       when i got mine i could just get it with no travel lol
  1684. 2015-12-13 18:48:12     n-tech  yeah same. that says they only require it now
  1685. 2015-12-13 18:48:14     n-tech  like 2 weeks ago
  1686. 2015-12-13 18:48:23     n-tech  2 weeks ago something changed and now their requirements are different
  1687. 2015-12-13 18:48:28     copypaste       ISIS?
  1688. 2015-12-13 18:48:46     copypaste       oh there's legislation in the US that if you have too much owed taxes they won't renew your passport
  1689. 2015-12-13 18:48:57     n-tech  I guess. Maybe if you walk in asking for a Passport so you can fly to Turkey and you're brown looking you get put on a list.
  1690. 2015-12-13 18:49:01     copypaste       i don't know if it's passed and part of US code
  1691. 2015-12-13 18:49:06     copypaste       or if it's just inc ongress
  1692. 2015-12-13 18:49:23     copypaste       http://www.wsj.com/articles/americans-pay-your-taxes-or-lose-your-passport-1447971424
  1693. 2015-12-13 18:59:16     n-tech  are... are we first class
  1694. 2015-12-13 19:00:29     copypaste       no
  1695. 2015-12-13 19:14:15     n-tech  when are we leaving
  1696. 2015-12-13 19:18:47     copypaste       takeoff is dec 21 at 9:45AM
  1697. 2015-12-13 19:19:29     copypaste       the layover is 4 hours in fukuoka
  1698. 2015-12-13 19:19:32     copypaste       these tickets suck dick
  1699. 2015-12-13 19:43:00     n-tech  lol. you get what you pay for
  1700. 2015-12-14 14:00:26     copypaste       let me know when i can come over
  1701. 2015-12-14 14:02:06     n-tech  I should probably come over instead
  1702. 2015-12-14 14:02:09     n-tech  i don't feel like cleaning up
  1703. 2015-12-14 14:03:32     copypaste       alright, come over at 3 then
  1704. 2015-12-14 14:03:38     copypaste       ill just be giving you ticket printouts i think
  1705. 2015-12-14 14:03:39     n-tech  kk
  1706. 2015-12-14 14:03:42     copypaste       unless there's anything else
  1707. 2015-12-14 14:18:37     copypaste       don't forget to book your flight "out of the country"
  1708. 2015-12-14 14:18:45     copypaste       within 21 days of your return on the 28th
  1709. 2015-12-14 14:18:58     copypaste       hong kong, macau, and so on; you know the drill
  1710. 2015-12-14 14:18:59     n-tech  ye im visiting ho chi minh again in january
  1711. 2015-12-14 14:19:03     copypaste       ok gr8
  1712. 2015-12-14 14:19:09     n-tech  also
  1713. 2015-12-14 14:19:11     n-tech  I have formally decided
  1714. 2015-12-14 14:19:15     n-tech  I like bitcoins more than banks
  1715. 2015-12-14 14:19:16     copypaste       i wouldn't mind really taking that ticket btw
  1716. 2015-12-14 14:19:22     n-tech  I have had nothing but trouble trying to get cash out of an ATM
  1717. 2015-12-14 14:19:32     n-tech  visting that pawn shop and getting money is stupid easy
  1718. 2015-12-14 14:19:37     copypaste       ye
  1719. 2015-12-14 14:19:38     copypaste       i came to that decision a long time ago
  1720. 2015-12-14 14:19:46     copypaste       i don't trust banks for anything
  1721. 2015-12-14 14:19:59     copypaste       what i would do in your situation
  1722. 2015-12-14 14:20:08     copypaste       is buy BTC using itbit/coinbase and your ACH numbers
  1723. 2015-12-14 14:20:14     copypaste       then transfer it here and sell
  1724. 2015-12-14 14:20:20     copypaste       that's the only way i move money out of the US
  1725. 2015-12-14 14:20:35     n-tech  I'm about to sell my 2btc I have and then move most of my money out of my accounts
  1726. 2015-12-14 14:20:37     n-tech  into btc
  1727. 2015-12-14 14:20:46     n-tech  but i wanna see if i can get below 400$/btc
  1728. 2015-12-14 14:20:52     n-tech  then again btc might be making a permanent recovery
  1729. 2015-12-14 14:21:01     n-tech  who knows
  1730. 2015-12-14 14:21:02     n-tech  it's spoopy
  1731. 2015-12-14 14:21:06     n-tech  that's the only downside to btc
  1732. 2015-12-14 14:21:12     n-tech  it's laissez faire or whatever
  1733. 2015-12-14 14:21:30     copypaste       whenever i do transfers like this i buy/sell as quickly as possible
  1734. 2015-12-14 14:21:35     copypaste       still i am someitmes affected by volatility
  1735. 2015-12-14 14:21:42     n-tech  ye
  1736. 2015-12-14 14:21:42     n-tech  also
  1737. 2015-12-14 14:21:43     copypaste       however i am also sometimes affected to the upside
  1738. 2015-12-14 14:21:46     copypaste       so it's a balance
  1739. 2015-12-14 14:21:51     copypaste       i don't try to time the market though
  1740. 2015-12-14 14:21:51     copypaste       lol
  1741. 2015-12-14 14:21:55     n-tech  i cashed out 0.75 btc for 15k PHP
  1742. 2015-12-14 14:22:01     n-tech  and they had an issue where they gave me the wrong receipt
  1743. 2015-12-14 14:22:05     n-tech  and i got a photo of their paper receipt
  1744. 2015-12-14 14:22:07     n-tech  and it made me laugh
  1745. 2015-12-14 14:22:10     copypaste       nice
  1746. 2015-12-14 14:22:12     n-tech  like it was painfully obvious at that point
  1747. 2015-12-14 14:22:21     n-tech  they run a little pinoy guy down with my money in hand
  1748. 2015-12-14 14:22:22     copypaste       if you have the cash who cares
  1749. 2015-12-14 14:22:24     n-tech  and buy a transaction right there
  1750. 2015-12-14 14:22:28     copypaste       lol
  1751. 2015-12-14 14:22:34     copypaste       oh yeah that's wht they do
  1752. 2015-12-14 14:22:36     n-tech  and then like
  1753. 2015-12-14 14:22:43     copypaste       they texted me when i did my 45k and i called the number that texted me
  1754. 2015-12-14 14:22:43     n-tech  they fill in the details and send me a nice paperless receipt
  1755. 2015-12-14 14:22:56     copypaste       and it was just some random worker
  1756. 2015-12-14 14:22:58     n-tech  ye i got a text too, the sender was wrong but so was the receipt #
  1757. 2015-12-14 14:22:59     n-tech  lol
  1758. 2015-12-14 14:23:01     copypaste       lol
  1759. 2015-12-14 14:23:04     n-tech  dude they all do that
  1760. 2015-12-14 14:23:10     copypaste       i was like "wait so i use your name and not coins.ph"
  1761. 2015-12-14 14:23:11     n-tech  like pizzahut, jollibees
  1762. 2015-12-14 14:23:15     n-tech  they call you on their globe numbers
  1763. 2015-12-14 14:23:17     copypaste       "yes correc"
  1764. 2015-12-14 14:23:22     copypaste       "sweet"
  1765. 2015-12-14 14:23:31     n-tech  oh so that's who Christian Roxas is
  1766. 2015-12-14 14:23:35     copypaste       yeah
  1767. 2015-12-14 14:23:38     copypaste       mine wasn't that
  1768. 2015-12-14 14:23:41     n-tech  The other name is Rusty Ortega
  1769. 2015-12-14 14:23:42     copypaste       i
  1770. 2015-12-14 14:23:47     copypaste       i'd have to look back, it's been a while
  1771. 2015-12-14 14:23:48     n-tech  but Ortega sounded like THE ortegas
  1772. 2015-12-14 14:23:52     copypaste       lol
  1773. 2015-12-14 14:23:54     n-tech  Resty*
  1774. 2015-12-14 14:23:57     copypaste       Christopher Columbus
  1775. 2015-12-14 14:23:58     copypaste       here
  1776. 2015-12-14 14:23:59     copypaste       with ur cash
  1777. 2015-12-14 14:24:27     copypaste       alright i have those printouts
  1778. 2015-12-14 14:24:30     n-tech  hey it works. both times i walked in with a correct # i had money in like 3 minutes
  1779. 2015-12-14 14:24:38     copypaste       be aware, my printer is ancient so
  1780. 2015-12-14 14:24:47     copypaste       it's not very clear
  1781. 2015-12-14 14:24:51     n-tech  lol
  1782. 2015-12-14 14:24:52     copypaste       and all the color pictures look like shit
  1783. 2015-12-14 14:24:56     copypaste       but it's still readable
  1784. 2015-12-14 14:24:59     n-tech  you should forward me the emails as well so I have them on my phone
  1785. 2015-12-14 14:25:02     n-tech  that saved my ass when I was coming in
  1786. 2015-12-14 14:25:05     copypaste       oh, that's a good idea
  1787. 2015-12-14 14:25:09     copypaste       to what email?
  1788. 2015-12-14 14:25:12     n-tech  i didn't realize I had to present my outbound plane ticket at the counter
  1789. 2015-12-14 14:25:13     copypaste       sorry i never remember
  1790. 2015-12-14 14:25:16     copypaste       you have so many
  1791. 2015-12-14 14:25:19     n-tech  do uh, [email protected] lol
  1792. 2015-12-14 14:25:21     n-tech  ye i do
  1793. 2015-12-14 14:25:28     n-tech  [email protected], [email protected], [email protected] go to the same inbox
  1794. 2015-12-14 14:25:31     copypaste       yee
  1795. 2015-12-14 14:25:34     n-tech  [email protected] is the one by Gmail
  1796. 2015-12-14 14:25:54     n-tech  but I like hosting my own inbox, it's so covenient
  1797. 2015-12-14 14:25:55     copypaste       however be aware that for entering NAIA you need a paper copy
  1798. 2015-12-14 14:26:00     copypaste       and eespecially in the province
  1799. 2015-12-14 14:26:05     copypaste       of course, we're not going to the province
  1800. 2015-12-14 14:26:21     copypaste       but i've gone to Kalibo and i really needed paper copies of everything there
  1801. 2015-12-14 14:26:29     copypaste       lol, that airport was the most amazing i've ever been to
  1802. 2015-12-14 14:26:38     copypaste       you know how most airport have like ramps that the plane pulls up to
  1803. 2015-12-14 14:26:40     copypaste       not kalibo
  1804. 2015-12-14 14:26:46     copypaste       we taxied to a field
  1805. 2015-12-14 14:26:52     copypaste       and they had to carry me down five flights of stairs
  1806. 2015-12-14 14:27:00     copypaste       six dudes helped out with this
  1807. 2015-12-14 14:27:04     copypaste       and i wasn't the only wheelchair
  1808. 2015-12-14 14:27:07     n-tech  lol
  1809. 2015-12-14 14:27:07     copypaste       they also carried down a grandmother
  1810. 2015-12-14 14:27:08     copypaste       lol
  1811. 2015-12-14 14:27:11     n-tech  aww
  1812. 2015-12-14 14:27:24     copypaste       but yeah there's a runway, a field
  1813. 2015-12-14 14:27:27     copypaste       and a concrete building
  1814. 2015-12-14 14:27:30     copypaste       that was the whole airport
  1815. 2015-12-14 14:27:31     copypaste       lol
  1816. 2015-12-14 14:27:44     copypaste       so many people around there too, like holy shit
  1817. 2015-12-14 14:27:55     n-tech  where is Kalibo?
  1818. 2015-12-14 14:28:00     copypaste       in bisayas region
  1819. 2015-12-14 14:28:06     copypaste       it's basically the capital of the bisayas region
  1820. 2015-12-14 14:28:22     copypaste       but it's not modern at all
  1821. 2015-12-14 14:28:35     copypaste       cebu is the "capital" of mindanao and is very modern
  1822. 2015-12-14 14:28:42     copypaste       bisayas is not a place most foreigners go to
  1823. 2015-12-14 14:28:46     copypaste       i went because mochis family lives there
  1824. 2015-12-14 14:28:50     copypaste       but there's nothing to do there really
  1825. 2015-12-14 14:28:53     n-tech  bisayas is a province in ph?
  1826. 2015-12-14 14:28:57     n-tech  ah
  1827. 2015-12-14 14:29:01     copypaste       PH has 3 main regions
  1828. 2015-12-14 14:29:06     copypaste       Luzon, Bisayas and Mindanao
  1829. 2015-12-14 14:29:14     n-tech  and ncr?
  1830. 2015-12-14 14:29:16     copypaste       Bisayas is the middle region and has the most islands
  1831. 2015-12-14 14:29:20     copypaste       NCR is in Luzon
  1832. 2015-12-14 14:29:27     copypaste       we are in luzon
  1833. 2015-12-14 14:29:36     copypaste       luzon is the largest single island i think
  1834. 2015-12-14 14:29:39     n-tech  theres so many classifications of land
  1835. 2015-12-14 14:29:48     copypaste       yes
  1836. 2015-12-14 14:29:56     copypaste       beyont that there are provinces, towns, barangays, and so on
  1837. 2015-12-14 14:30:04     n-tech  Republic of Philippines, Luzon, NCR, Quezon, Cubao, Socorro, General Malvar Ave, Manhattan Parkview, Tower 1, 6N
  1838. 2015-12-14 14:30:05     copypaste       there are also 8 administrative regions that don't have anything to do with that
  1839. 2015-12-14 14:30:06     n-tech  like fuck that
  1840. 2015-12-14 14:30:08     copypaste       lol
  1841. 2015-12-14 14:30:24     n-tech  it's as long as an IPV6 IP
  1842. 2015-12-14 14:30:36     n-tech  they have designations for every square meter
  1843. 2015-12-14 14:31:01     copypaste       and still no one can find their way around
  1844. 2015-12-14 14:31:07     copypaste       i still love it here though
  1845. 2015-12-14 14:31:10     copypaste       this is my home
  1846. 2015-12-14 14:32:53     copypaste       https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2a/Ph_regions_and_provinces.png
  1847. 2015-12-14 14:32:56     copypaste       this map might help
  1848. 2015-12-14 14:34:27     copypaste       if u see the southern portion of the map
  1849. 2015-12-14 14:34:30     copypaste       maguindanao and cotabato
  1850. 2015-12-14 14:34:35     copypaste       that is abu sayyaf territory
  1851. 2015-12-14 14:34:38     copypaste       most dangerous part of the country
  1852. 2015-12-14 14:34:47     copypaste       there is no electric there and it is run by muslim warlords
  1853. 2015-12-14 14:34:58     n-tech  lol
  1854. 2015-12-14 14:35:04     n-tech  is that the southmost part nearest Indonesia?
  1855. 2015-12-14 14:35:07     copypaste       yes
  1856. 2015-12-14 14:35:15     n-tech  indonesia is like fucking asian mexico
  1857. 2015-12-14 14:35:20     copypaste       here's the peace treaty
  1858. 2015-12-14 14:35:21     copypaste       https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangsamoro_Basic_Law
  1859. 2015-12-14 14:35:26     copypaste       but it's all tied up in congress
  1860. 2015-12-14 14:35:29     copypaste       i've been folowing the news
  1861. 2015-12-14 14:35:38     n-tech  and what's funny is that they're the only muslim majority country in the world with a true democracy
  1862. 2015-12-14 14:35:42     copypaste       Aquino really wants to pass it and make that area its own country pretty much
  1863. 2015-12-14 14:35:45     n-tech  and even then it's still a secular country
  1864. 2015-12-14 14:35:46     copypaste       however most of the presidential candidates
  1865. 2015-12-14 14:35:49     copypaste       especially duterte
  1866. 2015-12-14 14:35:53     copypaste       just want to bulldoze them
  1867. 2015-12-14 14:36:02     copypaste       no secession allowed
  1868. 2015-12-14 14:36:02     n-tech  it should be done, i would support that
  1869. 2015-12-14 14:36:08     n-tech  it's true, it has to happen
  1870. 2015-12-14 14:36:12     n-tech  look at CSA versus USA
  1871. 2015-12-14 14:36:17     n-tech  you have to keep it together or it falls apart
  1872. 2015-12-14 14:36:20     n-tech  there is no midle country
  1873. 2015-12-14 14:36:23     n-tech  middle ground**
  1874. 2015-12-14 14:36:52     copypaste       i think it's a very bad idea to give them their own country so close to davao and cebu
  1875. 2015-12-14 14:37:01     copypaste       they'll become like palestine
  1876. 2015-12-14 14:37:08     copypaste       launching rockets from their territory for expansion
  1877. 2015-12-14 14:37:10     copypaste       all muslims are liars
  1878. 2015-12-14 14:37:14     copypaste       they don't want peace
  1879. 2015-12-14 14:37:25     copypaste       well, they do want peace
  1880. 2015-12-14 14:37:28     copypaste       a peaceful 100% islamic world
  1881. 2015-12-14 14:37:33     copypaste       anything else is not muslim peace
  1882. 2015-12-14 14:37:44     n-tech  ye i know i've been telling you this
  1883. 2015-12-14 14:37:51     n-tech  the peaceful muslims want cultural jihad
  1884. 2015-12-14 14:37:58     copypaste       ye
  1885. 2015-12-14 14:38:05     copypaste       anyway, the BBL has no chance of passing
  1886. 2015-12-14 14:38:08     copypaste       in my perspective
  1887. 2015-12-14 14:38:18     copypaste       aquino is almost out of office and the draft has not even been written
  1888. 2015-12-14 14:38:33     copypaste       http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/746867/746867
  1889. 2015-12-14 14:38:38     copypaste       i read in the STAR about this
  1890. 2015-12-14 14:38:54     copypaste       i bet he really did bribe them because for months he's been saying that his legacy will be the BBL
  1891. 2015-12-14 14:39:04     copypaste       if it doesn't pass by the end of the month it has no chance of ever passing
  1892. 2015-12-14 14:39:38     n-tech  /pol/ has become completely worthless
  1893. 2015-12-14 14:39:48     n-tech  i scroll down and literally every thread is about trump dicksucking
  1894. 2015-12-14 14:40:01     n-tech  or how much the jews such
  1895. 2015-12-14 14:40:01     copypaste       you don't remember /new/ in 2012
  1896. 2015-12-14 14:40:02     copypaste       i do
  1897. 2015-12-14 14:40:03     n-tech  suck*
  1898. 2015-12-14 14:40:07     copypaste       it was like that except with ron paul
  1899. 2015-12-14 14:40:15     copypaste       they always get like this in an election season
  1900. 2015-12-14 14:40:20     copypaste       just wait until the outcome
  1901. 2015-12-14 14:40:23     copypaste       things go bak to normal
  1902. 2015-12-14 14:41:07     copypaste       btw the election is getting super nasty, i think they're going to start ordering hits on each other soon
  1903. 2015-12-14 14:41:19     copypaste       there are so many candidates and they all hate each other
  1904. 2015-12-14 14:41:35     n-tech  here or there
  1905. 2015-12-14 14:41:39     copypaste       here
  1906. 2015-12-14 14:41:55     copypaste       the front runner duterte told a crowd of his supporters that he personally ordered the extrajudicial killings of 1700 criminals in davao
  1907. 2015-12-14 14:42:06     copypaste       and that the commission for human rights was wrong when it said 700
  1908. 2015-12-14 14:42:08     copypaste       off by 1k
  1909. 2015-12-14 14:42:21     copypaste       and that they can't touch him, and that if other candidates are afraid to kill criminals they're hopeless
  1910. 2015-12-14 14:42:23     copypaste       lol
  1911. 2015-12-14 14:43:07     copypaste       http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2015/12/14/1532405/palace-backs-chr-probe-duterte
  1912. 2015-12-14 14:45:26     copypaste       oh and by the way on the INC front they are still being held at the church in QC
  1913. 2015-12-14 14:45:43     copypaste       they've been held there for like 3 months
  1914. 2015-12-14 14:46:54     n-tech  that's what they get for betraying god
  1915. 2015-12-14 14:51:52     copypaste       how does this picture make you feel
  1916. 2015-12-14 14:51:53     copypaste       https://nlcaspphil.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/welcome-arch-to-marawi-city1.jpg
  1917. 2015-12-14 14:56:57     n-tech  lol. reminds me of the street sign to mecca that says all non-muslims must take an exit route.
  1918. 2015-12-14 14:57:03     n-tech  i'll come over once i finish up a bug fix.
  1919. 2015-12-14 14:57:06     copypaste       ok
  1920. 2015-12-14 18:20:31     n-tech  https://github.com/infinity-next/infinity-next/issues/200
  1921. 2015-12-14 18:20:34     n-tech  this guy is starting to piss me off
  1922. 2015-12-14 18:20:42     n-tech  he has some sort of fucking raging hate boner over MutationObserver
  1923. 2015-12-14 18:20:47     n-tech  because it doesn't work in Palemoon
  1924. 2015-12-14 18:20:53     n-tech  He's trying to justify me changing it I think
  1925. 2015-12-14 18:28:26     copypaste       MO is cool
  1926. 2015-12-14 18:28:32     copypaste       according to the mozdev article it was added in FF 14
  1927. 2015-12-14 18:28:37     copypaste       i'd never heard of it before
  1928. 2015-12-14 18:28:42     copypaste       this isn't your problem
  1929. 2015-12-14 18:29:48     n-tech  He's presenting a real problem but I think the issue is different
  1930. 2015-12-14 18:29:53     n-tech  I abuse SessionStorage in Next
  1931. 2015-12-14 18:29:56     n-tech  Any post you witness is recorded
  1932. 2015-12-14 18:30:01     n-tech  it saves like, thousands of posts
  1933. 2015-12-14 18:30:06     n-tech  but starts destroying them as they aren't used
  1934. 2015-12-14 18:30:12     n-tech  so citation hovering is extremely zippy
  1935. 2015-12-14 18:30:19     n-tech  but
  1936. 2015-12-14 18:30:28     n-tech  if it caches incorrectly (i.e. it stores before it's loaded)
  1937. 2015-12-14 18:30:36     n-tech  it will stay that way until your session changes
  1938. 2015-12-14 18:30:46     copypaste       you actually use a ton of new JS APIs
  1939. 2015-12-14 18:30:49     n-tech  but yeah his assumption is wrong
  1940. 2015-12-14 18:30:50     copypaste       from the sound of things
  1941. 2015-12-14 18:30:55     n-tech  ye nigga i stay current
  1942. 2015-12-14 18:30:59     n-tech  I'm a FULL STACK developer
  1943. 2015-12-14 18:31:02     n-tech  fullest of stacks
  1944. 2015-12-14 18:31:07     copypaste       lots of things that didn't exist when tinyboard was made
  1945. 2015-12-14 18:31:11     copypaste       even firefox 14 was in 2012
  1946. 2015-12-14 18:31:12     n-tech  the point was to take something old and make it work dream-like
  1947. 2015-12-14 18:31:22     n-tech  without really
  1948. 2015-12-14 18:31:25     n-tech  changing the basic formula
  1949. 2015-12-14 18:31:31     n-tech  people say it's too different, it's remarkably similar
  1950. 2015-12-14 18:31:35     n-tech  it just feels new
  1951. 2015-12-14 18:32:37     n-tech  it's like when they take a really old car
  1952. 2015-12-14 18:32:44     n-tech  and soup it up with that shiny chrome engine that sticks out of the hood
  1953. 2015-12-14 18:32:48     n-tech  it's still technically the same car
  1954. 2015-12-14 18:32:51     n-tech  just .. not really
  1955. 2015-12-14 18:32:51     n-tech  ayyy
  1956. 2015-12-14 22:34:10     n-tech  http://beta.8ch.net/next/thread/4535#4945
  1957. 2015-12-14 22:34:15     n-tech  i think this is all he does
  1958. 2015-12-14 22:34:23     n-tech  he's trying really hard to get /ints/ on Freech to switch
  1959. 2015-12-14 22:34:33     n-tech  every time h updates he makes a post with update details on Freech
  1960. 2015-12-14 22:34:38     n-tech  he wants one board, any board, to use Lynxchan
  1961. 2015-12-14 22:35:03     n-tech  I have never once in my entire life willingly and knowingly checked on what he's been up to
  1962. 2015-12-14 22:35:09     n-tech  everything i know is forced into my face
  1963. 2015-12-14 22:36:16     copypaste       http://beta.8ch.net/next/thread/4535#4826 this is interesting
  1964. 2015-12-14 22:36:19     copypaste       they found the exact bug
  1965. 2015-12-14 22:36:31     copypaste       "I see the link in >>4826, alright. Bug reports apparently should be shown through the forum, not IRC or e-mail, which is BS IMO."
  1966. 2015-12-14 22:36:33     copypaste       and this is hilarious
  1967. 2015-12-14 22:36:35     copypaste       i lol'd
  1968. 2015-12-14 22:36:48     copypaste       oh wrong line
  1969. 2015-12-14 22:36:50     copypaste       "The firefox bug has been linked in this thread, just link furfag to it via email and hopefully he doesn't cry fursecution like he does all the time."
  1970. 2015-12-14 22:36:56     copypaste       FURSECUTION
  1971. 2015-12-14 22:37:01     copypaste       it's been a long time since i read that word
  1972. 2015-12-14 22:37:30     n-tech  this aussie cunt is having a mental fucking breakdown
  1973. 2015-12-14 22:38:11     copypaste       well, he's right about one thing
  1974. 2015-12-14 22:38:12     copypaste       the newlines
  1975. 2015-12-14 22:38:16     copypaste       ( ≖‿≖)
  1976. 2015-12-14 22:38:33     n-tech  markdown spec. can't be gotten rid of unless someone wants to write huge chunks of our text parser.
  1977. 2015-12-14 22:42:08     copypaste       i think it could be fixed just with some margin-bottom
  1978. 2015-12-14 22:42:16     n-tech  nope.
  1979. 2015-12-14 22:42:18     n-tech  doesn't work
  1980. 2015-12-14 22:42:19     n-tech  because
  1981. 2015-12-14 22:42:34     n-tech    \n>text\ntext and \n>text\n\n\text are interpreted the same way.
  1982. 2015-12-14 22:42:45     copypaste       i thought you used literal newlines
  1983. 2015-12-14 22:42:50     n-tech  i do
  1984. 2015-12-14 22:42:53     n-tech  but that doesn't apply
  1985. 2015-12-14 22:42:56     copypaste       why
  1986. 2015-12-14 22:42:58     n-tech  the quoteblocks phasing into paragraphs
  1987. 2015-12-14 22:43:02     n-tech  because of the markdown spec.
  1988. 2015-12-14 22:43:05     copypaste       \n\n should be <p></p><p></p>
  1989. 2015-12-14 22:43:09     n-tech  nope.
  1990. 2015-12-14 22:43:10     copypaste       if you have literal newlines
  1991. 2015-12-14 22:43:12     n-tech  look at the html.
  1992. 2015-12-14 22:43:14     copypaste       well then they aren't literal
  1993. 2015-12-14 22:43:16     n-tech  look at the html. markdown spec.
  1994. 2015-12-14 22:43:19     copypaste       muh spec
  1995. 2015-12-14 22:43:21     n-tech  yes they are. but quoteblocks are handled differently.
  1996. 2015-12-14 22:43:22     copypaste       they're not literal then
  1997. 2015-12-14 22:43:28     n-tech  it's the spec.
  1998. 2015-12-14 22:43:33     copypaste       ok, so they're called literal newlines but actually aren't
  1999. 2015-12-14 22:43:35     n-tech  either write it yourself or write the developer
  2000. 2015-12-14 22:43:39     n-tech  I have a hundred thousand other fucking things to do
  2001. 2015-12-14 22:43:44     n-tech  than deal with this fucking noise right now
  2002. 2015-12-14 22:43:46     n-tech  I do not care
  2003. 2015-12-14 22:50:11     copypaste       you're using parsedown right
  2004. 2015-12-14 22:50:26     n-tech  no.
  2005. 2015-12-14 22:50:26     n-tech  https://github.com/infinity-next/eightdown
  2006. 2015-12-14 22:50:30     copypaste       in a very simple test all that is needed for <br> is calling setBreaksEnabled(true)
  2007. 2015-12-14 22:50:30     n-tech  it's its own fucking project
  2008. 2015-12-14 22:50:33     n-tech  but yes
  2009. 2015-12-14 22:50:34     copypaste       ok, but it's based on parsedown
  2010. 2015-12-14 22:50:34     n-tech  I KNOW
  2011. 2015-12-14 22:50:35     n-tech  IT'S DONE
  2012. 2015-12-14 22:50:36     n-tech  THIS
  2013. 2015-12-14 22:50:36     n-tech  IT
  2014. 2015-12-14 22:50:37     copypaste       and is 99% parsedown
  2015. 2015-12-14 22:50:38     n-tech  IS IT
  2016. 2015-12-14 22:50:41     n-tech  WITH LITERAL INTERPRETAITON
  2017. 2015-12-14 22:50:44     n-tech  THIS IS WHAT YOU GET
  2018. 2015-12-14 22:50:48     n-tech  i don't know how I have to explain this to you
  2019. 2015-12-14 22:50:49     n-tech  WE USE
  2020. 2015-12-14 22:50:52     n-tech  literal breaks
  2021. 2015-12-14 22:50:59     n-tech  otherwise you'd have to use --
  2022. 2015-12-14 22:51:00     copypaste       you get \n => <br/> but not \n\n => <br/><br/> ?
  2023. 2015-12-14 22:51:01     n-tech  to break lines
  2024. 2015-12-14 22:51:03     copypaste       that sounds like a bug
  2025. 2015-12-14 22:51:16     n-tech  then fucking fix it, i can't, I don't have time
  2026. 2015-12-14 22:51:38     n-tech  I have a thousand things broken and I've spent time placating a thousand noisy autists for the last month
  2027. 2015-12-14 22:51:40     n-tech  I don't have time
  2028. 2015-12-14 22:59:54     copypaste       what about the css
  2029. 2015-12-14 23:00:02     n-tech  doesn't work.
  2030. 2015-12-14 23:00:02     copypaste       blockquote.ugc blockquote { margin-bottom: 0 }
  2031. 2015-12-14 23:00:13     n-tech  \n>quote\n\ntext
  2032. 2015-12-14 23:00:19     n-tech  is the same as \n>quote\ntext
  2033. 2015-12-14 23:00:23     n-tech  so that time you're asking for double space
  2034. 2015-12-14 23:00:26     n-tech  will cause it not to double space.
  2035. 2015-12-14 23:00:41     n-tech  I said this before
  2036. 2015-12-14 23:02:30     copypaste       i'm partial to omitting the double space even if requested as it's a weird format anyway
  2037. 2015-12-14 23:02:41     copypaste       and still going with that css
  2038. 2015-12-14 23:02:54     copypaste       that will solve the most noticeable difference
  2039. 2015-12-14 23:03:36     copypaste       >e\nquote and >e\n\nquote are actually the same, so we're just picking one over another
  2040. 2015-12-14 23:03:49     n-tech  alright, i can do that.
  2041. 2015-12-14 23:03:49     copypaste       and we'd be picking the one that most users use and are accustomed to
  2042. 2015-12-14 23:03:51     copypaste       ok
  2043. 2015-12-14 23:04:04     copypaste       there is precedent as \n\n\n\n\n... is collapsed
  2044. 2015-12-14 23:04:59     copypaste       i also see how it's not a bug, but it's also not "literal newlines"; but the markdown spec doesn't include that quote so it's a moot point
  2045. 2015-12-14 23:05:10     copypaste       all is well in the world
  2046. 2015-12-14 23:05:38     n-tech  literal newlines are added. they're interpreting \n instead of double spaces.
  2047. 2015-12-14 23:05:41     n-tech  that's what that feature is for
  2048. 2015-12-14 23:06:02     copypaste       well for me a literal newline would mean that every \n is added to the output
  2049. 2015-12-14 23:06:10     copypaste       even if it contains nothing
  2050. 2015-12-14 23:06:24     n-tech  if you did that you'd have my broken paragraphing on 8chan
  2051. 2015-12-14 23:06:24     copypaste       so \n\n\n would become <p></p><p></p><p></p>
  2052. 2015-12-14 23:06:30     n-tech  which incorrectly collapses paragraphs
  2053. 2015-12-14 23:06:32     n-tech  if you ctrl+c
  2054. 2015-12-14 23:06:37     copypaste       yep
  2055. 2015-12-14 23:06:59     copypaste       i think this css fix is ideal, many sites treat >e\nx and >e\n\nx as the same
  2056. 2015-12-14 23:07:03     copypaste       this is called modernizing
  2057. 2015-12-14 23:07:04     copypaste       :D
  2058. 2015-12-14 23:08:16     n-tech  IDF @IDFSpokesperson
  2059. 2015-12-14 23:08:16     n-tech  Update: 11 injured in Jerusalem car ramming attack
  2060. 2015-12-14 23:08:22     n-tech  how the fuck do 11 people get injured in a car ramming attack
  2061. 2015-12-14 23:08:30     copypaste       haven't you ever played GTA?
  2062. 2015-12-14 23:08:34     n-tech  lol
  2063. 2015-12-14 23:08:35     copypaste       hint: one of the cars explodes
  2064. 2015-12-14 23:08:35     copypaste       :D
  2065. 2015-12-14 23:08:46     n-tech  Driver rams vehicle at pedestrians at entrance to Jerusalem, injuring 9. Assailant shot. Axe found in car. pic.twitter.com/k5enMLS3vn
  2066. 2015-12-14 23:08:55     n-tech  https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWMLO5KWUAAussq.jpg:large
  2067. 2015-12-14 23:08:59     n-tech  man the middle east is like gta irl
  2068. 2015-12-14 23:09:15     copypaste       lol
  2069. 2015-12-14 23:09:19     copypaste       no, that would be mexico
  2070. 2015-12-15 20:06:07     copypaste       everything ok?
  2071. 2015-12-15 20:06:30     n-tech  ye
  2072. 2015-12-15 20:06:31     n-tech  wassup
  2073. 2015-12-15 20:08:09     copypaste       how is migration script going?
  2074. 2015-12-15 20:09:06     n-tech  It's incomplete. I woke up in the afternoon so I'll be up all night on it
  2075. 2015-12-15 20:09:52     copypaste       ok cool
  2076. 2015-12-15 20:10:00     copypaste       there's still time for a 15th-in-the-USA then
  2077. 2015-12-15 20:10:16     copypaste       i'll leave you alone and not distract you any further. thank you
  2078. 2015-12-16 16:39:41     n-tech  All of 8chan is down including the beta
  2079. 2015-12-16 16:39:47     n-tech  Appears to be either a DDoS or DC issue
  2080. 2015-12-16 16:39:53     n-tech  Top for beta was normal when I had access
  2081. 2015-12-16 16:39:56     n-tech  but now it killed that pipe
  2082. 2015-12-16 16:42:34     copypaste       2ch is also down
  2083. 2015-12-16 16:42:42     copypaste       they called the ISP
  2084. 2015-12-16 16:42:50     copypaste       DDoS most definitely
  2085. 2015-12-16 16:43:06     copypaste       (or a router taking a shit i suppose)
  2086. 2015-12-16 16:48:11     copypaste       according to them it's taking 10Gbps which is the max uplink
  2087. 2015-12-16 16:48:16     copypaste       just have to wat
  2088. 2015-12-16 16:48:18     copypaste       wait*
  2089. 2015-12-16 16:48:33     copypaste       some datacenters have 100Gbps and failover, but we don't. lol
  2090. 2015-12-16 16:48:43     n-tech  lol
  2091. 2015-12-16 16:48:49     n-tech  is it a financial issue?
  2092. 2015-12-16 16:49:09     copypaste       i would say so.
  2093. 2015-12-16 16:49:17     copypaste       remember that ISPs also charge you for DDoS traffic
  2094. 2015-12-16 16:49:34     copypaste       how hosts pass that on to customers is deceptive
  2095. 2015-12-16 16:49:41     copypaste       "unlilmited" until you use too much
  2096. 2015-12-16 16:49:57     n-tech  they don't say unlimited anymore
  2097. 2015-12-16 16:49:58     n-tech  they say like
  2098. 2015-12-16 16:50:05     n-tech  "Unmetered until 100TiB"
  2099. 2015-12-16 16:50:06     copypaste       so for even 10Gbps i believe we pay 5 cents every second
  2100. 2015-12-16 16:50:19     copypaste       i'm pretty sure it's a half penny per GB
  2101. 2015-12-16 16:55:28     copypaste       this reminds me of a quote i read in a normalfag news site
  2102. 2015-12-16 16:55:30     copypaste       let me find it again
  2103. 2015-12-16 16:55:51     copypaste       http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/nov/03/hackers-gonna-hack-but-why-maybe-freud-has-the-answer
  2104. 2015-12-16 16:55:58     copypaste       “A humanistic, cognitive psychology approach to hacking would be to consider an emotion such as revenge… But my favourite explanation for the academic literature is a Freudian psychoanalytic approach to hacking, which actually conceptualises hacking in Freudian terms as a cyber-sexual urge to penetrate. And there are castration complex overtones in terms of being cut off from the network as
  2105. 2015-12-16 16:55:58     copypaste       well…”
  2106. 2015-12-16 16:56:11     copypaste       right now we are being cyber sexually raped
  2107. 2015-12-16 16:56:17     copypaste       and castrated against our will by masked rapists
  2108. 2015-12-16 16:56:22     n-tech  RIP 2chan butthole
  2109. 2015-12-16 16:56:29     n-tech  also srhbutts said that 8chan is a terrorist site
  2110. 2015-12-16 16:56:31     n-tech  so i tweeted him
  2111. 2015-12-16 16:56:33     n-tech  https://twitter.com/8ntech/status/677049241823543296
  2112. 2015-12-16 16:56:43     copypaste       over cockli
  2113. 2015-12-16 16:56:46     copypaste       what does that say
  2114. 2015-12-16 16:56:52     copypaste       cockli was used to threaten LA schools or something
  2115. 2015-12-16 16:56:55     copypaste       you saw right?
  2116. 2015-12-16 16:57:03     n-tech  nope
  2117. 2015-12-16 16:57:05     n-tech  قطع رأس تلك التي التحرش الأطفال والحيوانات.
  2118. 2015-12-16 16:57:08     n-tech  it says
  2119. 2015-12-16 16:57:13     n-tech  "Behead those that molest animals and children."
  2120. 2015-12-16 16:57:14     n-tech  I think
  2121. 2015-12-16 16:57:17     copypaste       lol
  2122. 2015-12-16 16:57:27     n-tech  I used Google Translate but it translates well using Bing and Google
  2123. 2015-12-16 16:57:27     n-tech  lol
  2124. 2015-12-16 16:57:30     copypaste       yeah someone signed up for a cock.li email address
  2125. 2015-12-16 16:57:36     copypaste       and used it to threaten LA schools
  2126. 2015-12-16 16:57:41     copypaste       and so all schools closed for a day
  2127. 2015-12-16 16:59:38     n-tech  some kid didn't want to go to school that day so he made [email protected]
  2128. 2015-12-16 16:59:41     n-tech  and sent letters out
  2129. 2015-12-16 17:00:25     copypaste       and it worked
  2130. 2015-12-16 17:00:30     n-tech  ye
  2131. 2015-12-16 17:00:31     copypaste       this is the snow day for the 21st century
  2132. 2015-12-16 17:00:35     n-tech  sleeping well tonight
  2133. 2015-12-16 17:00:38     n-tech  zzZZzz
  2134. 2015-12-16 17:00:44     n-tech  played some Call of Duty
  2135. 2015-12-16 17:00:49     copypaste       this ddos is a good thing to blame the delay on
  2136. 2015-12-16 17:00:49     n-tech  blew up some people that way
  2137. 2015-12-16 17:01:03     copypaste       good timing skiddies
  2138. 2015-12-16 17:04:38     n-tech  btw
  2139. 2015-12-16 17:06:48     n-tech  http://i.imgur.com/ndWML9H.png - Exploitation eXhibitionist obscenity denial of use shiel
  2140. 2015-12-16 17:06:50     n-tech  shield*
  2141. 2015-12-16 17:07:03     n-tech  uguu
  2142. 2015-12-16 17:07:29     n-tech  the EXO is the hard one to come up a backronym for
  2143. 2015-12-16 17:07:41     n-tech  "Exploitative Exhibitionist Obscenity"
  2144. 2015-12-16 17:07:46     n-tech  "Exhibitionist Explotation Obscenity"
  2145. 2015-12-16 17:07:52     n-tech  "Extreme Exhibition Obscenity"
  2146. 2015-12-16 18:32:02     copypaste       this page may interest you
  2147. 2015-12-16 18:32:03     copypaste       http://he.net/ip_transit/
  2148. 2015-12-16 18:38:54     n-tech  wut
  2149. 2015-12-16 18:38:55     n-tech  what is it
  2150. 2015-12-16 18:39:11     copypaste       colo
  2151. 2015-12-16 18:39:13     n-tech  a $200 VPN?
  2152. 2015-12-16 18:39:17     copypaste       no
  2153. 2015-12-16 18:39:19     copypaste       colocation
  2154. 2015-12-16 18:39:33     copypaste       you rent a space in one of those datacenters and they connect you
  2155. 2015-12-16 18:39:39     copypaste       it -starts- at $200, based on usage
  2156. 2015-12-16 18:39:46     copypaste       hurricane electric is one of the bigger bulk ISPs
  2157. 2015-12-16 18:39:58     n-tech  What's the interest in this? 16ch?
  2158. 2015-12-16 18:40:02     n-tech  or the chinese thing
  2159. 2015-12-16 18:40:05     copypaste       both
  2160. 2015-12-16 18:40:10     copypaste       it has a spot in singapore
  2161. 2015-12-16 18:40:23     copypaste       i saw jim discussion it since they claim to offer 100gbps
  2162. 2015-12-16 18:40:30     copypaste       100gbps attacks are much harder to mount
  2163. 2015-12-16 18:40:31     n-tech  interesting
  2164. 2015-12-16 18:40:36     n-tech  ye i imagine
  2165. 2015-12-16 18:40:45     n-tech  100Gbps is 1/8th 100GiB/s yea?
  2166. 2015-12-16 18:40:51     copypaste       yep
  2167. 2015-12-16 18:40:54     n-tech  I always get confused on metrics
  2168. 2015-12-16 18:40:57     copypaste       yeah
  2169. 2015-12-16 18:41:01     copypaste       traffic is always sold in bits
  2170. 2015-12-16 18:41:02     n-tech  because ISPs only do Gigabits
  2171. 2015-12-16 18:41:02     copypaste       not bytes
  2172. 2015-12-16 18:41:05     n-tech  and everyone else does GigaBytes
  2173. 2015-12-16 18:41:07     n-tech  because bits are bigger
  2174. 2015-12-16 18:41:08     n-tech  lol
  2175. 2015-12-16 18:41:10     copypaste       yeah lol
  2176. 2015-12-16 18:41:11     n-tech  in terms of numbers
  2177. 2015-12-16 18:41:12     copypaste       at all levels
  2178. 2015-12-16 18:41:25     n-tech  I remember when I discovered this
  2179. 2015-12-16 18:41:34     n-tech  I was 14 and trying to figure out why my ISP offered speeds higher than what I got
  2180. 2015-12-16 18:41:44     n-tech  and their customer service just told me to fuck off and couldn't explain the difference
  2181. 2015-12-16 18:41:45     n-tech  lol
  2182. 2015-12-16 18:41:51     copypaste       LOL
  2183. 2015-12-16 18:42:30     copypaste       then you get 1024-MB vs 1000-MB
  2184. 2015-12-16 18:43:01     n-tech  MiB
  2185. 2015-12-16 18:43:02     n-tech  :^)
  2186. 2015-12-16 19:19:08     n-tech  copypaste, did we decide against importing bans?
  2187. 2015-12-16 20:28:40     copypaste         yes
  2188. 2015-12-16 20:28:44     copypaste       or at least i did
  2189. 2015-12-16 20:29:10     copypaste       why, do you think they should be?
  2190. 2015-12-16 20:29:15     n-tech  no, I was just asking
  2191. 2015-12-16 20:29:19     n-tech  I googled "Consent Hug" because one of our spergs kept saying it
  2192. 2015-12-16 20:29:24     copypaste       the current table is quite non-standard and i se no reson to import them when they're rotated every 90 days
  2193. 2015-12-16 20:29:25     n-tech  and I found an Urban Dictionary article on it
  2194. 2015-12-16 20:29:25     copypaste       oh ok
  2195. 2015-12-16 20:29:30     n-tech  www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=consent culture
  2196. 2015-12-16 20:29:34     n-tech  look at this
  2197. 2015-12-16 20:29:36     n-tech  urban dictionary
  2198. 2015-12-16 20:29:38     n-tech  is now faggified
  2199. 2015-12-16 20:29:44     n-tech  when did everything become so fucking gay
  2200. 2015-12-16 20:30:27     copypaste       only 2 thumbs down
  2201. 2015-12-16 20:30:28     copypaste       lol
  2202. 2015-12-16 20:30:32     n-tech  look at the next done
  2203. 2015-12-16 20:30:37     n-tech  it is a very polite protest to the first
  2204. 2015-12-16 20:30:39     n-tech  and sas it's irration
  2205. 2015-12-16 20:30:40     n-tech  273
  2206. 2015-12-16 20:30:42     n-tech  downvotes
  2207. 2015-12-16 20:30:45     n-tech  like holy shit
  2208. 2015-12-16 20:30:50     n-tech  irrational**
  2209. 2015-12-16 20:31:11     n-tech  I took a break to get some stuff from the store and sat down
  2210. 2015-12-16 20:31:22     n-tech  and had decided that i'm going to dedicate my life to making the Internet a more profone place
  2211. 2015-12-16 20:31:25     n-tech  profane*
  2212. 2015-12-16 20:31:25     n-tech  http://i.imgur.com/nlxCy64.png
  2213. 2015-12-16 20:31:30     n-tech  it's gonna be great
  2214. 2015-12-16 20:32:23     copypaste       i vote 4 u
  2215. 2015-12-16 20:32:27     n-tech  ty
  2216. 2015-12-16 21:01:21     n-tech  wait copy
  2217. 2015-12-16 21:01:29     n-tech  is "we're under attack mode" not an option?
  2218. 2015-12-16 21:01:40     n-tech  or is the router the target
  2219. 2015-12-16 21:01:46     n-tech  or is it ip based
  2220. 2015-12-16 21:01:47     n-tech  or what
  2221. 2015-12-16 22:44:13     copypaste       it's not an option because it's against the origin IP
  2222. 2015-12-16 22:44:32     copypaste       the internet works like a tree, if you take down the branches above everything below collapses
  2223. 2015-12-16 22:44:41     copypaste       cloiudflare's security works by obscuring the orign IP
  2224. 2015-12-16 22:44:45     copypaste       you know this
  2225. 2015-12-16 22:44:46     n-tech  yeah i am aware
  2226. 2015-12-16 22:44:50     n-tech  that's why I asked
  2227. 2015-12-16 22:44:54     n-tech  "is it ip based"
  2228. 2015-12-16 22:44:57     copypaste       so they took down our ISP
  2229. 2015-12-16 22:44:58     n-tech  I specifically claused my question
  2230. 2015-12-16 22:45:03     copypaste       oh, that's what you meant by ip based
  2231. 2015-12-16 22:45:03     n-tech  okay
  2232. 2015-12-16 22:45:06     copypaste       i didn't get it
  2233. 2015-12-16 22:45:07     copypaste       :3
  2234. 2015-12-16 22:45:36     copypaste       "The attack is starting again. Our people are analyzing the data now."
  2235. 2015-12-16 22:45:40     copypaste       this is the last thing they said
  2236. 2015-12-16 22:45:55     copypaste       of course those of us who are in the know know that this is bullshit and they are just waiting for them to stop packeting us
  2237. 2015-12-16 22:46:22     copypaste       even if a packet is rejected it still takes up space in the pipe
  2238. 2015-12-16 22:46:47     n-tech  I read up on all this during the gamerfood stuff
  2239. 2015-12-16 22:46:49     n-tech  this has a name
  2240. 2015-12-16 22:46:56     n-tech  I think Level 7 is what they called an Application Level attack
  2241. 2015-12-16 22:47:02     n-tech  meaning it's not bandwidth based but resource based
  2242. 2015-12-16 22:47:04     n-tech  and this is like
  2243. 2015-12-16 22:47:05     n-tech  level 3
  2244. 2015-12-16 22:47:11     n-tech  they had fancy designations for everything
  2245. 2015-12-16 22:47:28     copypaste       oh yes that's true
  2246. 2015-12-16 22:47:31     n-tech  and I *think* it goes up to Level 1 which is uh
  2247. 2015-12-16 22:47:31     copypaste       it's the OSI model
  2248. 2015-12-16 22:47:33     n-tech  backbone
  2249. 2015-12-16 22:47:36     n-tech  the internet has broken
  2250. 2015-12-16 22:47:36     n-tech  lol
  2251. 2015-12-16 22:47:44     copypaste       yea
  2252. 2015-12-16 22:47:57     copypaste       theoretically that could happen if you had half of the internet under your control
  2253. 2015-12-16 22:48:03     copypaste       you could target the other half and down everything worldwide
  2254. 2015-12-16 22:48:26     copypaste       just talking raw bandwidth capacity
  2255. 2015-12-16 22:48:27     n-tech  well I remember when Michael Jackson died, Google was hit so hard they immediately thought it was the biggest DDoS attack ever
  2256. 2015-12-16 22:48:35     copypaste       loll
  2257. 2015-12-16 22:48:41     copypaste       indeed
  2258. 2015-12-16 22:49:01     copypaste       in january i got super upset over this, but i am so over it
  2259. 2015-12-16 22:49:13     copypaste       i'm so calm a buddhist monk would be envious
  2260. 2015-12-16 22:50:25     copypaste       they just confirmed that it is our ISP under attack
  2261. 2015-12-16 22:50:39     copypaste       which we all knew since every network service fell offline at the same time
  2262. 2015-12-16 22:52:01     n-tech  Narrator: I wasn't really dying. I wasn't host to cancer or parasites. I was the warm little center that the life of this world crowded around.
  2263. 2015-12-16 22:54:52     n-tech  In the last week
  2264. 2015-12-16 22:54:55     n-tech  I've gotten 10 pull requests
  2265. 2015-12-16 22:55:01     n-tech  feelsgoodman
  2266. 2015-12-16 22:55:12     n-tech  they aren't shit eithr
  2267. 2015-12-16 22:55:17     n-tech  I've only had to correct one
  2268. 2015-12-16 22:57:21     copypaste       people are coming to terms with the love it or shove it mentality
  2269. 2015-12-16 22:57:25     copypaste       they are learning to love it
  2270. 2015-12-16 22:57:31     copypaste       i am a visionary (⌐■‿■)
  2271. 2015-12-16 22:58:47     n-tech  how this launches probably determines if I have to bounce back to the US or not
  2272. 2015-12-16 22:58:59     n-tech  I think if it goes well people will support Exodus and Next for longer
  2273. 2015-12-16 22:59:07     n-tech  if it crashes and burns I'm going to have to go back to the US
  2274. 2015-12-17 02:12:15     n-tech  so uh
  2275. 2015-12-17 02:12:18     n-tech  a thought occurs
  2276. 2015-12-17 02:12:23     n-tech  this import is slow.
  2277. 2015-12-17 02:12:52     n-tech  it runs on my VM (vm debian on windows with 16GiB RAM and 8 core intel i-whatever) at the speed of about ...
  2278. 2015-12-17 02:12:54     n-tech  oh i dont know
  2279. 2015-12-17 02:12:58     n-tech  10 posts a second
  2280. 2015-12-17 02:13:09     n-tech  and this is with php5-fpm
  2281. 2015-12-17 02:13:14     n-tech  but i mean like..
  2282. 2015-12-17 02:13:21     n-tech  i've been running for probably an hou
  2283. 2015-12-17 02:13:22     n-tech  hour
  2284. 2015-12-17 02:13:26     n-tech  and i'm only in /a.../
  2285. 2015-12-17 02:13:40     n-tech  unless this is significantly faster with more resources and php7
  2286. 2015-12-17 02:13:45     n-tech  we may have to freeze the site for hours
  2287. 2015-12-17 02:13:48     n-tech  unless?
  2288. 2015-12-17 02:13:53     n-tech  you said you can dupe the db
  2289. 2015-12-17 02:13:56     n-tech  or something
  2290. 2015-12-17 11:53:34     copypaste       what is it hanging on
  2291. 2015-12-17 14:08:58     n-tech  I refactored some code and now it goes at baout 100/s
  2292. 2015-12-17 14:19:22     n-tech  I have a task
  2293. 2015-12-17 14:19:35     n-tech  I think I might have this ready in the middle of the night
  2294. 2015-12-17 14:19:44     n-tech  is there any way you can get me a duplicate of the 8chan database?
  2295. 2015-12-17 14:19:46     n-tech  wait
  2296. 2015-12-17 14:19:47     n-tech  I have that
  2297. 2015-12-17 14:19:49     n-tech  i remember this
  2298. 2015-12-17 14:19:50     n-tech  we did this
  2299. 2015-12-17 14:28:13     n-tech  wait
  2300. 2015-12-17 14:28:14     n-tech  no
  2301. 2015-12-17 14:28:16     n-tech  this is just configs
  2302. 2015-12-17 15:43:59     copypaste       i thought i did as 8chanbak on troi01
  2303. 2015-12-17 15:44:06     copypaste       but then tables mysteriously were missing if you recall
  2304. 2015-12-17 15:44:16     n-tech  i don't remember this at all
  2305. 2015-12-17 15:44:17     copypaste       sorry, i just got home
  2306. 2015-12-17 15:44:26     copypaste       you don't?
  2307. 2015-12-17 15:44:30     copypaste       i was there when we did the first import
  2308. 2015-12-17 15:44:37     copypaste       and i was trying to figure out why my copy was missing tables
  2309. 2015-12-17 15:44:45     copypaste       and you're like "fuck it, let's just use the live DB"
  2310. 2015-12-17 15:44:47     copypaste       and then we did that
  2311. 2015-12-17 15:44:52     n-tech  oh that's right
  2312. 2015-12-17 15:44:55     n-tech  you used a hot copy or something
  2313. 2015-12-17 15:44:57     n-tech  and it didn't work
  2314. 2015-12-17 15:46:47     n-tech  btw is filehash just an md5?
  2315. 2015-12-17 15:46:51     n-tech  I can't find where it's defined
  2316. 2015-12-17 15:46:52     copypaste       yes
  2317. 2015-12-17 15:47:00     copypaste       i think so, it's defined somewhere in the code
  2318. 2015-12-17 15:47:16     n-tech                  if (count($post['files']) == 1) {
  2319. 2015-12-17 15:47:16     n-tech                          $post['filehash'] = $hash;
  2320. 2015-12-17 15:47:16     n-tech                  } else {
  2321. 2015-12-17 15:47:16     n-tech                          $post['filehash'] = md5($allhashes);
  2322. 2015-12-17 15:47:16     n-tech                  }
  2323. 2015-12-17 15:47:17     copypaste       the hash is only used for the 4chan API
  2324. 2015-12-17 15:47:18     n-tech  lol.
  2325. 2015-12-17 15:47:24     copypaste       yep
  2326. 2015-12-17 15:47:30     copypaste       it's a hash of all files together
  2327. 2015-12-17 15:47:33     copypaste       so if you replace the middle file
  2328. 2015-12-17 15:47:37     copypaste       it'll be different
  2329. 2015-12-17 15:47:40     copypaste       or even cahnge the orde
  2330. 2015-12-17 15:47:41     copypaste       r
  2331. 2015-12-17 15:47:51     copypaste       i recommend rehashing just to be safe
  2332. 2015-12-17 15:47:54     copypaste       MD5 is a very fast hash
  2333. 2015-12-18 16:03:28     copypaste       [ip removed]
  2334. 2015-12-18 16:03:32     copypaste       mysql -ujawsh -p[pw removed] 8chan -A
  2335. 2015-12-18 16:03:35     copypaste       is the command i tested
  2336. 2015-12-18 16:03:59     copypaste       confirm that and i'll move on to the more fiddly part
  2337. 2015-12-18 16:04:00     copypaste       the nfs
  2338. 2015-12-18 16:04:21     n-tech  what is the server name and what is this facilitating
  2339. 2015-12-18 16:04:28     n-tech  oh this is mysql
  2340. 2015-12-18 16:04:29     n-tech  durf
  2341. 2015-12-18 16:04:42     n-tech  am I just making a new db on the beta pgsql?
  2342. 2015-12-18 16:04:56     copypaste       yep yep
  2343. 2015-12-18 16:05:04     copypaste       ERROR 1142 (42000): INSERT command denied to user 'jawsh'@'localhost' for table 'users'
  2344. 2015-12-18 16:05:06     copypaste       lol
  2345. 2015-12-18 16:05:27     copypaste       if u need some other grants, i can give them
  2346. 2015-12-18 16:05:31     copypaste       i got the grants i gave u from so
  2347. 2015-12-18 16:05:39     copypaste       GRANT SELECT, SHOW VIEW, PROCESS, REPLICATION CLIENT
  2348. 2015-12-18 16:05:45     copypaste       on 8chan.*
  2349. 2015-12-18 16:05:46     copypaste       etc
  2350. 2015-12-18 16:07:52     copypaste       im going to put an alice in wonderland quote on the maintenance page
  2351. 2015-12-18 16:07:53     copypaste       just so u know
  2352. 2015-12-18 16:07:58     copypaste        “I wonder if I've been changed in the night. Let me think. Was I the same when I got up this morning? I almost think I can remember feeling a little different. But if I'm not the same, the next question is 'Who in the world am I?' Ah, that's the great puzzle!”
  2353. 2015-12-18 16:08:27     copypaste       the site is self-aware
  2354. 2015-12-18 16:08:27     n-tech  fitting, I have a quote too for when it's done
  2355. 2015-12-18 16:08:30     n-tech  lol
  2356. 2015-12-18 16:08:42     copypaste       alice in wonderland is greaet on acid
  2357. 2015-12-18 16:08:50     n-tech  the author would agree
  2358. 2015-12-18 16:13:11     n-tech  don't forget the link
  2359. 2015-12-18 16:13:12     n-tech  :---DDD
  2360. 2015-12-18 16:21:56     copypaste       at the risk of sounding stupid
  2361. 2015-12-18 16:22:04     copypaste       can you just tell me what server to mount to
  2362. 2015-12-18 16:22:06     copypaste       give me the login
  2363. 2015-12-18 16:22:09     copypaste       so i can do that
  2364. 2015-12-18 16:22:11     copypaste       i lost it
  2365. 2015-12-18 16:22:15     copypaste       i think it's troi08
  2366. 2015-12-18 16:22:18     copypaste       or troi05
  2367. 2015-12-18 16:22:19     copypaste       one of those
  2368. 2015-12-18 16:22:23     n-tech  for... php?
  2369. 2015-12-18 16:22:29     copypaste       wherever you want the files
  2370. 2015-12-18 16:22:39     copypaste       i think it's best to put them on php
  2371. 2015-12-18 16:22:44     copypaste       but it's up to you
  2372. 2015-12-18 16:22:58     copypaste       oh!
  2373. 2015-12-18 16:23:01     copypaste       php7 is released
  2374. 2015-12-18 16:23:11     copypaste       i should ugrade to 7.0.1, no?
  2375. 2015-12-18 16:23:11     n-tech  10.0.2.15
  2376. 2015-12-18 16:23:13     n-tech  is uh
  2377. 2015-12-18 16:23:17     n-tech  yeah
  2378. 2015-12-18 16:23:20     n-tech  probably a goo idea
  2379. 2015-12-18 16:23:21     copypaste       woah woah woah
  2380. 2015-12-18 16:23:22     copypaste       what's that
  2381. 2015-12-18 16:23:27     copypaste       should start with 206.223
  2382. 2015-12-18 16:23:28     n-tech  the IP? I think
  2383. 2015-12-18 16:23:41     copypaste       that's a local network ip
  2384. 2015-12-18 16:30:21     n-tech  sorry i got distracted by child birth
  2385. 2015-12-18 16:31:09     copypaste       lolwat
  2386. 2015-12-18 16:31:16     n-tech  in the synctube
  2387. 2015-12-18 16:31:26     n-tech  someone played a childbirth video
  2388. 2015-12-18 16:31:28     copypaste       oh, i don't have that open
  2389. 2015-12-18 16:31:30     copypaste       ew
  2390. 2015-12-18 16:31:34     copypaste       did you arleady advertise it?
  2391. 2015-12-18 16:31:52     n-tech  ye on beta
  2392. 2015-12-18 16:32:00     n-tech  [ip removed]
  2393. 2015-12-18 16:32:02     n-tech  troi05
  2394. 2015-12-18 16:34:08     copypaste       woah dude
  2395. 2015-12-18 16:34:13     copypaste       absolutely awesome placement of the password box
  2396. 2015-12-18 16:34:14     copypaste       i came
  2397. 2015-12-18 16:34:21     n-tech  what password box
  2398. 2015-12-18 16:34:25     copypaste       for posts
  2399. 2015-12-18 16:34:38     n-tech  oh ye
  2400. 2015-12-18 16:34:41     n-tech  i had to think hard on that
  2401. 2015-12-18 16:34:44     n-tech  it was stumping me
  2402. 2015-12-18 16:34:47     n-tech  cuz like
  2403. 2015-12-18 16:34:52     n-tech  author and subject fields aren't always there
  2404. 2015-12-18 16:34:58     n-tech  but most people don't deal with passwords anyways
  2405. 2015-12-18 16:35:50     copypaste       yeah but those who do get really upset when they can't
  2406. 2015-12-18 16:36:02     n-tech  i dont blame them, because on vichan
  2407. 2015-12-18 16:36:04     n-tech  you can literally do
  2408. 2015-12-18 16:36:16     n-tech  select * (all boards) where password=''
  2409. 2015-12-18 16:36:23     n-tech  and it's basically a tracking cookie
  2410. 2015-12-18 16:36:30     copypaste       yee
  2411. 2015-12-18 16:37:32     copypaste       ok i need ten minutes
  2412. 2015-12-18 16:37:39     copypaste       perhaps twenty if i fuck up
  2413. 2015-12-18 16:37:46     copypaste       this NFS stuff is a bit complicated
  2414. 2015-12-18 16:37:51     n-tech  alright
  2415. 2015-12-18 16:38:03     copypaste       also i absolutely want to upgrade php
  2416. 2015-12-18 16:38:07     copypaste       before we go live
  2417. 2015-12-18 16:38:15     n-tech  I was gonna say, 10 minutes to make 7.0.1?
  2418. 2015-12-18 16:38:28     copypaste       maybe it'll take hat long to compile
  2419. 2015-12-18 16:38:34     copypaste       hopefully the config hasn't changed
  2420. 2015-12-18 16:42:33     copypaste       configuring 7.0.1
  2421. 2015-12-18 16:43:55     copypaste       building
  2422. 2015-12-18 16:54:25     copypaste       we had an outdated oniguruma library
  2423. 2015-12-18 16:54:32     copypaste       i updated to oniguruma5 (it was v2, wtf)
  2424. 2015-12-18 16:54:34     copypaste       works now
  2425. 2015-12-18 16:54:41     copypaste       somehow we had a version of oniguruma from 2003
  2426. 2015-12-18 16:54:49     copypaste       and somehow that worked with 7.0RC7 but not 7.0.1
  2427. 2015-12-18 16:54:51     copypaste       wat
  2428. 2015-12-18 16:56:50     copypaste       done
  2429. 2015-12-18 16:56:51     copypaste       PHP 7.0.1 (cli) (built: Dec 18 2015 08:53:33) ( NTS )
  2430. 2015-12-18 16:56:57     copypaste       lots of thumbnails seem broken
  2431. 2015-12-18 16:56:58     copypaste       tho
  2432. 2015-12-18 16:57:40     copypaste       i got an X-Powered-By: PHP/7.0.1
  2433. 2015-12-18 16:57:41     copypaste       so it worked
  2434. 2015-12-18 16:58:26     copypaste       waiting for you to reply about thumbnails before continuing
  2435. 2015-12-18 16:59:06     copypaste       actually all files seem broken
  2436. 2015-12-18 16:59:07     copypaste       http://beta.8ch.net/next/file/32713/posting_guide_infinity_next.png
  2437. 2015-12-18 17:05:54     n-tech  not for me
  2438. 2015-12-18 17:06:05     n-tech  works fine
  2439. 2015-12-18 17:06:09     n-tech  make sure your cache isn't off
  2440. 2015-12-18 17:06:15     copypaste       ctrl shift r
  2441. 2015-12-18 17:06:16     copypaste       i get 404
  2442. 2015-12-18 17:07:22     copypaste       http://i.imgur.com/3RaV4cS.png
  2443. 2015-12-18 17:08:29     n-tech  loads fine for me.
  2444. 2015-12-18 17:08:42     n-tech  even in a different browser i get a correct response
  2445. 2015-12-18 17:09:00     copypaste       ok i don't know why but if it's just me
  2446. 2015-12-18 17:09:03     copypaste       i'm happy to ignore it
  2447. 2015-12-18 17:10:08     copypaste       seems weird though that i'd get an nginx 404
  2448. 2015-12-18 17:10:12     copypaste       and not some browser error
  2449. 2015-12-18 17:11:27     copypaste       even changing the url or going to completely different boards doewn't work
  2450. 2015-12-18 17:12:32     copypaste       i cant see this imag i just uploaded
  2451. 2015-12-18 17:12:33     copypaste       http://beta.8ch.net/test/file/thumb/32748/Untitled.png
  2452. 2015-12-18 17:12:35     copypaste       maybe you can
  2453. 2015-12-18 17:12:43     copypaste       it shows IE, a browser i never use and it not working
  2454. 2015-12-18 17:13:46     n-tech  jews can see these images but someone else cant
  2455. 2015-12-18 17:14:12     n-tech  wait yeah i can reproduce it
  2456. 2015-12-18 17:16:34     copypaste       ok, let me know if you need my help
  2457. 2015-12-18 17:16:43     copypaste       i tried to do a clean upgrade
  2458. 2015-12-18 17:20:56     n-tech  we all set then? where is the 8chan root located from t5?
  2459. 2015-12-18 17:21:57     copypaste       uh
  2460. 2015-12-18 17:22:01     copypaste       you're not going to fix this?
  2461. 2015-12-18 17:22:09     copypaste       i don't think we swhould open it with all imagees 404ing
  2462. 2015-12-18 17:22:22     n-tech  it's an nginx error i think, im looking around
  2463. 2015-12-18 17:22:28     n-tech  i moved 8ch.net/next to 8ch.net/beta
  2464. 2015-12-18 17:22:38     copypaste       ok, i'll mount while you do that
  2465. 2015-12-18 17:22:42     copypaste       just i don't tihnk we should close 8chan
  2466. 2015-12-18 17:22:44     copypaste       until this is fixed
  2467. 2015-12-18 17:22:47     copypaste       less to do during migration
  2468. 2015-12-18 17:23:03     copypaste       do you want me come over so we can communicate better
  2469. 2015-12-18 17:23:07     copypaste       or is this fine
  2470. 2015-12-18 17:23:23     n-tech  nah this is fine, i was just making tacos waiting for you
  2471. 2015-12-18 17:23:26     n-tech  i'm settled now
  2472. 2015-12-18 17:23:39     copypaste       k
  2473. 2015-12-18 17:28:55     copypaste       sweet
  2474. 2015-12-18 17:28:56     copypaste       first time
  2475. 2015-12-18 17:29:03     copypaste       8chan is on /srv/http on troi05
  2476. 2015-12-18 17:29:05     copypaste       full r/w
  2477. 2015-12-18 17:29:09     copypaste       please please -please- be careful
  2478. 2015-12-18 17:29:17     copypaste       i recommend making a /srv/storage
  2479. 2015-12-18 17:29:18     copypaste       for laravel
  2480. 2015-12-18 17:29:22     copypaste       and only writing to that folder
  2481. 2015-12-18 17:29:24     copypaste       links etc
  2482. 2015-12-18 17:29:36     copypaste       the RAID is on /srv/ so you have the whole disk
  2483. 2015-12-18 17:29:48     n-tech  sweet
  2484. 2015-12-18 17:30:06     copypaste       please note how the 'b', 'v' folders etc work
  2485. 2015-12-18 17:30:13     copypaste       they are symlinks to /boards/v__
  2486. 2015-12-18 17:30:19     copypaste       so you'll be creating a link to a link
  2487. 2015-12-18 17:30:21     copypaste       which should work fine
  2488. 2015-12-18 17:33:37     n-tech  okay the thumbnailing issue is fixed I believe
  2489. 2015-12-18 17:33:45     n-tech  let me setup some more stuff
  2490. 2015-12-18 17:33:47     n-tech  I'll run a test
  2491. 2015-12-18 17:34:10     copypaste       yep http://beta.8ch.net/test/file/thumb/32748/wew.png loads
  2492. 2015-12-18 17:34:12     copypaste       cloudflare cached some 404
  2493. 2015-12-18 17:34:24     n-tech  THANKS cloudflare
  2494. 2015-12-18 17:34:27     copypaste       but that's ok, when we go live ill clear cloudflare's whole cache of the domain
  2495. 2015-12-18 17:34:36     n-tech  in the sync someone googled "fuck you josh"
  2496. 2015-12-18 17:34:37     copypaste       since it's all invalidated
  2497. 2015-12-18 17:34:39     n-tech  and has listed like
  2498. 2015-12-18 17:34:43     n-tech  100 videos of just random people saying
  2499. 2015-12-18 17:34:46     n-tech  FUCK YOU JOSH
  2500. 2015-12-18 17:34:46     n-tech  lol
  2501. 2015-12-18 17:34:49     copypaste       lmao
  2502. 2015-12-18 17:54:19     n-tech  Okay
  2503. 2015-12-18 17:54:26     n-tech  there is now a /srv/8ch.net/next/storage/app
  2504. 2015-12-18 17:54:36     n-tech  that will be the shared point for files between any php nodes
  2505. 2015-12-18 17:54:40     n-tech  it mirrors the regular directory
  2506. 2015-12-18 17:55:08     n-tech  but uh
  2507. 2015-12-18 17:55:08     copypaste       cool
  2508. 2015-12-18 17:55:10     n-tech  I dunno
  2509. 2015-12-18 17:55:13     n-tech  I dunno what else I can test
  2510. 2015-12-18 17:55:18     n-tech  sql connection works
  2511. 2015-12-18 17:55:20     copypaste       ok, we ready then?
  2512. 2015-12-18 17:55:22     n-tech  let me check the sql connection to target
  2513. 2015-12-18 17:55:26     copypaste       k
  2514. 2015-12-18 17:57:24     n-tech  Okay. Lets do it
  2515. 2015-12-18 17:57:45     copypaste       ok. give me a few minutes to put the final touches on the maintenance page
  2516. 2015-12-18 17:57:48     copypaste       i want it to be ebin
  2517. 2015-12-18 18:09:07     n-tech  almost ready?
  2518. 2015-12-18 18:09:17     copypaste       yeah i haven't done maintenance ont roi12 yet
  2519. 2015-12-18 18:09:23     copypaste       i'm sorry i thought i had a config ready to plugin
  2520. 2015-12-18 18:14:26     copypaste       8chan is down
  2521. 2015-12-18 18:14:33     copypaste       http://8ch.net/b/
  2522. 2015-12-18 18:14:39     n-tech  and here, we, go
  2523. 2015-12-18 18:16:11     n-tech  It's running
  2524. 2015-12-18 18:30:20     n-tech                  Made 0 post(s) for /9kant0/.
  2525. 2015-12-18 18:30:22     n-tech                  Importing posts from /9md9/
  2526. 2015-12-18 18:30:26     n-tech                          Importing 200 more posts ...
  2527. 2015-12-18 18:30:28     n-tech                          Made 3 post(s) for /9md9/.
  2528. 2015-12-18 18:30:30     n-tech                  Importing posts from /9spam/
  2529. 2015-12-18 18:30:32     n-tech                          Importing 200 more posts ...
  2530. 2015-12-18 18:30:34     n-tech                          Made 45 post(s) for /9spam/.
  2531. 2015-12-18 18:30:36     n-tech                  Importing posts from /9th/
  2532. 2015-12-18 18:30:38     n-tech                          Made 0 post(s) for /9th/.
  2533. 2015-12-18 18:30:40     n-tech                  Importing posts from /a/
  2534. 2015-12-18 18:30:42     n-tech                          Importing 200 more posts ...
  2535. 2015-12-18 18:30:44     n-tech                          Importing 200 more posts ...
  2536. 2015-12-18 18:30:46     n-tech                          Importing 200 more posts ...
  2537. 2015-12-18 18:30:48     n-tech                          Importing 200 more posts ...
  2538. 2015-12-18 18:30:50     n-tech                          Importing 200 more posts ...
  2539. 2015-12-18 18:30:52     n-tech                          Importing 200 more posts ...
  2540. 2015-12-18 18:30:56     n-tech                          Importing 200 more posts ...
  2541. 2015-12-18 18:30:58     n-tech                          Importing 200 more posts ...
  2542. 2015-12-18 18:31:00     n-tech  the absolute madman
  2543. 2015-12-18 18:31:18     copypaste       nice
  2544. 2015-12-18 18:31:19     copypaste       :D
  2545. 2015-12-18 18:33:05     copypaste       im making inflammatory posts in the thread
  2546. 2015-12-18 18:33:07     copypaste       lmao
  2547. 2015-12-18 19:03:54     n-tech  remind me what my login details are
  2548. 2015-12-18 19:03:55     n-tech  the ssh thnig
  2549. 2015-12-18 19:04:00     n-tech  i've been signing in by doing
  2550. 2015-12-18 19:04:03     n-tech  up+enter
  2551. 2015-12-18 19:04:05     n-tech  for so long
  2552. 2015-12-18 19:04:06     n-tech  i forgot
  2553. 2015-12-18 19:04:06     n-tech  lol
  2554. 2015-12-18 19:04:23     n-tech  like i have to do "ssh xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx -l admin"
  2555. 2015-12-18 19:04:24     n-tech  or something
  2556. 2015-12-18 19:52:51     copypaste       sorry my intrnet died
  2557. 2015-12-18 19:52:58     copypaste       for what machine?
  2558. 2015-12-18 19:53:55     n-tech  the php one
  2559. 2015-12-18 19:53:56     n-tech  5
  2560. 2015-12-18 19:54:07     copypaste       [ip removed]
  2561. 2015-12-18 19:54:09     copypaste       user is admin
  2562. 2015-12-18 19:54:11     copypaste       pw is...
  2563. 2015-12-18 19:54:19     copypaste       [pw removed]
  2564. 2015-12-18 19:54:22     copypaste       for admin/root
  2565. 2015-12-18 19:54:26     copypaste       use `su` to get root
  2566. 2015-12-18 19:54:29     copypaste       you can't ssh as root@
  2567. 2015-12-18 19:54:33     copypaste       that should be all you need
  2568. 2015-12-18 19:54:36     copypaste       ssh runs on default port
  2569. 2015-12-18 21:14:52     copypaste       hows it going?
  2570. 2015-12-18 21:40:43     n-tech          Importing posts from /tripe/
  2571. 2015-12-18 21:40:43     n-tech                          Made 0 post(s) for /tripe/.
  2572. 2015-12-18 21:40:44     n-tech                  Importing posts from /tripfag/
  2573. 2015-12-18 21:40:44     n-tech                          Importing 200 more posts ...
  2574. 2015-12-18 21:40:44     n-tech                          Made 5 post(s) for /tripfag/.
  2575. 2015-12-18 21:40:44     n-tech                  Importing posts from /tripfags/
  2576. 2015-12-18 21:40:46     n-tech                          Importing 200 more posts ...
  2577. 2015-12-18 21:40:48     n-tech                          Importing 200 more posts ...
  2578. 2015-12-18 21:40:50     n-tech                          Importing 200 more posts ...
  2579. 2015-12-18 21:40:52     n-tech  slower than I would have wanted
  2580. 2015-12-18 21:40:54     n-tech  I'm glad I took time to try and smooth over things
  2581. 2015-12-18 21:40:56     n-tech  or this would have been going much slower
  2582. 2015-12-18 21:41:01     n-tech  I had to freeze the beta to free up cpu
  2583. 2015-12-19 03:59:56     n-tech  http://i.imgur.com/wChnmg7.png
  2584. 2015-12-19 03:59:56     n-tech  wew
  2585. 2015-12-19 04:09:45     copypaste       wew
  2586. 2015-12-19 04:12:35     n-tech  You're still up?
  2587. 2015-12-19 04:25:03     copypaste       yeah i can't sleep with something this important going on
  2588. 2015-12-19 04:25:05     copypaste       just let me knwo
  2589. 2015-12-19 04:25:10     copypaste       i took a nap
  2590. 2015-12-19 10:22:29     n-tech  Let me know when you're up.
  2591. 2015-12-19 10:49:22     copypaste       hi
  2592. 2015-12-19 10:49:41     n-tech  The last problem I can't do myself. I don't understand the permissions or symlinks well enough to trace it down.
  2593. 2015-12-19 10:49:53     n-tech  It has to deal with creating files, not just linking them
  2594. 2015-12-19 10:49:55     n-tech  the links work fine
  2595. 2015-12-19 10:50:02     n-tech    [Intervention\Image\Exception\NotReadableException]                                                
  2596. 2015-12-19 10:50:03     n-tech    Unable to read image from file (/var/www/8ch.net/next/storage/app/attachments/full/5/6/e/b/56eb4e8  
  2597. 2015-12-19 10:50:03     n-tech    32cf474e8087d99c4fc462692).                                                                        
  2598. 2015-12-19 10:50:20     n-tech  If I run the import script as www it will create the file with the proper permissions ut 0 filesize
  2599. 2015-12-19 10:50:37     n-tech  I think that's because it can't read /srv/http/static/banners/0chain/132121321.png
  2600. 2015-12-19 10:50:40     n-tech  which is what it's trying to import
  2601. 2015-12-19 10:50:47     n-tech  but I've even changed the permissions for that
  2602. 2015-12-19 10:50:52     n-tech  so I have no idea what could cause that issue
  2603. 2015-12-19 10:50:56     copypaste       service
  2604. 2015-12-19 10:50:58     copypaste       is the user
  2605. 2015-12-19 10:51:14     n-tech  yea but when PHP wants to read or write it has to go through php
  2606. 2015-12-19 10:51:26     copypaste       you can change the user php uses
  2607. 2015-12-19 10:51:29     copypaste       pretty easily
  2608. 2015-12-19 10:51:41     copypaste       you can't write to NFS as anything but service
  2609. 2015-12-19 10:51:42     copypaste       or root
  2610. 2015-12-19 10:51:46     n-tech  but then nginx and php will have different users unless you want to change that too
  2611. 2015-12-19 10:51:50     n-tech  oh
  2612. 2015-12-19 10:51:53     n-tech  that would do it
  2613. 2015-12-19 10:52:11     n-tech  okay so "service:service"?
  2614. 2015-12-19 10:52:14     copypaste       i can change both
  2615. 2015-12-19 10:52:23     copypaste       yea
  2616. 2015-12-19 10:52:24     copypaste       for chown
  2617. 2015-12-19 10:52:31     n-tech  Do you know a fast way to chmod everything to that?
  2618. 2015-12-19 10:52:36     copypaste       chown -
  2619. 2015-12-19 10:52:41     copypaste       chown -R service:service .
  2620. 2015-12-19 10:52:41     n-tech  ye
  2621. 2015-12-19 10:52:42     n-tech  that one
  2622. 2015-12-19 10:52:44     n-tech  i mix tem up
  2623. 2015-12-19 10:52:47     n-tech  that times out
  2624. 2015-12-19 10:52:53     copypaste       on what?
  2625. 2015-12-19 10:52:54     n-tech  maybe it's much faster when not issued through t5
  2626. 2015-12-19 10:52:59     copypaste       don't run it on nfs
  2627. 2015-12-19 10:52:59     n-tech  the chown
  2628. 2015-12-19 10:53:09     n-tech  toooooo late
  2629. 2015-12-19 10:53:49     n-tech  /srv/http/static/banners/ /srv/http/static/custom-flags/ /srv/8ch.net/, recursive
  2630. 2015-12-19 10:53:59     n-tech  that on NFS and I'll run it on /var/www/
  2631. 2015-12-19 10:54:17     copypaste       everything in /srv/http is already owned by service
  2632. 2015-12-19 10:54:30     n-tech  I ran it on those specific directories
  2633. 2015-12-19 10:54:38     copypaste       hmm
  2634. 2015-12-19 10:55:15     n-tech  service is an "illegal group name"
  2635. 2015-12-19 10:55:29     copypaste       ok i've got it
  2636. 2015-12-19 10:55:33     n-tech  is it just "service" and not "service:service"
  2637. 2015-12-19 10:55:41     copypaste       service on troi12 isn't the same as service on troi06
  2638. 2015-12-19 10:55:47     copypaste       it has to be UID and GID 1000
  2639. 2015-12-19 10:55:53     copypaste       service is just an alias
  2640. 2015-12-19 10:56:00     copypaste       i have to make a user/group service as 1000
  2641. 2015-12-19 10:56:03     copypaste       then it will workj
  2642. 2015-12-19 10:56:09     copypaste       when i run `ls` on troi06 on that banners dir
  2643. 2015-12-19 10:56:13     copypaste       (which who knows why changed)
  2644. 2015-12-19 10:56:19     copypaste       it says GID 80
  2645. 2015-12-19 10:56:28     copypaste       erm, no UID 80 GID 2
  2646. 2015-12-19 10:56:46     n-tech  Okay, let me know when it's set up. I think I'm nearing 3 days of being awake at this point
  2647. 2015-12-19 10:57:13     n-tech  Once uploads work there's one other thing but I'm not going to mention it til this is sorted out, they might be the same problem
  2648. 2015-12-19 10:58:04     copypaste       try using
  2649. 2015-12-19 10:58:08     copypaste       chown -R 1000:1000 .
  2650. 2015-12-19 10:58:10     copypaste       that should work
  2651. 2015-12-19 10:58:34     copypaste       service:x:1000:1000:service,,,:/home/service:/bin/bash
  2652. 2015-12-19 10:58:37     copypaste       that's on troi06
  2653. 2015-12-19 10:59:23     n-tech  don't forget nginx and php need the group changes too
  2654. 2015-12-19 10:59:33     copypaste       yeah
  2655. 2015-12-19 11:01:17     copypaste       service:*:1000:1000:8chan System Services:/home/service:/usr/local/bin/bash
  2656. 2015-12-19 11:01:21     copypaste       done added to /etc/passwd
  2657. 2015-12-19 11:01:23     copypaste       on troi05
  2658. 2015-12-19 11:01:55     copypaste       Uid (Leave empty for default): 1000
  2659. 2015-12-19 11:01:57     copypaste       this is the key step
  2660. 2015-12-19 11:02:07     copypaste       don't be upset, i had same problem before ecept even harder to figure out
  2661. 2015-12-19 11:02:14     copypaste       troi06 had service as uid 1000
  2662. 2015-12-19 11:02:22     copypaste       troi-something had servcie as uid 1002
  2663. 2015-12-19 11:02:28     copypaste       in `ls` both were `service`
  2664. 2015-12-19 11:02:41     copypaste       then i learned service isn't actually what's stored, the uid/gid number is
  2665. 2015-12-19 11:02:56     copypaste       unix hell
  2666. 2015-12-19 11:02:59     n-tech  i'm not upset i just want to see it work
  2667. 2015-12-19 11:02:59     n-tech  https://github.com/infinity-next/infinity-next/commits/master
  2668. 2015-12-19 11:03:06     n-tech  i've been at this for .. 20 hours? it says
  2669. 2015-12-19 11:04:07     copypaste       nginx and php are changed to service
  2670. 2015-12-19 11:04:09     copypaste       and restarted
  2671. 2015-12-19 11:04:14     copypaste       service = uid/gid 1000
  2672. 2015-12-19 11:04:18     copypaste       everything should working now
  2673. 2015-12-19 11:04:26     copypaste       at least, after you do chown -R
  2674. 2015-12-19 11:15:04     n-tech  mate can you please do that command on whatever box hosts the /srv/
  2675. 2015-12-19 11:15:08     n-tech  it's slow as fuck
  2676. 2015-12-19 11:15:17     n-tech  i need everything in /srv/8ch.net and below on service
  2677. 2015-12-19 11:15:22     copypaste       sure but there is no guarantee it will be faster
  2678. 2015-12-19 11:15:25     copypaste       i'll try
  2679. 2015-12-19 11:15:36     copypaste       if there's a lot of files
  2680. 2015-12-19 11:15:38     copypaste       you know how ti is
  2681. 2015-12-19 11:15:52     n-tech  [email protected]:/var/www/8ch.net/next # chown -R 1000:1000 /srv/8ch.net
  2682. 2015-12-19 11:15:52     n-tech  ^Cnewnfs server [ip removed]:/export/http: not responding
  2683. 2015-12-19 11:16:14     n-tech  that's after like 10 minutes
  2684. 2015-12-19 11:16:33     copypaste       it's running, no output for the moment
  2685. 2015-12-19 11:47:58     n-tech  I declare this a disaster.
  2686. 2015-12-19 11:48:00     n-tech  ErrorException: file_put_contents(): Exclusive locks are not supported for this stream
  2687. 2015-12-19 11:48:08     n-tech    [Intervention\Image\Exception\NotReadableException]                                                
  2688. 2015-12-19 11:48:08     n-tech    Unable to read image from file (/srv/8ch.net/next/storage/app/attachments/full/5/6/e/b/56eb4e832cf  
  2689. 2015-12-19 11:48:08     n-tech    474e8087d99c4fc462692).                                                                            
  2690. 2015-12-19 11:50:19     n-tech  I have absolutely no idea what I can do from here. There's too much data and the disks move too slowly.
  2691. 2015-12-19 11:50:22     n-tech  Anything involves hours of work.
  2692. 2015-12-19 11:59:05     n-tech  OKAY DUDE
  2693. 2015-12-19 11:59:06     n-tech  i got it
  2694. 2015-12-19 11:59:09     n-tech  I just need the fucking
  2695. 2015-12-19 11:59:10     n-tech  permissions fixed
  2696. 2015-12-19 11:59:14     n-tech  holy shit why is this so slow
  2697. 2015-12-19 11:59:17     n-tech  why does chown time out
  2698. 2015-12-19 11:59:20     n-tech  how is that even possible
  2699. 2015-12-19 12:14:08     copypaste       it's on "b"
  2700. 2015-12-19 12:14:11     copypaste       there's nothing to do but wait
  2701. 2015-12-19 12:15:04     n-tech  A lot of documents are taking 30 seconds to load now too
  2702. 2015-12-19 12:15:12     n-tech  I really hope that's because other things are happening
  2703. 2015-12-19 12:15:20     copypaste       maybe https://github.com/laravel/framework/issues/372
  2704. 2015-12-19 12:15:22     n-tech  and it doesn't take 30 seconds to interact with the raid
  2705. 2015-12-19 12:15:40     n-tech  Yes, your RAID drive does not support exclusive locking
  2706. 2015-12-19 12:15:45     copypaste       lol
  2707. 2015-12-19 12:15:46     copypaste       nfs doesn't
  2708. 2015-12-19 12:15:53     n-tech  i've had to edit vendor files to remove this
  2709. 2015-12-19 12:15:55     copypaste       has nothing to do with the drive
  2710. 2015-12-19 12:15:56     copypaste       ok
  2711. 2015-12-19 12:16:17     n-tech  and I'm going to have to write a permanent fix which involves overwriting PHP files just to remove that option so I won't have to
  2712. 2015-12-19 12:16:24     n-tech  but this is insane, I really hope once it settles it's faster
  2713. 2015-12-19 12:16:47     copypaste       it is kind of weird how slow it is even with no load
  2714. 2015-12-19 12:17:29     n-tech  give me your public IP
  2715. 2015-12-19 12:19:04     copypaste       huh
  2716. 2015-12-19 12:19:09     copypaste       what public ip
  2717. 2015-12-19 12:19:15     n-tech  whatismyipaddress.com
  2718. 2015-12-19 12:19:17     copypaste       why
  2719. 2015-12-19 12:19:23     n-tech  so i can whitelist you
  2720. 2015-12-19 12:19:36     copypaste       [ip removed]
  2721. 2015-12-19 12:19:38     copypaste       it's dynamic though
  2722. 2015-12-19 12:19:46     copypaste       best to whitelist [ip removed]/16
  2723. 2015-12-19 12:20:08     n-tech  https://beta.8ch.net/
  2724. 2015-12-19 12:20:17     n-tech  the front page takes about 30 seconds to load. some pages take about the same.
  2725. 2015-12-19 12:20:26     n-tech  once it's cached and doesn't have to ask the NFS if something exists
  2726. 2015-12-19 12:20:30     copypaste       that doesn't make sense, what else is that RAID being used for
  2727. 2015-12-19 12:20:31     n-tech  it loads in about 200~300ms
  2728. 2015-12-19 12:20:35     copypaste       i thought we weren't using filesystem cache
  2729. 2015-12-19 12:20:39     n-tech  we aren't
  2730. 2015-12-19 12:20:42     copypaste       it could be because NFS is overloaded
  2731. 2015-12-19 12:20:47     copypaste       with the shit it's doing
  2732. 2015-12-19 12:20:47     n-tech  It's doing this
  2733. 2015-12-19 12:20:52     n-tech  Storage::exists(path)
  2734. 2015-12-19 12:20:54     n-tech  yea
  2735. 2015-12-19 12:20:56     n-tech  that's what i'm hoping
  2736. 2015-12-19 12:21:00     copypaste       i hope so too
  2737. 2015-12-19 12:21:27     copypaste       what path does it need to know btw?
  2738. 2015-12-19 12:21:33     copypaste       also lol all those zirconium
  2739. 2015-12-19 12:21:35     copypaste       so ebin
  2740. 2015-12-19 12:21:52     n-tech  it pulled in attachments by board so /zirconium/ was the last one to import
  2741. 2015-12-19 12:21:59     n-tech  any attachments at least
  2742. 2015-12-19 12:22:02     copypaste       yee
  2743. 2015-12-19 12:22:23     copypaste       boards.html is whitepag
  2744. 2015-12-19 12:22:23     copypaste       e
  2745. 2015-12-19 12:25:04     n-tech  i don't know.
  2746. 2015-12-19 12:25:12     n-tech  i've been up for 3 days straight now. i am at limited capacity.
  2747. 2015-12-19 12:25:46     copypaste       the chown is at fdd
  2748. 2015-12-19 12:25:56     n-tech  thumb or full
  2749. 2015-12-19 12:26:04     copypaste       not sure
  2750. 2015-12-19 12:26:17     copypaste       it's doing it out of order
  2751. 2015-12-19 12:26:18     copypaste       looks like
  2752. 2015-12-19 12:56:07     copypaste       how about you take a nap?
  2753. 2015-12-19 12:56:15     copypaste       i'll update the page with a full description of the problem
  2754. 2015-12-19 12:56:20     copypaste       and call you when chown is done
  2755. 2015-12-19 12:57:24     n-tech  yeah that'll work
  2756. 2015-12-19 13:12:17     n-tech  is that you on my landline
  2757. 2015-12-19 13:12:25     n-tech  i dont even know why i keep the fucking thing plugged in
  2758. 2015-12-19 15:25:09     n-tech  It's up and imported
  2759. 2015-12-19 15:25:16     n-tech  but it's still slow
  2760. 2015-12-19 15:25:23     copypaste       gotta figure out why slow
  2761. 2015-12-19 15:25:27     copypaste       i just got a 504 timeout
  2762. 2015-12-19 15:25:31     copypaste       something is blocking
  2763. 2015-12-19 15:38:19     n-tech  it's the posts table
  2764. 2015-12-19 15:38:28     n-tech  any query hitting it takes 400ms
  2765. 2015-12-19 15:38:54     n-tech  I have the asme issue locally, the migration's dealing with fks must not be correct
  2766. 2015-12-19 15:47:17     n-tech  dunno what to do.
  2767. 2015-12-19 15:47:23     n-tech  this shit is super fast and now it's not
  2768. 2015-12-19 15:47:29     n-tech  anything hitting the posts table locks up
  2769. 2015-12-19 15:55:15     n-tech  Any ideas? I'm completely stumped.
  2770. 2015-12-19 15:58:55     copypaste       i have a feeling it's due to the size of the dataset
  2771. 2015-12-19 15:59:06     copypaste       before you were querying over only a few hundred posts
  2772. 2015-12-19 15:59:10     copypaste       you've increased it a lot
  2773. 2015-12-19 15:59:24     copypaste       does psql run at 100% cpu?
  2774. 2015-12-19 15:59:28     n-tech  but these queries are not complicated
  2775. 2015-12-19 15:59:44     copypaste       ┐('~`;)┌
  2776. 2015-12-19 15:59:53     copypaste       i don't know any better than you would
  2777. 2015-12-19 16:00:00     copypaste       that's just a theory that could be wrong
  2778. 2015-12-19 16:01:18     copypaste       http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13234812/improving-query-speed-simple-select-in-big-postgres-table
  2779. 2015-12-19 16:01:20     copypaste       this could help
  2780. 2015-12-19 16:01:24     copypaste       does the DB have any indexes?
  2781. 2015-12-19 16:01:28     copypaste       try adding some
  2782. 2015-12-19 16:01:58     n-tech  yes.
  2783. 2015-12-19 16:02:06     n-tech  all the tables are very well optomized
  2784. 2015-12-19 16:02:10     n-tech  this is literally like a
  2785. 2015-12-19 16:02:27     n-tech  18000% increase in query times
  2786. 2015-12-19 16:06:58     copypaste       does psql have an EXPLAIN?
  2787. 2015-12-19 16:07:12     copypaste       http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.1/static/sql-explain.html
  2788. 2015-12-19 16:07:13     copypaste       yes it does
  2789. 2015-12-19 16:07:18     copypaste       try that on the query
  2790. 2015-12-19 16:07:34     copypaste       make sure your indexes are being used and so on
  2791. 2015-12-19 16:07:44     copypaste       there's not much more advice i can give
  2792. 2015-12-19 16:08:27     n-tech   Limit  (cost=0.00..404.39 rows=16 width=609)
  2793. 2015-12-19 16:08:27     n-tech     ->  Index Scan Backward using posts_pkey on posts  (cost=0.00..12369383.27 rows=489399 width=609)
  2794. 2015-12-19 16:08:27     n-tech           Filter: ((deleted_at IS NULL) AND (body <> ''::text) AND ((SubPlan 1) >= 1))
  2795. 2015-12-19 16:08:27     n-tech           SubPlan 1
  2796. 2015-12-19 16:08:27     n-tech             ->  Aggregate  (cost=8.27..8.28 rows=1 width=0)
  2797. 2015-12-19 16:08:27     n-tech                   ->  Index Scan using boards_pkey on boards  (cost=0.00..8.27 rows=1 width=0)
  2798. 2015-12-19 16:08:29     n-tech                         Index Cond: ((posts.board_uri)::text = (board_uri)::text)
  2799. 2015-12-19 16:08:31     n-tech                         Filter: (is_indexed AND is_overboard)
  2800. 2015-12-19 16:09:23     copypaste       woah
  2801. 2015-12-19 16:09:29     copypaste       0.00..12369383.27
  2802. 2015-12-19 16:10:19     copypaste       if you give me the query, the table layouts, and that output in a ghostbin
  2803. 2015-12-19 16:10:23     copypaste       i can try to show it to johann
  2804. 2015-12-19 16:10:29     copypaste       if you think that will help
  2805. 2015-12-19 16:10:43     copypaste       SHOW CREATE TABLE (or the psql equivalent) is best
  2806. 2015-12-19 16:11:08     n-tech  http://pastebin.com/3CzVR3Ae
  2807. 2015-12-19 16:11:16     n-tech  oh
  2808. 2015-12-19 16:11:44     copypaste       is 456 ms really that slow?
  2809. 2015-12-19 16:12:10     n-tech  http://pastebin.com/SrLY7w2M
  2810. 2015-12-19 16:12:19     n-tech  Yes, considering that it used to be ~1ms.
  2811. 2015-12-19 16:12:30     copypaste       ye
  2812. 2015-12-19 16:16:13     copypaste       he doesn't seem to be around
  2813. 2015-12-19 16:21:42     copypaste       he appeared
  2814. 2015-12-19 16:21:46     copypaste       post the EXPLAIN ANALYZEZ
  2815. 2015-12-19 16:21:48     copypaste       post the EXPLAIN ANALYZE
  2816. 2015-12-19 16:22:18     copypaste       EXPLAIN ANALYZE SELECT
  2817. 2015-12-19 16:23:26     n-tech  http://pastebin.com/Hw8D3z94
  2818. 2015-12-19 16:31:36     n-tech  No word?
  2819. 2015-12-19 16:31:49     copypaste       he answered
  2820. 2015-12-19 16:31:49     copypaste       How many rows have deleted_at = null vs. not null?  Also, the same with body <> '' ?  Can you tell me?
  2821. 2015-12-19 16:31:49     copypaste       ​
  2822. 2015-12-19 16:31:49     copypaste       4:28
  2823. 2015-12-19 16:31:50     copypaste       I think, right now, it may be best to add partial index on either or both of those.
  2824. 2015-12-19 16:31:57     copypaste       The part of the manual I’m referring to: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.4/static/indexes-partial.html
  2825. 2015-12-19 16:32:34     n-tech  100% of the db is deleted_at=null
  2826. 2015-12-19 16:33:26     copypaste       why check if body <> '' in the first place? shouldn't post reject that
  2827. 2015-12-19 16:33:37     n-tech  it's for the front page.
  2828. 2015-12-19 16:33:43     copypaste       o ok
  2829. 2015-12-19 16:33:45     n-tech  it's refusing posts which are just attachments
  2830. 2015-12-19 16:34:16     copypaste       "Maybe a partial index on body wrt empty strings might be more helpful."
  2831. 2015-12-19 16:34:19     copypaste       i think that's a good idea
  2832. 2015-12-19 16:35:26     n-tech  man
  2833. 2015-12-19 16:35:30     n-tech  I'm so fucking angry
  2834. 2015-12-19 16:35:35     n-tech  I have on a board index
  2835. 2015-12-19 16:35:37     n-tech  23 queries
  2836. 2015-12-19 16:35:42     n-tech  the load time is 9.62 seconds
  2837. 2015-12-19 16:35:48     n-tech  22 queries execute in under 20ms
  2838. 2015-12-19 16:35:56     n-tech  1 query executes in 9.34s
  2839. 2015-12-19 16:36:02     n-tech  the combined rest of the entire document
  2840. 2015-12-19 16:36:04     n-tech  is 1/30th
  2841. 2015-12-19 16:36:07     n-tech  this single query
  2842. 2015-12-19 16:36:16     n-tech  which under normal circumstances will execute in under 3ms
  2843. 2015-12-19 16:40:38     n-tech  it's literally only the posts table too
  2844. 2015-12-19 16:40:38     copypaste       23 queries is a lot
  2845. 2015-12-19 16:40:44     copypaste       other tables work fine?
  2846. 2015-12-19 16:40:47     copypaste       posts is a pretty large table
  2847. 2015-12-19 16:40:47     n-tech  it's not a problem! listen to me
  2848. 2015-12-19 16:40:48     n-tech  yes
  2849. 2015-12-19 16:40:51     n-tech  even the post_attachments
  2850. 2015-12-19 16:40:57     n-tech  which has millions of rows too
  2851. 2015-12-19 16:41:05     n-tech  or files, hundreds of thousands
  2852. 2015-12-19 16:41:09     n-tech  the slowdown is in and around the posts table
  2853. 2015-12-19 16:41:12     copypaste       ok, what would you like me to do
  2854. 2015-12-19 16:41:18     copypaste       do you want to talk to johann perhaps
  2855. 2015-12-19 16:41:19     n-tech  dunno.
  2856. 2015-12-19 16:41:24     copypaste       maybe he can help you better directly
  2857. 2015-12-19 16:41:26     n-tech  yea
  2858. 2015-12-19 16:41:32     n-tech  how do I get to him?
  2859. 2015-12-19 16:42:09     copypaste       i asked him if he has skype or something
  2860. 2015-12-19 16:42:13     copypaste       it might be some gnu+chat
  2861. 2015-12-19 16:42:15     copypaste       we'll see
  2862. 2015-12-19 16:42:32     copypaste       do you have viber
  2863. 2015-12-19 16:42:40     n-tech  no
  2864. 2015-12-19 16:42:46     copypaste       will you install it
  2865. 2015-12-19 16:42:53     copypaste       pls
  2866. 2015-12-19 16:43:23     copypaste       actually he says you can SMS 9156653308
  2867. 2015-12-19 16:43:31     copypaste       but viber is better because it's free
  2868. 2015-12-19 16:43:39     copypaste       "If josh contacts me on it, tell him to let me know who it is, in the first message.  I may not receive the name he chooses for himself."
  2869. 2015-12-19 16:44:26     n-tech  I literally cannot install this applicaiton
  2870. 2015-12-19 16:44:36     n-tech  Viber is by Microsoft and it relies on the "Shop" app
  2871. 2015-12-19 16:44:43     n-tech  and I have utterly destroyed that on my computer
  2872. 2015-12-19 16:44:52     n-tech  it refuses to give me an msi or exe
  2873. 2015-12-19 16:45:22     n-tech  how is viber any different than skype
  2874. 2015-12-19 16:45:27     n-tech  they're both owned by ms
  2875. 2015-12-19 16:45:55     copypaste       dunno dude
  2876. 2015-12-19 16:46:01     copypaste       i'd never heard of it before
  2877. 2015-12-19 16:46:17     n-tech  so he doesn't use IRC? Or Skype? I can't diagnose postgres over a phone
  2878. 2015-12-19 16:46:20     n-tech  What's his email?
  2879. 2015-12-19 16:46:34     copypaste       IRC would work
  2880. 2015-12-19 16:46:38     copypaste       he doesn't use skype no
  2881. 2015-12-19 16:46:43     copypaste       i think his girlfriend uses this viber thing
  2882. 2015-12-19 16:46:44     n-tech  Okay, what channel and nick?
  2883. 2015-12-19 16:46:50     copypaste       i asked
  2884. 2015-12-19 16:48:17     copypaste       he's myrkraverk on freenode, but he just told me he's not home
  2885. 2015-12-19 16:48:19     copypaste       so can't use that
  2886. 2015-12-19 16:48:25     copypaste       that's why he gave this phone app stuff
  2887. 2015-12-19 16:50:22     copypaste       ok he said to query him on freenode, i think he got some IRC app
  2888. 2015-12-19 16:50:25     copypaste       ok?
  2889. 2015-12-19 17:17:11     n-tech  okay, do me a favor
  2890. 2015-12-19 17:17:21     n-tech  Can you try increasing the resources given to pg on troi08?
  2891. 2015-12-19 17:17:29     n-tech  like, you probably know the conf more than I do
  2892. 2015-12-19 17:17:34     n-tech  and what resources the server has
  2893. 2015-12-19 17:17:42     n-tech  I'm wondering if it's just too big a table trying to run on too little memory
  2894. 2015-12-19 17:17:54     n-tech  <myrkraverk> Yeah.  How did you tune the server?  Most of the time it's sufficient to use this: http://pgtune.leopard.in.ua/
  2895. 2015-12-19 17:17:54     n-tech  <myrkraverk> Are you adding the index now?
  2896. 2015-12-19 17:21:29     copypaste       oh
  2897. 2015-12-19 17:21:31     copypaste       i did use that already
  2898. 2015-12-19 17:21:35     copypaste       he recommended it to me already
  2899. 2015-12-19 17:21:38     copypaste       that's how i tuned it yes
  2900. 2015-12-19 17:22:02     copypaste       it's possible the conf isn't being used though?
  2901. 2015-12-19 17:22:07     copypaste       that could be something that needs verifiyng
  2902. 2015-12-19 17:22:13     copypaste       but it worked quite well during the beta
  2903. 2015-12-19 17:22:55     n-tech  well our database name is different now
  2904. 2015-12-19 17:22:59     n-tech  if that means anything
  2905. 2015-12-19 17:26:27     copypaste       oh shit i'm fucking retarded
  2906. 2015-12-19 17:26:33     copypaste       i had a problem with the DB remember
  2907. 2015-12-19 17:26:36     copypaste       and i clobbered the whole dir
  2908. 2015-12-19 17:26:42     copypaste       i forgot that in psql, unlike in mysql
  2909. 2015-12-19 17:26:45     copypaste       the config goes in the DB dir
  2910. 2015-12-19 17:26:47     copypaste       not ouside
  2911. 2015-12-19 17:26:50     copypaste       it's running defaults
  2912. 2015-12-19 17:26:52     copypaste       i'm very sorry
  2913. 2015-12-19 17:27:12     n-tech  don't apologize until we confirm that the altenate config reduces a query time down from 12s to <1s
  2914. 2015-12-19 17:27:12     n-tech  lol
  2915. 2015-12-19 17:29:31     copypaste       try now
  2916. 2015-12-19 17:31:14     copypaste       where is the postgres data?
  2917. 2015-12-19 17:31:36     n-tech  you mean the debug bar?
  2918. 2015-12-19 17:31:39     copypaste       no
  2919. 2015-12-19 17:31:44     copypaste       i mean the actual on disk files
  2920. 2015-12-19 17:31:47     copypaste       for troi08
  2921. 2015-12-19 17:31:50     copypaste       i can't remember
  2922. 2015-12-19 17:31:50     n-tech  I haven't a clue
  2923. 2015-12-19 17:31:54     copypaste       nice
  2924. 2015-12-19 17:31:56     n-tech  probably like
  2925. 2015-12-19 17:31:58     copypaste       i'll keep looking
  2926. 2015-12-19 17:32:06     n-tech  /usr/local/postgres or something
  2927. 2015-12-19 17:34:05     copypaste       ok i found it
  2928. 2015-12-19 17:34:12     copypaste       /usr/local/pgsql/data
  2929. 2015-12-19 17:34:14     copypaste       for future reference
  2930. 2015-12-19 17:34:16     copypaste       odd path
  2931. 2015-12-19 17:34:35     copypaste       i added the lines from the tuner and restarted pgsql
  2932. 2015-12-19 17:35:17     copypaste       still super slow for me
  2933. 2015-12-19 17:38:15     n-tech  it just blows my fucking mind that this could happen
  2934. 2015-12-19 17:38:21     n-tech  how does a select statement take 12 fucking seconds
  2935. 2015-12-19 17:38:42     copypaste       i don't know
  2936. 2015-12-19 17:38:47     copypaste       maybe my conf isn't working
  2937. 2015-12-19 17:38:51     copypaste       that's all i can think of
  2938. 2015-12-19 17:38:56     copypaste       johann has worked on postgres internals
  2939. 2015-12-19 17:39:00     copypaste       if you give him access he can tell su for sure
  2940. 2015-12-19 17:39:18     copypaste       not to mention that we moved to postgres to try to speed things up
  2941. 2015-12-19 17:39:21     copypaste       lol...
  2942. 2015-12-19 17:40:06     n-tech  he seems to believe that the reply_to column neesd to be an index
  2943. 2015-12-20 07:56:06     n-tech  hey mate
  2944. 2015-12-20 07:56:09     n-tech  i might need your help
  2945. 2015-12-20 07:56:10     n-tech  not with code
  2946. 2015-12-20 07:56:14     n-tech  for preparing for this trip
  2947. 2015-12-20 07:56:24     n-tech  i forgot this is tomorrow
  2948. 2015-12-20 07:57:10     n-tech  just let me know when you're up and i'll give you a rundown
  2949. 2015-12-20 13:37:23     copypaste       hi
  2950. 2015-12-20 13:37:47     n-tech  i forgot what i was going to ask
  2951. 2015-12-20 13:39:01     copypaste       lol
  2952. 2015-12-20 13:39:08     copypaste       just bring a passport, clothes, your computer
  2953. 2015-12-20 13:39:10     copypaste       not that hard
  2954. 2015-12-20 13:39:23     copypaste       oh and your flight to ho chi minh paper
  2955. 2015-12-20 13:39:27     copypaste       and all the papers i gave you
  2956. 2015-12-20 13:39:35     n-tech  oh that's what i was going to ask
  2957. 2015-12-20 13:39:46     n-tech  i tried to buy clothes but i'm too fat now
  2958. 2015-12-20 13:39:54     n-tech  so for the entire week you're going to see my total of 2 hoodies and one pair of jeans
  2959. 2015-12-20 13:40:02     n-tech  i've cleaned them but i'm basically a cartoon character
  2960. 2015-12-20 13:40:56     copypaste       this is pretty short notice but there's a "big and tall" store on EDSA
  2961. 2015-12-20 13:41:13     n-tech  OH
  2962. 2015-12-20 13:41:14     n-tech  now I remember
  2963. 2015-12-20 13:41:21     copypaste       oh god this article
  2964. 2015-12-20 13:41:22     n-tech  I need to borrow money because I forgot to withdraw my bitcoins
  2965. 2015-12-20 13:41:22     copypaste       LOL
  2966. 2015-12-20 13:41:23     n-tech  but it's a sunday
  2967. 2015-12-20 13:41:26     copypaste       http://www.mb.com.ph/large-and-in-charge/
  2968. 2015-12-20 13:42:51     copypaste       “Our sizes range from 1XL to 5XL. And actually, believe it or not, it’s the bigger sizes that sell more than the smaller XLs,” says Lim. “So that means that there is a specific demographic that really looks for extra big sizes.”
  2969. 2015-12-20 13:42:54     copypaste       i'm dying
  2970. 2015-12-20 13:43:12     copypaste       ok i never looked into that one before, it's probably more than you want to spend
  2971. 2015-12-20 13:43:27     n-tech  yeah, just forget it. i'll wear my hoodies.
  2972. 2015-12-20 13:43:32     copypaste       but that's the only one i know simply because i see their billboard on EDSA
  2973. 2015-12-20 13:43:34     copypaste       sorry
  2974. 2015-12-20 13:43:44     n-tech  is there any way to get directories in a partition
  2975. 2015-12-20 13:43:49     n-tech  I have tons of spare room in my deb but like
  2976. 2015-12-20 13:43:56     n-tech  my main is only 340mb
  2977. 2015-12-20 13:43:59     n-tech  so i cant fucking do anything
  2978. 2015-12-20 13:44:09     copypaste       gparted would be smart
  2979. 2015-12-20 13:44:15     copypaste       use the gparted livecd to resize partitions
  2980. 2015-12-20 13:44:18     n-tech  cant install it.
  2981. 2015-12-20 13:44:32     copypaste       this is your local vm right?
  2982. 2015-12-20 13:44:41     copypaste       you can also make a new partition and mount it as /usr, etc
  2983. 2015-12-20 13:44:45     copypaste       that's more complex thogh
  2984. 2015-12-20 13:44:53     copypaste       and you have to be careful lest you delete /usr lol
  2985. 2015-12-20 13:45:54     copypaste       maybe you can buy clothes in japan
  2986. 2015-12-20 13:46:02     copypaste       if you go to the tourist areas
  2987. 2015-12-20 13:46:05     n-tech  they're going to be slower lol
  2988. 2015-12-20 13:46:06     n-tech  and yes
  2989. 2015-12-20 13:46:07     copypaste       fat weebs go to japan all the time, right?
  2990. 2015-12-20 13:46:10     n-tech  smaller*
  2991. 2015-12-20 13:46:30     copypaste       this is something i've never had to think about before
  2992. 2015-12-20 13:46:49     copypaste       i have trouble finding clothes too, but if it's too big it just looks a litle silly
  2993. 2015-12-20 13:46:53     copypaste       it's not a big problem
  2994. 2015-12-20 13:47:28     n-tech  I fucking hate linux. All I want to do is delete some shit.
  2995. 2015-12-20 13:47:48     copypaste       why do you need more space to do that
  2996. 2015-12-20 13:47:57     copypaste       `rm` should work on full partitions
  2997. 2015-12-20 13:48:04     copypaste       apt may not run however
  2998. 2015-12-20 13:48:07     n-tech  i can't install gparted and i don't know which directories belong in the same directory as what's full
  2999. 2015-12-20 13:48:29     copypaste       can't really blame linux on this
  3000. 2015-12-20 13:48:41     copypaste       shut the vm down
  3001. 2015-12-20 13:48:43     copypaste       run the gparted livecd
  3002. 2015-12-20 13:48:50     copypaste       resize partitions that way
  3003. 2015-12-20 13:50:47     copypaste       if you had a full C: on windows i doubt you could install anything
  3004. 2015-12-20 13:50:53     copypaste       and windows doesn't include windirstat by default
  3005. 2015-12-20 13:50:58     copypaste       you'd have the same options as you donow
  3006. 2015-12-20 13:51:06     copypaste       (kdirstat on linux)
  3007. 2015-12-20 13:51:44     n-tech  except on windows
  3008. 2015-12-20 13:51:45     n-tech  i'd know
  3009. 2015-12-20 13:51:47     n-tech  C:\ is full
  3010. 2015-12-20 13:51:49     n-tech  or D:\ is full
  3011. 2015-12-20 13:51:56     n-tech  on Linux I have 10 root directories
  3012. 2015-12-20 13:52:01     copypaste       `df -h`
  3013. 2015-12-20 13:52:04     n-tech  which ones are full? which ones belong to which directories?
  3014. 2015-12-20 13:52:09     n-tech  that doesn't tell me what to fucking delete from
  3015. 2015-12-20 13:52:11     copypaste       `mount` (no arguments)
  3016. 2015-12-20 13:52:12     n-tech  it just says which parts are full
  3017. 2015-12-20 13:52:45     n-tech  i think i got it
  3018. 2015-12-20 13:52:47     n-tech  /tmp/ was full
  3019. 2015-12-20 13:52:52     n-tech  i just started deleting random shit
  3020. 2015-12-20 13:52:55     n-tech  that one had like 180mb
  3021. 2015-12-20 13:53:07     copypaste       uh, no, df tells you which parts contain which dirs and which parts are full
  3022. 2015-12-20 13:53:16     copypaste       it's like /dev/sda1 mounted on /var 100%
  3023. 2015-12-20 13:53:26     copypaste       anything not listed there belongs to the drive mounted on /
  3024. 2015-12-20 13:53:44     copypaste       /tmp, if not its own part, belongs to /
  3025. 2015-12-20 13:53:59     n-tech  I've also decided I hate these fucking people and if 8chan dies I won't care
  3026. 2015-12-20 13:54:18     n-tech  So much effort for so little
  3027. 2015-12-20 13:54:30     copypaste       mm, you've taken the pill i took long ago
  3028. 2015-12-20 13:55:03     copypaste       they did donate to you though
  3029. 2015-12-20 13:55:16     copypaste       you should at least get it working
  3030. 2015-12-20 13:55:28     copypaste       were they hard on you for the downtime? i didn't even look at any thread about ti
  3031. 2015-12-20 13:55:37     copypaste       their opinions don't really matter, we did our best
  3032. 2015-12-20 13:55:42     copypaste       bitching about it doesn't change anything
  3033. 2015-12-20 13:55:50     copypaste       they're free to try on their own
  3034. 2015-12-20 13:56:01     copypaste       i know all the conclusions without reading the threads, so why subject myself to the threads?
  3035. 2015-12-20 13:56:12     copypaste       take the "love it or shove it" pill
  3036. 2015-12-20 13:56:14     copypaste       it's good for your health
  3037. 2015-12-20 13:57:01     n-tech  everywhere is exploding, people hate me
  3038. 2015-12-20 13:57:09     copypaste       "exploding"?
  3039. 2015-12-20 13:57:12     n-tech  like i can't post now without people dumping smug anime avatars
  3040. 2015-12-20 13:57:20     n-tech  >post your face when you didn't donate to this
  3041. 2015-12-20 13:57:20     copypaste       so don't post
  3042. 2015-12-20 13:57:22     copypaste       i never post
  3043. 2015-12-20 13:57:48     copypaste       do like i do, make announcements that can't be replied to
  3044. 2015-12-20 13:57:51     copypaste       read their replies if you care
  3045. 2015-12-20 13:57:58     copypaste       rinse and repeat
  3046. 2015-12-20 13:58:18     copypaste       i've developed this strategy after seeing that previous ones fail
  3047. 2015-12-20 13:58:32     copypaste       it works well, and they hate it because it works well
  3048. 2015-12-20 14:00:38     copypaste       oh, there's a part two
  3049. 2015-12-20 14:00:44     copypaste       anything i want feedback on is nunu's job
  3050. 2015-12-20 14:00:50     copypaste       to collect the responses
  3051. 2015-12-20 14:01:04     copypaste       and distill them to some meme-free content-full summary
  3052. 2015-12-20 14:20:54     copypaste       ok, i see the /tech/ thread now
  3053. 2015-12-20 14:21:00     copypaste       your first mistake was thinking those neckbeards could help you
  3054. 2015-12-20 14:21:09     copypaste       the only one that came close to you was Lynx, and his chan is just lol
  3055. 2015-12-20 14:21:17     copypaste       /tech/ has never finished a project
  3056. 2015-12-20 14:21:28     copypaste       in the case of zirconium, beyond making some logos they did nothing else
  3057. 2015-12-20 14:21:35     copypaste       (one may have checked out chromium source code)
  3058. 2015-12-20 14:22:25     copypaste       also, you have to recognize that a whole day of downtime is a great opportunity for people who hate you to come and shill
  3059. 2015-12-20 14:22:28     copypaste       regardless of any facts
  3060. 2015-12-20 14:22:33     copypaste       because they know it will get to you
  3061. 2015-12-20 14:22:43     copypaste       definitely /cow/ users are in that thread
  3062. 2015-12-20 14:23:24     copypaste       johan is already an expert, you don't need any advice from those guys
  3063. 2015-12-20 14:23:54     n-tech  I wanted to explain the problem and it turned into a guy dumping his smug anime girl avatar folder in under 30 minutes
  3064. 2015-12-20 14:24:01     copypaste       yeah
  3065. 2015-12-20 14:24:03     copypaste       i see that
  3066. 2015-12-20 14:24:25     copypaste       i can tell you what oyu alredy know, that's just one guy
  3067. 2015-12-20 14:25:05     copypaste       i think your post is well written
  3068. 2015-12-20 14:25:13     copypaste       that would have made a good announcement, but not a good thread
  3069. 2015-12-20 14:25:34     copypaste       i understand the problem even
  3070. 2015-12-20 14:26:00     copypaste       the first step to fixing the problem is understanding
  3071. 2015-12-20 14:26:12     copypaste       i've had migration failures which shut the site down for a day too before
  3072. 2015-12-20 14:26:14     copypaste       read.php was one
  3073. 2015-12-20 14:26:24     copypaste       another was when i tried to set up mysql cluster
  3074. 2015-12-20 14:26:39     copypaste       they'll forgive and forget, eventually
  3075. 2015-12-20 14:26:46     copypaste       i'm the only one that remembers those two impretty sure
  3076. 2015-12-20 14:27:16     n-tech  I can't get Laravel's php unit tests working
  3077. 2015-12-20 14:27:35     copypaste       they probably don't work
  3078. 2015-12-20 14:27:38     copypaste       unit tests are just a meme
  3079. 2015-12-20 14:28:40     copypaste       i have to leave and get ready for tomorrow
  3080. 2015-12-20 14:28:52     n-tech  alright
  3081. 2015-12-20 14:29:24     copypaste       i'm sure this problem can be worked around with johann helping
  3082. 2015-12-20 14:29:39     copypaste       don't worry about it
  3083. 2015-12-20 16:35:35     copypaste       i'm back and ready
  3084. 2015-12-20 16:35:54     copypaste       unfortunately i can't lend you any money on such short notice
  3085. 2015-12-20 16:36:08     copypaste       perhaps the diners card will work in japan
  3086. 2015-12-20 16:37:25     n-tech  I mean I can send you btc
  3087. 2015-12-20 16:37:31     n-tech  I have 85,000php in bitcoins
  3088. 2015-12-20 16:37:58     n-tech  I just don't think I can get to the Padala in the morning quick enough
  3089. 2015-12-20 16:38:06     n-tech  and if I have another issue i'm fucked
  3090. 2015-12-20 16:38:37     copypaste       i've been tasked with buying some electronics for RQI
  3091. 2015-12-20 16:38:40     copypaste       i can't do that with bitcoin
  3092. 2015-12-20 16:39:02     copypaste       i have the same problem you do, i just am prepared
  3093. 2015-12-21 05:36:39     n-tech  yo
  3094. 2015-12-21 05:36:44     n-tech  just head's up im sleeping on the plane
  3095. 2015-12-21 05:36:56     copypaste       same
  3096. 2015-12-21 05:36:56     copypaste       wew
  3097. 2015-12-21 06:15:25     n-tech  When are we meeting up for the cab?
  3098. 2015-12-21 06:17:39     copypaste       7 sound good?
  3099. 2015-12-21 06:18:02     n-tech  ye
  3100. 2015-12-21 06:30:50     n-tech  hey i forwarded you an email
  3101. 2015-12-21 06:30:56     n-tech  print that out please it's my other ticket
  3102. 2015-12-21 06:31:04     n-tech  and forward me the ticket email [email protected]
  3103. 2015-12-21 06:31:27     copypaste       send to [email protected]
  3104. 2015-12-21 06:31:28     copypaste       and ok
  3105. 2015-12-21 06:49:13     copypaste       hey can you come here and help mochi carry stuff
  3106. 2015-12-21 06:49:13     --      [n-tech] is away: Auto away at Sun Dec 20 22:47:24 2015
  3107. 2015-12-21 06:49:16     copypaste       she's going to aklan
  3108. 2015-12-21 06:49:21     copypaste       so she has bags too, plus mine
  3109. 2015-12-21 06:49:23     copypaste       it's a lot
  3110. 2015-12-21 06:51:53     copypaste       i just tried to call you twice and immediate voicemail
  3111. 2015-12-21 06:54:29     copypaste       ok nevermind then, mochi came up with an alternate solution
  3112. 2015-12-21 06:54:35     copypaste       she'll leave the bags in the lobby with the guard
  3113. 2015-12-27 01:08:35     <<      n-tech ([email protected]) has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
  3114. 2015-12-27 01:14:05     >>      n-tech ([email protected]:2E383ACB:9A9D32F5:IP) is back on server
  3115. 2015-12-27 22:58:55     <<      n-tech ([email protected]:2E383ACB:9A9D32F5:IP) has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
  3116. 2015-12-27 23:54:52     >>      n-tech ([email protected]:2E383ACB:9A9D32F5:IP) is back on server
  3117. 2015-12-28 14:38:25             [copypaste away: Not here right now. since 2015-12-28 14:38:25+0800]
  3118. 2015-12-29 08:02:00             [copypaste back: gone 17:23:34]
  3119. 2015-12-29 08:38:44     <<      n-tech ([email protected]:2E383ACB:9A9D32F5:IP) has quit (Killed (irc.rizon.sexy (Too many invalid passwords)))
  3120. 2015-12-29 08:38:59     >>      n-tech ([email protected]:2E383ACB:9A9D32F5:IP) is back on server
  3121. 2015-12-29 10:40:48     copypaste       hey, did you know where you put the wheelchair manual?
  3122. 2015-12-29 10:40:55     copypaste       i'm trying to figure out what size battery this thing is
  3123. 2015-12-29 10:41:03     copypaste       it's not any standard size i can tell (or have seen before)
  3124. 2015-12-29 10:41:26     copypaste       it's definitely not group 22, 24, 34, or 37
  3125. 2015-12-29 10:42:21     copypaste       i rocked it back and forth and the contents shift
  3126. 2015-12-29 10:42:28     copypaste       i think it coudl be a few batteries together in series
  3127. 2015-12-29 10:45:06     copypaste       the bottom power source is a simple anderson connector
  3128. 2015-12-29 10:45:17     copypaste       i could actually charge my phone from it with an inverter
  3129. 2015-12-29 15:44:55     n-tech  I have it still
  3130. 2015-12-29 16:48:52     copypaste       do you mind bringing it here when you have a chance
  3131. 2015-12-29 16:49:12     copypaste       also, do you think it's wise to open it? i did some research online and my theory is not at all far fetched
  3132. 2015-12-29 16:50:04     copypaste       most laptop battery packs are made of small lithium batteries resembling AA of size 18650
  3133. 2015-12-29 16:50:25     copypaste       they are put together in series, with a protection circuit board, and then put in a battery case
  3134. 2015-12-29 16:51:32     copypaste       i believe that my wheelchair battery is either many of those in series, or other larger cells
  3135. 2015-12-29 16:51:49     copypaste       i do not believe that it is one giant battery, as i can't find any of this volts and watts on alibaba
  3136. 2015-12-29 16:52:38     copypaste       https://softsolder.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/img_1882-dell-75uyf-battery-contents.jpg
  3137. 2015-12-29 16:52:47     copypaste       here's what i'm talking about applied to a smaller scale
  3138. 2015-12-29 16:55:29     copypaste       so i think it's a custom battery case and size, but need the paperwork to confirm this
  3139. 2015-12-29 16:55:51     copypaste       if i'm right i have a real problem, as finding another one will be difficult
  3140. 2015-12-29 16:56:20     copypaste       i might need to build my own lower powered one
  3141. 2015-12-29 20:35:25             [copypaste away: Not here right now. since 2015-12-29 20:35:25+0800]
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  3151. 2015-12-31 12:19:33     copypaste       if you need my help with anything let me know
  3152. 2015-12-31 12:19:45     copypaste       i'm preoccupied with my contract but can take time to help of course
  3153. 2015-12-31 14:09:49     n-tech  well I asked for two things yesterday
  3154. 2015-12-31 14:09:56     n-tech  I need my mysql account to be able to lock/unlock mysql tables
  3155. 2015-12-31 14:10:02     n-tech  and I need to know how to edit the banner applcation
  3156. 2015-12-31 14:10:12     n-tech  otherwise I'm going to just have to wing it
  3157. 2015-12-31 14:13:19     copypaste       asked for them where ?
  3158. 2015-12-31 14:13:46     n-tech  text
  3159. 2015-12-31 14:13:50     n-tech  i also said my plan in #8chan-staff
  3160. 2015-12-31 14:13:51     copypaste       you just said you were going to do them, so i assumed you knew how
  3161. 2015-12-31 14:14:00     copypaste       oh, i haven't looked at my phone in a while
  3162. 2015-12-31 14:14:20     copypaste       yeah, this is simple
  3163. 2015-12-31 14:14:34     copypaste       i can grant lock, and give you admin rights to troi10 [banner application]
  3164. 2015-12-31 14:14:40     copypaste       it's a very simple laravel application
  3165. 2015-12-31 14:14:55     n-tech  yea, i'm going to just make a tweak so that
  3166. 2015-12-31 14:15:01     n-tech  if in the banner directory a file like
  3167. 2015-12-31 14:15:07     n-tech  infinity.importing exists, show banner 1
  3168. 2015-12-31 14:15:12     n-tech  if infinity.impoted exists, show banner 2
  3169. 2015-12-31 14:15:21     n-tech  imported*
  3170. 2015-12-31 14:15:22     copypaste       i moved everything to postgres for troi10
  3171. 2015-12-31 14:15:36     copypaste       you'll see
  3172. 2015-12-31 14:18:31     copypaste       i granted lock tables
  3173. 2015-12-31 14:18:52     copypaste       troi10.nttec.com - [ip removed]
  3174. 2015-12-31 14:18:52     copypaste       root: [pw removed]
  3175. 2015-12-31 14:18:52     copypaste       service: [pw removed]
  3176. 2015-12-31 14:19:18     copypaste       make sure you lock write and not lock read
  3177. 2015-12-31 14:19:54     n-tech  holy shit did you see
  3178. 2015-12-31 14:19:59     n-tech  the lead developer of Debian
  3179. 2015-12-31 14:20:04     copypaste       i saw
  3180. 2015-12-31 14:20:14     n-tech  I thought his twitter had gotten hacked and now he's dead
  3181. 2015-12-31 14:20:16     n-tech  that's insane
  3182. 2015-12-31 14:20:22     n-tech  let me check permissions
  3183. 2015-12-31 14:31:17     n-tech  I can't su as root on t10
  3184. 2015-12-31 15:10:22     n-tech  Is the troi10 public/banners directory not symlinked at all?
  3185. 2015-12-31 15:25:20     copypaste       correct, it was copied over
  3186. 2015-12-31 15:25:38     copypaste       no point in relying on a slow raid when the dataset is itself so small
  3187. 2015-12-31 15:25:52     copypaste       that one server handles tons of requests fine
  3188. 2015-12-31 15:26:14     copypaste       i don't even think the NFS Servers are mounted on it
  3189. 2015-12-31 15:26:17     copypaste       if they are, they shouldn't be
  3190. 2015-12-31 15:26:38     n-tech  I need a way for troi05 to write to troi10
  3191. 2015-12-31 15:26:55     n-tech  so that I can make files like, /public/banners/next/infinity.import
  3192. 2015-12-31 15:27:02     n-tech  with a value of "testing" "migrating" or "horizon"
  3193. 2015-12-31 15:27:13     n-tech  I may just make a secret route
  3194. 2015-12-31 15:27:17     n-tech  but that's risky
  3195. 2015-12-31 15:27:32     copypaste       why not make the postgresql server on troi10 accessible to troi05, and connect to that
  3196. 2015-12-31 15:28:15     n-tech  well that's really complicate the import script, but it's an option
  3197. 2015-12-31 15:28:19     copypaste       and make a new table
  3198. 2015-12-31 15:28:25     n-tech  that'd*
  3199. 2015-12-31 15:28:44     copypaste       well, as far as i know the troi10 application doesn't do anything with the public banners except redirecting
  3200. 2015-12-31 15:28:49     copypaste       even the index is stored in the internal database
  3201. 2015-12-31 15:28:57     copypaste       like i said, that was a quickly made application but it works fine for what it does
  3202. 2015-12-31 15:29:06     copypaste       i think a secret route would be fine
  3203. 2015-12-31 15:29:27     copypaste       the worst that a leak could do is momentarily mess with the states, no big deal
  3204. 2015-12-31 15:29:55     copypaste       even if you were writing those files, you'd have to edit the routes anyway
  3205. 2015-12-31 15:30:01     copypaste       to actually check for them
  3206. 2015-12-31 15:30:16     copypaste       better to use the existing troi10 database i'd think
  3207. 2015-12-31 16:12:47     n-tech  I need your help with something
  3208. 2015-12-31 16:12:59     n-tech  ffmpeg doesn't work on the beta but the executable does exist for it and for ffprobe
  3209. 2015-12-31 16:13:10     n-tech  I'm curious if you know any reason why service wouldn't be able to talk to ffprobe
  3210. 2015-12-31 16:23:30     copypaste       sure
  3211. 2015-12-31 16:23:32     copypaste       try to do `su service`
  3212. 2015-12-31 16:23:37     copypaste       then `ffmpeg` or `ffprobe`
  3213. 2015-12-31 16:23:39     copypaste       to get the real error
  3214. 2015-12-31 16:23:52     copypaste       if it says that service has no shell, you (or i) can add one in /etc/passwd
  3215. 2015-12-31 16:24:01     copypaste       if it's /nologin that's a bad sign
  3216. 2015-12-31 16:24:27     n-tech  running it on a file in /tmp/ works
  3217. 2015-12-31 16:24:38     n-tech  I wonder if the php temporary dir is different
  3218. 2015-12-31 16:26:09     copypaste       the actual error as printed to stdout/stderr would help, if you can get it somehow
  3219. 2015-12-31 16:26:14     copypaste       even the return code
  3220. 2015-12-31 16:36:17     n-tech  http://stackoverflow.com/questions/438618/illegal-command-error-code-127-in-php-exec-function
  3221. 2015-12-31 16:36:27     n-tech  what's the literal dir of ffmpeg/ffprobe?
  3222. 2015-12-31 16:44:21     copypaste       try `which ffmpeg`
  3223. 2015-12-31 16:44:26     n-tech  i got it
  3224. 2015-12-31 16:44:27     copypaste       when running as a user that can find it
  3225. 2015-12-31 16:44:30     copypaste       i believe we discussed this before
  3226. 2015-12-31 16:44:36     n-tech  https://beta.8ch.net/test/thread/19787
  3227. 2015-12-31 16:44:38     copypaste       and you said you'd add settings for the path
  3228. 2015-12-31 16:44:38     n-tech  that's all it was
  3229. 2015-12-31 16:44:40     n-tech  the alias was busted
  3230. 2015-12-31 16:44:41     copypaste       cool beans
  3231. 2015-12-31 16:44:42     n-tech  yes
  3232. 2015-12-31 16:44:47     n-tech  there's some weird js error
  3233. 2015-12-31 16:44:50     n-tech  with opening a web
  3234. 2015-12-31 16:44:55     n-tech  a video or whatever
  3235. 2015-12-31 16:45:04     n-tech  the attachment stuff is the most complicated part of the application
  3236. 2015-12-31 16:45:08     n-tech  it reminds me of how like, in the body
  3237. 2015-12-31 16:45:18     n-tech  all the nerves and blood vessels around your lips and nose are directly connected to the brain
  3238. 2015-12-31 16:45:27     n-tech  and if you pop a zit in the wrong way it can give you an anyeurism and kill you
  3239. 2015-12-31 16:45:43     copypaste       haha, awesome
  3240. 2015-12-31 16:45:45     copypaste       i didn't know that
  3241. 2015-12-31 16:45:55     copypaste       suicide by zit
  3242. 2015-12-31 16:46:03     n-tech  ye, a few people die every year like that
  3243. 2015-12-31 16:46:08     n-tech  wake up in the morning, preen, die
  3244. 2015-12-31 16:46:29     copypaste       i think that windows 10 is actually
  3245. 2015-12-31 16:46:31     copypaste       a good OS
  3246. 2015-12-31 16:46:50     n-tech  I would hope so considering how bad w8 is
  3247. 2015-12-31 16:46:57     copypaste       the handwriting recognition works a lot better than i expected, the only major hangup is how it confuses "a" with "9"
  3248. 2015-12-31 16:47:00     n-tech  otherwise microsoft would be comitting suicide
  3249. 2015-12-31 16:47:01     copypaste       and "Z" with "2"
  3250. 2015-12-31 16:47:05     copypaste       and some other minor issues
  3251. 2015-12-31 16:47:16     copypaste       yeah, they've gone back to windowing
  3252. 2015-12-31 16:47:20     copypaste       there's no metro to be found on this computer
  3253. 2015-12-31 16:47:21     n-tech  the way it usually works is
  3254. 2015-12-31 16:47:26     copypaste       all the metro apps open in windows
  3255. 2015-12-31 16:47:28     n-tech  every other release, after Service Pack 1 or 2
  3256. 2015-12-31 16:47:30     copypaste       like the calculator and news and so on
  3257. 2015-12-31 16:47:33     n-tech  the OS is "good" again
  3258. 2015-12-31 16:47:45     n-tech  Win 98 good
  3259. 2015-12-31 16:47:48     n-tech  Win ME abysmal
  3260. 2015-12-31 16:47:50     n-tech  Win XP good
  3261. 2015-12-31 16:47:53     n-tech  Win vista cancer
  3262. 2015-12-31 16:47:55     n-tech  Win 7 good
  3263. 2015-12-31 16:47:58     n-tech  Win 8 aids
  3264. 2015-12-31 16:48:02     n-tech  Win 10 good
  3265. 2015-12-31 16:48:23     copypaste       it has definitely kept up with that
  3266. 2015-12-31 16:48:24     n-tech  Nobody even remembers Windows ME
  3267. 2015-12-31 16:48:27     n-tech  I had Windows ME.
  3268. 2015-12-31 16:48:29     n-tech  I remember Windows ME.
  3269. 2015-12-31 16:48:33     copypaste       but MS has said that windows 10 will be the "last" version of windows
  3270. 2015-12-31 16:48:37     copypaste       their CEO said that at least
  3271. 2015-12-31 16:48:38     n-tech  uh oh
  3272. 2015-12-31 16:48:42     n-tech  UH OH
  3273. 2015-12-31 16:48:45     copypaste       they're basically turning into arch linux
  3274. 2015-12-31 16:48:48     copypaste       rolling release
  3275. 2015-12-31 16:48:51     copypaste       i'm not making this up
  3276. 2015-12-31 16:49:01     n-tech  yeah they want to do the uh
  3277. 2015-12-31 16:49:02     n-tech  browser thing
  3278. 2015-12-31 16:49:09     n-tech  where there is only 1 version of every major browser now
  3279. 2015-12-31 16:49:19     n-tech  and it automatically upgrades you the second you so much as bump into a free wifi area
  3280. 2015-12-31 16:49:27     copypaste       microsoft added Pointer Events patches to gecko, webkit, and of course their own edge browser
  3281. 2015-12-31 16:49:34     copypaste       (pressure sensitivity and pen support in browsers)
  3282. 2015-12-31 16:49:38     copypaste       i can't hate them that much
  3283. 2015-12-31 16:49:42     copypaste       they paid people to write patches
  3284. 2015-12-31 16:49:52     copypaste       they open sourced .NET, ASP and so on
  3285. 2015-12-31 16:49:56     n-tech  well windows has always beaten Apple in one big field
  3286. 2015-12-31 16:50:09     n-tech  DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS
  3287. 2015-12-31 16:50:11     copypaste       lol
  3288. 2015-12-31 16:50:16     n-tech  they make it easier to write stuff for their os
  3289. 2015-12-31 16:50:19     n-tech  and their phones and shit
  3290. 2015-12-31 16:50:20     copypaste       ah yes, losing developer mindshare
  3291. 2015-12-31 16:50:20     n-tech  unlike apple
  3292. 2015-12-31 16:50:23     copypaste       would be very bad for them
  3293. 2015-12-31 16:53:17     copypaste       in the week we were gone
  3294. 2015-12-31 16:53:33     copypaste       a previous eyesore across from me with caution tape and green gates everywhere
  3295. 2015-12-31 16:53:41     copypaste       transformed into just another condo tower
  3296. 2015-12-31 16:53:57     copypaste       there's still a little crane but soon that will disappear too
  3297. 2015-12-31 16:54:04     copypaste       i wonder why they're still building new shit in this empty place
  3298. 2015-12-31 16:54:10     copypaste       no one lives here
  3299. 2015-12-31 16:54:36     n-tech  dunno
  3300. 2015-12-31 16:54:41     n-tech  depending on how shit goes i might buy on
  3301. 2015-12-31 16:54:49     n-tech  you said there is an impending crash
  3302. 2015-12-31 16:54:52     n-tech  they're 80k right now right?
  3303. 2015-12-31 16:54:55     n-tech  if i can get one for 40k i will
  3304. 2015-12-31 16:56:46     copypaste       i think there will be a crash, but i tend to be very negative on these matters
  3305. 2015-12-31 16:56:57     copypaste       it's better than the unbridled positivity of a real estate agent however
  3306. 2015-12-31 16:57:01     copypaste       but i'm by no means objective either
  3307. 2015-12-31 16:57:12     copypaste       i just don't understand how all these empty condos are making anyone money
  3308. 2015-12-31 16:57:17     n-tech  yeah, if you stay on top of property values keep on because i'll buy one if i get a chance
  3309. 2015-12-31 16:57:26     n-tech  they probably make the developers money
  3310. 2015-12-31 16:57:28     copypaste       try going outside at night and seeing how many lights are on for example
  3311. 2015-12-31 16:57:30     n-tech  if it's just a housing bubble
  3312. 2015-12-31 16:57:36     n-tech  like all these people buy up the apartments
  3313. 2015-12-31 16:57:39     n-tech  and pay their dues
  3314. 2015-12-31 16:57:42     n-tech  then uh
  3315. 2015-12-31 16:57:51     n-tech  the people who own the condo building profit
  3316. 2015-12-31 16:57:56     n-tech  not the holders though
  3317. 2015-12-31 16:58:04     copypaste       i heard a rumor that in order to build a highrise in makati, you have to devote a whole floor to free units for corrupt politicians
  3318. 2015-12-31 16:58:07     copypaste       how true that is, i don't know
  3319. 2015-12-31 16:58:29     copypaste       (with the insinuation that if you don't getting the permits and other things to build will take years)
  3320. 2015-12-31 16:58:48     copypaste       but then again, this hardly affects me as i'm not in the business of building highrises
  3321. 2015-12-31 16:58:56     copypaste       and despite this "requirement" many are being built
  3322. 2015-12-31 16:59:21     n-tech  maybe that's why they get built
  3323. 2015-12-31 16:59:32     n-tech  if megaworld gives free housing to every politician in the country
  3324. 2015-12-31 16:59:36     n-tech  they will be loyal
  3325. 2015-12-31 17:02:06     copypaste       i guess in some ways it's also a store of value for the rich
  3326. 2015-12-31 17:02:12     copypaste       even if the units are empty
  3327. 2015-12-31 17:02:19     copypaste       so long as everyone doesn't try to sell at once, everything's fine
  3328. 2015-12-31 17:02:29     copypaste       but i'm sure you know of the chinese ghost towns
  3329. 2015-12-31 17:02:34     copypaste       full of condo buildings
  3330. 2015-12-31 17:02:42     copypaste       i see that at a limited scale here in cubao
  3331. 2015-12-31 17:02:57     copypaste       i go out at night a lot and rarely see more than 25% of lights on
  3332. 2015-12-31 17:03:01     copypaste       and i always look
  3333. 2015-12-31 17:03:16     copypaste       when i was staying at tom's place, the prognosis was even worse
  3334. 2015-12-31 17:03:26     copypaste       perhaps 5 lights on in the entire building
  3335. 2015-12-31 17:03:53     n-tech  what's the site that sells shit online for ph?
  3336. 2015-12-31 17:03:54     n-tech  that's not amazon
  3337. 2015-12-31 17:04:01     copypaste       lazada.com.ph
  3338. 2015-12-31 17:04:02     n-tech  I need new pants, during our trip the insides of my jeans tore
  3339. 2015-12-31 17:04:05     n-tech  and these are like my only pants
  3340. 2015-12-31 17:04:18     n-tech  I tried going to uh
  3341. 2015-12-31 17:04:20     n-tech  that big thing
  3342. 2015-12-31 17:04:24     n-tech  40" is their largest waist
  3343. 2015-12-31 17:04:24     n-tech  lol
  3344. 2015-12-31 17:04:26     copypaste       where?
  3345. 2015-12-31 17:04:27     copypaste       here?
  3346. 2015-12-31 17:04:28     n-tech  i'm literally too fat for this country
  3347. 2015-12-31 17:04:32     n-tech  the uh
  3348. 2015-12-31 17:04:34     n-tech  furniture place
  3349. 2015-12-31 17:04:39     copypaste       ahh
  3350. 2015-12-31 17:04:44     copypaste       40" sounds pretty big to me
  3351. 2015-12-31 17:04:49     n-tech  it is
  3352. 2015-12-31 17:04:58     n-tech  if you took a yard stick
  3353. 2015-12-31 17:05:02     n-tech  and wrapped it around my waist
  3354. 2015-12-31 17:05:07     n-tech  it'd have a half-foot gap
  3355. 2015-12-31 17:05:17     n-tech  so i'm rounder than you are tall
  3356. 2015-12-31 17:05:19     copypaste       really?
  3357. 2015-12-31 17:05:20     copypaste       wow
  3358. 2015-12-31 17:05:36     n-tech  yeah, the waist is around your gut, the belly button, and that's where I keep weight now
  3359. 2015-12-31 17:05:44     n-tech  i used to keep it on my tits but luckily those stopped growing so i'm not too upset
  3360. 2015-12-31 17:05:46     copypaste       yeah i guess that makes sense
  3361. 2015-12-31 17:05:57     copypaste       there has to be a way
  3362. 2015-12-31 17:06:03     copypaste       there are tailors at ShopWise
  3363. 2015-12-31 17:06:12     copypaste       you could also import your clothes
  3364. 2015-12-31 17:06:17     copypaste       customs won't give you any problems over that
  3365. 2015-12-31 17:06:25     copypaste       have your mom send you some, for example
  3366. 2015-12-31 17:06:34     copypaste       customs only really cares about electronics, jewlery, and so on
  3367. 2015-12-31 17:07:05     n-tech  I tried asking the mercury drug for stuff yesterday
  3368. 2015-12-31 17:07:09     n-tech  i finally balled up and just went in
  3369. 2015-12-31 17:07:12     n-tech  and he was like, you need a script
  3370. 2015-12-31 17:07:16     n-tech  i should have rehersed
  3371. 2015-12-31 17:07:21     n-tech  i knew you had to ask for a generic name
  3372. 2015-12-31 17:07:22     copypaste       did he say what kind?
  3373. 2015-12-31 17:07:30     n-tech  no he just said talk to your doctor
  3374. 2015-12-31 17:07:40     copypaste       lol
  3375. 2015-12-31 17:07:53     copypaste       woah
  3376. 2015-12-31 17:07:56     copypaste       there's a little tweety bird
  3377. 2015-12-31 17:08:00     n-tech  it's a canary
  3378. 2015-12-31 17:08:02     copypaste       at teh bottom of beta.8ch.net
  3379. 2015-12-31 17:08:03     copypaste       cute
  3380. 2015-12-31 17:08:05     n-tech  of warrant properties
  3381. 2015-12-31 17:08:12     n-tech  hover over it
  3382. 2015-12-31 17:08:13     n-tech  lol
  3383. 2015-12-31 17:08:16     copypaste       yeah ok i see now
  3384. 2015-12-31 17:15:09     copypaste       so anyway, as i told you, you should have gone in with a US prescription
  3385. 2015-12-31 17:15:13     copypaste       and feigned urgency
  3386. 2015-12-31 17:15:24     copypaste       they don't know what one looks like, hint hint
  3387. 2015-12-31 17:15:58     n-tech  there's no way im comitting medical forgery
  3388. 2015-12-31 17:15:59     copypaste       (not to mention they vary between states - trust me on that one)
  3389. 2015-12-31 17:16:08     n-tech  like i don't care how lawless the philippines is that's too much for me
  3390. 2015-12-31 17:16:28     copypaste       they refuse it you just walk out, i'm not sure what you mean
  3391. 2015-12-31 17:16:58     copypaste       in china, adderall is prescribed for obesity only as they don't believe ADHD is a real disease
  3392. 2015-12-31 17:17:15     n-tech  omfg
  3393. 2015-12-31 17:17:19     n-tech  THE BEIJING DREAM
  3394. 2015-12-31 17:18:33     copypaste       lol
  3395. 2015-12-31 17:21:18     copypaste       oh i read that here so it could be wrong, but http://www.addforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11833&page=3
  3396. 2015-12-31 17:21:32     copypaste       i talked to ron about something similar before and he told me about it
  3397. 2015-12-31 17:21:42     copypaste       (i talked to him about methaqualone, still being produced in china)
  3398. 2015-12-31 17:21:47     copypaste       ("Quaaludes")
  3399. 2015-12-31 17:24:35     copypaste       i'm working on the oekaki application, and am just wondering if you think it's silly to allow people to have more than one selection at a time?
  3400. 2015-12-31 17:24:48     copypaste       it doesn't really harm the application the way i made it, but i've never seen a paint program do that
  3401. 2015-12-31 17:24:56     copypaste       allow you to have multiple hovering selections
  3402. 2015-12-31 18:00:16     n-tech  one selection?
  3403. 2015-12-31 21:41:04     n-tech  yo you there?
  3404. 2015-12-31 21:41:13     n-tech  I was running a test on posts_cow and the table is completely unresponsive now
  3405. 2015-12-31 21:41:32     n-tech  It's only that table though and I've double checked locking
  3406. 2015-12-31 21:42:00     n-tech  MariaDB [8chan]> select * from posts_cow limit 10;
  3407. 2015-12-31 21:42:02     n-tech  this just times out
  3408. 2015-12-31 21:42:06     n-tech  _b doesn't
  3409. 2015-12-31 23:48:15     copypaste       i'm not sure how you'd "double check" locking
  3410. 2015-12-31 23:48:25     copypaste       according to what i read, locking is based on connection ID
  3411. 2015-12-31 23:48:47     copypaste       and can't be unlocked outside of that unless you know the lock name
  3412. 2015-12-31 23:48:57     copypaste       anyway, i restarted mysql for you
  3413. 2015-12-31 23:49:22     n-tech  if you restart MySQL does it fix it?
  3414. 2015-12-31 23:49:22     n-tech  also, stay up
  3415. 2015-12-31 23:49:37     copypaste       seems fixed now, but it'd be wise to test on small boards
  3416. 2015-12-31 23:49:43     copypaste       until you're sure that your locking whatever works
  3417. 2015-12-31 23:49:48     n-tech  i'm about to press the button
  3418. 2015-12-31 23:50:15     n-tech  I did
  3419. 2015-12-31 23:50:22     n-tech  I've fixed a lot of issues, /cow/ locking up was due to uh
  3420. 2015-12-31 23:50:26     n-tech  running tests repeatedly
  3421. 2015-12-31 23:50:30     n-tech  they overlapped or something idk
  3422. 2015-12-31 23:51:05     copypaste       i see
  3423. 2015-12-31 23:51:30     copypaste       sounds like a warzone outside, lol
  3424. 2015-12-31 23:51:34     copypaste       wonder how many will die this year
  3425. 2015-12-31 23:51:55     n-tech  it's amazing
  3426. 2015-12-31 23:51:56     n-tech  I feel pumped
  3427. 2015-12-31 23:52:00     n-tech  so much is going on right now
  3428. 2015-12-31 23:52:03     n-tech  this is the climax of the year
  3429. 2015-12-31 23:53:00     copypaste       the real show starts in 8 minutes
  3430. 2015-12-31 23:53:05     copypaste       after it's done, the sirens start
  3431. 2015-12-31 23:53:12     copypaste       i was here for last year's, crazy shit lmao
  3432. 2015-12-31 23:54:34     n-tech  http://i.imgur.com/pFxpobX.png
  3433. 2015-12-31 23:54:39     n-tech  attachments are fucking slow as hell
  3434. 2016-01-01 00:10:19     copypaste       i'm gonig to go to bed after the fireworks are done. call me if you need me
  3435. 2016-01-01 00:10:32     n-tech  alright, thanks for resetting cow
  3436. 2016-01-01 21:05:35             [copypaste away: Not here right now. since 2016-01-01 21:05:35+0800]
  3437. 2016-01-01 21:26:10             [copypaste back: gone 00:20:34]
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  3439. 2016-01-01 23:38:30             [copypaste back: gone 02:12:09]
  3440. 2016-01-01 23:39:40     copypaste       so... what ended up happening?
  3441. 2016-01-01 23:40:59     copypaste       Do we know when we plan to do part two?
  3442. 2016-01-01 23:49:00             [copypaste away: Not here right now. since 2016-01-01 23:49:00+0800]
  3443. 2016-01-01 23:56:56     n-tech  It's still running.
  3444. 2016-01-01 23:56:56     n-tech  Too many fucking attachments we should have just cleared the slate and let people opt in
  3445. 2016-01-01 23:56:57     n-tech  These fucking anime boards wtih their ten million attachments
  3446. 2016-01-01 23:56:57     n-tech  some drag on and on
  3447. 2016-01-02 00:11:57     <<      n-tech ([email protected]) has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
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  3449. 2016-01-02 01:28:30             [copypaste back: gone 01:39:29]
  3450. 2016-01-02 01:31:48     copypaste       We can still very well go for an opt-in import, your know. I think though that since we're so close to the finish line such action should only be takenif the second import is also unusable, however.
  3451. 2016-01-02 01:34:38     copypaste       But if you want opt-in we can absolutely announce tat. I think I'm not alone in my willingness to concede (almost) anything for a functional site
  3452. 2016-01-02 01:35:20     <<      n-tech ([email protected]:2E383ACB:9A9D32F5:IP) has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
  3453. 2016-01-02 01:35:52     copypaste       I was just heading to bed, but please keep me posted
  3454. 2016-01-02 01:35:52     --      n-tech: No such nick/channel
  3455. 2016-01-02 01:43:55             [copypaste away: Not here right now. since 2016-01-02 01:43:55+0800]
  3456. 2016-01-02 06:04:30     >>      n-tech ([email protected]:2E383ACB:9A9D32F5:IP) is back on server
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  3459. 2016-01-02 12:40:30             [copypaste back: gone 10:56:34]
  3460. 2016-01-02 12:41:03     copypaste       12:52:17 >> n-tech ([email protected]:2E383ACB:9A9D32F5:IP) is back on server
  3461. 2016-01-02 12:41:03     --      [n-tech] is away: Auto away at Sat Jan  2 03:38:49 2016
  3462. 2016-01-02 12:41:13     copypaste       01:28:30 [copypaste back: gone 01:39:29]
  3463. 2016-01-02 12:41:13     copypaste       01:31:48 copypaste We can still very well go for an opt-in import, your know. I think though that since we're so close to the
  3464. 2016-01-02 12:41:13     copypaste       finish line such action should only be takenif the second import is also unusable, however.
  3465. 2016-01-02 12:41:13     copypaste       01:34:38 copypaste But if you want opt-in we can absolutely announce tat. I think I'm not alone in my willingness to concede
  3466. 2016-01-02 12:41:13     copypaste       (almost) anything for a functional site
  3467. 2016-01-02 12:41:13     copypaste       01:35:20 << n-tech ([email protected]:2E383ACB:9A9D32F5:IP) has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
  3468. 2016-01-02 12:41:13     copypaste       01:35:52 copypaste I was just heading to bed, but please keep me posted
  3469. 2016-01-02 12:41:13     copypaste       01:35:52 -- n-tech: No such nick/channel
  3470. 2016-01-02 14:46:45             [copypaste away: Not here right now. since 2016-01-02 14:46:45+0800]
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  3478. 2016-01-02 18:32:05             [copypaste away: Not here right now. since 2016-01-02 18:32:05+0800]
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  3482. 2016-01-03 07:21:06     >>      n-tech ([email protected]:2E383ACB:9A9D32F5:IP) is back on server
  3483. 2016-01-03 07:34:20     n-tech  sorry
  3484. 2016-01-03 07:34:24     n-tech  my ZNC has been down for forever
  3485. 2016-01-03 07:34:26     n-tech  because of a DDoS
  3486. 2016-01-03 07:34:35     n-tech  we're there, i'm testing the final things
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  3506. 2016-01-04 20:33:07     n-tech  https://ghostbin.com/paste/rngmo
  3507. 2016-01-04 22:30:33     copypaste       it should be on most pages now
  3508. 2016-01-04 22:30:52     copypaste       (one hour after i updated the file,but what can you do(
  3509. 2016-01-04 22:31:06     n-tech  not much, czaks is playing ball now too
  3510. 2016-01-04 22:31:13     n-tech  he wants 8chan.pl to take over now lol
  3511. 2016-01-04 22:31:16     n-tech  i'm seeing shills for it
  3512. 2016-01-04 22:31:25     n-tech  8chan.pl already shit the bed though, /sp/ even left it for 76chan
  3513. 2016-01-04 22:31:54     n-tech  I need to import passwords, some people have changed theirs since December
  3514. 2016-01-04 22:32:00     copypaste       sure
  3515. 2016-01-04 22:32:03     n-tech  Benji and some guy that owns /objectivism/
  3516. 2016-01-04 22:32:13     copypaste       czaks is propping up my dead fork
  3517. 2016-01-04 22:32:22     n-tech  yea
  3518. 2016-01-04 22:32:22     copypaste       that\s amusing by itself
  3519. 2016-01-04 22:33:03     n-tech  I found out Nginx was running on 1 core
  3520. 2016-01-04 22:33:16     copypaste       ah, great
  3521. 2016-01-04 22:33:17     n-tech  you're supposed to have 1 process per core
  3522. 2016-01-04 22:33:25     n-tech  so now it runs on 8 and is twice as fast
  3523. 2016-01-04 22:33:26     copypaste       yeah, we should at least make it stable for one board
  3524. 2016-01-04 22:33:30     copypaste       before we start movingthingsover
  3525. 2016-01-04 22:33:45     n-tech  I offered to do /b/. our /b/ is really slow for some reason
  3526. 2016-01-04 22:33:48     n-tech  must be entirely due to speed issues
  3527. 2016-01-04 22:33:50     copypaste       sure
  3528. 2016-01-04 22:33:53     n-tech  /b/ is all about high rate shitposting
  3529. 2016-01-04 22:34:00     copypaste       do you want me to do /b/ on troi12
  3530. 2016-01-04 22:34:06     copypaste       force allpages over
  3531. 2016-01-04 22:34:16     copypaste       instead of a refresh hack
  3532. 2016-01-04 22:34:25     n-tech  Is troi12 set up?
  3533. 2016-01-04 22:34:35     copypaste       troi12 is an nginx load balancer
  3534. 2016-01-04 22:34:44     n-tech  ahhh ok
  3535. 2016-01-04 22:34:45     copypaste       when i put up a maintenange page, i upload it to troi12
  3536. 2016-01-04 22:34:48     copypaste       yeah
  3537. 2016-01-04 22:35:04     n-tech  yeah we can do that
  3538. 2016-01-04 22:35:10     n-tech  you can actually just do
  3539. 2016-01-04 22:35:22     n-tech  8ch.net/b/* -> beta.8ch.net/b/*
  3540. 2016-01-04 22:35:25     n-tech  because the legacy routes work
  3541. 2016-01-04 22:35:28     n-tech  I tried them out
  3542. 2016-01-04 22:35:35     copypaste       ok
  3543. 2016-01-04 22:35:37     copypaste       now ?
  3544. 2016-01-04 22:36:34     n-tech  Don't think I'll be any more ready
  3545. 2016-01-04 22:36:45     n-tech  My only fear is Memcached crashing, I'm going to be vigilant for that
  3546. 2016-01-04 22:36:49     copypaste       OK
  3547. 2016-01-04 22:42:49     copypaste       redirect done
  3548. 2016-01-04 22:42:59     copypaste         location ~* ^/b/ {
  3549. 2016-01-04 22:42:59     copypaste           return 302 $scheme://beta.8ch.net$request_uri;
  3550. 2016-01-04 22:42:59     copypaste         }
  3551. 2016-01-04 22:44:47     n-tech  Slow. Postgres and PHP are pretty heavy.
  3552. 2016-01-04 22:45:05     n-tech  CPU: 96.4% user,  0.0% nice,  3.2% system,  0.3% interrupt,  0.1% idle
  3553. 2016-01-04 22:45:08     n-tech  That's PgSQL
  3554. 2016-01-04 22:45:14     n-tech  CPU: 78.5% user,  0.0% nice,  5.4% system,  0.1% interrupt, 16.0% idle
  3555. 2016-01-04 22:45:20     n-tech  That's PHP+Nginx+FFMPEG
  3556. 2016-01-04 22:45:38     copypaste       want to go with a smaller board?
  3557. 2016-01-04 22:45:53     n-tech  I'm worried now, /b/ was slow as shit
  3558. 2016-01-04 22:45:56     n-tech  How can it possibly bottom out from it
  3559. 2016-01-04 22:46:12     n-tech  It feels like I'm missing something
  3560. 2016-01-04 22:46:28     copypaste       this is why i didn't reimage servers, not to say "i told you so", but
  3561. 2016-01-04 22:46:32     copypaste       without a stable test case
  3562. 2016-01-04 22:46:42     copypaste       it's too dangerous to switch everything over and hope for the best
  3563. 2016-01-04 22:46:56     n-tech  FUCK
  3564. 2016-01-04 22:47:00     copypaste       ?
  3565. 2016-01-04 22:47:03     n-tech  I found something
  3566. 2016-01-04 22:47:08     n-tech  I disabled cache
  3567. 2016-01-04 22:47:09     n-tech  on a function
  3568. 2016-01-04 22:47:12     n-tech  it's running queries each load
  3569. 2016-01-04 22:53:45     n-tech  Okay that's great
  3570. 2016-01-04 22:53:49     n-tech  Chopped pgsql down by 90%
  3571. 2016-01-04 22:53:56     n-tech  deep breaths
  3572. 2016-01-04 22:55:29     copypaste       let me know if i should swutch /b/ back
  3573. 2016-01-04 22:55:35     copypaste       it's not loading for me
  3574. 2016-01-04 22:55:41     copypaste       or if you need more time that's fine too
  3575. 2016-01-04 22:55:47     copypaste       just don't leave me hanging, haha
  3576. 2016-01-04 22:56:05     n-tech  It works for me. Are you sure? it takes a second because PHP-FPM is slammed against the ceiling but it's there
  3577. 2016-01-04 22:56:21     n-tech  Postgres is at about 10%
  3578. 2016-01-04 22:56:25     n-tech  It was entirely because I was skipping caching
  3579. 2016-01-04 22:57:03     n-tech  How about a rule like
  3580. 2016-01-04 22:57:03     copypaste       oh, yeah i got a "whoops looks like somethign went wrong"
  3581. 2016-01-04 22:57:05     copypaste       but a reload worked
  3582. 2016-01-04 22:57:15     copypaste       a post even worked
  3583. 2016-01-04 22:57:18     copypaste       we can let it run
  3584. 2016-01-04 22:57:19     n-tech  That was from me restarting pgsql
  3585. 2016-01-04 22:57:23     n-tech  Alternatively
  3586. 2016-01-04 22:57:26     n-tech  we can do something like this
  3587. 2016-01-04 22:57:35     n-tech  redirect all boards where boards != x,y,z
  3588. 2016-01-04 22:57:40     n-tech  like i'm not sure how that route would look
  3589. 2016-01-04 22:57:50     n-tech  you'd need a regex for all alphanumeric combinations and then an exclusion group
  3590. 2016-01-04 22:57:53     n-tech  because this is quite slow
  3591. 2016-01-04 22:57:58     copypaste       i don't know if nginx supports "not" regex
  3592. 2016-01-04 22:59:11     copypaste       yep it can be
  3593. 2016-01-04 22:59:55     copypaste       ^/(?!(x|y|z))/
  3594. 2016-01-04 23:00:23     copypaste       easy
  3595. 2016-01-04 23:00:34     n-tech  sec
  3596. 2016-01-04 23:03:04     n-tech  ([a-zA-Z0-9]+)(?!(v|pol|b|n|tech|furry|k|co|tv|a|leftypol|cuteboys|hebe|cow|tg|christian|r9k|monster|next|wx|pone|bane|fit|argentina))
  3597. 2016-01-04 23:03:06     n-tech  http://regexr.com/
  3598. 2016-01-04 23:03:09     n-tech  trying to get this to work
  3599. 2016-01-04 23:03:13     n-tech  these are all boards > 100 active users
  3600. 2016-01-04 23:04:17     copypaste       i can do that
  3601. 2016-01-04 23:04:25     n-tech  this doesn't work, don't use that
  3602. 2016-01-04 23:04:25     copypaste       now ?
  3603. 2016-01-04 23:04:31     n-tech  I'm trying to get it to work haha
  3604. 2016-01-04 23:04:33     copypaste       ok
  3605. 2016-01-04 23:04:35     copypaste       lol
  3606. 2016-01-04 23:04:36     n-tech  the negative lookahead is dysfunctional
  3607. 2016-01-04 23:04:40     n-tech  try and get it to work
  3608. 2016-01-04 23:05:02     copypaste       i think itll work as is
  3609. 2016-01-04 23:05:13     copypaste       in nginx at least
  3610. 2016-01-04 23:05:19     copypaste       ( PCRE (
  3611. 2016-01-04 23:05:23     copypaste       )*
  3612. 2016-01-04 23:06:16     n-tech  If you think so it's worth a shot
  3613. 2016-01-04 23:06:26     n-tech  we can narrow it down too if it doesn't, only match boards 0-9
  3614. 2016-01-04 23:06:28     n-tech  and then 0-c
  3615. 2016-01-04 23:06:29     n-tech  etc
  3616. 2016-01-04 23:06:31     n-tech  still using the negative
  3617. 2016-01-04 23:10:21     copypaste       unfortunately it didn't work
  3618. 2016-01-04 23:10:39     copypaste         location ~* ^/(?!(v|pol|b|n|tech|furry|k|co|tv|a|leftypol|cuteboys|hebe|cow|tg|christian|r9k|monster|next|wx|pone|bane|fit|argentina))/ {
  3619. 2016-01-04 23:10:43     copypaste       specifically, did not
  3620. 2016-01-04 23:10:46     n-tech  sec
  3621. 2016-01-04 23:11:03     copypaste       oh, we should also redirect create.php if we do this
  3622. 2016-01-04 23:11:08     copypaste       just as an aside
  3623. 2016-01-04 23:13:44     n-tech  (?!(v|pol|b|n|tech|furry|k|co|tv|a|leftypol|cuteboys|hebe|cow|tg|christian|r9k|monster|next|wx|pone|bane|fit|argentina))([a-zA-Z0-9]+)
  3624. 2016-01-04 23:13:49     n-tech  this works but it uh
  3625. 2016-01-04 23:13:55     n-tech  it matches ow in cow
  3626. 2016-01-04 23:14:03     n-tech  i'm not sure what that translates to in nginx haha
  3627. 2016-01-04 23:14:32     n-tech  \b(?!(v|pol|b|n|tech|furry|k|co|tv|a|leftypol|cuteboys|hebe|cow|tg|christian|r9k|monster|next|wx|pone|bane|fit|argentina))([a-zA-Z0-9]+)\b
  3628. 2016-01-04 23:14:33     n-tech  ahhh
  3629. 2016-01-04 23:14:39     n-tech  adding \b for boundaries
  3630. 2016-01-04 23:14:43     n-tech  that appears to straighten it out
  3631. 2016-01-04 23:14:54     copypaste       but the nginx versionhas //
  3632. 2016-01-04 23:15:02     copypaste       those are the boundaries
  3633. 2016-01-04 23:15:20     copypaste       should i delete those
  3634. 2016-01-04 23:15:24     n-tech  that works too
  3635. 2016-01-04 23:15:29     n-tech  here look use this regexer thing
  3636. 2016-01-04 23:15:35     copypaste       yeah i did
  3637. 2016-01-04 23:15:40     copypaste       but the regex i pasted above
  3638. 2016-01-04 23:15:45     copypaste       is exactly what nginx is using
  3639. 2016-01-04 23:15:49     n-tech  if you use / instead of \b
  3640. 2016-01-04 23:15:50     copypaste       it's still live, i didn't take it off\
  3641. 2016-01-04 23:15:52     n-tech  it matches precisely
  3642. 2016-01-04 23:16:06     copypaste       it doesn't work for nginx,i don't know why
  3643. 2016-01-04 23:16:13     copypaste       it seems to totally ignore the block
  3644. 2016-01-04 23:16:54     copypaste       hmm, i have an idea
  3645. 2016-01-04 23:17:02     n-tech  \/(?!v|pol|b|n|tech|furry|k|co|tv|a|leftypol|cuteboys|hebe|cow|tg|christian|r9k|monster|next|wx|pone|bane|fit|argentina)([a-zA-Z0-9]+)\/
  3646. 2016-01-04 23:17:02     n-tech  ?
  3647. 2016-01-04 23:17:09     n-tech  this way the first capture group is the word you want
  3648. 2016-01-04 23:17:14     n-tech  this matches /egy/ and the first group is egy
  3649. 2016-01-04 23:19:30     n-tech  is /b/ still forwarded?
  3650. 2016-01-04 23:20:51     copypaste       nothing's forwarded
  3651. 2016-01-04 23:21:20     copypaste       it's forwarded again,i reverted my failed idea
  3652. 2016-01-04 23:21:48     copypaste       (i made 2 groupss, one matching, one not matching(
  3653. 2016-01-04 23:22:07     copypaste       (the non matching just 404'd, missing the location block)
  3654. 2016-01-04 23:22:25     copypaste       (meaning, ^/(?!(v|pol|b|n|tech|furry|k|co|tv|a|leftypol|cuteboys|hebe|cow|tg|christian|r9k|monster|next|wx|pone|bane|f
  3655. 2016-01-04 23:22:32     copypaste       it|argentina))/ is nosnense as far as nginx is concerned)
  3656. 2016-01-04 23:22:46     n-tech  can you ghsotbin the full script
  3657. 2016-01-04 23:23:00     copypaste       the one i just tried,or
  3658. 2016-01-04 23:23:06     n-tech  the whole thing
  3659. 2016-01-04 23:23:19     copypaste       the one i just tried, or
  3660. 2016-01-04 23:23:23     copypaste       the one up now
  3661. 2016-01-04 23:23:31     n-tech  the one with the negative lookaheads including everything else
  3662. 2016-01-04 23:24:14     copypaste       rather not put it on pastebin since it has lots of sensitive things in it
  3663. 2016-01-04 23:24:18     copypaste       IPs, secret routes, and so on
  3664. 2016-01-04 23:24:30     n-tech  Okay, just the block with the negative lookahead
  3665. 2016-01-04 23:25:35     copypaste       https://ghostbin.com/paste/3j2ms
  3666. 2016-01-04 23:26:41     copypaste       that doesn't work, but just ~* ^/b/ does work
  3667. 2016-01-04 23:44:03     n-tech  https://ghostbin.com/paste/mm2sg
  3668. 2016-01-04 23:50:30             [copypaste away: Not here right now. since 2016-01-04 23:50:30+0800]
  3669. 2016-01-04 23:52:46     n-tech  You might want to stop forwarding /b/. It's too much.
  3670. 2016-01-04 23:55:45             [copypaste back: gone 00:05:14]
  3671. 2016-01-04 23:56:42     copypaste       sorry, putty crashed and i didn't notice because the screen looks the same it just freezes
  3672. 2016-01-04 23:56:54     copypaste       and for some reason winderps minimized the "software caused connection abort"
  3673. 2016-01-04 23:57:01     n-tech  lol
  3674. 2016-01-04 23:57:04     n-tech  why are you on windows?
  3675. 2016-01-04 23:57:04     copypaste       i installed cygwin/mosh just now so it won't happen again
  3676. 2016-01-04 23:57:08     copypaste       i'm using my surface
  3677. 2016-01-04 23:57:18     n-tech  btw do you know where memcached.conf is on freebsd
  3678. 2016-01-04 23:57:27     n-tech  or the rc.conf
  3679. 2016-01-04 23:57:48     copypaste       probably in /usr/local, mlocate would also know
  3680. 2016-01-04 23:57:56     n-tech  wait I got it
  3681. 2016-01-04 23:58:10     copypaste       ok
  3682. 2016-01-04 23:58:52     n-tech  did you get the ghostbin I sent you?
  3683. 2016-01-04 23:59:59     copypaste       i stopped forwarding /b/, let me know when it can be forwarded again
  3684. 2016-01-05 00:00:33     copypaste       mm2sg? i see it now
  3685. 2016-01-05 00:00:37     copypaste       did you test that locally?
  3686. 2016-01-05 00:00:39     copypaste       i can put it up if so
  3687. 2016-01-05 00:01:18     n-tech  yes and yes, but give me a sec
  3688. 2016-01-05 00:01:31     copypaste       ok, tell me when
  3689. 2016-01-05 00:15:10     n-tech  Okay, so the issue is that Memcached is unstable.
  3690. 2016-01-05 00:15:21     n-tech  This is because we are storing string data that is larger that 1MiB
  3691. 2016-01-05 00:15:43     n-tech  I'm curious if it may be a good idea to switch to Redis
  3692. 2016-01-05 00:16:09     copypaste       oh yes absolutely
  3693. 2016-01-05 00:16:14     copypaste       that's available?
  3694. 2016-01-05 00:16:15     copypaste       i love redis
  3695. 2016-01-05 00:16:17     n-tech  ye
  3696. 2016-01-05 00:16:28     n-tech  okay set it up :---DD i'll do some testing on local while you're doing that
  3697. 2016-01-05 00:16:33     copypaste       oke
  3698. 2016-01-05 00:16:41     copypaste       i used redis on a project i was paid $10k for
  3699. 2016-01-05 00:16:46     copypaste       3 years back
  3700. 2016-01-05 00:17:08     n-tech  nice, im glad you're familiar with it
  3701. 2016-01-05 00:17:13     copypaste       what server do you want iton?
  3702. 2016-01-05 00:17:25     n-tech  Can you scale horizontally?
  3703. 2016-01-05 00:17:36     copypaste       redis can yes
  3704. 2016-01-05 00:17:37     n-tech  if so, try putting it on both 5 and 10
  3705. 2016-01-05 00:17:56     copypaste       shouldn't we see how it behaveson one server first
  3706. 2016-01-05 00:18:01     n-tech  ye, so just 5
  3707. 2016-01-05 00:18:02     copypaste       before scaling
  3708. 2016-01-05 00:18:04     n-tech  if it works we can do 10
  3709. 2016-01-05 00:18:05     copypaste       ok
  3710. 2016-01-05 00:18:32     copypaste       http://redis.io/topics/partitioning
  3711. 2016-01-05 00:29:50     copypaste       redis is on port 6379, it requires the password [pw removed]
  3712. 2016-01-05 00:30:15     copypaste       it is configured in -volatile- mode, it is configured -not- to write to the disk but to store in memory up to 6GB, upon which limit reached it will begin evicting keys
  3713. 2016-01-05 00:30:38     copypaste       so basically i configured it like memcached
  3714. 2016-01-05 00:31:11     n-tech  that sounds perfect, i'm updating the project now to include a missing library
  3715. 2016-01-05 00:31:17     copypaste       ok
  3716. 2016-01-05 00:32:09     copypaste       that $10k project used redis as a job queue, btw, so it had different requirements.
  3717. 2016-01-05 00:32:19     copypaste       i've never used it this way before, but it can't be that different .
  3718. 2016-01-05 00:42:03     copypaste       works ok?
  3719. 2016-01-05 00:42:21     n-tech  updating with composer is gratingly slow
  3720. 2016-01-05 00:42:28     n-tech  Reading composer.json of laravel/framework (v4.0.0-BETA4)
  3721. 2016-01-05 00:42:32     n-tech  like come on why the fuck do i need to do this
  3722. 2016-01-05 00:42:35     n-tech  i'm just pulling one thing
  3723. 2016-01-05 00:43:13     copypaste       ah yes, composer is slow; i also noticed this
  3724. 2016-01-05 00:43:24     copypaste       npm has a plus over this, it's at least fast
  3725. 2016-01-05 00:43:31     copypaste       and you can see what it's doing if you turn on the logging
  3726. 2016-01-05 00:46:21     n-tech  "The catalog is unusable anyway, it only contains the first 100 threads.
  3727. 2016-01-05 00:46:21     n-tech  "
  3728. 2016-01-05 00:46:23     n-tech  I hate everyone
  3729. 2016-01-05 00:46:39     copypaste       ignore them then
  3730. 2016-01-05 00:46:49     copypaste       i listen in emergencies only, like when i couldn't contact you
  3731. 2016-01-05 00:46:54     copypaste       as soon as i could, i stopped listening
  3732. 2016-01-05 00:46:56     copypaste       and so it goes
  3733. 2016-01-05 00:50:42     n-tech  127.0.0.1:6379> KEYS *
  3734. 2016-01-05 00:50:43     n-tech   1) "laravel:tag:board.test.pages:key"
  3735. 2016-01-05 00:50:44     n-tech  dude fuck yeah
  3736. 2016-01-05 00:50:46     n-tech  i love it when shit just works
  3737. 2016-01-05 01:00:02     n-tech  https://beta.8ch.net/
  3738. 2016-01-05 01:00:07     n-tech  welcome to infinity redis
  3739. 2016-01-05 01:18:20     copypaste       direct /b/ again?
  3740. 2016-01-05 01:18:29     copypaste       i want to go to bed now. maybe better tomorrow
  3741. 2016-01-05 01:18:39     n-tech  try the small boards. Let me try one last tweak to that regex
  3742. 2016-01-05 01:18:45     n-tech  oh okay
  3743. 2016-01-05 01:18:45     copypaste       ok, small boards good idea
  3744. 2016-01-05 01:18:50     copypaste       show me the regex, i can do it
  3745. 2016-01-05 01:18:54     copypaste       small boards barely work and need most support
  3746. 2016-01-05 01:19:30     n-tech  https://ghostbin.com/paste/mm2sg
  3747. 2016-01-05 01:20:09     copypaste       and done
  3748. 2016-01-05 01:20:18     copypaste       it works
  3749. 2016-01-05 01:20:32     copypaste       not to impose, but can you re-import /jim/? he uploaded like a whole album today to his board
  3750. 2016-01-05 01:20:40     copypaste       i know you don't get along, but i'm sure he'd appreciate not having to do it all over again
  3751. 2016-01-05 01:20:49     n-tech  yeah I can
  3752. 2016-01-05 01:21:03     copypaste       he was also linking it
  3753. 2016-01-05 01:21:04     copypaste       thanks
  3754. 2016-01-05 01:21:27     copypaste       unfortunately it seems like the beta is timing out :\
  3755. 2016-01-05 01:21:44     n-tech  yea that slammed it
  3756. 2016-01-05 01:21:47     n-tech  like harder than I can imagine
  3757. 2016-01-05 01:21:54     copypaste       ah, sorry
  3758. 2016-01-05 01:21:56     copypaste       big boards still work, so the regex worked
  3759. 2016-01-05 01:22:00     n-tech  47408 service       1  52    0   116M 19564K RUN     1   2:31  22.75% nginx
  3760. 2016-01-05 01:22:00     n-tech  47411 service       1  52    0   100M 16344K RUN     3   2:24  17.77% nginx
  3761. 2016-01-05 01:22:00     n-tech  47412 service       1  52    0   108M 16848K RUN     5   2:26  15.87% nginx
  3762. 2016-01-05 01:22:00     n-tech  47409 service       1  47    0   104M 15724K RUN     5   2:28  15.48% nginx
  3763. 2016-01-05 01:22:00     n-tech  47410 service       1  52    0 98092K 15684K RUN     6   2:36  15.28% nginx
  3764. 2016-01-05 01:22:00     n-tech  47407 service       1  47    0   108M 16380K RUN     6   2:24  15.09% nginx
  3765. 2016-01-05 01:22:02     n-tech  47406 service       1  44    0   108M 16876K RUN     7   2:17  14.70% nginx
  3766. 2016-01-05 01:22:04     n-tech  47405 service       1  44    0   112M 19956K RUN     7   2:22  14.36% nginx
  3767. 2016-01-05 01:22:06     n-tech  holy shit
  3768. 2016-01-05 01:22:08     n-tech  yeah end this
  3769. 2016-01-05 01:22:12     n-tech  lol
  3770. 2016-01-05 01:22:27     n-tech  we'll tweak it so that the first letter has to be like
  3771. 2016-01-05 01:22:31     n-tech  [0-9]
  3772. 2016-01-05 01:22:34     copypaste       revert?
  3773. 2016-01-05 01:22:35     n-tech  then [0-9a-c]
  3774. 2016-01-05 01:22:35     copypaste       OK
  3775. 2016-01-05 01:22:37     n-tech  yea please
  3776. 2016-01-05 01:22:39     n-tech  that won't work
  3777. 2016-01-05 01:22:41     n-tech  /b/ was better
  3778. 2016-01-05 01:22:52     copypaste       reverted
  3779. 2016-01-05 01:22:54     copypaste       want /b/ again then?
  3780. 2016-01-05 01:23:08     n-tech  won't be fast enough, sleep on it and we'll try a smaller section
  3781. 2016-01-05 01:23:13     n-tech  we need more computers or we can't do this
  3782. 2016-01-05 01:23:18     copypaste       OK
  3783. 2016-01-05 01:23:42     copypaste       i'm worried we don't have enough computers
  3784. 2016-01-05 01:23:49     copypaste       once we get a smaller section working, i want to consider varnish
  3785. 2016-01-05 01:23:54     copypaste       we could varnish anonymous requests
  3786. 2016-01-05 01:24:03     copypaste       (with no login cookies sent)
  3787. 2016-01-05 01:24:11     copypaste       and then clear the varnish cache using the events you implemented
  3788. 2016-01-05 01:24:11     n-tech  we could do the same for redis if you want
  3789. 2016-01-05 01:24:16     copypaste       that's how i keep 8chan working
  3790. 2016-01-05 01:24:38     copypaste       i think a combo of varnish+redis would be best
  3791. 2016-01-05 01:24:53     copypaste       but, up to you. varnish is pretty nice
  3792. 2016-01-05 01:25:07     copypaste       i'm going to bed now though, so you can continue to think on it, which section of boards would be better, and so on
  3793. 2016-01-05 01:25:26     n-tech  well don't forget
  3794. 2016-01-05 01:25:27     copypaste       we at least have to know how much traffic one server can withstand before we know by extrapolation if we have enough computers even with everything switched over
  3795. 2016-01-05 01:25:33     copypaste       i'm not doing this just 2 be a dick
  3796. 2016-01-05 01:25:35     n-tech  that this is the alpha volley
  3797. 2016-01-05 01:25:41     n-tech  you sent thousands of people over for a first request at once
  3798. 2016-01-05 01:25:48     n-tech  no caching in the world would save that
  3799. 2016-01-05 01:25:59     copypaste       yes but it would calm down in like 10 seconds
  3800. 2016-01-05 01:26:04     copypaste       same thing happens when i restart varnish
  3801. 2016-01-05 01:26:08     copypaste       (cache clears)
  3802. 2016-01-05 01:26:12     copypaste       sometimes it even gives a few people 503
  3803. 2016-01-05 01:26:16     copypaste       but it recovers quickly
  3804. 2016-01-05 01:26:20     copypaste       (" Guru Meditation ")
  3805. 2016-01-05 01:29:39     copypaste       oh, did you try out nginxtop?
  3806. 2016-01-05 01:29:52     copypaste       8chan troi12 gets 35 requests per second at peak, so that's what i mean by extrapolation
  3807. 2016-01-05 01:30:02     copypaste       once we have a stable infinity next, we see how many tps it can handle
  3808. 2016-01-05 01:30:10     copypaste       then just see if we have enough computers
  3809. 2016-01-05 01:30:20     copypaste       if next needs more computers than current 8chan, that is of course a problem
  3810. 2016-01-05 01:30:26     copypaste       the upgrade was supposed to use less resources after all
  3811. 2016-01-05 01:30:36     n-tech  okay, if you want to try one more thing before bed
  3812. 2016-01-05 01:30:39     copypaste       and convincing jim to buy more will be next to impossible
  3813. 2016-01-05 01:30:39     copypaste       sure
  3814. 2016-01-05 01:32:10     n-tech  this isn't good, it won't get up
  3815. 2016-01-05 01:32:10     n-tech  lol
  3816. 2016-01-05 01:32:18     copypaste       i stopped directing traffic to it
  3817. 2016-01-05 01:32:59     copypaste       i see beta.8, it just says Whoops
  3818. 2016-01-05 01:33:10     n-tech  Operation timed out [tcp://127.0.0.1:6379]
  3819. 2016-01-05 01:33:19     copypaste       oh, redis died
  3820. 2016-01-05 01:33:22     copypaste       somehow
  3821. 2016-01-05 01:33:27     copypaste       perhaps it's the weakest link - bad config
  3822. 2016-01-05 01:33:40     copypaste       /usr/local/etc/redis.conf
  3823. 2016-01-05 01:33:44     copypaste       if you want to research it
  3824. 2016-01-05 01:34:10     copypaste       and `service redis restart` to reset the bugger
  3825. 2016-01-05 01:39:35     copypaste       headed to bed now. let's continue this in the morning
  3826. 2016-01-05 01:41:29     n-tech  yeah, later
  3827. 2016-01-05 02:52:57     n-tech  https://beta.8ch.net/
  3828. 2016-01-05 02:53:00     n-tech  jim's in
  3829. 2016-01-05 02:53:01     n-tech  er
  3830. 2016-01-05 02:53:03     n-tech  https://beta.8ch.net/jim
  3831. 2016-01-05 06:44:30     n-tech  I'm monitoring the situation on top
  3832. 2016-01-05 06:44:37     n-tech  it goes good for a number of hours and then things fall apart very quickly
  3833. 2016-01-05 06:44:44     n-tech  right now the site gets over 250 pph and that's more than /b/
  3834. 2016-01-05 06:44:57     n-tech  but sometimse the entire system locks up and all php-fpm instances go into "PFAULT" state
  3835. 2016-01-05 06:45:08     n-tech  It becomes completely unusuable and I have to restart the service
  3836. 2016-01-05 11:01:51     copypaste       pfault eh
  3837. 2016-01-05 11:07:39     n-tech  ye
  3838. 2016-01-05 11:07:44     n-tech  the other issue is that ffmpeg is a beast
  3839. 2016-01-05 11:07:51     n-tech  I'm adding throttling now, in case it's a layer 7
  3840. 2016-01-05 11:08:02     n-tech  it's been stable since I sent you that message though
  3841. 2016-01-05 11:08:14     n-tech  but times keep going down
  3842. 2016-01-05 11:08:31     n-tech  I gave pgsql more resources, gave nginx more resources, added some more caching
  3843. 2016-01-05 11:08:35     copypaste       times?
  3844. 2016-01-05 11:08:39     n-tech  load times
  3845. 2016-01-05 11:08:42     copypaste       ok
  3846. 2016-01-05 11:08:57     n-tech  we're staying above 150 pph too
  3847. 2016-01-05 11:09:00     n-tech  hitting 300 at times
  3848. 2016-01-05 11:09:05     n-tech  people are using the site without being forced
  3849. 2016-01-05 11:09:06     n-tech  good signs
  3850. 2016-01-05 11:09:13     n-tech  we were above /b/ at night
  3851. 2016-01-05 11:09:37     copypaste       which boards are forwarded?
  3852. 2016-01-05 11:09:42     n-tech  none
  3853. 2016-01-05 11:09:54     n-tech  small boards are hopping on because of whitescreening I think
  3854. 2016-01-05 11:09:59     copypaste       right now pph isnt the problem for beta, views are
  3855. 2016-01-05 11:10:04     n-tech  I asked people to email me a few hours ago if they wanted to be first to migrate
  3856. 2016-01-05 11:10:10     copypaste       i see
  3857. 2016-01-05 11:10:23     n-tech  well i haven't added any, but I've gotten requests
  3858. 2016-01-05 11:10:33     copypaste       have to forward something then measure tps
  3859. 2016-01-05 11:21:52     n-tech  https://ghostbin.com/paste/mm2sg
  3860. 2016-01-05 11:22:39     n-tech  http://i.imgur.com/ub0vukY.png
  3861. 2016-01-05 11:22:42     n-tech  this is the match examples
  3862. 2016-01-05 11:23:08     n-tech  we'll do it in chunks. i'm not sure what else you need to know to be confirmed.
  3863. 2016-01-05 11:23:19     n-tech  would you like to do tests while i sleep or
  3864. 2016-01-05 11:23:46     n-tech  I didn't write in a varnish type HTML caching because I'm not sure how much I can rely on Redis
  3865. 2016-01-05 11:24:02     n-tech  If it's crashed before I'm afraid that trying to get it to cache more will do nothing
  3866. 2016-01-05 11:24:10     n-tech  the problems arise when a move happens and a bunch gets recached
  3867. 2016-01-05 11:24:13     n-tech  no amount of caching can fix that
  3868. 2016-01-05 11:24:42     copypaste       instead of using varnish type, probably better to use actual varnish
  3869. 2016-01-05 11:24:51     copypaste       i've never seen pfault state, it's worrisome actually
  3870. 2016-01-05 11:24:54     copypaste       it could even be a php bug
  3871. 2016-01-05 11:24:55     n-tech  I don't know what Varnish is and I don't trust it.
  3872. 2016-01-05 11:25:01     n-tech  I googled it and got one hit about it
  3873. 2016-01-05 11:25:09     n-tech  You may need to update php7
  3874. 2016-01-05 11:25:15     n-tech  we're still using a pre-release version from September.
  3875. 2016-01-05 11:25:18     copypaste       tons of sites use varnish, lol
  3876. 2016-01-05 11:25:20     copypaste       one hit
  3877. 2016-01-05 11:25:28     n-tech  one good hit
  3878. 2016-01-05 11:25:28     copypaste       no we're not
  3879. 2016-01-05 11:25:33     copypaste       i updated it to 7.0.1
  3880. 2016-01-05 11:25:48     n-tech  okay. i don't know then. i saw a freebsd-questions email about it
  3881. 2016-01-05 11:26:01     copypaste       yes so did i but it was highly technical
  3882. 2016-01-05 11:26:05     copypaste       something something kernel bug
  3883. 2016-01-05 11:26:08     copypaste       that's the worrisome part
  3884. 2016-01-05 11:26:46     copypaste       i'llforward those boards and measure tps
  3885. 2016-01-05 11:26:53     copypaste       they should be super small so it should not crash
  3886. 2016-01-05 11:27:04     copypaste       i'll try to figure out thte cause of pfault as well i suppose
  3887. 2016-01-05 11:27:09     n-tech  add |ara too
  3888. 2016-01-05 11:27:11     n-tech  yeah
  3889. 2016-01-05 11:27:14     copypaste       php 7.0.1 remains the most recent version of php
  3890. 2016-01-05 11:27:21     copypaste       so noupdate available
  3891. 2016-01-05 12:13:11     n-tech  Am I good for sleep or do you need me to test connections?
  3892. 2016-01-05 12:13:23     copypaste       you're good
  3893. 2016-01-05 12:13:31     n-tech  alright, wake me up if you need me
  3894. 2016-01-05 12:13:39     copypaste       i thought you went to \bed already
  3895. 2016-01-05 12:13:42     copypaste       lol
  3896. 2016-01-05 12:13:49     n-tech  sleep is for the weak
  3897. 2016-01-05 17:47:05     copypaste       using ngxtop i've developed some theories about why next is slow
  3898. 2016-01-05 17:47:11     copypaste       i think i've tracked the page being attacked
  3899. 2016-01-05 17:47:16     copypaste        /threads.json
  3900. 2016-01-05 17:47:51     copypaste       we're recieving 800 requests per second, the bulk of which are to threads.json files e.g. /b/threads.json, /v/threads.json
  3901. 2016-01-05 17:48:11     copypaste       my theory is that you've focused mostly on html caching but not at all on json cahing
  3902. 2016-01-05 17:48:36     copypaste       given this huge req. volume i decided not to target any 8ch traffic to beta until you see this
  3903. 2016-01-05 17:48:48     copypaste       ngxtop is installed to troi12 and troi05
  3904. 2016-01-05 17:51:18     copypaste       for your purposes and information
  3905. 2016-01-05 17:52:13     copypaste       https://ghostbin.com/paste/xkon2 and here's what i saw during my test
  3906. 2016-01-05 17:52:37     copypaste       keeping in mind that the average is 35 req/sec, but for 8chan a /threads.json is a simple bounce because it's an on disk file
  3907. 2016-01-05 17:52:44     copypaste       so 8chan won't notice this type of `DoS'
  3908. 2016-01-05 17:53:21     copypaste       it could also not be a dos, however unlikely
  3909. 2016-01-05 18:16:45     copypaste       varnish would be a very quick to cache json responses, as far as i can tell
  3910. 2016-01-05 18:16:57     copypaste       coupled with events calling purge as in 8chan live software
  3911. 2016-01-05 22:13:17     n-tech  Are you still awake?
  3912. 2016-01-05 22:13:36     copypaste       yep\
  3913. 2016-01-05 22:15:10     n-tech  The beta site looks like it was down for 5 hours
  3914. 2016-01-05 22:15:16     n-tech  It had a message saying "Restart Redis"
  3915. 2016-01-05 22:15:18     n-tech  Did you see it?
  3916. 2016-01-05 22:16:28     n-tech  32263:M 05 Jan 00:42:58.377 * Redis 3.0.4 (00000000/0) 64 bit, standalone mode, port 6379, pid 32263 ready to start.
  3917. 2016-01-05 22:16:28     n-tech  32263:M 05 Jan 00:42:58.377 # Server started, Redis version 3.0.4
  3918. 2016-01-05 22:16:28     n-tech  32263:M 05 Jan 00:42:58.377 * The server is now ready to accept connections on port 6379
  3919. 2016-01-05 22:16:28     n-tech  89595:M 05 Jan 14:11:25.976 * Redis 3.0.4 (00000000/0) 64 bit, standalone mode, port 6379, pid 89595 ready to start.
  3920. 2016-01-05 22:16:33     n-tech  absolutely no explanation for it, awesome
  3921. 2016-01-05 22:17:09     copypaste       I mostly focused on finding out what 8ch is being requested most
  3922. 2016-01-05 22:17:37     n-tech  But you didn't see that the beta was completely down for the last 5 hours?
  3923. 2016-01-05 22:17:52     copypaste       I saw it but thought it intentional
  3924. 2016-01-05 22:18:07     copypaste       It said to buy you
  3925. 2016-01-05 22:18:17     copypaste       bug*
  3926. 2016-01-05 22:18:27     n-tech  okay, well if you see that message
  3927. 2016-01-05 22:18:31     n-tech  it means redis has crashed
  3928. 2016-01-05 22:18:36     n-tech  and you need to do "service redis restart"
  3929. 2016-01-05 22:18:41     n-tech  people were using the beta and couldn't for 5 hours
  3930. 2016-01-05 22:18:42     n-tech  I was asleep
  3931. 2016-01-05 22:38:46     n-tech  benji is claiming that next is breached but refuses to give any information aside from "it puts bo accounts in danger"
  3932. 2016-01-05 22:39:00     n-tech  not sure how to react so I just said there's bitcoin bug bounties for responsible disclosure but that's all I can do
  3933. 2016-01-05 22:40:02     copypaste       This is fun lol
  3934. 2016-01-05 22:40:44     n-tech  I doubt he's telling the truth because Laravel does all the work with SQL Injections and I've made double-plus sure that the models protect key values in JSON output
  3935. 2016-01-05 22:41:31     n-tech  it reminds me of Kiwi Farms when we had gamerfood
  3936. 2016-01-05 22:41:33     n-tech  they'd be like
  3937. 2016-01-05 22:41:36     n-tech  WE HAVE ALL YOUR USER INFORMATION
  3938. 2016-01-05 22:41:38     n-tech  and i'd be like
  3939. 2016-01-05 22:41:41     n-tech  ok show me my password hash
  3940. 2016-01-05 22:41:45     n-tech  and they'd just continue to threaten me
  3941. 2016-01-05 22:41:48     n-tech  it's like, ok
  3942. 2016-01-05 22:44:13     n-tech  I can't get over how big /hebe/ is
  3943. 2016-01-05 22:47:40     copypaste       lol
  3944. 2016-01-05 22:48:36     copypaste       Like I said I don't consider Benji intelligent
  3945. 2016-01-05 22:49:02     n-tech  well it's a "friend"
  3946. 2016-01-05 22:49:15     n-tech  i'm sure it's just a prank. if it's not, the db is designed to store no sensitive information
  3947. 2016-01-05 22:49:19     n-tech  the only loss is email <> user relations
  3948. 2016-01-05 22:49:33     n-tech  but if you signed up your /childrape/ board on john.smith@executivebusiness.biz
  3949. 2016-01-05 22:49:38     n-tech  it's your fucking fault
  3950. 2016-01-05 22:49:39     copypaste       Making vague threats could even be part of his marketing strategy for his IB
  3951. 2016-01-05 22:50:04     copypaste       yeah, exactly
  3952. 2016-01-05 23:26:00     n-tech  $ psql infinity;
  3953. 2016-01-05 23:26:00     n-tech  psql: FATAL:  sorry, too many clients already
  3954. 2016-01-05 23:26:57     copypaste       perhaps bouncer uses the max
  3955. 2016-01-05 23:27:07     copypaste       try connect thru bouncer
  3956. 2016-01-05 23:27:36     copypaste       psql command can do it with specified host i beloeve
  3957. 2016-01-05 23:30:15     n-tech  Dunno. I'm stumped now.
  3958. 2016-01-05 23:30:17     n-tech  I guess I fucked up.
  3959. 2016-01-05 23:30:22     n-tech  I can't even begin caching shit more
  3960. 2016-01-05 23:30:25     n-tech  because the cache crashes
  3961. 2016-01-05 23:30:30     n-tech  and why does the cache crash? I have no idea.
  3962. 2016-01-05 23:30:37     copypaste       im about toclock out, but before I do would you like the root password to troi12? That will allow you to redirect whichever boards you please without my micromanagement
  3963. 2016-01-05 23:30:40     n-tech  Why do certain queries suddenly take 750ms to execute when they usuaully take 2?
  3964. 2016-01-05 23:30:53     n-tech  not nessecary, i'm not redirecting any boards
  3965. 2016-01-05 23:30:59     n-tech  it's not stable, it doesn't work
  3966. 2016-01-05 23:31:26     n-tech  The front page takes 10 seconds to load up and I have no idea why.
  3967. 2016-01-05 23:31:31     n-tech  There's available resources.
  3968. 2016-01-05 23:31:44     n-tech  like what the fuck could possibly be fucking up so bad
  3969. 2016-01-05 23:31:49     n-tech  there's a finite number of options
  3970. 2016-01-05 23:32:09     copypaste       If I knew I'd tell ya
  3971. 2016-01-05 23:36:02     copypaste       I'll try not to sleep for so long tonight. Another eureka Could be just around the corner, like when caching was unintentionally totally disabled for a vital query. I still have hope in this and faith in you. Good night Josh-sama
  3972. 2016-01-05 23:36:26     n-tech  night
  3973. 2016-01-06 09:32:38     n-tech  https://ghostbin.com/paste/frnjg
  3974. 2016-01-06 09:32:58     n-tech  Page load times down significantly, redis has stopped crashing
  3975. 2016-01-06 09:33:07     n-tech  req/sec up from about 20 to 60 as more people are using the software
  3976. 2016-01-06 09:33:24     n-tech  last pid: 34188;  load averages: 19.04, 18.30, 17.10                                                 up 48+14:46:50  01:31:51
  3977. 2016-01-06 09:33:24     n-tech  99 processes:  14 running, 85 sleeping
  3978. 2016-01-06 09:33:25     n-tech  CPU: 92.8% user,  0.0% nice,  6.6% system,  0.5% interrupt,  0.0% idle
  3979. 2016-01-06 09:33:31     n-tech  the problem is that this doesn't meet your 100 rule.
  3980. 2016-01-06 09:36:38     n-tech  Postgres, however, only uses about 10%~20% CPU on average at this load
  3981. 2016-01-06 10:28:16     copypaste       Cool, what did you change?
  3982. 2016-01-06 10:28:35     n-tech  I had given PHP-FPM about 1000% of the resources available to the server
  3983. 2016-01-06 10:28:48     n-tech  that's why Redis was crashing
  3984. 2016-01-06 10:28:52     n-tech  it kept stealing Redis's memory
  3985. 2016-01-06 10:37:31     copypaste       we can easily raise the tps by redirecting a few boards and watching ngxtop
  3986. 2016-01-06 10:37:51     copypaste       to 100
  3987. 2016-01-06 10:37:58     n-tech  I don't think it can safely handle more than 60 RPS.
  3988. 2016-01-06 10:38:04     n-tech  It starts having noticeable slowdowns at that point.
  3989. 2016-01-06 10:38:20     n-tech  So I'm not sure what we're going to do about it.
  3990. 2016-01-06 10:38:56     n-tech  it gets close to 90% CPU at that point and if anyone hits ffmpeg with a few files it really begins to slow down
  3991. 2016-01-06 10:39:20     copypaste       ok, but 60 by 8 falls short of 800
  3992. 2016-01-06 10:39:23     copypaste       w8
  3993. 2016-01-06 10:39:33     n-tech  is it 100 rps at any given time?
  3994. 2016-01-06 10:39:37     copypaste       why does ffmpeg take so long
  3995. 2016-01-06 10:39:50     n-tech  no idea
  3996. 2016-01-06 10:40:04     n-tech  It's less of a problem when I gave it a single thread
  3997. 2016-01-06 10:40:13     n-tech  I'd like to set niceness to 5 or so too
  3998. 2016-01-06 10:40:27     n-tech  but ffmpeg spawns processes at the same as php-fpm
  3999. 2016-01-06 10:40:31     copypaste       thats never been a problem for me
  4000. 2016-01-06 10:40:33     copypaste       hmm
  4001. 2016-01-06 10:40:56     copypaste       can i see ffmpeg command being run
  4002. 2016-01-06 10:41:05     copypaste       which causes hi cpu
  4003. 2016-01-06 10:41:22     n-tech  https://ghostbin.com/paste/nodzr
  4004. 2016-01-06 10:41:28     n-tech  it would hit about 200% or more before
  4005. 2016-01-06 10:41:30     n-tech  but again, I singlethreaded it
  4006. 2016-01-06 10:41:35     n-tech  now it's only about 50% per instance
  4007. 2016-01-06 10:42:00     n-tech  also what is that python service
  4008. 2016-01-06 10:42:16     n-tech  oh i wonder if that's ngxtop
  4009. 2016-01-06 10:42:31     n-tech  yes it is
  4010. 2016-01-06 10:43:21     copypaste       this just thumbnails rite
  4011. 2016-01-06 10:43:28     copypaste       no re encode
  4012. 2016-01-06 10:43:30     n-tech  yes
  4013. 2016-01-06 10:43:54     copypaste       can i see command
  4014. 2016-01-06 10:44:13     n-tech                                          $time =  exec(env('LIB_FFMPEG', "ffmpeg") . " -i {$video} 2>&1 | grep 'Duration' | cut -d ' ' -f 4 | sed s/,//", $output, $returnvalue);
  4015. 2016-01-06 10:44:16     n-tech                                          $cmd = env('LIB_FFMPEG', "ffmpeg") . " " .
  4016. 2016-01-06 10:44:16     n-tech                                                          "-i {$video} " . // Input video.
  4017. 2016-01-06 10:44:16     n-tech                                                          //"-filter:v yadif " . // Deinterlace.
  4018. 2016-01-06 10:44:16     n-tech                                                          "-deinterlace " .
  4019. 2016-01-06 10:44:16     n-tech                                                          "-an " . // No audio.
  4020. 2016-01-06 10:44:17     n-tech                                                          "-ss {$middleTimestamp} " . // Timestamp for our thumbnail.
  4021. 2016-01-06 10:44:19     n-tech                                                          "-f mjpeg " . // Output format.
  4022. 2016-01-06 10:44:21     n-tech                                                          "-vcodec png " .
  4023. 2016-01-06 10:44:23     n-tech                                                          "-t 1 " . // Duration in seconds.
  4024. 2016-01-06 10:44:25     n-tech                                                          "-r 1 " . // FPS, 1 for 1 frame.
  4025. 2016-01-06 10:44:27     n-tech                                                          "-y " . // Overwrite file if it already exists.
  4026. 2016-01-06 10:44:29     n-tech                                                          "-threads 1 " .
  4027. 2016-01-06 10:44:33     n-tech                                                          "{$image} 2>&1";
  4028. 2016-01-06 10:45:00     copypaste       ffmpeg thumbnailer should quit in ms, ill study the docs for each flag
  4029. 2016-01-06 10:45:12     copypaste       there are a few i dont use
  4030. 2016-01-06 10:45:34     copypaste       like deinterlace
  4031. 2016-01-06 10:51:45     n-tech  https://beta.8ch.net/pinoy/thread/13612#13612
  4032. 2016-01-06 10:52:16     n-tech  lol this mp4
  4033. 2016-01-06 10:52:21     n-tech  it's the pinoy anthem by a vocaloid
  4034. 2016-01-06 11:41:09     n-tech  oh btw lol
  4035. 2016-01-06 11:41:17     n-tech  that person who's hosting THE ENDCHAN
  4036. 2016-01-06 11:41:19     n-tech  it's Drybones
  4037. 2016-01-06 11:41:21     n-tech  Sapphire Group
  4038. 2016-01-06 11:41:22     n-tech  lmfao
  4039. 2016-01-06 11:41:28     n-tech  Stephen Lynx and Drybones
  4040. 2016-01-06 11:41:30     n-tech  the fucking dream team
  4041. 2016-01-06 11:41:39     copypaste       oh its sure to fail
  4042. 2016-01-06 11:42:55     copypaste       drybones couldnt even afford $80 monthly to keep an archive db up, and hosts sites on OVH
  4043. 2016-01-06 11:43:16     n-tech  How does he afford to host Gitgud?
  4044. 2016-01-06 11:43:24     copypaste       i know of 3 chans closed by ovh
  4045. 2016-01-06 11:43:48     copypaste       he takes donations but we know how that goes for a chan
  4046. 2016-01-06 11:43:55     copypaste       hilarious
  4047. 2016-01-06 11:45:02     copypaste       he also drops projects semingly weekly
  4048. 2016-01-06 11:45:38     copypaste       8archive, gg.me, ggwiki, startbutton.net and more are his casualties
  4049. 2016-01-06 11:45:55     copypaste       thanks for that tidbit, we are fine
  4050. 2016-01-06 11:48:14     n-tech  doesn't he own that big gamergate wiki too
  4051. 2016-01-06 11:48:30     copypaste       he closed it
  4052. 2016-01-06 11:48:36     n-tech  what? why
  4053. 2016-01-06 11:48:41     copypaste       thus, casualty
  4054. 2016-01-06 11:48:52     copypaste       gg hurt his feefees on twitter
  4055. 2016-01-06 11:48:52     n-tech  how boring
  4056. 2016-01-06 11:48:55     n-tech  :(
  4057. 2016-01-06 13:35:14     n-tech  soooo
  4058. 2016-01-06 13:35:18     n-tech  do we have a plan
  4059. 2016-01-06 13:35:19     n-tech  what now
  4060. 2016-01-06 13:37:19     copypaste       well
  4061. 2016-01-06 13:37:50     copypaste       i'm a bit stumped by your troubles with ffmpeg, i monitored 8chan's server and found that it uses less than 1% of its resources on ffmpeg
  4062. 2016-01-06 13:38:16     copypaste       however, it seems like my initial supposition that deinterlace takes resources was correct, i was generating test files and reports to show you just how much and if it's a concern
  4063. 2016-01-06 13:38:43     copypaste       and using `ffmpeg -i` to get the statistics instead of the more standard `ffprobe` is also faster
  4064. 2016-01-06 13:38:52     copypaste       erm, otherway around; ffprobe is faster
  4065. 2016-01-06 13:38:54     copypaste       than ffmpeg -i
  4066. 2016-01-06 13:39:38     n-tech  Okay, I remember having a lot of problems with the thumbnailer though. I had to change all the settings a bunch of times and the order is excruiciatingly critical
  4067. 2016-01-06 13:39:51     copypaste       ffmpeg should exit almost immediately, and does with command `$ffmpeg -y -strict -2 -ss 0 -i $filename -v quiet -an -vframes 1 -f mjpeg -vf scale=$width:$height $thumbnailfc 2>&1`
  4068. 2016-01-06 13:40:14     copypaste       it could even be that using JPEG is faster, and not telling it to interpret at 1FPS
  4069. 2016-01-06 13:40:25     copypaste       perhaps an interpretation of 1FPS actually forces a re-encode, or at least a decode
  4070. 2016-01-06 13:40:53     copypaste       when a decode is not what's wanted at a low level, it's a "skip to frame X; dump frame X to file; encode <pixel format> to JPEG"
  4071. 2016-01-06 13:41:13     copypaste       but if you interpret it as frames per second, you might have to read the entire file up to the centre
  4072. 2016-01-06 13:41:22     copypaste       that's why iw as generating long test files (of say 8 minutes) to see
  4073. 2016-01-06 13:42:24     copypaste       so i think that dropping -deinterlace, -vcodec png, -t 1, -r 1 and so on will help matters, and basically using the command as 8chan does
  4074. 2016-01-06 13:42:39     copypaste       i've never heard anyone complain that 8chan botched their video thumbnail
  4075. 2016-01-06 13:42:59     copypaste       so even if the 8chan method is less "correct" for some spectrum of technical correctness, it's much faster
  4076. 2016-01-06 13:43:09     n-tech  Alright. Feel free to make commits and play around with it, it is something that required a lot of tinkering
  4077. 2016-01-06 13:43:18     copypaste       finding the time of the file is done with a simple ffprobe in JSON format, then interpreting the JSON and finding the time
  4078. 2016-01-06 13:43:21     copypaste       OK
  4079. 2016-01-06 13:43:29     n-tech  I wish I knew how to make it faster, it's still slow-ish. I'm not sure what else there is that I can accomplish
  4080. 2016-01-06 13:43:42     copypaste       this is slowish (ffmpeg)?
  4081. 2016-01-06 13:43:46     copypaste       or some other part?
  4082. 2016-01-06 13:44:33     n-tech  nah the software as a whole is just not performing as well as it could be and I can't whittle down the bottlenecks anymore
  4083. 2016-01-06 13:44:46     n-tech  previously it was memcached crashing, but that's done
  4084. 2016-01-06 13:44:51     n-tech  now it's pretty fast compared to before
  4085. 2016-01-06 13:44:57     n-tech  but it's not under a second in some instances
  4086. 2016-01-06 13:45:22     copypaste       i'm not sure what you mean by "whittle down"
  4087. 2016-01-06 13:45:38     n-tech  find and elliminate
  4088. 2016-01-06 13:45:41     n-tech  for instance, when anonymous
  4089. 2016-01-06 13:45:46     n-tech  the raw HTML for individual posts cache
  4090. 2016-01-06 13:46:17     n-tech  because the greatest usage of CPU is actually the Laravel Model->getAttributeValue
  4091. 2016-01-06 13:46:29     n-tech  When you call ->something on an object it checks for typecasting
  4092. 2016-01-06 13:46:33     n-tech  in the post there are dozens of these calls
  4093. 2016-01-06 13:46:36     n-tech  in a thread there are thousands
  4094. 2016-01-06 13:46:40     n-tech  those microseconds add up
  4095. 2016-01-06 13:47:02     n-tech  I've actually done serious work in that department already and trimmed hundreds of ms off templating time by being jewish about model work
  4096. 2016-01-06 13:47:14     n-tech  so that getAttributeValue calls are as infrequent as possible
  4097. 2016-01-06 13:47:20     n-tech  and now the entire rendered post is cached as a whole
  4098. 2016-01-06 13:47:26     n-tech  which works with the JSON output too btw
  4099. 2016-01-06 13:47:31     n-tech  these things all tie together, the cache is very clever
  4100. 2016-01-06 13:47:55     n-tech  but the bottlenecks get more complicated to resolve every time something is fixed
  4101. 2016-01-06 13:47:58     copypaste       you seem to really hate varnish, but i again forward it; i've seen it used by all kinds of sites (and i only know when it fails since i get the telltale "Guru Meditation" so it's probably used by many more than i know). the only problem would be moving the post password generation from laravel to javascript and refusing posts without a post password for users without JS so as to remind them to
  4102. 2016-01-06 13:47:58     copypaste       enter one...
  4103. 2016-01-06 13:48:29     copypaste       i added varnish to 8chan first with varnish 3.0, around 6 months ago, and it lowered read i/o by like half
  4104. 2016-01-06 13:48:39     n-tech  I don't like Varnish because it limits what I can do
  4105. 2016-01-06 13:48:46     copypaste       when varnish is restarted, normally it bounces 25% of requests for 10 seconds until the cache is refreshed
  4106. 2016-01-06 13:48:48     n-tech  The whole point of this is to make things flexible and Varnish is about making things static
  4107. 2016-01-06 13:49:51     copypaste       well, yeah; that's a definite concern but can be somewhat alleviated with events that purge/ban the cache
  4108. 2016-01-06 13:50:13     n-tech  And we can't do this with just PHP and Redis why?
  4109. 2016-01-06 13:50:16     copypaste       for example on 8chan, board settings update, post, post delete, edit, and so on, all call purge()
  4110. 2016-01-06 13:50:27     copypaste       well i don't know why, you just seem to be struggling with it
  4111. 2016-01-06 13:50:36     copypaste       so i offer what i know works because it's working already
  4112. 2016-01-06 13:51:08     copypaste       it could be that the php interpreter itself is slower than the varnish model, but i don't know the actual reason it takes multiple seconds as you said
  4113. 2016-01-06 13:51:19     n-tech  I'm not struggling, I'm reluctant
  4114. 2016-01-06 13:51:38     n-tech  It feels like a bandaid, but adding more depedencies is just more points of failure
  4115. 2016-01-06 13:51:47     n-tech  If we're going to start caching output we can do it with the software
  4116. 2016-01-06 13:52:01     n-tech  You're telling me it involves application level event hooks anyways
  4117. 2016-01-06 13:52:13     n-tech  so I'm not saving myself any trouble, it's not like Redis where I just put a config value different
  4118. 2016-01-06 13:52:13     copypaste       it does, for purges
  4119. 2016-01-06 13:52:28     copypaste       yeah, it would still be non-trivial to add
  4120. 2016-01-06 13:52:46     copypaste       when i added it to 8chan i missed quite a few places, but i just made the varnish cache have a somewhat low ttl
  4121. 2016-01-06 13:52:53     copypaste       so if i forgot something it would "eventually" take effect
  4122. 2016-01-06 13:53:08     copypaste       despite the fact that varnish supports a 0 ttl, as in won't die unless purged
  4123. 2016-01-06 13:53:13     copypaste       (or banned, wihch are different)
  4124. 2016-01-06 13:53:51     n-tech  There's no easy way for me to determine with the production server what are the biggest CPU vacuums
  4125. 2016-01-06 13:54:19     copypaste       why not? doesn't laravel have good debugging? you could turn it on only for a certain ip [yours], right?
  4126. 2016-01-06 13:54:31     copypaste       the profiler seemed quite advanced to me
  4127. 2016-01-06 13:54:37     n-tech  I already have
  4128. 2016-01-06 13:54:40     n-tech  but my pages load fine
  4129. 2016-01-06 13:54:43     n-tech  It's not just what pages are slow
  4130. 2016-01-06 13:54:48     n-tech  It's what pages are slow enough and frequently called
  4131. 2016-01-06 13:55:14     n-tech  like sometimes they load bleedingly fast
  4132. 2016-01-06 13:55:17     copypaste       ngxtop can tell you which ones are frequently called (experiment with its flags if the problems aren't in the top 10 or tpo 20, you can drill down to even top 2k)
  4133. 2016-01-06 13:55:25     copypaste       i see, so it's variable
  4134. 2016-01-06 13:55:33     n-tech  yeah see
  4135. 2016-01-06 13:55:37     n-tech  I saw a weird ass post and opened it
  4136. 2016-01-06 13:55:42     n-tech  it's like a cucking thread on cuteboys
  4137. 2016-01-06 13:55:43     n-tech  https://beta.8ch.net/cuteboys/thread/94470#235879
  4138. 2016-01-06 13:55:45     n-tech  has over 100 posts
  4139. 2016-01-06 13:55:47     n-tech  I open it
  4140. 2016-01-06 13:56:03     n-tech  and the load time is 5s
  4141. 2016-01-06 13:56:07     n-tech  but updates are 72ms
  4142. 2016-01-06 13:56:13     copypaste       right, a refresh is 72ms
  4143. 2016-01-06 13:56:23     n-tech  but that's with my admin view
  4144. 2016-01-06 13:56:26     n-tech  which bypasses post cache
  4145. 2016-01-06 13:56:35     copypaste       hm
  4146. 2016-01-06 13:56:40     n-tech  I open the same thread as anon
  4147. 2016-01-06 13:56:41     copypaste       that page loaded quite quickly for me
  4148. 2016-01-06 13:56:42     n-tech  640ms
  4149. 2016-01-06 13:56:46     n-tech  yea, see
  4150. 2016-01-06 13:56:49     n-tech  it helps tremendously
  4151. 2016-01-06 13:57:02     copypaste       so, uhm
  4152. 2016-01-06 13:57:10     copypaste       why not just make it so that the post cache is used in the admin view temporarily?
  4153. 2016-01-06 13:57:25     copypaste       just for testing purpose?
  4154. 2016-01-06 13:57:34     n-tech  I can view debug information even as anon
  4155. 2016-01-06 13:57:46     n-tech  I'm just saying it's very hard for me to figure out what things are both frequently opened and slow
  4156. 2016-01-06 13:57:55     n-tech  and interesting caveat of the ngxtop
  4157. 2016-01-06 13:57:59     n-tech  is that it is itself slow
  4158. 2016-01-06 13:58:03     n-tech  I've seen it get 40% CPU
  4159. 2016-01-06 13:58:10     copypaste       heh
  4160. 2016-01-06 13:58:20     copypaste       well, it's a simple script all things considered
  4161. 2016-01-06 13:58:25     copypaste       i can look for better ones, if they exist
  4162. 2016-01-06 13:58:49     copypaste       it is python after all, not a language known for being fast
  4163. 2016-01-06 13:59:23     n-tech  why is /hebe/ our largest board
  4164. 2016-01-06 13:59:33     n-tech  it has a low # of posts but it's like
  4165. 2016-01-06 13:59:36     copypaste       i think you know why
  4166. 2016-01-06 13:59:38     n-tech  every time I check ngxtop
  4167. 2016-01-06 13:59:44     n-tech  the top 15 of the top 20 items
  4168. 2016-01-06 13:59:50     n-tech  are all .json files for autoupdaters for hebe threads
  4169. 2016-01-06 13:59:56     n-tech  like they probably each have a tab open
  4170. 2016-01-06 13:59:57     copypaste       this surprised me at first too, but a combination of traffic referrals and so on
  4171. 2016-01-06 13:59:58     n-tech  for all the active threads
  4172. 2016-01-06 14:00:20     copypaste       just people going there for a wank and whatnot, i read somewhere that 10% of males are aroused by that sort of thing
  4173. 2016-01-06 14:00:44     copypaste       and it's somewhat "hard" to find, 8ch is one of the only places that still allows it, and will probably not for long
  4174. 2016-01-06 14:01:00     copypaste       most datacenters have hardened their requirements over the years, it's only a matter of time for the other shoe to fall
  4175. 2016-01-06 14:01:14     copypaste       i don't know of another reasonably priced DC which would allow it
  4176. 2016-01-06 14:01:58     n-tech  If I was admin my rule would be worded like
  4177. 2016-01-06 14:02:00     copypaste       that's why i laugh at things like endchan
  4178. 2016-01-06 14:02:06     copypaste       finalchan, and so on
  4179. 2016-01-06 14:02:09     n-tech  no child glorification threads outside of specifically designated pedo boards
  4180. 2016-01-06 14:02:13     n-tech  and pedo boards would be no images
  4181. 2016-01-06 14:02:19     n-tech  it'd cause them to leave but nobody cares
  4182. 2016-01-06 14:02:32     copypaste       when the other shoe does fall there will be an "exodus", but to where?
  4183. 2016-01-06 14:02:36     n-tech  tor
  4184. 2016-01-06 14:02:47     copypaste       most of those peopel are not smart enough for tor
  4185. 2016-01-06 14:02:50     copypaste       they email me
  4186. 2016-01-06 14:02:51     n-tech  lol
  4187. 2016-01-06 14:02:55     copypaste       they are just mentally ill older men
  4188. 2016-01-06 14:02:57     copypaste       most of them
  4189. 2016-01-06 14:03:00     copypaste       not that good with computers
  4190. 2016-01-06 14:03:01     n-tech  i'm always surprised how dumb pedophiles are
  4191. 2016-01-06 14:03:04     n-tech  like they do this shit at work
  4192. 2016-01-06 14:03:06     copypaste       they really are stupid
  4193. 2016-01-06 14:03:08     copypaste       yes
  4194. 2016-01-06 14:03:08     n-tech  on company harddrives that are monitored
  4195. 2016-01-06 14:03:26     n-tech  like the hidden wiki
  4196. 2016-01-06 14:03:27     n-tech  is NOTHING
  4197. 2016-01-06 14:03:30     n-tech  NOTHING
  4198. 2016-01-06 14:03:30     copypaste       as far as the majority of them are concerned, if it's not on the open clearnet it doesn't exist
  4199. 2016-01-06 14:03:32     n-tech  but warnings saying
  4200. 2016-01-06 14:03:34     copypaste       and that's the truth
  4201. 2016-01-06 14:03:38     n-tech  don't be retarded this is how you be a creep online
  4202. 2016-01-06 14:04:11     copypaste       and then you mix in the conspiracy theories about tor, to an already stupid population
  4203. 2016-01-06 14:04:18     copypaste       and they think that somehow "hebe" is safer than that
  4204. 2016-01-06 14:04:24     copypaste       basically it's just stupidity all the way down
  4205. 2016-01-06 14:04:44     n-tech  https://ghostbin.com/paste/6765y
  4206. 2016-01-06 14:05:02     copypaste       _debugbar/open ?
  4207. 2016-01-06 14:05:08     n-tech  that's my debugging tool
  4208. 2016-01-06 14:05:14     copypaste       this is interesting
  4209. 2016-01-06 14:05:18     copypaste       oh! here's what i wanted to ask you
  4210. 2016-01-06 14:05:22     copypaste       i thought of it last night before bed
  4211. 2016-01-06 14:05:33     copypaste       how is the 404 logic? you may have noticed that 8chan displays a static nginx 404
  4212. 2016-01-06 14:05:39     copypaste       this isn't because i "forgot", or "misconfigured" it
  4213. 2016-01-06 14:05:47     copypaste       this is because 20% of requests are 404's, and the previous method was too slow.
  4214. 2016-01-06 14:06:03     n-tech  it aborts with the correct HTTP Header and a full template render, so do 500 errors
  4215. 2016-01-06 14:06:07     copypaste       (it did `ls` on `static/404/`, then did mt_rand to get a random 404)
  4216. 2016-01-06 14:06:08     n-tech  I'm curious now if the problem is the 500 errors
  4217. 2016-01-06 14:06:17     n-tech  there's a little magic in the 500 errors for missing thumbnails and files
  4218. 2016-01-06 14:06:19     n-tech  where it tries to fix itself
  4219. 2016-01-06 14:06:24     copypaste       ah
  4220. 2016-01-06 14:06:30     copypaste       i would if i were you check to see 404 generation time
  4221. 2016-01-06 14:06:35     copypaste       and 500, and so on
  4222. 2016-01-06 14:07:51     n-tech  2ms db because i'm signed in, 80ms page gen time
  4223. 2016-01-06 14:08:05     copypaste       so probably not the problem
  4224. 2016-01-06 14:08:12     copypaste       is that 404 or 500?
  4225. 2016-01-06 14:08:21     n-tech  404, im curious now about the 500s
  4226. 2016-01-06 14:08:30     copypaste       oh, and infinity next is installed outside of /srv/http right?
  4227. 2016-01-06 14:08:35     n-tech  yes
  4228. 2016-01-06 14:08:38     copypaste       good
  4229. 2016-01-06 14:08:44     n-tech  only /storage/ points to /srv/8ch.net/storage/
  4230. 2016-01-06 14:08:52     n-tech  wait
  4231. 2016-01-06 14:09:40     n-tech  haha okay, only /storage/app/ which contains the thumbs and files
  4232. 2016-01-06 14:09:47     n-tech  because i was thinking maybe the compiled views were there too
  4233. 2016-01-06 14:09:48     n-tech  they aren't
  4234. 2016-01-06 14:09:51     copypaste       ok that's how it should be
  4235. 2016-01-06 14:09:56     copypaste       compiled views would be a disaster
  4236. 2016-01-06 14:10:03     copypaste       that's what sunk the vichan front end controller
  4237. 2016-01-06 14:16:56     copypaste       hmm
  4238. 2016-01-06 14:17:12     copypaste       i'm just thinking, what if it's images that are slow? perhaps like 8chan we should move the image processing to a media.
  4239. 2016-01-06 14:17:24     copypaste       on 8chan if you'll notice, the large majority of boards use a media.
  4240. 2016-01-06 14:17:58     copypaste       remembering also that if one request is slow, it takes up a slot on the server and slows everything down
  4241. 2016-01-06 14:19:06     copypaste       if you'd like i can set up a mediab. on troi06
  4242. 2016-01-06 14:19:10     n-tech  that might be a good idea
  4243. 2016-01-06 14:19:17     copypaste       and we can there install an infinity next
  4244. 2016-01-06 14:19:22     copypaste       whose purpose will be just for media
  4245. 2016-01-06 14:19:33     n-tech  I'm tuckered but if you feel like playing with environments today
  4246. 2016-01-06 14:19:36     copypaste       (it can be a full infinity next, we can just drop all non-media queries)
  4247. 2016-01-06 14:19:39     copypaste       i do
  4248. 2016-01-06 14:19:45     copypaste       i think it may help
  4249. 2016-01-06 14:19:52     copypaste       is there a simple way to change the URL used for thumb/image?
  4250. 2016-01-06 14:19:55     n-tech  Go ahead and move the responsibility for the beta domain to the loadbalancer
  4251. 2016-01-06 14:20:03     n-tech  you don't have to do that
  4252. 2016-01-06 14:20:21     n-tech  i mean there is, I can do it right now if you want
  4253. 2016-01-06 14:20:25     copypaste       what should i do instead?
  4254. 2016-01-06 14:20:31     n-tech  but you can also just catch the file route
  4255. 2016-01-06 14:20:33     n-tech  they're all the same
  4256. 2016-01-06 14:20:47     copypaste       ah, i see, to be honest i'd rather have a media domain
  4257. 2016-01-06 14:21:10     copypaste       it provides for better separation of concerns and doesn't saddle the load balancer with all those requests either
  4258. 2016-01-06 14:21:25     n-tech  it also creates a cookieless domain
  4259. 2016-01-06 14:21:28     copypaste       indeed
  4260. 2016-01-06 14:21:31     copypaste       good for varnish
  4261. 2016-01-06 14:21:35     copypaste       (just saying :p)
  4262. 2016-01-06 14:21:51     n-tech  give me a moment
  4263. 2016-01-06 14:22:00     n-tech  I'm so fucking anal retentive about URLs
  4264. 2016-01-06 14:22:07     n-tech  every model has a ->toURL() or similarly named method
  4265. 2016-01-06 14:22:14     n-tech  I think all assets are just
  4266. 2016-01-06 14:22:16     n-tech  $asset->toURL()
  4267. 2016-01-06 14:22:42     copypaste       nice
  4268. 2016-01-06 14:23:13     copypaste       yeah, by being cookieless also less bytes being sent back and forth, saves b/w
  4269. 2016-01-06 14:23:21     copypaste       good for everyone
  4270. 2016-01-06 14:23:36     n-tech  lol
  4271. 2016-01-06 14:23:38     n-tech  in laravel
  4272. 2016-01-06 14:23:45     n-tech  there's a submodule or something called Travis
  4273. 2016-01-06 14:23:48     n-tech  every fucking time I see it
  4274. 2016-01-06 14:23:50     copypaste       should i call it `m.8ch.net` or `media.8ch.net`? or even `static.8ch.net`?
  4275. 2016-01-06 14:23:52     n-tech  I think of the fat kid with two knives
  4276. 2016-01-06 14:23:53     copypaste       travis CI?
  4277. 2016-01-06 14:23:56     n-tech  probably
  4278. 2016-01-06 14:23:58     copypaste       it's a test suite right?
  4279. 2016-01-06 14:24:05     n-tech  ye I think so
  4280. 2016-01-06 14:24:18     n-tech  https://beta.8ch.net/travis
  4281. 2016-01-06 14:24:20     n-tech  this guy
  4282. 2016-01-06 14:24:31     copypaste       lol
  4283. 2016-01-06 14:24:44     n-tech  if you ever go to /b/ there is  PERPETUAL travis thread
  4284. 2016-01-06 14:24:52     n-tech  and the guy who photoshops him constantly raids the pony and pedo threads
  4285. 2016-01-06 14:24:53     n-tech  with travis
  4286. 2016-01-06 14:24:58     n-tech  he's my favorite, over the brownpill guy
  4287. 2016-01-06 14:25:06     copypaste       somehow i missed this new ebin meme
  4288. 2016-01-06 14:25:16     n-tech  it's not even new he's been doing it forever
  4289. 2016-01-06 14:25:20     n-tech  he is completely dedicated to the art
  4290. 2016-01-06 14:25:21     copypaste       it's hard to beat the brown pill in terms of raw disgust
  4291. 2016-01-06 14:25:47     n-tech  I actually
  4292. 2016-01-06 14:25:55     n-tech  never watched it for ages
  4293. 2016-01-06 14:25:59     n-tech  until during the early beta testing
  4294. 2016-01-06 14:26:05     n-tech  someone posted the video and I hadn't thumbnailed from the middle yet
  4295. 2016-01-06 14:26:11     n-tech  so I saw the first frame of the video for the first time
  4296. 2016-01-06 14:26:14     n-tech  and opened it out of curiosity
  4297. 2016-01-06 14:26:15     n-tech  lol
  4298. 2016-01-06 14:26:20     copypaste       i think it's really awesome how someone helped you solve that spam problem, even a third party
  4299. 2016-01-06 14:26:25     copypaste       it means your code is readable
  4300. 2016-01-06 14:26:32     copypaste       no one ever helps with anything important in 8chan
  4301. 2016-01-06 14:26:47     n-tech  that was a seperate flaw but I'm glad it got noticed
  4302. 2016-01-06 14:26:58     n-tech  I had to actually be a bit cheeky with that fix
  4303. 2016-01-06 14:27:05     n-tech  in the submitTo() function for the Post model
  4304. 2016-01-06 14:27:11     n-tech  I now put a key in the cache like
  4305. 2016-01-06 14:27:21     n-tech  post_submitting_by_IP2LONG
  4306. 2016-01-06 14:27:26     n-tech  and unset it at the end of the function
  4307. 2016-01-06 14:27:29     n-tech  it has a life of 1 minute
  4308. 2016-01-06 14:27:34     n-tech  if that key is set when it gets a second request
  4309. 2016-01-06 14:27:37     n-tech  it bails with 429
  4310. 2016-01-06 14:27:45     n-tech  I could not find any alternate solution to the shotgun spam
  4311. 2016-01-06 14:27:51     n-tech  it was the first real case of a race condition I've seen
  4312. 2016-01-06 14:28:01     n-tech  the regular flood detection was completely incapable of dealing with it
  4313. 2016-01-06 14:28:34     n-tech  (the lifespan is just to make sure if an error occurs it eventually gets unset, it's usuaully unset in miliseconds).
  4314. 2016-01-06 14:30:02     copypaste       cool
  4315. 2016-01-06 14:30:19     n-tech  but ye i get lots of little contributions now
  4316. 2016-01-06 14:30:19     copypaste       so, i will give you a pw for troi06, to copy over the infinity-next install of troi05
  4317. 2016-01-06 14:30:21     n-tech  mostly css
  4318. 2016-01-06 14:30:23     copypaste       OK?
  4319. 2016-01-06 14:30:28     n-tech  alright
  4320. 2016-01-06 14:30:38     copypaste       troi06 is the RAID machine by the way
  4321. 2016-01-06 14:30:44     copypaste       i put media. on it for a reason :)
  4322. 2016-01-06 14:30:45     n-tech  the source of /srv/?
  4323. 2016-01-06 14:30:47     copypaste       yes
  4324. 2016-01-06 14:30:52     copypaste       it's [ip removed]
  4325. 2016-01-06 14:30:55     copypaste       the head NFS server
  4326. 2016-01-06 14:31:00     n-tech  Okay
  4327. 2016-01-06 14:31:31     n-tech  Can you make redis/php/nginx?
  4328. 2016-01-06 14:31:36     n-tech  I'll port over the config and test it
  4329. 2016-01-06 14:31:58     copypaste       why it needs redis ?
  4330. 2016-01-06 14:32:18     n-tech  well
  4331. 2016-01-06 14:32:21     n-tech  the application in general does
  4332. 2016-01-06 14:32:24     n-tech  we can also make it a redis node
  4333. 2016-01-06 14:32:28     n-tech  does that memory get used for anything?
  4334. 2016-01-06 14:32:35     copypaste       nfsd uses a lot of memory
  4335. 2016-01-06 14:32:48     copypaste       it's not a problem really, but i don't think redis will do anything but take up resources just for media
  4336. 2016-01-06 14:32:51     n-tech  Okay, don't do that then. We'll make it link to our redis
  4337. 2016-01-06 14:32:56     copypaste       since serving media is just, generate headers and sendfile)(
  4338. 2016-01-06 14:32:57     copypaste       ()*
  4339. 2016-01-06 14:33:03     copypaste       we could even use a simple cache method like `file`
  4340. 2016-01-06 14:33:11     copypaste       because the routes with caching won't do anything, i think ?
  4341. 2016-01-06 14:33:37     n-tech  It will definitely try to cache permissions
  4342. 2016-01-06 14:33:44     copypaste       oh, i see
  4343. 2016-01-06 14:33:50     copypaste       permissions are used for serving media?
  4344. 2016-01-06 14:33:59     copypaste       so how is it then a cookieless domain?
  4345. 2016-01-06 14:34:21     n-tech  yeah that's a good point
  4346. 2016-01-06 14:34:34     n-tech  It's just an innate thing the application does, it's a part of the routing process
  4347. 2016-01-06 14:34:37     n-tech  but now I'm wondering
  4348. 2016-01-06 14:34:45     n-tech  if I can exclude file routes from all middleware
  4349. 2016-01-06 14:34:51     n-tech  that'd remove authentication
  4350. 2016-01-06 14:34:56     copypaste       that would be logical and would likely speed things up
  4351. 2016-01-06 14:34:59     copypaste       no reason to have secret files
  4352. 2016-01-06 14:35:09     n-tech  not yet at least, i'll look into that next
  4353. 2016-01-06 14:35:15     copypaste       OK
  4354. 2016-01-06 14:35:30     copypaste       so, this server is one of the first, and so it's a bit...
  4355. 2016-01-06 14:35:32     copypaste       clunky
  4356. 2016-01-06 14:35:36     copypaste       it runs ubuntu 12.04
  4357. 2016-01-06 14:35:56     copypaste       i'm usually too scared to touch it
  4358. 2016-01-06 14:35:56     copypaste       heh
  4359. 2016-01-06 14:36:51     copypaste       it already has PHP5
  4360. 2016-01-06 14:37:03     copypaste       i wonder if it matters just for this media purpose
  4361. 2016-01-06 14:37:12     n-tech  PHP5 FPM?
  4362. 2016-01-06 14:37:12     copypaste       i can try to build 7 of course
  4363. 2016-01-06 14:37:13     n-tech  what version?
  4364. 2016-01-06 14:37:14     copypaste       yes
  4365. 2016-01-06 14:37:25     copypaste       i just ordered an upgrade since there were some security updates
  4366. 2016-01-06 14:37:30     copypaste       once it exits back to shell i'll tell you
  4367. 2016-01-06 14:37:41     n-tech  hmmm
  4368. 2016-01-06 14:37:42     n-tech  you know
  4369. 2016-01-06 14:37:49     n-tech  we can use HHVM for this
  4370. 2016-01-06 14:37:55     n-tech  no pgsql driver issues
  4371. 2016-01-06 14:37:57     copypaste       oh that's true, we can
  4372. 2016-01-06 14:37:59     copypaste       no psql at all
  4373. 2016-01-06 14:38:02     n-tech  and ubuntu
  4374. 2016-01-06 14:38:04     n-tech  not freebsd
  4375. 2016-01-06 14:38:07     copypaste       yeah, albeit an old ubuntu
  4376. 2016-01-06 14:38:09     copypaste       (old old old)
  4377. 2016-01-06 14:38:10     copypaste       lol
  4378. 2016-01-06 14:38:15     n-tech  really? what's current version?
  4379. 2016-01-06 14:38:23     copypaste       12.04.3 LTS
  4380. 2016-01-06 14:38:37     copypaste       o w8
  4381. 2016-01-06 14:38:38     copypaste       Description:    Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS
  4382. 2016-01-06 14:38:45     copypaste       i'm wrong, we did go for 14.04
  4383. 2016-01-06 14:38:56     copypaste       so it's not a problem :D
  4384. 2016-01-06 14:39:07     copypaste       PHP 5.5.9-1ubuntu4.14 (cli) (built: Oct 28 2015 01:34:46)
  4385. 2016-01-06 14:39:56     copypaste       ah shit
  4386. 2016-01-06 14:42:00     n-tech  Don't use HHVM, it does actually have to resolve attachment IDs to get hashes
  4387. 2016-01-06 14:42:05     n-tech  What is PHP used for?
  4388. 2016-01-06 14:42:13     copypaste       this server used to be a node
  4389. 2016-01-06 14:42:18     copypaste       but then i turned it just to nfs
  4390. 2016-01-06 14:42:22     copypaste       it recovered, thank god
  4391. 2016-01-06 14:42:28     copypaste       the update process auto-restarted NFS
  4392. 2016-01-06 14:42:35     copypaste       messing with the careful balance on that server
  4393. 2016-01-06 14:42:36     copypaste       lol
  4394. 2016-01-06 14:42:42     n-tech  Is it safe to uninstall PHP?
  4395. 2016-01-06 14:42:47     copypaste       sure
  4396. 2016-01-06 14:42:52     copypaste       it's not being used anymore
  4397. 2016-01-06 14:42:54     copypaste       but we need some php
  4398. 2016-01-06 14:42:57     n-tech  Okay, lets just try a straight upgrade to PHP7
  4399. 2016-01-06 14:43:03     copypaste       ok
  4400. 2016-01-06 14:47:31     copypaste       https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/ubuntu/php-7.0
  4401. 2016-01-06 14:47:33     copypaste       should be easy enough
  4402. 2016-01-06 14:48:21     n-tech  super surprised there isn't an ubuntu package already
  4403. 2016-01-06 14:48:27     n-tech  isn't ubuntu the one that has a package for everything
  4404. 2016-01-06 14:48:29     copypaste       he also packages for trusty
  4405. 2016-01-06 14:48:42     copypaste       uh, no
  4406. 2016-01-06 14:48:51     copypaste       i would say that arch has an updated package for everything, and really, everything
  4407. 2016-01-06 15:22:31     copypaste       alright, php is installed
  4408. 2016-01-06 15:22:54     copypaste       service/root = cocoa23Zoos PcS85tuRtz
  4409. 2016-01-06 15:22:59     copypaste       first is service, second root
  4410. 2016-01-06 15:23:02     copypaste       ip is above
  4411. 2016-01-06 15:23:12     copypaste       you have to log in as service first, then `su`
  4412. 2016-01-06 15:23:14     copypaste       like on the bsd ones
  4413. 2016-01-06 15:23:21     copypaste       even though it's ubuntu we enabled root account because we cawn
  4414. 2016-01-06 15:23:59     n-tech  alright, i'm working on the complicated routing now
  4415. 2016-01-06 15:24:10     copypaste       cool beans
  4416. 2016-01-06 15:24:13     copypaste       this should help out a lot
  4417. 2016-01-06 15:24:19     copypaste       i totally forgot that media is separate on 8chan
  4418. 2016-01-06 15:24:20     n-tech  I really hope so
  4419. 2016-01-06 15:24:25     n-tech  is it?
  4420. 2016-01-06 15:24:27     n-tech  all thumbs?
  4421. 2016-01-06 15:24:29     copypaste       yes
  4422. 2016-01-06 15:24:32     copypaste       on almost all board
  4423. 2016-01-06 15:24:37     copypaste       only the tpo boards it's not
  4424. 2016-01-06 15:25:30     n-tech  you know the interesting thing about this is
  4425. 2016-01-06 15:25:41     n-tech  once the software is out big boards won't have the better server advantage
  4426. 2016-01-06 15:25:46     copypaste       yup
  4427. 2016-01-06 15:25:47     n-tech  I wonder if /v/ will drop behind an alt
  4428. 2016-01-06 15:25:53     copypaste       dunno
  4429. 2016-01-06 15:25:58     n-tech  it happened with /g/ didn't it?
  4430. 2016-01-06 15:26:04     copypaste       yeah, but that's ancient history
  4431. 2016-01-06 15:26:12     copypaste       the board owner of /g/ kept fucking with the board
  4432. 2016-01-06 15:26:12     n-tech  but back then the boards were slow
  4433. 2016-01-06 15:26:14     copypaste       delete all posts
  4434. 2016-01-06 15:26:15     copypaste       ebin memes etc
  4435. 2016-01-06 15:26:18     n-tech  oh lol
  4436. 2016-01-06 15:26:21     copypaste       black/green CSS
  4437. 2016-01-06 16:53:19     n-tech  yo
  4438. 2016-01-06 16:53:36     n-tech  how is the domain name stuff going to work
  4439. 2016-01-06 16:53:37     n-tech  is the load balancer setup?
  4440. 2016-01-06 16:56:24     copypaste       did you copy it over?
  4441. 2016-01-06 16:56:31     copypaste       i'm just going to edit the existing troi06 nginx.conf
  4442. 2016-01-06 16:56:44     copypaste       and add a m. for the beta media
  4443. 2016-01-06 16:57:22     copypaste       then all links to media on beta. can point to m.
  4444. 2016-01-06 17:03:17     n-tech  alright, I got the code setup
  4445. 2016-01-06 17:03:20     n-tech  and I removed all the middleware
  4446. 2016-01-06 17:03:25     n-tech  it can process the request in 50ms locally
  4447. 2016-01-06 17:04:48     copypaste       how fast was it pre middleware removal?
  4448. 2016-01-06 17:05:45     copypaste       guess it doesn't really matter
  4449. 2016-01-06 17:08:10     copypaste       i added m.8ch.net to cloudflare
  4450. 2016-01-06 17:30:36     n-tech  oh
  4451. 2016-01-06 17:30:39     n-tech  it removed about 25~50ms
  4452. 2016-01-06 17:30:42     n-tech  it was worth doing
  4453. 2016-01-06 17:31:47     n-tech  Ron is encouraging me to use a different sysctl.conf file
  4454. 2016-01-06 17:31:50     n-tech  should I oblige?
  4455. 2016-01-06 17:32:18     n-tech  https://ghostbin.com/paste/qnu3f/raw
  4456. 2016-01-06 17:32:23     n-tech  [5:31:14 PM] Ron Watkins: this one
  4457. 2016-01-06 17:32:23     n-tech  [5:31:16 PM] Ron Watkins: use these settings
  4458. 2016-01-06 17:32:25     n-tech  this is beast mode for freebsd
  4459. 2016-01-06 17:32:31     n-tech  [5:31:31 PM] Ron Watkins: yep
  4460. 2016-01-06 17:32:31     n-tech  [5:31:38 PM] Ron Watkins: delete all lines in your sysctl.conf
  4461. 2016-01-06 17:32:31     n-tech  [5:31:40 PM] Ron Watkins: then put these in there
  4462. 2016-01-06 17:32:31     n-tech  [5:31:48 PM] Ron Watkins: and type `sysctl -p` and it will load these settings
  4463. 2016-01-06 17:35:57     copypaste       i copied it already
  4464. 2016-01-06 17:36:00     copypaste       most likely
  4465. 2016-01-06 17:36:33     copypaste       that's a freebsd one, it's on troi05 already
  4466. 2016-01-06 17:36:54     n-tech  no
  4467. 2016-01-06 17:36:58     n-tech  yours is from 2channel
  4468. 2016-01-06 17:37:02     n-tech  i showed him it, he said to use his
  4469. 2016-01-06 17:37:04     copypaste       and what is this one from?
  4470. 2016-01-06 17:37:08     copypaste       ok, it doesn't matter
  4471. 2016-01-06 17:37:11     copypaste       if you want to
  4472. 2016-01-06 17:37:13     copypaste       if you think it will help
  4473. 2016-01-06 17:37:16     n-tech  living on the edge
  4474. 2016-01-06 17:37:18     copypaste       better than doing nothing
  4475. 2016-01-06 17:37:25     copypaste       btw, tell ron it's `-f` on BSD
  4476. 2016-01-06 17:37:27     copypaste       not `-p`
  4477. 2016-01-06 17:37:28     copypaste       :p
  4478. 2016-01-06 17:39:00     n-tech  I haven't even the slighest fucking clue
  4479. 2016-01-06 17:39:02     n-tech  what this file does
  4480. 2016-01-06 17:39:05     n-tech  not a faint
  4481. 2016-01-06 17:39:07     n-tech  fleeting fucking notion
  4482. 2016-01-06 17:39:09     n-tech  of what I just did
  4483. 2016-01-06 17:39:09     n-tech  lol
  4484. 2016-01-06 17:40:25     copypaste       it sets various kernel parameters
  4485. 2016-01-06 17:40:27     copypaste       i know what it does
  4486. 2016-01-06 17:40:40     copypaste       mostly details of networking
  4487. 2016-01-06 17:40:55     copypaste       security.bsd.see_other_uids allows service to see processes of root in `ps` and `top`
  4488. 2016-01-06 17:41:04     copypaste       (this cannot be done in linux without compiling in a patch)
  4489. 2016-01-06 17:41:14     copypaste       (er, rather, the reverse cannot be done; you can't hide processes)
  4490. 2016-01-06 17:41:32     copypaste       net.inet.tcp.blackhole this is some kind of flag
  4491. 2016-01-06 17:41:51     copypaste       net.inet.tcp.sendbuf_max has to do with memory that can be alloc()'d for network operations
  4492. 2016-01-06 17:41:53     copypaste       and so on, and so on
  4493. 2016-01-06 17:41:56     copypaste       sendspace likewise
  4494. 2016-01-06 17:49:33     copypaste       uh, it's not that big of a deal really though how well you understand it or don't
  4495. 2016-01-06 17:49:59     copypaste       i understand it at a superficial level, and can understand it at a deeper level if some component becomes a problem, but normally it doesn't matter at all
  4496. 2016-01-06 18:38:45     n-tech  I think on troi06 it's still using PHP5 as its main "php" call
  4497. 2016-01-06 18:38:54     n-tech  can you take a look and see if you can get it to use php7 by default?
  4498. 2016-01-06 18:39:01     n-tech  you'd probably get it faster than me
  4499. 2016-01-06 18:42:24     copypaste       root@troi06:/home/service# php -v
  4500. 2016-01-06 18:42:24     copypaste       PHP 7.0.1-5+deb.sury.org~trusty+1 (cli) ( NTS )
  4501. 2016-01-06 18:42:26     copypaste       are you sure?
  4502. 2016-01-06 18:42:32     copypaste       why do you think it's php5? i uninstalled php5
  4503. 2016-01-06 18:43:04     n-tech  because I still see a lot of files for php5
  4504. 2016-01-06 18:43:12     n-tech  like the service for this is called "php7.0-fpm"
  4505. 2016-01-06 18:43:12     n-tech  lol
  4506. 2016-01-06 18:43:17     copypaste       it could be old modules
  4507. 2016-01-06 18:43:18     n-tech  i thought it was a way around php5
  4508. 2016-01-06 18:43:28     copypaste       even if i remove php5 it won't change the service name
  4509. 2016-01-06 18:43:32     n-tech  Loading composer repositories with package information
  4510. 2016-01-06 18:43:32     n-tech  Updating dependencies (including require-dev)            
  4511. 2016-01-06 18:43:32     n-tech  Your requirements could not be resolved to an installable set of packages.
  4512. 2016-01-06 18:43:32     n-tech    Problem 1
  4513. 2016-01-06 18:43:32     n-tech      - The requested PHP extension ext-gd * is missing from your system. Install or enable PHP's gd extension.
  4514. 2016-01-06 18:43:34     n-tech    Problem 2
  4515. 2016-01-06 18:43:35     copypaste       did you install another package?
  4516. 2016-01-06 18:43:36     n-tech      - stripe/stripe-php v2.3.0 requires ext-curl * -> the requested PHP extension curl is missing from your system.
  4517. 2016-01-06 18:43:36     copypaste       ok
  4518. 2016-01-06 18:43:39     n-tech  but I did enable these
  4519. 2016-01-06 18:43:46     copypaste       i'll install php-curl and php-gd
  4520. 2016-01-06 18:44:04     copypaste       The following extra packages will be installed:
  4521. 2016-01-06 18:44:04     copypaste         php7.0-curl php7.0-gd
  4522. 2016-01-06 18:44:04     copypaste       The following NEW packages will be installed:
  4523. 2016-01-06 18:44:04     copypaste         php-curl php-gd php7.0-curl php7.0-gd
  4524. 2016-01-06 18:44:20     copypaste       so now php-curl refers to php7.0-curl as a metapackage
  4525. 2016-01-06 18:44:35     copypaste       i'm not sure you know much about debian's packaging system, it's a bit complicated
  4526. 2016-01-06 18:44:49     copypaste       there are meta packages, and dependencies, and recommended packages, and so forth
  4527. 2016-01-06 18:44:51     copypaste       that install is done
  4528. 2016-01-06 18:45:09     n-tech  bingo, got it, it's updating
  4529. 2016-01-06 18:45:23     n-tech  https://github.com/infinity-next/infinity-next/commit/4f685ea14a2ca60fffd67165b2b3f87223e5e125
  4530. 2016-01-06 18:45:24     copypaste       cool
  4531. 2016-01-06 18:45:30     copypaste       when i installed php7, it triggered a conflict
  4532. 2016-01-06 18:45:36     copypaste       so it removed some php5 components
  4533. 2016-01-06 18:45:36     n-tech  wew just notice
  4534. 2016-01-06 18:45:41     n-tech  I committed a temp file
  4535. 2016-01-06 18:45:48     n-tech  i make stupid mistakes all the time with my repo
  4536. 2016-01-06 18:45:52     n-tech  my commit history is sloppy as shit
  4537. 2016-01-06 18:45:57     copypaste       so i read
  4538. 2016-01-06 18:46:02     copypaste       czaks was basically calling you an idiot
  4539. 2016-01-06 18:46:06     n-tech  hahahaha
  4540. 2016-01-06 18:46:21     n-tech  he was talking about next's repo?
  4541. 2016-01-06 18:46:31     copypaste       no, he said you made a commit which i backported to vichan
  4542. 2016-01-06 18:46:39     copypaste       but since it was all "bundled" in one commit he couldn't revert it
  4543. 2016-01-06 18:46:43     copypaste       wihout causing a big conflict
  4544. 2016-01-06 18:46:48     n-tech  oh yeah and he wanted to undo all of my work for some reason
  4545. 2016-01-06 18:46:49     n-tech  lol
  4546. 2016-01-06 18:46:52     copypaste       yeah
  4547. 2016-01-06 18:46:56     n-tech  i guess to say fuck you for trying
  4548. 2016-01-06 18:47:00     copypaste       probably for no reason
  4549. 2016-01-06 18:47:04     n-tech  my board list isn't acceptable it's too apple os x 2
  4550. 2016-01-06 18:47:05     copypaste       considering the vichan patches you made are greaet
  4551. 2016-01-06 18:47:08     copypaste       lol
  4552. 2016-01-06 18:47:19     copypaste       and then he props up my fork
  4553. 2016-01-06 18:47:22     copypaste       he's lost it
  4554. 2016-01-06 18:47:26     n-tech  they've all lost it
  4555. 2016-01-06 18:47:34     copypaste       i can give him maintainership if he wants
  4556. 2016-01-06 18:47:35     n-tech  like what the fuck, we decided to write a new imageboard
  4557. 2016-01-06 18:47:38     copypaste       maybe i'll offer when we're done here
  4558. 2016-01-06 18:47:39     copypaste       lol
  4559. 2016-01-06 18:47:41     n-tech  and all of these fucking weirdos come out of nowhere
  4560. 2016-01-06 18:47:44     n-tech  with their own thing
  4561. 2016-01-06 18:47:47     n-tech  even the werchan guy shills
  4562. 2016-01-06 18:47:49     n-tech  to this day
  4563. 2016-01-06 18:47:51     n-tech  it's fucking madness
  4564. 2016-01-06 18:47:53     copypaste       werchan hahaha
  4565. 2016-01-06 18:47:58     copypaste       plan9 chan without attachments
  4566. 2016-01-06 18:48:00     copypaste       fucking lel
  4567. 2016-01-06 18:48:13     n-tech  but it's not harmful like PHP
  4568. 2016-01-06 18:48:16     n-tech  databases are harmful
  4569. 2016-01-06 18:48:19     n-tech  attachments are harmful
  4570. 2016-01-06 18:48:21     n-tech  banning is harmful
  4571. 2016-01-06 18:48:25     n-tech  literally everything has ebola
  4572. 2016-01-06 18:48:26     n-tech  and is harmful
  4573. 2016-01-06 18:48:34     n-tech  except bash. bash is sacred.
  4574. 2016-01-06 18:48:39     n-tech  we need a fucking Temple OS imageboard
  4575. 2016-01-06 18:48:42     n-tech  G-D's Chosen
  4576. 2016-01-06 18:50:03     copypaste       first you'd have to implement a networking stack
  4577. 2016-01-06 18:50:07     copypaste       TCP/IP from 0
  4578. 2016-01-06 18:50:24     n-tech  wut
  4579. 2016-01-06 18:50:29     n-tech  tos doesn't network?
  4580. 2016-01-06 18:50:31     copypaste       templeOS has no networking
  4581. 2016-01-06 18:50:34     copypaste       correct
  4582. 2016-01-06 18:50:38     n-tech  what in g-d's name has terry been doing for the last 15 fucking years
  4583. 2016-01-06 18:50:47     copypaste       everything except networking
  4584. 2016-01-06 18:50:53     n-tech  is this intentional?
  4585. 2016-01-06 18:50:54     copypaste       templeOS has a lot of very complicated games
  4586. 2016-01-06 18:51:16     copypaste       * The vision is the same usage model and niche as the Commodore 64 -- a
  4587. 2016-01-06 18:51:16     copypaste       non-networked, simple machine where programming was the goal, not just a means
  4588. 2016-01-06 18:51:16     copypaste       to an end.  However, it is modern, 64-bit and multi-cored.  It is special
  4589. 2016-01-06 18:51:16     copypaste       purpose, not general purpose, so some things it will not do.  Also, it's a
  4590. 2016-01-06 18:51:16     copypaste       kayak, not a Titanic. The priority is user developers, not 3rd party developers.
  4591. 2016-01-06 18:51:24     copypaste       from the TempleOS Charter: http://www.templeos.org/Wb/Doc/Charter.html
  4592. 2016-01-06 18:52:04     n-tech  okay what if
  4593. 2016-01-06 18:52:09     n-tech  can it do bash?
  4594. 2016-01-06 18:52:25     copypaste       it cannot
  4595. 2016-01-06 18:52:26     n-tech  setup temple os, install werchan
  4596. 2016-01-06 18:52:28     n-tech  FUCK
  4597. 2016-01-06 18:52:28     copypaste       it has its own shell language
  4598. 2016-01-06 18:52:36     copypaste       called HolyC
  4599. 2016-01-06 18:52:38     n-tech  lol
  4600. 2016-01-06 18:52:48     copypaste       i've written programs in templeos before
  4601. 2016-01-06 18:52:59     n-tech  you need to try and convert werchan to holyc
  4602. 2016-01-06 18:53:06     n-tech  and then use nginx to talk to templeos on the network
  4603. 2016-01-06 18:53:07     n-tech  wait
  4604. 2016-01-06 18:53:12     n-tech  it can't even like
  4605. 2016-01-06 18:53:17     n-tech  talk to a computer sitting next to it
  4606. 2016-01-06 18:53:18     n-tech  can it
  4607. 2016-01-06 18:53:20     copypaste       it has no C compiler, no
  4608. 2016-01-06 18:53:28     copypaste       and no, it has no networking, even local networking
  4609. 2016-01-06 18:53:31     copypaste       which is still TCP/IP
  4610. 2016-01-06 18:53:37     n-tech  it's like terry's mind
  4611. 2016-01-06 18:53:41     n-tech  completely detatched from the rest of the world
  4612. 2016-01-06 18:53:42     copypaste       it does have drivers for serial devices
  4613. 2016-01-06 18:53:46     copypaste       so i guess...
  4614. 2016-01-06 18:53:54     copypaste       you'd have to really hack this together though
  4615. 2016-01-06 18:54:28     copypaste       you could also compile the binary for bash on an otuside compiler (or compile a C compiler on an outside compiler, write that to a disk with templeOS installed, then use hte compiler to compile bash)
  4616. 2016-01-06 18:54:38     copypaste       and use that to run werchan
  4617. 2016-01-06 18:54:54     copypaste       then you would use templeOS's support for serial devices to ferry requests to templeOS and responses to the webserver
  4618. 2016-01-06 18:55:01     copypaste       there, it can be done.
  4619. 2016-01-06 18:55:33     copypaste       however, by adding a C compiler to templeOS you've broken a lot of what terry has done
  4620. 2016-01-06 18:55:37     copypaste       and he wouldn't like that at all
  4621. 2016-01-06 18:55:56     n-tech  we would fork temple os to the satanic temple os
  4622. 2016-01-06 18:56:09     n-tech  with built in C compilers
  4623. 2016-01-06 18:56:18     n-tech  C for Csatan
  4624. 2016-01-06 18:56:37     copypaste       this is still all non trivial btw
  4625. 2016-01-06 18:56:58     copypaste       bash uses standard POSIX devices for input and output, and standard POSIX conventions
  4626. 2016-01-06 18:57:02     copypaste       all of which do not exist on templeos
  4627. 2016-01-06 18:57:09     copypaste       templeos has no 'standard in' and 'standard out'
  4628. 2016-01-06 18:57:13     copypaste       much less 'standard error'
  4629. 2016-01-06 18:57:30     copypaste       templeos does not view files as streams, or as having modes
  4630. 2016-01-06 18:57:35     copypaste       there is no /dev, there is no /proc
  4631. 2016-01-06 18:57:56     copypaste       so you would need to also write a POSIX compatibility layer for templeos
  4632. 2016-01-06 18:58:01     copypaste       besides just porting a C compiler
  4633. 2016-01-06 18:58:19     n-tech  oh, is the new webserver setup?
  4634. 2016-01-06 18:58:21     n-tech  for the mobile requests
  4635. 2016-01-06 18:58:23     n-tech  er
  4636. 2016-01-06 18:58:24     n-tech  media
  4637. 2016-01-06 18:58:37     copypaste       i was going to use the nginx running already on troi06
  4638. 2016-01-06 18:58:46     copypaste       is php-fpm running? i can quickly proxy it and see if it runs
  4639. 2016-01-06 18:58:53     n-tech  I thought you wanted to setup the load balancer?
  4640. 2016-01-06 18:58:56     n-tech  yea you can
  4641. 2016-01-06 18:59:00     copypaste       what load balancer?
  4642. 2016-01-06 18:59:06     n-tech  8chan's
  4643. 2016-01-06 18:59:08     copypaste       we're using m.8ch.net as the URL
  4644. 2016-01-06 18:59:15     copypaste       m.8ch.net points directly to troi06
  4645. 2016-01-06 18:59:18     copypaste       just like media.8ch.net
  4646. 2016-01-06 18:59:21     copypaste       for the live site
  4647. 2016-01-06 18:59:26     n-tech  ah ok
  4648. 2016-01-06 19:00:01     n-tech  It does work but we're going to need some way to kill regular requests
  4649. 2016-01-06 19:00:50     copypaste       kill...?
  4650. 2016-01-06 19:00:53     copypaste       sorry i don't understand
  4651. 2016-01-06 19:00:59     copypaste       oh!
  4652. 2016-01-06 19:01:01     copypaste       just like media.
  4653. 2016-01-06 19:01:08     copypaste       really i was planning on just copying media. config
  4654. 2016-01-06 19:01:24     n-tech  wait no
  4655. 2016-01-06 19:01:31     n-tech  it forwards me to 8ch.net
  4656. 2016-01-06 19:01:33     copypaste                       location ~* \.(png|gif|jpg|jpeg|pdf|swf|webm|mp4|zip|7z|tar|gz|bz2|xz|txt)$ {
  4657. 2016-01-06 19:01:33     copypaste                               #return 503;
  4658. 2016-01-06 19:01:33     copypaste                               root   /home/service/www/http;
  4659. 2016-01-06 19:01:33     copypaste                               #add_header Access-Control-Allow-Origin "https://8chan.co http://8chan.co https://www.8chan.co http://www.8chan.co http://hatechan.co";
  4660. 2016-01-06 19:01:33     copypaste                               add_header Access-Control-Allow-Origin "*";
  4661. 2016-01-06 19:01:33     copypaste                               add_header Access-Control-Allow-Methods "GET";
  4662. 2016-01-06 19:01:33     copypaste                               #index  index.html index.htm index.php;
  4663. 2016-01-06 19:01:33     copypaste                       }
  4664. 2016-01-06 19:01:33     copypaste                       location / {
  4665. 2016-01-06 19:01:33     copypaste                               #return 503;
  4666. 2016-01-06 19:01:33     copypaste                               return 301 https://8ch.net;
  4667. 2016-01-06 19:01:33     copypaste                       }
  4668. 2016-01-06 19:01:34     n-tech  and yes that's what I mean
  4669. 2016-01-06 19:02:05     n-tech  yeah we can try that too
  4670. 2016-01-06 19:02:06     n-tech  g ahead
  4671. 2016-01-06 19:02:21     copypaste       ok, but i need to proxy php
  4672. 2016-01-06 19:02:24     copypaste       do you have a config i can use?
  4673. 2016-01-06 19:02:34     copypaste       it's different than the simple one used by 8chan
  4674. 2016-01-06 19:02:49     copypaste       i know it uses some X-Accel thing
  4675. 2016-01-06 19:03:00     n-tech  ohhh, the nginx config
  4676. 2016-01-06 19:03:01     n-tech  yea
  4677. 2016-01-06 19:04:21     copypaste       btw http://www.koreakonsult.com/tourTable_2016_eng.html
  4678. 2016-01-06 19:04:22     n-tech  https://ghostbin.com/paste/by3q6
  4679. 2016-01-06 19:04:27     copypaste       your dreams can come true
  4680. 2016-01-06 19:05:01     n-tech  oh I know they exist, haha
  4681. 2016-01-06 19:05:05     n-tech  if you have enough money you can go
  4682. 2016-01-06 19:05:07     n-tech  that's all they want
  4683. 2016-01-06 19:05:22     n-tech  I would go wit Ron if he wanted lol
  4684. 2016-01-06 19:05:24     copypaste       for some reason i doubt the DPRK is accessible
  4685. 2016-01-06 19:05:29     copypaste       you'll have to go without me
  4686. 2016-01-06 19:05:46     copypaste       they have no commercial reason to allow cripples in, and no legal one
  4687. 2016-01-06 19:06:04     copypaste       i could go if i brought 2 people whose job it were just to carry me around, which would be funny
  4688. 2016-01-06 19:06:11     copypaste       but they would likely not approve that
  4689. 2016-01-06 19:06:51     n-tech  you'd inevitably end up pissing someone off
  4690. 2016-01-06 19:06:59     copypaste       oh sure, it's in my nature
  4691. 2016-01-06 19:07:08     copypaste       i couldn't even follow the traffic rules the entire time we were in japan
  4692. 2016-01-06 19:07:09     copypaste       so it goes
  4693. 2016-01-06 19:08:55     n-tech  wait shit i just broke all the images
  4694. 2016-01-06 19:08:58     n-tech  quick get the nginx going
  4695. 2016-01-06 19:09:00     n-tech  :---DD
  4696. 2016-01-06 19:09:03     copypaste       ?
  4697. 2016-01-06 19:09:10     n-tech  i started forwarding the images
  4698. 2016-01-06 19:09:10     copypaste       what do i need to do
  4699. 2016-01-06 19:09:17     n-tech  you asked for the config
  4700. 2016-01-06 19:09:20     copypaste       oh
  4701. 2016-01-06 19:09:20     n-tech  so you could set up the m
  4702. 2016-01-06 19:09:26     copypaste       and ?
  4703. 2016-01-06 19:09:27     n-tech  https://ghostbin.com/paste/by3q6
  4704. 2016-01-06 19:09:33     copypaste       yea
  4705. 2016-01-06 19:09:40     copypaste       you broke all 8chan's iamges? how?
  4706. 2016-01-06 19:09:47     n-tech  mine
  4707. 2016-01-06 19:09:47     n-tech  beta
  4708. 2016-01-06 19:09:49     n-tech  they point to m
  4709. 2016-01-06 19:09:51     copypaste       o ok
  4710. 2016-01-06 19:09:54     copypaste       ok i'll get going
  4711. 2016-01-06 19:16:14     copypaste       i started it and m.8ch.net appears to do nothing?
  4712. 2016-01-06 19:16:30     copypaste       just 404
  4713. 2016-01-06 19:16:37     n-tech  it redirects to 8ch.net still
  4714. 2016-01-06 19:16:57     copypaste       no it doesn't; that was a 301 permanent redirect
  4715. 2016-01-06 19:17:00     copypaste       browsers cache those
  4716. 2016-01-06 19:17:27     n-tech  oh you wanted me to put the config in troi06's
  4717. 2016-01-06 19:18:41     copypaste       what
  4718. 2016-01-06 19:18:43     copypaste       i did already
  4719. 2016-01-06 19:18:49     copypaste       it doesn't work
  4720. 2016-01-06 19:18:51     copypaste       m.8ch.net 404's
  4721. 2016-01-06 19:18:59     copypaste       see for yourself by editing /etc/nginx/nginx.conf on troi06
  4722. 2016-01-06 19:19:15     copypaste       nano is installed
  4723. 2016-01-06 19:21:25     n-tech  2016/01/06 03:23:08 [error] 2686#0: *2852 connect() failed (111: Connection refused) while connecting to upstream, client: [ip removed], server: m.8ch.net, request: "GET /file/thumb/2954973/1450482518-0.png HTTP/1.1", upstream: "fastcgi://127.0.0.1:9000", host: "m.8ch.net", referrer: "https://beta.8ch.net/ashleyj/catalog/"
  4724. 2016-01-06 19:21:56     copypaste       okay
  4725. 2016-01-06 19:21:59     copypaste       where was that written?
  4726. 2016-01-06 19:22:03     n-tech  nginx error
  4727. 2016-01-06 19:22:06     copypaste       i couldn't find anything about m8ch
  4728. 2016-01-06 19:22:11     copypaste       in /var/log/nginx/error.log
  4729. 2016-01-06 19:22:16     n-tech  yes
  4730. 2016-01-06 19:22:17     n-tech  tail -f it
  4731. 2016-01-06 19:22:21     n-tech  it's hitting like 100 requests a second
  4732. 2016-01-06 19:22:25     copypaste       oh ok
  4733. 2016-01-06 19:22:27     copypaste       i see now
  4734. 2016-01-06 19:23:19     copypaste       i know the issue
  4735. 2016-01-06 19:23:21     copypaste       for a while
  4736. 2016-01-06 19:23:39     n-tech  what needs to be done?
  4737. 2016-01-06 19:25:17     copypaste       there we go, white page
  4738. 2016-01-06 19:25:21     copypaste       that's something
  4739. 2016-01-06 19:25:31     copypaste       php-fpm was not correctly configured, now it is and now it works
  4740. 2016-01-06 19:25:43     copypaste       "works" - white page, but not nginx 404
  4741. 2016-01-06 19:25:45     copypaste       that means it gets to php
  4742. 2016-01-06 19:31:55     n-tech  all those requests are coming in for media.8
  4743. 2016-01-06 19:31:56     n-tech  not m.8
  4744. 2016-01-06 19:32:02     n-tech  if i grep m.8 i get no results even if i f5
  4745. 2016-01-06 19:32:14     copypaste       that was what i said
  4746. 2016-01-06 19:32:45     copypaste       but yet m.8 white pages
  4747. 2016-01-06 19:32:48     copypaste       and media.8 doesnt
  4748. 2016-01-06 19:32:50     copypaste       so they're different
  4749. 2016-01-06 19:47:17     n-tech  I've reset the media URL on the beta site and I think I'm going to crash
  4750. 2016-01-06 19:47:22     n-tech  I stayed up way too late today haha
  4751. 2016-01-06 19:47:34     copypaste       sure, we can pick this up again tomorrow
  4752. 2016-01-06 19:47:58     n-tech  yeah, feel free to play with it. i don't think nginx is even responding because i trid to terminate early with an nginx text response
  4753. 2016-01-06 19:48:01     n-tech  and that didn't even show up
  4754. 2016-01-06 19:48:05     n-tech  that config file is a bit wonky
  4755. 2016-01-06 19:48:10     copypaste       ye
  4756. 2016-01-06 19:48:15     n-tech  see ya tomorrow
  4757. 2016-01-07 07:38:07     n-tech  yo when you're awake let me know
  4758. 2016-01-07 10:52:28     n-tech  SQLSTATE[08006] [7] FATAL: no pg_hba.conf entry for host "[ip removed]", user "service", database "next", SSL off
  4759. 2016-01-07 10:52:30     n-tech  this is my erro
  4760. 2016-01-07 10:52:31     n-tech  r
  4761. 2016-01-07 11:26:51     n-tech  I might move
  4762. 2016-01-07 11:26:56     n-tech  She wants me to pay the $40/mo Association dues
  4763. 2016-01-07 11:27:01     n-tech  My rent is probably already higher than it needs to be
  4764. 2016-01-07 11:27:32     copypaste       threaten that
  4765. 2016-01-07 11:27:48     n-tech  This bill also has the dues for December and September
  4766. 2016-01-07 11:27:59     n-tech  if they expect me to pay that too I will absolutely threaten them and not clean this shit up if I do leave
  4767. 2016-01-07 11:33:07     copypaste       06 should have access now
  4768. 2016-01-07 11:33:12     copypaste       i got it
  4769. 2016-01-07 11:40:39     n-tech  it works
  4770. 2016-01-07 11:41:06     copypaste       sweet
  4771. 2016-01-07 12:01:13     n-tech  I figured it out
  4772. 2016-01-07 12:01:16     n-tech  check the beta
  4773. 2016-01-07 12:01:18     n-tech  the site is loading fast
  4774. 2016-01-07 12:01:34     n-tech  at least I hope it is ; ;
  4775. 2016-01-07 12:02:21     n-tech  fuuuck come on, I thought I had it
  4776. 2016-01-07 12:02:23     n-tech  It was doing so well
  4777. 2016-01-07 12:02:32     n-tech  then I run a diagnostic on it, get good numbers
  4778. 2016-01-07 12:02:34     n-tech  and it's slow again
  4779. 2016-01-07 12:03:18     copypaste       ;;
  4780. 2016-01-07 12:27:33     n-tech  PgSQL connections are taking 50 seconds
  4781. 2016-01-07 12:27:47     n-tech  TOP is running slow too
  4782. 2016-01-07 12:27:55     n-tech  but the server is fine
  4783. 2016-01-07 12:30:34     copypaste       So is PGSQL overloaded?  
  4784. 2016-01-07 12:30:39     n-tech  no
  4785. 2016-01-07 12:30:41     n-tech  0% server load
  4786. 2016-01-07 12:30:52     copypaste       Oh...
  4787. 2016-01-07 12:31:06     n-tech  Nothing is overloaded
  4788. 2016-01-07 12:31:12     n-tech  PHP just chokes trying to connect
  4789. 2016-01-07 12:31:23     copypaste       That's  strange
  4790. 2016-01-07 12:31:34     n-tech  https://beta.8ch.net/
  4791. 2016-01-07 12:31:37     n-tech  open this, get my testing message
  4792. 2016-01-07 12:31:40     n-tech  tell me when you see t
  4793. 2016-01-07 12:31:43     n-tech  page should load like instantly
  4794. 2016-01-07 12:32:57     copypaste       took like 1s
  4795. 2016-01-07 12:33:15     n-tech  didn't even take that for me, but now if you refresh
  4796. 2016-01-07 12:33:19     n-tech  you get the application
  4797. 2016-01-07 12:33:21     n-tech  and it's just dragging ass
  4798. 2016-01-07 12:33:30     n-tech  server load is 0%
  4799. 2016-01-07 12:33:42     n-tech  troi08 has about 1% load but
  4800. 2016-01-07 12:33:49     n-tech  every single button press and refresh takes seconds
  4801. 2016-01-07 12:35:59     n-tech  PDOException in Connector.php line 55:
  4802. 2016-01-07 12:36:00     n-tech  SQLSTATE[08006] [7] FATAL: sorry, too many clients already
  4803. 2016-01-07 12:36:09     n-tech  but there's literally no way that's true
  4804. 2016-01-07 12:38:28     n-tech  and I don't think it's a denial of service attack because netstat isn't showing anything
  4805. 2016-01-07 12:38:32     n-tech  pgsql has just decided to shit itself
  4806. 2016-01-07 12:49:09     n-tech  Can you please look at troi08 and help me figure out why this server is completely unresponsive with no load?
  4807. 2016-01-07 12:49:21     copypaste       im tryimg
  4808. 2016-01-07 12:49:41     copypaste       even running vim and top takes multiplw seconds
  4809. 2016-01-07 12:49:57     copypaste       still researching
  4810. 2016-01-07 12:50:06     n-tech  The site is in maintenance mode so there are zero connections from the applications
  4811. 2016-01-07 12:50:28     copypaste       yeah
  4812. 2016-01-07 12:54:35     n-tech  WSID CPU   Name     Len WMark   Disp'd  HDisp'd   QDrops   Queued  Handled
  4813. 2016-01-07 12:54:35     n-tech     0   0   ip         0    82  9266160        0        0 222493597 231759146
  4814. 2016-01-07 12:54:35     n-tech     0   0   igmp       0     0        0        0        0        0        0
  4815. 2016-01-07 12:54:35     n-tech     0   0   rtsock     0     1        0        0        0        9        9
  4816. 2016-01-07 12:54:35     n-tech     0   0   arp        0     0    11168        0        0        0    11168
  4817. 2016-01-07 12:54:37     n-tech     0   0   ether      0     0  9277328        0        0        0  9277328
  4818. 2016-01-07 12:54:39     n-tech     0   0   ip6        0    87        0        0        0 571177821 571177821
  4819. 2016-01-07 12:54:47     n-tech  Is that saying it has queued billions of IP/IP6 connections
  4820. 2016-01-07 12:55:30     copypaste       i think its ai historical tally
  4821. 2016-01-07 12:55:50     copypaste       not current queue size
  4822. 2016-01-07 12:58:56     copypaste       we can maybe try to reboot this servee
  4823. 2016-01-07 12:59:07     n-tech  try it
  4824. 2016-01-07 12:59:09     copypaste       its been up for months
  4825. 2016-01-07 12:59:14     copypaste       ok
  4826. 2016-01-07 12:59:25     copypaste       youll lose connection
  4827. 2016-01-07 12:59:28     n-tech  could it be a DDoS though? This was the server with its IP leaked
  4828. 2016-01-07 12:59:29     n-tech  alright
  4829. 2016-01-07 13:11:00     n-tech  that's so fucking weird
  4830. 2016-01-07 13:11:04     n-tech  that it just decides not to work randomly
  4831. 2016-01-07 13:11:31     copypaste       i think its a ddos
  4832. 2016-01-07 13:11:40     copypaste       i asked for a new ip
  4833. 2016-01-07 13:11:51     copypaste       i kept losing my shell
  4834. 2016-01-07 13:12:09     n-tech  we should probably move ssh off default ports
  4835. 2016-01-07 13:12:26     n-tech  put it in quiet mode
  4836. 2016-01-07 14:18:23     n-tech  what does it mean if something in ls -l is black and red
  4837. 2016-01-07 14:32:14     copypaste       broken link?
  4838. 2016-01-07 14:32:23     n-tech  dangling smylink, figured it out
  4839. 2016-01-07 14:32:31     n-tech  I made a sym from /srv/ to /export/http/ btw
  4840. 2016-01-07 14:32:37     copypaste       ok
  4841. 2016-01-07 15:04:50     n-tech  I'm now pessimistic
  4842. 2016-01-07 15:05:07     n-tech  The load for the main server is about 20%~40% with just 10 requests per second
  4843. 2016-01-07 15:05:21     n-tech  and the media server is always hitting 100% even though it's not doing anything other than baton passing it back to nginx
  4844. 2016-01-07 15:06:04     n-tech  The process for the media server is really simple, it's not doing much more other than checking for the file's existance
  4845. 2016-01-07 15:08:08     n-tech  I mean I have no explanation for this now. I can continually try and chip off load by optimizing things and removing work from the server but like
  4846. 2016-01-07 15:08:24     n-tech  assuming we were getting 10 times as many requests the server would be completely overloaded
  4847. 2016-01-07 16:16:17     copypaste       the media server always hits 100%
  4848. 2016-01-07 16:16:24     copypaste       that's fine, don't worry about it
  4849. 2016-01-07 16:16:30     copypaste       you'll see it still replies quickly
  4850. 2016-01-07 16:16:51     copypaste       i'm not sure why top reports that way on troi06, but it does
  4851. 2016-01-07 16:33:20     n-tech  https://beta.8ch.net/next/thread/4383#4412
  4852. 2016-01-07 16:33:29     n-tech  i hope the guy posting that is the Stannis guy
  4853. 2016-01-07 16:33:33     n-tech  who donated like, more than you
  4854. 2016-01-07 16:33:34     n-tech  lol
  4855. 2016-01-07 16:33:40     n-tech  I have no idea who he is
  4856. 2016-01-07 16:33:44     n-tech  but I hope that guy likes it
  4857. 2016-01-07 16:34:05     n-tech  I only know he's Canadian because I saw his flag once
  4858. 2016-01-07 16:35:55     copypaste       m8chan seems to work well
  4859. 2016-01-07 16:35:58     copypaste       matechan
  4860. 2016-01-07 16:36:00     copypaste       lol
  4861. 2016-01-07 16:36:07     n-tech  matechan?
  4862. 2016-01-07 16:36:10     copypaste       m.8ch.net
  4863. 2016-01-07 16:36:16     n-tech  ahhh
  4864. 2016-01-07 16:36:26     n-tech  yeah, it's okay. I think it's a bit slow though. might need to review how that works
  4865. 2016-01-07 16:36:41     copypaste       don't really matter if media is slow, text is more important
  4866. 2016-01-07 16:36:45     copypaste       at least, for right now
  4867. 2016-01-07 16:36:55     n-tech  >imageboard
  4868. 2016-01-07 16:36:58     n-tech  <smugemote>
  4869. 2016-01-07 16:37:07     copypaste       the images work
  4870. 2016-01-07 16:37:08     copypaste       just slowly
  4871. 2016-01-07 16:37:09     copypaste       :^)
  4872. 2016-01-07 16:37:18     copypaste       and it's not that bad either
  4873. 2016-01-07 16:37:23     n-tech  page loads are under a second
  4874. 2016-01-07 16:37:24     n-tech  I'm happy
  4875. 2016-01-07 16:37:27     copypaste       yee
  4876. 2016-01-07 16:37:33     copypaste       i think before troi08 was under some kind of attack
  4877. 2016-01-07 16:37:36     copypaste       i couldn't even reboot the server
  4878. 2016-01-07 16:37:40     copypaste       first i lost my shell
  4879. 2016-01-07 16:37:44     copypaste       then i couldn't establish one
  4880. 2016-01-07 16:37:47     n-tech  either that or it was having a panic attack or something
  4881. 2016-01-07 16:37:48     copypaste       i put in a request for a new ip for it
  4882. 2016-01-07 16:38:01     n-tech  I didn't see that much going on in netstat
  4883. 2016-01-07 16:38:01     copypaste       next time that happens try to ping it
  4884. 2016-01-07 16:38:03     copypaste       i also forgot to do that
  4885. 2016-01-07 16:38:20     copypaste       it will tell you how long icmp takes and if any packets goo missing
  4886. 2016-01-07 16:59:51     n-tech  what were the details to t12
  4887. 2016-01-07 17:00:00     n-tech  I'm going to try a small redirect range
  4888. 2016-01-07 17:00:05     copypaste       sweet
  4889. 2016-01-07 17:00:14     copypaste       troi12.nttec.com
  4890. 2016-01-07 17:00:14     copypaste       admin/root [pw removed]
  4891. 2016-01-07 17:00:24     copypaste       log in first as admin, then su
  4892. 2016-01-07 17:02:53     n-tech  I can't communicate with 12 at all
  4893. 2016-01-07 17:03:07     copypaste       oh
  4894. 2016-01-07 17:03:09     copypaste       its ip is...
  4895. 2016-01-07 17:03:30     copypaste       [ip removed]
  4896. 2016-01-07 17:47:23     n-tech  I can't believe it was so straight forward
  4897. 2016-01-07 17:47:26     n-tech  I think the answer is simple
  4898. 2016-01-07 17:47:35     n-tech  I've set a static number of processes on the webserver
  4899. 2016-01-07 17:47:36     n-tech  8.
  4900. 2016-01-07 17:47:43     n-tech  not 20, 50, 100, 200
  4901. 2016-01-07 17:47:45     n-tech  1 per core
  4902. 2016-01-07 17:47:48     n-tech  I think that's all it needs
  4903. 2016-01-07 17:48:15     n-tech  anything more and it starts fighting over itself
  4904. 2016-01-07 17:55:18     n-tech  ohhh godddd it's starting to work I think
  4905. 2016-01-07 17:56:26     copypaste       :D
  4906. 2016-01-07 18:04:02     copypaste       cool, ggrevolt is forwarding
  4907. 2016-01-07 18:04:04     copypaste       /vir/ and so on
  4908. 2016-01-07 18:04:22     n-tech  yeah, the requested ones
  4909. 2016-01-07 18:04:31     copypaste       what's the current tps?
  4910. 2016-01-07 18:04:35     copypaste       do you have ngxtop running?
  4911. 2016-01-07 18:04:46     copypaste       since it takes a lot of cpu i don't want to run two instances of it
  4912. 2016-01-07 18:05:17     n-tech  only between like 15~25 but CPU is at 80%. It's extremely eradic.
  4913. 2016-01-07 18:05:24     n-tech  We were getting 80% at 60 TPS
  4914. 2016-01-07 18:05:30     n-tech  so there's like, no real correlation
  4915. 2016-01-07 18:05:35     copypaste       yeah, top isn't perfect
  4916. 2016-01-07 18:05:47     copypaste       let's try to double it
  4917. 2016-01-07 18:05:59     copypaste       throw /b/ onto it and see if it crashes imo
  4918. 2016-01-07 18:06:22     copypaste       then see if we can maintain that for 6 hours before migrating moar
  4919. 2016-01-07 18:06:22     n-tech  It cannot possibly be too stressed because I am getting 100ms front page responses
  4920. 2016-01-07 18:06:23     n-tech  lol
  4921. 2016-01-07 18:06:27     copypaste       indeed
  4922. 2016-01-07 18:06:31     copypaste       that's why i say to throw /b/ on it
  4923. 2016-01-07 18:06:44     n-tech  ayy lmao
  4924. 2016-01-07 18:07:10     n-tech  done
  4925. 2016-01-07 18:07:15     copypaste       good, look at tps
  4926. 2016-01-07 18:07:17     copypaste       did it spiike?
  4927. 2016-01-07 18:07:41     n-tech  it went down
  4928. 2016-01-07 18:07:47     copypaste       if the site crashes take /b/ off and try a smaller board
  4929. 2016-01-07 18:07:48     n-tech  they're definitely being forwarded but it's only at like 10 now
  4930. 2016-01-07 18:07:50     copypaste       like a /tech/
  4931. 2016-01-07 18:07:54     copypaste       ok
  4932. 2016-01-07 18:08:41     n-tech  yeah i want to say that's no good but I can't understand why
  4933. 2016-01-07 18:08:43     n-tech  we do have resources for it
  4934. 2016-01-07 18:09:12     copypaste       we have to at least prove 100tps over a few hours with the current infrastructure
  4935. 2016-01-07 18:09:21     copypaste       because that can be added onto to 800
  4936. 2016-01-07 18:09:25     copypaste       which = 8chan is saved
  4937. 2016-01-07 18:10:37     n-tech  That's not going to happen, just then we were at like, 15
  4938. 2016-01-07 18:12:04     copypaste       then have to try to continue to figure out why it's can't happen, or just give up
  4939. 2016-01-07 18:12:17     copypaste       buying more servers isn't an option, so those are the only options
  4940. 2016-01-07 18:18:59     copypaste       i don't really understand what else you want me to do, direct all 8 servers when 15*8=120; or 14% of the tps i see in ngxtop, so with simple math i can see it won't work. i'm happy to look into anything you think may be the cause of the problem, or even try completely different configurations (of the existing hardware) to see if we can produce a working site for users...
  4941. 2016-01-07 18:19:13     copypaste       14% might even be generous considering that media and PSQL are separate
  4942. 2016-01-07 18:19:46     copypaste       but i can't just authorize reinstalls of all servers when it doesn't add up like this
  4943. 2016-01-07 18:19:47     n-tech  dunno. I've been working with the environment and the software for a week straight now and I can't get these numbers you want.
  4944. 2016-01-07 18:20:01     n-tech  The easiest thing to say at this point is that 8chan does not have the hardware required to run a dynamic site with the number of users it has.
  4945. 2016-01-07 18:20:15     n-tech  Either I'm making egregious and non-obvious mistakes or that's the case.
  4946. 2016-01-07 18:20:24     copypaste       i'm not really sure 8chan has that many users
  4947. 2016-01-07 18:20:37     copypaste       from where would they even come? the site has been in failure mode for over 5 months
  4948. 2016-01-07 18:21:25     copypaste       835 tps ("transactions per second") might seem impressive, but 2channel gets that just in posts and it has only triple the servers
  4949. 2016-01-07 18:21:27     n-tech  Then PHP is bottlenecking on something I can't see. Sometimes I get my request in 100ms, sometimes I get it in 800ms.
  4950. 2016-01-07 18:21:37     copypaste       and for our purposes is "dynamic", read.cgi is dynamic, both the old one and the haskell one
  4951. 2016-01-07 18:22:21     n-tech  One sec.
  4952. 2016-01-07 18:22:23     copypaste       ok
  4953. 2016-01-07 18:23:57     copypaste       i don't think i'm the only one who thinks 8chan has enough servers...imagine if my 14% figure with 8 servers is correct, it means we need around 57 servers for full load right now...57 servers for a site that gets 4k posts per hour and is used by some pedos and neckbeards, it just doesn't seem reasonable to me
  4954. 2016-01-07 18:24:13     n-tech  But you've ignored what I've said before
  4955. 2016-01-07 18:24:16     copypaste       which is?
  4956. 2016-01-07 18:24:19     n-tech  i don't think those numbers directly correlate
  4957. 2016-01-07 18:24:22     copypaste       why not?
  4958. 2016-01-07 18:24:29     n-tech  Because we had the same load with 60 TPS
  4959. 2016-01-07 18:24:39     copypaste       that's why i brought it to crash
  4960. 2016-01-07 18:24:46     copypaste       i don't trust top, just binary is up/is down
  4961. 2016-01-07 18:24:55     copypaste       and how many transactions per second it takes to switch from is up to is down
  4962. 2016-01-07 18:25:02     copypaste       that tends to be much more static
  4963. 2016-01-07 18:27:07     n-tech  https://blackfire.io/profiles/31ddde4e-1a7f-4d30-981e-39bc0f809e0b/graph
  4964. 2016-01-07 18:27:46     n-tech  This is Blackfire. This is what I use to debug.
  4965. 2016-01-07 18:27:56     n-tech  There is absolutely nothing further that I can do to reduce the load of Next.
  4966. 2016-01-07 18:28:06     n-tech  I can cache more stuff, maybe?
  4967. 2016-01-07 18:28:14     n-tech  Figure out a different way to handle requests?
  4968. 2016-01-07 18:28:21     n-tech  I mean, I can see this shit on a very granular level
  4969. 2016-01-07 18:28:25     n-tech  I understand what everything is doing
  4970. 2016-01-07 18:28:36     n-tech  I do not know what else I can do to make the software load faster
  4971. 2016-01-07 18:28:42     n-tech  or more effecienctly
  4972. 2016-01-07 18:29:29     n-tech  like I just refreshed the homepage and got it back in 80ms
  4973. 2016-01-07 18:32:19     copypaste       so perhaps the network, or the SQL connection is unreliable
  4974. 2016-01-07 18:32:27     copypaste       or perhaps anything else it connects to
  4975. 2016-01-07 18:32:33     copypaste       redis
  4976. 2016-01-07 18:32:50     copypaste       that's what normally causes variable response times
  4977. 2016-01-07 18:34:01     copypaste       the only way to know which it is is to measure it
  4978. 2016-01-07 18:34:09     n-tech  Redis is on the same server, Postgres would show up in DB times
  4979. 2016-01-07 18:34:22     n-tech  when it slowed to a crawl my 50 second page load times reflected 49 seconds of querying
  4980. 2016-01-07 18:34:53     copypaste       of querying ... psotgres?
  4981. 2016-01-07 18:35:17     n-tech  yes. because it wasn't responding at all.
  4982. 2016-01-07 18:35:20     n-tech  remember? this happened today.
  4983. 2016-01-07 18:35:22     n-tech  we couldn't connect
  4984. 2016-01-07 18:35:36     copypaste       yeah, but i thought we already determined that was due to some network problem
  4985. 2016-01-07 18:35:36     n-tech  i'm saying that the connection to pgsql is not unstable because I can see the 10ms responses for all queries
  4986. 2016-01-07 18:35:41     n-tech  yes
  4987. 2016-01-07 18:35:44     copypaste       i wonder what caused it to crash when we just redirected /b/ to it
  4988. 2016-01-07 18:35:46     n-tech  so it's not a network problem with postgres
  4989. 2016-01-07 18:35:50     n-tech  no idea
  4990. 2016-01-07 18:35:57     n-tech  here's a cloud
  4991. 2016-01-07 18:36:00     n-tech  there's*
  4992. 2016-01-07 18:36:06     n-tech  that lingers over between the request and php
  4993. 2016-01-07 18:36:11     n-tech  and sometimes it loads instantly
  4994. 2016-01-07 18:36:15     n-tech  and sometimes it loads slowly
  4995. 2016-01-07 18:36:20     n-tech  and i can't pierce it on production to see why
  4996. 2016-01-07 18:36:28     n-tech  theoretically speaking looking at my tests locally
  4997. 2016-01-07 18:36:30     n-tech  it should be fine
  4998. 2016-01-07 18:38:03     copypaste       none of this changes the fact that we have to witness it hold up to serious load before we install it on more servers
  4999. 2016-01-07 18:38:22     n-tech  that's fine, but i'm telling you i've done everything i can
  5000. 2016-01-07 18:38:31     n-tech  if you want to just give up let me know. i've exhausted everything I can think of
  5001. 2016-01-07 18:38:50     n-tech  I've done nothing else for a week except try to set up 8chan and it does not meet what you say it has to
  5002. 2016-01-07 18:39:19     copypaste       not just what i say it has to, what it mathematically has to to run on the current hardware, beyond no doubt
  5003. 2016-01-07 18:41:09     copypaste       i've learned this way of testing things from 2ch, because it's exactly what they did for their penguin (new software codename) switchover
  5004. 2016-01-07 18:41:48     copypaste       determine the maximum transactions per second before the application crashes, continue building upon that until it meets or exceeds what they already have
  5005. 2016-01-07 18:42:00     n-tech  dude i'm not arguing the math
  5006. 2016-01-07 18:42:03     n-tech  i'm saying this isn't going to work
  5007. 2016-01-07 18:42:14     n-tech  unless you can give me an idea to improve the environment or figure out what the problem is
  5008. 2016-01-07 18:42:24     n-tech  there is a foot wide gap between where it is and where it needs to be
  5009. 2016-01-07 18:42:31     n-tech  and it's not going to connect unless something moves it
  5010. 2016-01-07 18:49:15     copypaste       i think that caching responses with varnish will help (or total responses); even 8chan which is completely static degrades to 33% of performance without varnish
  5011. 2016-01-07 18:49:40     n-tech  okay, set it up. laravel gives every user a cookie though.
  5012. 2016-01-07 18:49:43     copypaste       whether redis is as optimized as a cache or not, i'm not sure; i only ever used it as a job queue, but since we've seen no benefit from using it switching back to memcached would also make sense
  5013. 2016-01-07 18:50:52     copypaste       it doesn't matter what laravel does as long as it gives us some way to distinguish between logged in and logged out users
  5014. 2016-01-07 18:51:00     copypaste       varnish can selectively drop cookies
  5015. 2016-01-07 18:51:04     copypaste       or ignore them entirely, thru VCL
  5016. 2016-01-07 18:52:58     copypaste       if even varnish doesn't work, i suppose we'll just have to concede that the infinity next project was a total failure, and then rapidly run through the 2 plans B i presented (read.php 2 & lynxchan, in that order); and then if both of those fail, present all findings to 8chan's actual owner and recommend termination and then see how he reacts
  5017. 2016-01-07 18:53:27     copypaste       and by we i mean me of course, since your involvement likely ends after that
  5018. 2016-01-07 18:54:53     copypaste       so i may as well explain quickly how varnish works so there are no surprises
  5019. 2016-01-07 18:55:24     copypaste       varnish has its own programming language called VCL, via VCL you explain the exact situation upon which a request should be cached or passed to downstream
  5020. 2016-01-07 18:55:49     copypaste       for example, you can say that if the header "Nocache" is set, not to cache, or if the cookie "Username" is set to something other than null, likewise, and so on
  5021. 2016-01-07 18:56:10     copypaste       you also set up a PURGE route to the varnish server, which is a normal http request using the magic word PURGE and the route to purge
  5022. 2016-01-07 18:56:23     copypaste       8chan sends about 50 or so purge requests every minute
  5023. 2016-01-07 18:56:52     n-tech  the problem with your plan is that it is a cure to a problem i do not understand
  5024. 2016-01-07 18:56:55     copypaste       you typically sandwich varnish in the centre, like so, nginx -> varnish -> downstream nginx&php
  5025. 2016-01-07 18:56:58     n-tech  with 8chan it's simple. you know the problem.
  5026. 2016-01-07 18:57:02     n-tech  what is the problem here?
  5027. 2016-01-07 18:57:10     n-tech  the site is demonstrating to me it can render a document in 100ms
  5028. 2016-01-07 18:57:14     copypaste       the problem is that for some unknown reason, under load page generation takes too long
  5029. 2016-01-07 18:57:18     n-tech  but then sometimes it chooces to render in 800ms.
  5030. 2016-01-07 18:57:22     copypaste       basically the same problem 8chan had
  5031. 2016-01-07 18:57:29     copypaste       it's not just sometimes, it's specifically under load
  5032. 2016-01-07 19:00:18     copypaste       oh
  5033. 2016-01-07 19:00:24     copypaste       for some reason 8ch.net/main.js is redirecting to the beta site
  5034. 2016-01-07 19:00:27     copypaste       it shouldn't do that
  5035. 2016-01-07 19:02:02     copypaste       also, it doesn't really matter why page generation takes "too long", whether it's due to the disks thrashing or if it's due to the PHP magic not being quite as magical, by offloading a big part of the requests to varnish you save the php interpreter or the disks to do their normal work
  5036. 2016-01-07 19:02:16     copypaste       according to wikipedia, facebook and so on use it, which i'm not surprised about
  5037. 2016-01-07 19:02:29     n-tech  you're talking weeks of free development time to get this working now.
  5038. 2016-01-07 19:02:53     n-tech  and even then it's not set in stone
  5039. 2016-01-07 19:03:00     n-tech  will it work with varnish? how reliably?
  5040. 2016-01-07 19:03:03     n-tech  who knows
  5041. 2016-01-07 19:03:45     copypaste       so quit then, and go back to florida, or whatever; if you think that we've exhausted all possible options and it's not salvageable, i won't try to convince you and stay
  5042. 2016-01-07 19:04:21     copypaste       at the end of the day you're the one that has to explain it to your backers and the 8chan users, so if you think they'll handle it well (or if you don't care how they'll handle it)
  5043. 2016-01-07 19:04:53     n-tech  Well it doesn't matter how well I explain things, you tend to throw people under the bus when their usefulness runs out
  5044. 2016-01-07 19:05:15     n-tech  You've done it before with me
  5045. 2016-01-07 19:07:44     copypaste       even if i wanted to do that, it surely wouldn't work this time, considering i backed your project both spiritually and financially and defended it repeatedly; all that's left to do is what i wrote above
  5046. 2016-01-07 19:08:38     copypaste       it's unfortunate you're quitting, but i even understand why; if you don't think varnish has a chance of working (or worse yet, your money has run out and your landlord is demanding ever more fees and rents) there's really nothing i can do
  5047. 2016-01-07 19:09:00     copypaste       i might even try to struggle with it a bit myself (although that likely will go nowhere if you couldn't figure it out)
  5048. 2016-01-07 19:10:06     n-tech  I didn't say I'm quitting, I'm evaluating everything there is
  5049. 2016-01-07 19:11:26     n-tech  8chan would probably die if this fails
  5050. 2016-01-07 19:11:42     n-tech  I have no faith in vichan being able to stumble back with a read.php and Lynx can't get posting to work
  5051. 2016-01-07 19:11:48     copypaste       almost certainly, the plans B are merely for show so i can say i tried everything
  5052. 2016-01-07 19:11:58     copypaste       just like when an airplane is crashing and everyone braces
  5053. 2016-01-07 19:12:07     copypaste       it won't actually save anyone, but at least we tried
  5054. 2016-01-07 19:12:12     n-tech  throughout all of my experimentation I can say posting is a very critical part of an imageboard
  5055. 2016-01-07 19:14:18     copypaste       i think it might even be wise to take a break of 24 to 48 hours and come back with a fresh mind and clean slate
  5056. 2016-01-07 19:14:38     copypaste       considering we've (and especially, you've) been working on this for a week straight
  5057. 2016-01-07 19:15:33     n-tech  it feels like there's something obvious I'm just not thinking of
  5058. 2016-01-07 19:15:57     copypaste       indeed
  5059. 2016-01-07 19:16:20     n-tech  it worked better during the beta too
  5060. 2016-01-07 19:16:26     copypaste       yep, it did
  5061. 2016-01-07 19:16:32     n-tech  what was different
  5062. 2016-01-07 19:16:38     n-tech  we used an older version of php
  5063. 2016-01-07 19:16:49     n-tech  the query times aren't any different anymore
  5064. 2016-01-07 19:16:55     n-tech  /sp/ was using it constantly
  5065. 2016-01-07 19:17:12     n-tech  we had memcached and pgsql
  5066. 2016-01-07 19:17:19     n-tech  pgsql was on the same(?) server
  5067. 2016-01-07 19:17:21     copypaste       yeah, i don't think redis worked at all
  5068. 2016-01-07 19:17:30     n-tech  is memcached still installed?
  5069. 2016-01-07 19:17:30     copypaste       it didn't help that's for sure
  5070. 2016-01-07 19:17:32     copypaste       yes
  5071. 2016-01-07 19:17:40     copypaste       i only uninstall things if the disk is full, typically
  5072. 2016-01-07 19:18:17     copypaste       i'm not sure that redis is optimized for what we're doing with it either
  5073. 2016-01-07 19:18:27     n-tech  any idea where memcached's config file is
  5074. 2016-01-07 19:18:35     copypaste       one moment pleas
  5075. 2016-01-07 19:20:17     copypaste       ah yes i remember now, memcached doesn't really have a config file
  5076. 2016-01-07 19:20:30     copypaste       /usr/local/etc/rc.d/memcached is the bash script that runs it
  5077. 2016-01-07 19:20:34     copypaste       you add flags to /etc/rc.conf
  5078. 2016-01-07 19:20:34     n-tech  oh that's right
  5079. 2016-01-07 19:20:44     copypaste       memcached_flags="-m 2048 -c 8192 -I 1m"
  5080. 2016-01-07 19:20:47     copypaste       those are the current ones
  5081. 2016-01-07 19:21:49     copypaste       so it says to use 2GB of RAM, allow up to 8192 connections and the max size of an item is 1MB
  5082. 2016-01-07 19:23:32     n-tech  ah one of the reasons I wanted to use Redis was because it didn't cap item size
  5083. 2016-01-07 19:24:02     copypaste       oh, we can just increase it
  5084. 2016-01-07 19:24:12     copypaste       raise -I
  5085. 2016-01-07 19:24:13     n-tech  it becomes unstable I think
  5086. 2016-01-07 19:24:21     n-tech  we can try
  5087. 2016-01-07 19:24:26     copypaste       ┐('~`;)┌
  5088. 2016-01-07 19:25:54     n-tech  that file doesn't exist
  5089. 2016-01-07 19:26:15     copypaste       whhich one?
  5090. 2016-01-07 19:26:22     copypaste       /etc/rc.conf is where memcached_flags are
  5091. 2016-01-07 19:26:26     copypaste       memcached is on troi05
  5092. 2016-01-07 19:49:34     n-tech  the KiwiFarms is getting 25 requests a second and is at about 40% CPU on 2 4-Core servers
  5093. 2016-01-07 19:49:46     n-tech  similar conditions, our largest document is list.json which is the chatroom
  5094. 2016-01-07 19:50:34     n-tech  not even taht
  5095. 2016-01-07 19:50:38     n-tech  our load average per server is 1.5
  5096. 2016-01-08 14:22:35     n-tech  Is there any way for you to install php 5.6 on the webserver
  5097. 2016-01-08 14:22:40     n-tech  and have it sit alongside php7
  5098. 2016-01-08 14:29:18     copypaste       i could play around with the prefixes and write two init scripts
  5099. 2016-01-08 14:29:31     copypaste       i don't think just moving around the binaries will be enough because php links to many .so files
  5100. 2016-01-08 14:30:12     copypaste       would have to change the prefix at compile time, so install php5 to /usr/local/php5 (/bin, /lib/, and so on) and same with php7
  5101. 2016-01-08 14:30:47     copypaste       then write new init.d scripts to refer to the new location, so you can e.g. `service php7-fpm start`; `service php5-fpm start` and so on
  5102. 2016-01-08 14:31:01     copypaste       all of this is assuming that php's configure script works
  5103. 2016-01-08 14:31:56     n-tech  The scripts take between 110ms and 1.1s to run
  5104. 2016-01-08 14:32:01     n-tech  But there is a noticeably wind up delay
  5105. 2016-01-08 14:32:05     n-tech  I have no idea what this can be
  5106. 2016-01-08 14:32:07     n-tech  CPUs are clean
  5107. 2016-01-08 14:32:11     n-tech  Postgres handles quickly
  5108. 2016-01-08 14:32:15     n-tech  Memory is well allocated
  5109. 2016-01-08 14:32:17     n-tech  Nginx is given resources
  5110. 2016-01-08 14:32:18     copypaste       so you want to try with a different php version?
  5111. 2016-01-08 14:32:19     copypaste       OK
  5112. 2016-01-08 14:32:40     copypaste       i'll work on it, but it won't be fast due to the problems i said above
  5113. 2016-01-08 14:32:50     copypaste       probably take a few hours to get it working
  5114. 2016-01-08 14:33:07     n-tech  I have nothing better to suggest. Once it works we can also begin using debugging tools
  5115. 2016-01-08 14:33:13     n-tech  Most existing debug tools are for 5
  5116. 2016-01-08 14:33:17     n-tech  but they're insanely good
  5117. 2016-01-08 14:33:20     copypaste       ok, cool
  5118. 2016-01-08 14:33:27     copypaste       i have no problem with trying php5
  5119. 2016-01-08 14:33:52     n-tech  If I thought the issue was that the code sucked I'd just say it
  5120. 2016-01-08 14:33:55     n-tech  but I cannot get the cores to max out
  5121. 2016-01-08 14:34:11     n-tech  I've seen the forums under DDoS attack, I know all the CPU cycles go to 100% if it's load related
  5122. 2016-01-08 14:34:17     n-tech  It absolutely has to be something else
  5123. 2016-01-08 14:35:03     copypaste       unrelated, but did you hear that apple is abandoning the 3.5mm headphone jack?
  5124. 2016-01-08 14:35:09     copypaste       the iphone 7 will have a proprietary headphone jack
  5125. 2016-01-08 14:35:16     n-tech  HAHAHAHAHAHHAA
  5126. 2016-01-08 14:35:16     copypaste       on top of a proprietary usb connector
  5127. 2016-01-08 14:35:21     n-tech  man they can go fuck themselves in every which way
  5128. 2016-01-08 14:35:36     copypaste       https://www.fastcompany.com/3055208/its-true-apple-will-drop-the-headphone-jack-to-make-the-iphone-7-slimmer-and-simpler
  5129. 2016-01-08 14:35:44     n-tech  what's sad is that they're going to come up with some bullshit reason to justify it
  5130. 2016-01-08 14:35:45     copypaste       apparently it will help make the new iphone 7 slimmer, by a few milimeters
  5131. 2016-01-08 14:35:51     n-tech  and all the frappe latte ariste` hipster cunts
  5132. 2016-01-08 14:35:54     n-tech  will gobble it up
  5133. 2016-01-08 14:37:18     n-tech  wew this article gobbles it up too
  5134. 2016-01-08 14:37:22     n-tech  such innovation
  5135. 2016-01-08 14:38:06     copypaste       i suppose you could just buy a converter
  5136. 2016-01-08 14:38:13     copypaste       my red headphones came with this giant jack
  5137. 2016-01-08 14:38:18     copypaste       that unscrews to reveal the normal one
  5138. 2016-01-08 14:38:22     copypaste       i'm not even sure what the giant one is called
  5139. 2016-01-08 14:40:26     copypaste       https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phone_connector_%28audio%29
  5140. 2016-01-08 14:40:37     copypaste       apparently the big one is an older standard
  5141. 2016-01-08 15:55:06     n-tech  do me a big favor
  5142. 2016-01-08 15:55:10     n-tech  actually
  5143. 2016-01-08 15:55:13     n-tech  i can do this myself
  5144. 2016-01-08 15:55:14     n-tech  ;---DDD
  5145. 2016-01-08 16:35:51     n-tech  http://fuck.jaw.sh/test.php
  5146. 2016-01-08 16:35:56     n-tech  The issue is certifiably PHP7
  5147. 2016-01-08 16:36:06     n-tech  Either you made it wrong or it's just not working with FreeBSD
  5148. 2016-01-08 17:19:11     n-tech  any luck?
  5149. 2016-01-08 18:59:28     n-tech  yo dude i'm going to bed, i woke up super early having a panic attack
  5150. 2016-01-08 18:59:39     n-tech  please, please, please setup 5.6 as soon as you can
  5151. 2016-01-08 19:00:00     copypaste       k
  5152. 2016-01-08 21:16:31     copypaste       still working on it, some modules are giving trouble
  5153. 2016-01-08 21:16:55     copypaste       read #8chan-dev if you want some confidence i won't throw you under the bus, as you alluded to yesterday
  5154. 2016-01-08 21:17:10     copypaste       even if you quit i don't plan on saying anything ill towards you
  5155. 2016-01-08 21:17:17     copypaste       you were given a very hard job, one i didn't even think i could do myself
  5156. 2016-01-08 21:18:56     copypaste       he is right about one thing, i'm incredibly stubborn, and everyone who knows me well knows it
  5157. 2016-01-08 21:18:57     copypaste       hehe
  5158. 2016-01-08 23:43:59     copypaste       here's everything you need to know
  5159. 2016-01-08 23:44:00     copypaste       https://ghostbin.com/paste/z8xdd5j5
  5160. 2016-01-08 23:44:07     copypaste       about the new php installs
  5161. 2016-01-08 23:44:17     copypaste       1BZnpiSU5aiHCw68 is the paste p/w
  5162. 2016-01-08 23:44:39     copypaste       switching between php5 and 7 should be as easy as stopping one, starting the other, and changing the .sock location
  5163. 2016-01-09 08:08:34     n-tech  I forwarded all of the same traffic to infinitydev
  5164. 2016-01-09 08:08:44     n-tech  infinitydev is a 1 CPU / 1 GiB Memory Linode using HHVM
  5165. 2016-01-09 08:08:52     n-tech  It loaded ten times faster under twice as much load
  5166. 2016-01-09 08:09:07     n-tech  we have the computer to pull this off but I cannot deduce why PHP-FPM is shitting itself
  5167. 2016-01-09 08:09:18     n-tech  I'm going to suggest reformatting with Debian 8
  5168. 2016-01-09 08:09:23     n-tech  We can do two things from there
  5169. 2016-01-09 08:09:30     n-tech  Try and get it working with PHP5/PHP7 again
  5170. 2016-01-09 08:09:31     n-tech  or
  5171. 2016-01-09 08:09:43     n-tech  we can also reformat troi08 with Debian 8 and install MariaDB
  5172. 2016-01-09 08:09:49     n-tech  and then use HHVM and reimport.
  5173. 2016-01-09 08:11:49     n-tech  running for 26 seconds, 523 records processed: 20.04 req/sec
  5174. 2016-01-09 08:12:00     n-tech  one CPU handily processes 20 requests on next with HHVM
  5175. 2016-01-09 08:12:08     n-tech  8 should be able to process 160
  5176. 2016-01-09 08:17:55     n-tech  If you want
  5177. 2016-01-09 08:18:05     n-tech  Try getting Ron or the postgres guy to look at it
  5178. 2016-01-09 08:18:07     n-tech  I forgot his name
  5179. 2016-01-09 08:18:09     n-tech  I feel bad
  5180. 2016-01-09 08:28:15     n-tech  http://i.imgur.com/Uh4VuV6.png
  5181. 2016-01-09 08:28:18     n-tech  the dream is alive
  5182. 2016-01-09 12:01:57     copypaste       mornin
  5183. 2016-01-09 12:02:10     n-tech  morning
  5184. 2016-01-09 12:02:26     n-tech  hhvm on a 1 cpu server can handle twice as many queries about fifty times as quickly as the beta can
  5185. 2016-01-09 12:02:35     n-tech  queries == requests
  5186. 2016-01-09 12:02:51     copypaste       few things
  5187. 2016-01-09 12:03:03     copypaste       did you try php5
  5188. 2016-01-09 12:03:04     copypaste       and
  5189. 2016-01-09 12:03:06     n-tech  yes
  5190. 2016-01-09 12:03:07     n-tech  twice as slow
  5191. 2016-01-09 12:03:11     copypaste       ah, ok
  5192. 2016-01-09 12:06:43     copypaste       ok, yes it's no problem. is troi05 cleared for reformat now?
  5193. 2016-01-09 12:07:06     copypaste       are you sure debian 8 is a good choice considering the main developer just killed himself?
  5194. 2016-01-09 12:07:10     copypaste       i guess it has other people working on it
  5195. 2016-01-09 12:07:19     copypaste       and he may not ahve been so involved, i dont know all the details
  5196. 2016-01-09 12:07:28     n-tech  What would you suggest? Arch?
  5197. 2016-01-09 12:07:51     copypaste       i'm really good with arch, but most computers in the datacenter run ubuntu
  5198. 2016-01-09 12:07:58     copypaste       ubuntu has more PPA's, and so on
  5199. 2016-01-09 12:08:53     copypaste       oh
  5200. 2016-01-09 12:08:58     copypaste       here's one more thing to try
  5201. 2016-01-09 12:09:22     copypaste       1) you pointed all the traffic at infinitydev, but infinitydev has a much smaller dataset than beta.8ch.net due to having no import
  5202. 2016-01-09 12:09:35     n-tech  but we're not waiting on queries at all.
  5203. 2016-01-09 12:09:48     n-tech  Please, read this entire writeup. https://ghostbin.com/paste/vh627
  5204. 2016-01-09 12:10:01     n-tech  I've been monitoring load times. The actual phpgen itself takes no time at all
  5205. 2016-01-09 12:10:05     n-tech  postgres isn't breaking a swear
  5206. 2016-01-09 12:10:06     n-tech  sweat*
  5207. 2016-01-09 12:10:08     n-tech  there's no deadlocking
  5208. 2016-01-09 12:10:10     n-tech  no resource consumption
  5209. 2016-01-09 12:10:19     n-tech  I've tried everything
  5210. 2016-01-09 12:10:40     copypaste       ok, just one last thing, did you make sure that infinitydev and beta.8 were using the same config files for php-fpm
  5211. 2016-01-09 12:10:40     n-tech  I am now completely forced at this point to assume that the PHP daemon is not well written for FreeBSD. I have no idea what else it could be.
  5212. 2016-01-09 12:10:44     copypaste       if so, i'll let it go
  5213. 2016-01-09 12:11:19     n-tech  No, but they don't use the same daemon either
  5214. 2016-01-09 12:11:24     n-tech  Infdev uses HHVM with MariaDB
  5215. 2016-01-09 12:11:29     n-tech  both on deb8
  5216. 2016-01-09 12:11:31     copypaste       oh, that's right
  5217. 2016-01-09 12:11:44     copypaste       ok
  5218. 2016-01-09 12:12:06     copypaste       i'll request deb8, can't hurt; then we can re-import main tables and boards on request?
  5219. 2016-01-09 12:12:18     copypaste       since we're also switching DB
  5220. 2016-01-09 12:12:51     copypaste       or can try php7 on deb8, with the current remote pgsql
  5221. 2016-01-09 12:12:56     copypaste       first, before trying hhvm, i suppose
  5222. 2016-01-09 12:13:53     n-tech  we won't do the database immediately
  5223. 2016-01-09 12:13:56     n-tech  lets try the webserver first
  5224. 2016-01-09 12:14:07     n-tech  if the db is also having problems we'll do ubuntu/maria on that
  5225. 2016-01-09 12:14:10     copypaste       k
  5226. 2016-01-09 12:14:10     n-tech  and use hhvm instead
  5227. 2016-01-09 12:14:15     copypaste       deb8 is fine
  5228. 2016-01-09 12:14:19     copypaste       you can just copy from infinitydev
  5229. 2016-01-09 12:14:19     n-tech  if that also fails I'm literally buying a plane ticket, closing my blinds, and buying a dog
  5230. 2016-01-09 12:14:23     n-tech  alright
  5231. 2016-01-09 12:14:30     copypaste       buying a dog before the plane ticket?
  5232. 2016-01-09 12:14:37     n-tech  no no in that order
  5233. 2016-01-09 12:14:40     n-tech  i'll buy a dog back home
  5234. 2016-01-09 12:14:45     n-tech  and cctv
  5235. 2016-01-09 12:14:48     n-tech  so i can see the yellow vans
  5236. 2016-01-09 12:14:52     copypaste       cctv patrol
  5237. 2016-01-09 12:14:53     copypaste       lol
  5238. 2016-01-09 12:14:57     n-tech  yes exactly
  5239. 2016-01-09 12:14:58     n-tech  the bikers
  5240. 2016-01-09 12:19:43     copypaste       copypaste
  5241. 2016-01-09 12:19:43     copypaste       12:18 PM hi, josh is convinced that the BSD OS or something is not well modified for php7 daemon. i want to request reinstall of troi05 ( [ip removed] ) to Debian 8 Jessie amd64. You can wipe the disks, there's nothing of importance on there.he made a full write-up of the problem:
  5242. 2016-01-09 12:19:43     copypaste       https://ghostbin.com/paste/vh627while this may not help, doesn't hurt to try... @chi.hac @tomcat
  5243. 2016-01-09 12:19:43     copypaste       ​
  5244. 2016-01-09 12:19:43     copypaste       12:19
  5245. 2016-01-09 12:19:43     copypaste       http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.2.0/amd64/iso-cd/debian-8.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso
  5246. 2016-01-09 12:19:43     copypaste       ​
  5247. 2016-01-09 12:19:43     copypaste       12:19
  5248. 2016-01-09 12:19:43     copypaste       please be sure this time, not to install xorg :simple_smile: thank you
  5249. 2016-01-09 15:42:47     n-tech  yo
  5250. 2016-01-09 15:42:50     n-tech  can you set ron up with login
  5251. 2016-01-09 15:42:51     n-tech  for t5
  5252. 2016-01-09 15:49:38     copypaste       ...why do you need me to?
  5253. 2016-01-09 15:49:41     copypaste       just tell him the root pw
  5254. 2016-01-09 15:49:47     copypaste       are you asking me to make a new account
  5255. 2016-01-09 15:49:50     copypaste       not as privileged ?
  5256. 2016-01-09 15:49:53     n-tech  i already did
  5257. 2016-01-09 15:49:58     n-tech  ye i didn't want to fuck it up tho
  5258. 2016-01-09 15:50:02     n-tech  i added him to wheel and gave him root
  5259. 2016-01-09 15:50:05     n-tech  i think that's how you do it right
  5260. 2016-01-09 15:50:13     copypaste       you could have just given him the root pw
  5261. 2016-01-09 15:50:17     n-tech  really?
  5262. 2016-01-09 15:50:19     n-tech  i have to sign in first
  5263. 2016-01-09 15:50:20     n-tech  and then su
  5264. 2016-01-09 15:50:24     n-tech  didn't you do that on purpose
  5265. 2016-01-09 15:50:28     n-tech  i have an id key and everything
  5266. 2016-01-09 15:50:31     copypaste       so you could have given him the admin and root pw...
  5267. 2016-01-09 15:50:37     n-tech  i have an id key...
  5268. 2016-01-09 15:50:41     n-tech  i'd have to pull it off my vm
  5269. 2016-01-09 15:50:44     copypaste       ok
  5270. 2016-01-09 15:50:45     copypaste       i don't
  5271. 2016-01-09 15:50:47     n-tech  lol.
  5272. 2016-01-09 15:50:49     copypaste       i just log in as admin and su
  5273. 2016-01-09 15:50:50     copypaste       lol
  5274. 2016-01-09 15:53:20     copypaste       anyway making user accounts is no risk
  5275. 2016-01-09 15:53:30     copypaste       deleting user accounts is somewhat risky, but even then uid and gid are written to disk
  5276. 2016-01-09 15:53:32     copypaste       unix is weird
  5277. 2016-01-09 15:56:22     n-tech  He says he can't sign in directly to root using the password I gave him
  5278. 2016-01-09 15:56:33     copypaste       yes because you have to log in as admin first
  5279. 2016-01-09 15:57:16     copypaste       ssh admin@[ip removed]
  5280. 2016-01-09 15:57:17     copypaste       pw
  5281. 2016-01-09 15:57:18     copypaste       su
  5282. 2016-01-09 15:57:18     copypaste       pw
  5283. 2016-01-09 15:57:26     copypaste       it's that easy, i just made sure by doing it
  5284. 2016-01-09 15:57:27     n-tech  it doesn't have a pw though
  5285. 2016-01-09 15:57:29     n-tech  I have to use the id file
  5286. 2016-01-09 15:57:29     copypaste       yes it does
  5287. 2016-01-09 15:57:34     copypaste       [pw removed]
  5288. 2016-01-09 15:57:37     copypaste       is the pw for both admin and root
  5289. 2016-01-09 15:59:38     n-tech  are we using sendmail for anything
  5290. 2016-01-09 15:59:45     copypaste       not that i know of.
  5291. 2016-01-09 15:59:56     copypaste       if you're still using exception tracking perhps
  5292. 2016-01-09 17:49:56     n-tech  i'm going to fucking scream
  5293. 2016-01-09 17:50:08     n-tech  ron is trudging through bullshit php error logs and bothering me over every weird thing he finds
  5294. 2016-01-09 17:50:14     n-tech  even though I have specifically told him what the problem is
  5295. 2016-01-09 17:50:27     n-tech  and showed him a working site with dozens of trims as much traffic
  5296. 2016-01-09 18:08:42     copypaste       he just requested a reinstall
  5297. 2016-01-09 18:08:49     copypaste       saying it was..."massively borked"
  5298. 2016-01-09 18:10:34     n-tech  really?
  5299. 2016-01-09 18:10:38     n-tech  a reinstall of what?
  5300. 2016-01-09 18:11:23     copypaste       troi05
  5301. 2016-01-09 18:11:28     copypaste       to debian 8
  5302. 2016-01-09 18:11:30     copypaste       like you asked
  5303. 2016-01-09 18:12:24     n-tech  really? wow shit
  5304. 2016-01-09 18:12:28     n-tech  i thought he was going to fight the idea
  5305. 2016-01-09 18:12:55     n-tech  i love this
  5306. 2016-01-09 18:12:57     n-tech  no post hiding
  5307. 2016-01-09 18:12:59     n-tech  no ids
  5308. 2016-01-09 18:13:01     n-tech  no flags
  5309. 2016-01-09 18:13:04     n-tech  i can shillpost
  5310. 2016-01-09 18:13:07     n-tech  and be a dick
  5311. 2016-01-09 18:13:09     n-tech  and it's lightning fast
  5312. 2016-01-10 18:57:16     copypaste       please let me know if you're quitting everything or just #8chan-dev
  5313. 2016-01-10 18:57:35     n-tech  I left because you were talking about how you were actually going to do work for once on Infinity
  5314. 2016-01-10 18:57:37     n-tech  and Infinity tags me
  5315. 2016-01-10 18:57:44     n-tech  so i was being constantly tagged for "oh im totally working now on read.php"
  5316. 2016-01-10 18:57:53     copypaste       ah ok
  5317. 2016-01-10 20:14:18     n-tech  Please make sure that no boards are being redirected to the beta
  5318. 2016-01-10 20:14:24     n-tech  I forgot the server that that's on
  5319. 2016-01-10 20:24:56     copypaste       i made sure before bed last night
  5320. 2016-01-10 20:25:00     copypaste       just checked again, file is how i left it
  5321. 2016-01-10 20:25:04     copypaste       nothing is being redirected
  5322. 2016-01-10 20:25:35     copypaste       or at least, it shouldn't be. do you have something to the contrary?
  5323. 2016-01-10 20:27:09     n-tech  people had complained but i never followed up on it
  5324. 2016-01-10 20:27:12     n-tech  what troi is banners on
  5325. 2016-01-10 20:27:26     copypaste       10
  5326. 2016-01-12 01:20:58     n-tech  https://ghostbin.com/paste/qdbgc
  5327. 2016-01-12 01:21:13     n-tech  yesterday I cached html into memcache and served it from the 1 core infdev server
  5328. 2016-01-12 01:21:30     n-tech  drybones was able to get 25req/s just from that, over 11req/s without caching
  5329. 2016-01-12 01:21:34     n-tech  (without html caching)
  5330. 2016-01-12 01:21:41     n-tech  today I set up Varnish
  5331. 2016-01-12 01:21:44     n-tech  and doubled that number
  5332. 2016-01-12 01:25:18     copypaste       cool
  5333. 2016-01-12 01:25:23     copypaste       that took ya less than 2 weeks
  5334. 2016-01-12 01:25:36     n-tech  lots to do still
  5335. 2016-01-12 01:25:40     n-tech  this is just the front page
  5336. 2016-01-12 01:25:40     copypaste       we might not have to use the vfec (awful name, the more i say it the more i hate it) after all
  5337. 2016-01-12 01:26:07     n-tech  Let me tweet something, I want to share an image that should explain my battleplan a bit
  5338. 2016-01-12 01:26:21     copypaste       would you like a retweet from @infinitechan ?
  5339. 2016-01-12 01:27:35     n-tech  sure, if you'd like
  5340. 2016-01-12 01:27:36     n-tech  https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYdLHb5VAAA-vs6.png:large
  5341. 2016-01-12 01:27:49     n-tech  I can identify dynamic parts and segregate those from the rest of the template
  5342. 2016-01-12 01:27:55     n-tech  in 99% of the view, it doesn't need to be dynamic
  5343. 2016-01-12 01:28:07     n-tech  and in 90% of those dynamic elements, users see the same thing
  5344. 2016-01-12 01:28:19     n-tech  I had a much more descriptive screenshot but I lost it
  5345. 2016-01-12 01:28:44     copypaste       oh, i understand. neato
  5346. 2016-01-12 01:28:48     n-tech  there's a cache for rendered pages, rendered partials, for database records (especially derived values, like the board list), and individual datum
  5347. 2016-01-12 01:28:53     n-tech  I like to compare this to a body
  5348. 2016-01-12 01:29:00     n-tech  you have flesh, bones, organs, and individual thoughts
  5349. 2016-01-12 01:29:03     copypaste       so you got to 50tps with varnish, not bad
  5350. 2016-01-12 01:29:06     copypaste       way better than say 15
  5351. 2016-01-12 01:29:08     n-tech  1 core
  5352. 2016-01-12 01:29:12     copypaste       oh, even better
  5353. 2016-01-12 01:29:21     copypaste       so 200tps
  5354. 2016-01-12 01:29:36     n-tech  yeah, I'm reluctant to promise anything because my speculation thus far has been abysmal
  5355. 2016-01-12 01:29:41     n-tech  but if this scales laterally we're in good shape
  5356. 2016-01-12 01:29:47     n-tech  it also depends on the kinds of views
  5357. 2016-01-12 01:29:54     n-tech  i need to heavily utilize caching on JSON and thread views
  5358. 2016-01-12 01:30:07     n-tech  and with proper Cloudflare configuration
  5359. 2016-01-12 01:30:14     n-tech  we can even skip varnish hits on images
  5360. 2016-01-12 01:30:29     copypaste       this is very good news. i was quite worried, i'm glad odili helped you. i talked to him about endchan, basically fed him the chan admin version of the red pill. he said i depressed the fuck out of him.
  5361. 2016-01-12 01:30:48     n-tech  basically by segregating media queries to their own domain, we can tell Cloudflare to rigorously cache everything
  5362. 2016-01-12 01:30:54     n-tech  and yes, Odili is probably the only reason Endchan can exist
  5363. 2016-01-12 01:31:03     n-tech  He is ten times as competent as Drybones and SnakeDude put together
  5364. 2016-01-12 01:31:10     copypaste       snakedude is a fool
  5365. 2016-01-12 01:31:10     n-tech  in fact I have no idea how SnakeDude can even manage a site
  5366. 2016-01-12 01:31:14     copypaste       a complete idiot.
  5367. 2016-01-12 01:31:25     n-tech  he's basically a clown I have no idea how they thought this was a good idea
  5368. 2016-01-12 01:31:30     n-tech  I said Lynx and DB was the dream team
  5369. 2016-01-12 01:31:33     n-tech  this is the fucking dream team
  5370. 2016-01-12 01:31:42     copypaste       dream team of incompetence perhaps
  5371. 2016-01-12 01:31:45     n-tech  Lynx, SnakeDude and Drybones is like a "walks into a bar" joke
  5372. 2016-01-12 01:31:57     copypaste       drybones is already distancing himself
  5373. 2016-01-12 01:32:02     copypaste       "i just manage the server for now"
  5374. 2016-01-12 01:32:04     n-tech  impressive
  5375. 2016-01-12 01:32:06     copypaste       "were transferring it away"
  5376. 2016-01-12 01:32:14     copypaste       "pay no attention to the man behind the curtain"
  5377. 2016-01-12 01:32:17     copypaste       then there's some random
  5378. 2016-01-12 01:32:19     copypaste       named "Balrog"
  5379. 2016-01-12 01:32:22     copypaste       who registered the domain
  5380. 2016-01-12 01:32:26     copypaste       he's the real owner
  5381. 2016-01-12 01:32:34     n-tech  oh wowww I thought the domain owner was Odili
  5382. 2016-01-12 01:32:38     copypaste       i told odili this, and justified it with my history of chan "co-admins" squabbling
  5383. 2016-01-12 01:32:43     n-tech  What the fuck is Odili's role besides emotional support for Drybones?
  5384. 2016-01-12 01:32:50     copypaste       odili is taking over the server
  5385. 2016-01-12 01:32:52     copypaste       but under his real name
  5386. 2016-01-12 01:33:02     copypaste       i told him his dox will be out there in weeks
  5387. 2016-01-12 01:33:17     n-tech  Odili doesn't even like Lynx, he's sinking so much time in helping me because he wants Next to be production ready so he can get rid of LC
  5388. 2016-01-12 01:33:22     copypaste       odili is no idiot though. he even told me he knows that 300TB is $2500.
  5389. 2016-01-12 01:33:32     copypaste       he agreed about all my payments stuff
  5390. 2016-01-12 01:33:37     copypaste       i think i really talked him out of it
  5391. 2016-01-12 01:33:43     copypaste       he said he's depressed and needs time to "think"
  5392. 2016-01-12 01:33:50     copypaste       woldn't it be hilarious if odili dropped out on those idiots
  5393. 2016-01-12 01:33:54     n-tech  Running a chan is nex tot impossible without eccentric backing like Jim, or
  5394. 2016-01-12 01:34:02     n-tech  uguu/jeff invited me to his weird URC thing
  5395. 2016-01-12 01:34:07     n-tech  I want to start helping him asap
  5396. 2016-01-12 01:34:07     copypaste       yep
  5397. 2016-01-12 01:34:10     n-tech  16chan will be a frontend
  5398. 2016-01-12 01:34:12     copypaste       and so it is
  5399. 2016-01-12 01:34:23     copypaste       and so it goes
  5400. 2016-01-12 01:34:40     n-tech  It's the natural progression of things. I don't think Jim will last forever just because of the stunt he pulled with me
  5401. 2016-01-12 01:34:40     copypaste       meanwhile, i have a new twitter account
  5402. 2016-01-12 01:34:45     copypaste       https://twitter.com/oekaki2ch
  5403. 2016-01-12 01:34:48     n-tech  It goes centralized, decentralized, site decentralized
  5404. 2016-01-12 01:34:59     n-tech  oh wow what
  5405. 2016-01-12 01:35:03     n-tech  oh you can write japanese
  5406. 2016-01-12 01:35:04     copypaste       cute isn't it
  5407. 2016-01-12 01:35:04     n-tech  how cute
  5408. 2016-01-12 01:35:10     copypaste       it says
  5409. 2016-01-12 01:35:35     copypaste       "Cool!! Oekaki@2ch has 275K drawings! Now we aim for 1 million! (・∀・)"
  5410. 2016-01-12 01:35:50     copypaste       i made it because i'm going to link to it in the about screen of oekaki2
  5411. 2016-01-12 01:36:26     n-tech  Nice
  5412. 2016-01-12 01:36:38     n-tech  Odili was talking about wanting to repurpose my donation panel
  5413. 2016-01-12 01:36:42     n-tech  I forwarded this to Ron
  5414. 2016-01-12 01:36:47     n-tech  I want him to stay interested in his idea
  5415. 2016-01-12 01:36:57     n-tech  If he wants to pay me like $2000 to work part time on his patreon competitor
  5416. 2016-01-12 01:37:02     n-tech  that'd replace funding for Next
  5417. 2016-01-12 01:37:11     n-tech  I can keep doing everything and stay heavily involved in interseting work
  5418. 2016-01-12 01:37:14     n-tech  even if it's not entirely self-serving
  5419. 2016-01-12 01:37:58     n-tech  I'm glad I saved to studiously, now that I'm in a rough spot I can live off what I saved for a while
  5420. 2016-01-12 01:38:04     n-tech  I just need to coast for long enough to see everything through
  5421. 2016-01-12 01:38:30     copypaste       i think ron's patreon competitor can work, due to the abstraction
  5422. 2016-01-12 01:38:38     copypaste       i told him as much
  5423. 2016-01-12 01:38:47     n-tech  It can work because it respects the users
  5424. 2016-01-12 01:38:48     copypaste       it's an interesting idea, apparently common in japan but untested in the west
  5425. 2016-01-12 01:38:49     n-tech  all of them
  5426. 2016-01-12 01:39:09     copypaste       it can work because it respects the most important party, that is, the payment processor
  5427. 2016-01-12 01:39:12     copypaste       you mean
  5428. 2016-01-12 01:39:13     copypaste       ( ´・‿-)
  5429. 2016-01-12 01:39:29     n-tech  well the payment processor is going to be some fucking weird japanese thing isn't it
  5430. 2016-01-12 01:39:35     copypaste       doubtful
  5431. 2016-01-12 01:39:38     copypaste       they use shopify
  5432. 2016-01-12 01:39:40     n-tech  ahh
  5433. 2016-01-12 01:39:46     copypaste       for 2ch ronin store
  5434. 2016-01-12 01:39:49     copypaste       and now for softserve store
  5435. 2016-01-12 01:39:57     n-tech  yeah stripe can suck a chode
  5436. 2016-01-12 01:40:00     n-tech  no wonder why patreon sucks
  5437. 2016-01-12 01:40:06     n-tech  they're probably doing shit unwillingly because they're cucked
  5438. 2016-01-12 01:40:11     n-tech  they get a risk@stripe.com email saying
  5439. 2016-01-12 01:40:19     n-tech  "this 8chan page is problematic as heck! remove it"
  5440. 2016-01-12 01:40:20     copypaste       `risk' lol
  5441. 2016-01-12 01:40:23     n-tech  and they're like 'ahhh yessira'
  5442. 2016-01-12 01:40:29     copypaste       is it really called that
  5443. 2016-01-12 01:40:33     copypaste       `risk'
  5444. 2016-01-12 01:40:36     copypaste       it does not get more corporate
  5445. 2016-01-12 01:40:42     n-tech  all of these teams are called risk management
  5446. 2016-01-12 01:40:45     n-tech  i'll find the exact url
  5447. 2016-01-12 01:42:27     n-tech  nah it's support@stripe.com
  5448. 2016-01-12 01:42:36     n-tech  I'm afraid that I'm going to have to reach out with some bad news.
  5449. 2016-01-12 01:42:36     n-tech  While we hate to give you anything less than a great experience, it
  5450. 2016-01-12 01:42:36     n-tech  does seem that your business is in violation of our Terms of Service,
  5451. 2016-01-12 01:42:36     n-tech  section B.5 ("Prohibited Businesses"). You can learn more here:
  5452. 2016-01-12 01:42:36     n-tech  https://stripe.com/terms#prohibited-businesses [1].
  5453. 2016-01-12 01:42:44     n-tech  My favorite part of this was that they cited the wrong section in their book
  5454. 2016-01-12 01:42:49     n-tech  b.5 was not prohibited businesses
  5455. 2016-01-12 01:42:53     n-tech  they just make shit up and do whatever
  5456. 2016-01-12 01:42:59     n-tech  oh this looks scary what is this web 1.0 shit
  5457. 2016-01-12 01:43:01     n-tech  get this out of here
  5458. 2016-01-12 01:43:08     n-tech  this isn't good for our corporate culture
  5459. 2016-01-12 01:45:20     copypaste       https://8ch.net/tech/src/1452485683471.jpeg
  5460. 2016-01-12 01:47:16     n-tech  lol
  5461. 2016-01-12 01:47:24     n-tech  I was thinking today how completely unextraordinary I am
  5462. 2016-01-12 01:47:27     n-tech  i was installing libc6
  5463. 2016-01-12 01:47:32     n-tech  like my libc6 was invalid for varnish 4.0
  5464. 2016-01-12 01:47:36     n-tech  so i had to learn about this package
  5465. 2016-01-12 01:47:45     n-tech  and it occured to me that I am installing like
  5466. 2016-01-12 01:47:47     copypaste       wait, you had to learn about libc?
  5467. 2016-01-12 01:47:54     copypaste       it's one of the most important parts of a linux system
  5468. 2016-01-12 01:47:57     copypaste       there's glibc
  5469. 2016-01-12 01:47:59     copypaste       and a few others
  5470. 2016-01-12 01:48:05     n-tech  millions of lines of code by dozens of engineers in seconds
  5471. 2016-01-12 01:48:06     n-tech  ye
  5472. 2016-01-12 01:48:08     n-tech  only what it was
  5473. 2016-01-12 01:48:11     n-tech  i had never heard of it before
  5474. 2016-01-12 01:48:15     n-tech  mine was the wrong version
  5475. 2016-01-12 01:48:16     copypaste       lol
  5476. 2016-01-12 01:48:18     copypaste       don't write that on 8chan
  5477. 2016-01-12 01:48:19     n-tech  i tried to remove it to reinstall it again
  5478. 2016-01-12 01:48:22     n-tech  and i got the weirdest message
  5479. 2016-01-12 01:48:26     n-tech  it was like
  5480. 2016-01-12 01:48:34     n-tech  "You are about to do something stupid. Please write 'Yes, do as I say!' to confirm."
  5481. 2016-01-12 01:49:07     copypaste       the system can't do anything without glibc, pretty much
  5482. 2016-01-12 01:49:29     copypaste       of course, maybe some programs have it statically linked, so maybe they'll keep working
  5483. 2016-01-12 01:49:40     copypaste       but linux doesn't static link glibc...usually...i think
  5484. 2016-01-12 01:50:02     n-tech  btw
  5485. 2016-01-12 01:50:11     n-tech  that /pol/ maymay about rape is taking off
  5486. 2016-01-12 01:50:14     copypaste       so how'd you end up replacing it?
  5487. 2016-01-12 01:50:21     copypaste       i think all you have to do is install the new one over it
  5488. 2016-01-12 01:50:28     n-tech  i did exactly that
  5489. 2016-01-12 01:50:33     copypaste       but you can't remove glibc first
  5490. 2016-01-12 01:50:33     n-tech  i got to experience package hell
  5491. 2016-01-12 01:50:34     copypaste       then install
  5492. 2016-01-12 01:50:38     copypaste       because `apt` won't work anymore
  5493. 2016-01-12 01:50:39     n-tech  I like
  5494. 2016-01-12 01:50:40     copypaste       hehe
  5495. 2016-01-12 01:50:44     n-tech  I downloaded it independently
  5496. 2016-01-12 01:50:47     n-tech  and did dpkg i think
  5497. 2016-01-12 01:50:53     copypaste       yeah that'd do it
  5498. 2016-01-12 01:50:54     n-tech  and then I figured out I was installing packages from Jessie on Wheezy
  5499. 2016-01-12 01:50:57     n-tech  and got to undo all of it
  5500. 2016-01-12 01:51:00     n-tech  and just do apt get anyways
  5501. 2016-01-12 01:51:01     n-tech  it was fun
  5502. 2016-01-12 01:51:07     copypaste       ive never had to replace glibc
  5503. 2016-01-12 01:51:13     copypaste       but i'm not surprised you had to to install varnish
  5504. 2016-01-12 01:51:19     copypaste       varnish is super cutting edge, written by a freebsd developer
  5505. 2016-01-12 01:51:22     n-tech  naah I was just an idiot
  5506. 2016-01-12 01:51:23     copypaste       that dude probably has commits in libc
  5507. 2016-01-12 01:51:27     n-tech  or rather their guides lied to me
  5508. 2016-01-12 01:51:35     n-tech  I added a deb src that was for jessie and i was using wheezy
  5509. 2016-01-12 01:51:39     n-tech  so it required libs that were for jessie
  5510. 2016-01-12 01:51:41     n-tech  versions for them
  5511. 2016-01-12 01:51:41     copypaste       oh, i see
  5512. 2016-01-12 01:51:45     copypaste       lol
  5513. 2016-01-12 01:51:46     copypaste       np
  5514. 2016-01-12 01:51:50     n-tech  i installed them and then I had to uninstall them
  5515. 2016-01-12 01:51:52     n-tech  was ebin
  5516. 2016-01-12 01:52:03     copypaste       luckily you never ended up with -no- libc
  5517. 2016-01-12 01:52:10     n-tech  ye I was careful about that
  5518. 2016-01-12 01:52:19     n-tech  because I knew I'd have to reformat and reinstall on 256k
  5519. 2016-01-12 01:52:43     n-tech  got it setup, got it working, got it working on infdev
  5520. 2016-01-12 01:52:47     n-tech  so now I can start doing all the grunt work
  5521. 2016-01-12 01:52:57     copypaste       i guess if you've never installed gentoo, and never written any C programs
  5522. 2016-01-12 01:53:03     copypaste       not knowing about glibc isn't so unbelievalbe
  5523. 2016-01-12 01:53:19     n-tech  I never touched any Linux systems until I was 19 I think
  5524. 2016-01-12 01:53:33     n-tech  I was developing on WAMP even when we had Debian on my work server
  5525. 2016-01-12 01:53:38     n-tech  eventually we kept encountering like
  5526. 2016-01-12 01:53:43     n-tech  windows and mac specific PHP problems
  5527. 2016-01-12 01:53:51     n-tech  so we all replicated the production server
  5528. 2016-01-12 01:53:56     n-tech  actually it was CentOS not Debian
  5529. 2016-01-12 01:54:40     n-tech  I learned how to develop on my own using my mom's Windows XP computer, I didn't have any of those experiences a lot of developers have
  5530. 2016-01-12 01:54:47     copypaste       i probably learned what glibc was when i was 15 or so, but again i don't even remember
  5531. 2016-01-12 01:54:53     n-tech  where like, a programming Obi Wan showed them the ways of the GNU/Linux
  5532. 2016-01-12 01:54:54     copypaste       could have been later or earlier
  5533. 2016-01-12 01:55:09     copypaste       well, my experience was weird
  5534. 2016-01-12 01:55:10     n-tech  I wrote TorqueScript was a primary language for many years lol
  5535. 2016-01-12 01:55:12     copypaste       "windows alternatives"
  5536. 2016-01-12 01:55:14     copypaste       google search
  5537. 2016-01-12 01:55:15     copypaste       lol
  5538. 2016-01-12 01:55:17     n-tech  ye you told me lol
  5539. 2016-01-12 01:55:20     n-tech  you fucked up and just dealt with it
  5540. 2016-01-12 01:55:32     copypaste       well my family was poor and i wasn't about to anger my dad over this
  5541. 2016-01-12 01:55:39     copypaste       he'd view it as "i broke the computer you bought me"
  5542. 2016-01-12 01:55:42     copypaste       and get super pissed
  5543. 2016-01-12 01:55:47     n-tech  well i imagine you're pretty good about dealing the cards god gives you anyways
  5544. 2016-01-12 01:55:51     copypaste       lel
  5545. 2016-01-12 01:56:12     copypaste       windows 10 isn't so bad with cygwin and xorg
  5546. 2016-01-12 01:56:16     copypaste       i kind of even like it
  5547. 2016-01-12 01:56:22     copypaste       i probably own't install ganoo on the surface
  5548. 2016-01-12 01:56:34     copypaste       watch, in a month or so it will do something to irredeemably piss me off
  5549. 2016-01-12 01:56:38     copypaste       and i'll try to figure out how
  5550. 2016-01-12 01:56:41     copypaste       but for now i'm ok with it
  5551. 2016-01-12 01:56:42     copypaste       lol
  5552. 2016-01-12 01:56:43     n-tech  I'm not going to lie, I really liked FreeBSD
  5553. 2016-01-12 01:56:49     n-tech  a thing that pisses me off about Linux is how like
  5554. 2016-01-12 01:56:51     copypaste       why can't we go back to freebsd
  5555. 2016-01-12 01:56:54     n-tech  you have all this stray shit just fucking everywhere
  5556. 2016-01-12 01:56:58     copypaste       we proved linux wasn't the solution
  5557. 2016-01-12 01:56:58     n-tech  freeBSD was .. tidy
  5558. 2016-01-12 01:56:59     copypaste       btw
  5559. 2016-01-12 01:57:00     n-tech  very organized
  5560. 2016-01-12 01:57:12     copypaste       i can easily get them to reimage that machine
  5561. 2016-01-12 01:57:13     n-tech  yea, we can go back to FreeBSD assuming there is a varnish 4.0 build for it
  5562. 2016-01-12 01:57:16     n-tech  _ALTERNATIVELY_
  5563. 2016-01-12 01:57:16     copypaste       there is
  5564. 2016-01-12 01:57:18     copypaste       troi09 uses it
  5565. 2016-01-12 01:57:19     n-tech  we can go full debfag
  5566. 2016-01-12 01:57:27     copypaste       erm
  5567. 2016-01-12 01:57:28     n-tech  and reformat the postgres server and use HHVM with MariaDB
  5568. 2016-01-12 01:57:30     n-tech  there's 3 configs here
  5569. 2016-01-12 01:57:43     copypaste       i think keeping postgres is better
  5570. 2016-01-12 01:57:47     copypaste       we spent so much time on making it work
  5571. 2016-01-12 01:57:50     n-tech  yea
  5572. 2016-01-12 01:57:53     copypaste       we have an engineer who is hired by 2ch
  5573. 2016-01-12 01:58:00     n-tech  who's a lead dev on both
  5574. 2016-01-12 01:58:03     copypaste       that's another reason i think sticking back to freesd is good
  5575. 2016-01-12 01:58:04     copypaste       yee
  5576. 2016-01-12 01:58:11     copypaste       what i was going to do is have troi09 be the next varnish btw.
  5577. 2016-01-12 01:58:16     n-tech  I actually would feel really bad just ditching his work
  5578. 2016-01-12 01:58:16     copypaste       troi09n is already the live varnish
  5579. 2016-01-12 01:58:20     copypaste       easy to switch over
  5580. 2016-01-12 01:58:20     n-tech  especially because I do like it
  5581. 2016-01-12 01:58:21     n-tech  lol
  5582. 2016-01-12 01:58:32     copypaste       troi09 is freebsd with varnish4
  5583. 2016-01-12 01:58:33     n-tech  I think if I reformat
  5584. 2016-01-12 01:58:37     n-tech  I'm just going to use dragonfly or whatever
  5585. 2016-01-12 01:58:43     copypaste       lol
  5586. 2016-01-12 01:58:48     copypaste       careful not to go full zealot
  5587. 2016-01-12 01:58:51     copypaste       time and a place for everything
  5588. 2016-01-12 01:58:54     copypaste       freebsd belongs on the server
  5589. 2016-01-12 01:58:58     copypaste       i wouldn't install it on any of my desktops
  5590. 2016-01-12 01:59:13     copypaste       linux has way more drivers
  5591. 2016-01-12 01:59:17     copypaste       for example, you have a gamer graphics card
  5592. 2016-01-12 01:59:19     copypaste       i think it's nvidia
  5593. 2016-01-12 01:59:21     copypaste       and optimus
  5594. 2016-01-12 01:59:23     copypaste       in your laptop
  5595. 2016-01-12 01:59:25     n-tech  ah
  5596. 2016-01-12 01:59:26     n-tech  yeah
  5597. 2016-01-12 01:59:29     copypaste       freebsd has absolutely no support for that
  5598. 2016-01-12 01:59:29     copypaste       none
  5599. 2016-01-12 01:59:47     n-tech  For the next migration, I think I'm going to not import attachments
  5600. 2016-01-12 01:59:49     n-tech  except on a whitelist.
  5601. 2016-01-12 02:00:01     copypaste       good plan
  5602. 2016-01-12 02:00:05     copypaste       in that case let's set up a new RAID
  5603. 2016-01-12 02:00:08     copypaste       there's a free one on troi11
  5604. 2016-01-12 02:00:11     copypaste       let's abandon troi06
  5605. 2016-01-12 02:00:42     n-tech  What is T6 used for other than 8ch media?
  5606. 2016-01-12 02:00:45     copypaste       nothing
  5607. 2016-01-12 02:00:51     copypaste       that's its only job
  5608. 2016-01-12 02:00:59     n-tech  interesting
  5609. 2016-01-12 02:01:01     copypaste       it used to do other stuff but as the media became slower and slower i moved everything else away
  5610. 2016-01-12 02:01:08     copypaste       i've wanted to decommission it for months
  5611. 2016-01-12 02:01:19     n-tech  Is the hardware also outdated?
  5612. 2016-01-12 02:01:25     copypaste       same as the other servers
  5613. 2016-01-12 02:01:29     n-tech  interdasting
  5614. 2016-01-12 02:01:30     copypaste       2011 wasn't that long ago you know
  5615. 2016-01-12 02:01:39     n-tech  pfff in 2011
  5616. 2016-01-12 02:01:42     n-tech  I was 19
  5617. 2016-01-12 02:01:53     copypaste       haha yeah my first PC i built had sandy bridge i5
  5618. 2016-01-12 02:01:53     n-tech  I was in Florida living with 7 people and a feral cat in a double wide
  5619. 2016-01-12 02:01:56     copypaste       i remember
  5620. 2016-01-12 02:02:08     copypaste       double wide, lucky
  5621. 2016-01-12 02:02:11     n-tech  :---DD
  5622. 2016-01-12 02:02:17     n-tech  i had flea bites, their sofa had fleas
  5623. 2016-01-12 02:02:22     n-tech  I could have gone home but I was having fun
  5624. 2016-01-12 02:02:41     n-tech  natural born couch surfer
  5625. 2016-01-12 02:03:20     copypaste       lol
  5626. 2016-01-12 02:03:34     n-tech  I'm curious about what we can do with t11 now
  5627. 2016-01-12 02:03:43     copypaste       not much. t11 is 8archive
  5628. 2016-01-12 02:03:47     n-tech  ahhhhhhh.
  5629. 2016-01-12 02:03:48     copypaste       i have to get odili approval to even touch it
  5630. 2016-01-12 02:03:56     n-tech  is.. is there even hope for 8archive?
  5631. 2016-01-12 02:03:59     copypaste       pff
  5632. 2016-01-12 02:04:09     copypaste       dryboner thinks so, but he's a derp
  5633. 2016-01-12 02:04:13     copypaste       i regret the 1BTC i sent him
  5634. 2016-01-12 02:04:15     n-tech  drybones got indignant with me and was like
  5635. 2016-01-12 02:04:16     copypaste       complete waste
  5636. 2016-01-12 02:04:30     n-tech  "who the fuck are you i am the extremely prolific lead developer of sapphire group and i run all these services"
  5637. 2016-01-12 02:04:34     n-tech  and i wanted to get really snippy
  5638. 2016-01-12 02:04:35     copypaste       no
  5639. 2016-01-12 02:04:37     copypaste       odili is the lead
  5640. 2016-01-12 02:04:38     n-tech  like nigga what have you ever done
  5641. 2016-01-12 02:04:39     copypaste       he's nothing
  5642. 2016-01-12 02:04:44     n-tech  like "done"
  5643. 2016-01-12 02:04:45     n-tech  completed
  5644. 2016-01-12 02:04:48     n-tech  actually saw through
  5645. 2016-01-12 02:04:49     copypaste       gg wiki
  5646. 2016-01-12 02:04:51     copypaste       mediawiki site
  5647. 2016-01-12 02:04:53     copypaste       which he closed
  5648. 2016-01-12 02:04:55     copypaste       gamergate.me
  5649. 2016-01-12 02:04:55     n-tech  lol
  5650. 2016-01-12 02:04:57     copypaste       wordpress site
  5651. 2016-01-12 02:04:59     copypaste       which he closed
  5652. 2016-01-12 02:05:02     copypaste       vidya.fm
  5653. 2016-01-12 02:05:12     copypaste       some kind of music something?
  5654. 2016-01-12 02:05:20     n-tech  People still say I don't complete anything because lolcow.wiki is still stagnant ; ;
  5655. 2016-01-12 02:05:22     copypaste       hacked together as fuck
  5656. 2016-01-12 02:05:23     n-tech  I feel bad about it still
  5657. 2016-01-12 02:05:29     n-tech  I haven't given up on it, it gets a few edits a day
  5658. 2016-01-12 02:05:31     copypaste       you haven't been focused on it
  5659. 2016-01-12 02:05:33     n-tech  but it's closed to public edits
  5660. 2016-01-12 02:05:54     n-tech  https://lolcow.wiki/wiki/Special:RecentChanges
  5661. 2016-01-12 02:05:59     n-tech  more fucking active than ohinternet
  5662. 2016-01-12 02:06:02     copypaste       i would submit an article to it about Mircea Popescu, but the thing is Popescu is more genius than lolcow, but he has some very weird tendencies
  5663. 2016-01-12 02:06:12     copypaste       i read his site almost religiously, trilema.com
  5664. 2016-01-12 02:06:20     copypaste       i know basically everything about him
  5665. 2016-01-12 02:06:41     copypaste       he believes that a channel on freenode is the only thing that will survive the bitcoin revolution
  5666. 2016-01-12 02:06:45     n-tech  "Two years ago about this season I used a set of synthetic devices to crush the toys of a bunch of people clueless enough to remain unaware of their own irrelevance in the Bitcoin space."
  5667. 2016-01-12 02:06:47     copypaste       and its logs of course
  5668. 2016-01-12 02:06:50     n-tech  wat
  5669. 2016-01-12 02:06:58     copypaste       he runs a site called mpex.co
  5670. 2016-01-12 02:07:01     n-tech  that's the very first sentence on his site
  5671. 2016-01-12 02:07:03     copypaste       yes
  5672. 2016-01-12 02:07:05     copypaste       that's right
  5673. 2016-01-12 02:07:26     copypaste       in the world of Popescu, everything is irrelevant to Bitcoin -unless-
  5674. 2016-01-12 02:07:29     n-tech  there's a naked fat girl in the header
  5675. 2016-01-12 02:07:32     copypaste       it goes through #bitcoin-assets on freenode and him
  5676. 2016-01-12 02:07:36     copypaste       so coinbase
  5677. 2016-01-12 02:07:37     copypaste       and so on
  5678. 2016-01-12 02:07:39     copypaste       all irrelevant
  5679. 2016-01-12 02:07:49     copypaste       only mpex.co and his projects and friends are relevant
  5680. 2016-01-12 02:08:01     copypaste       and he writes multitudes of articles laughing at bitcoin businesses whenever they fail
  5681. 2016-01-12 02:08:09     copypaste       and he blames their failure on their not being involved in his irc channel
  5682. 2016-01-12 02:08:10     copypaste       basically
  5683. 2016-01-12 02:08:26     copypaste       he also declares that Bitcoin is a sovereign nation
  5684. 2016-01-12 02:08:30     n-tech  I cannot interpret this site at all
  5685. 2016-01-12 02:08:34     copypaste       (with him as like, a leader)
  5686. 2016-01-12 02:08:36     n-tech  What is it trying to tell me?
  5687. 2016-01-12 02:08:40     copypaste       trilema?
  5688. 2016-01-12 02:08:43     copypaste       trilema is popescu's blog
  5689. 2016-01-12 02:08:43     n-tech  mpex.co
  5690. 2016-01-12 02:08:46     copypaste       oh!
  5691. 2016-01-12 02:08:46     n-tech  what do these numbers
  5692. 2016-01-12 02:08:50     copypaste       mpex.co is a bitcoin securities exchange
  5693. 2016-01-12 02:08:53     copypaste       like NYSE
  5694. 2016-01-12 02:08:55     copypaste       except...not.
  5695. 2016-01-12 02:09:00     copypaste       it has only a few stocks, all companies Popescu owns
  5696. 2016-01-12 02:09:03     n-tech  Dear Lord, what is this ?
  5697. 2016-01-12 02:09:03     n-tech  Yes, this is dog.
  5698. 2016-01-12 02:09:11     n-tech  i am ever more confused with each passing moment
  5699. 2016-01-12 02:09:13     copypaste       oh and also if you want an account
  5700. 2016-01-12 02:09:14     copypaste       it costs 50BTC
  5701. 2016-01-12 02:09:17     copypaste       ($25k)
  5702. 2016-01-12 02:09:23     copypaste       it used to cost 30BTC
  5703. 2016-01-12 02:09:26     copypaste       but he rose the price
  5704. 2016-01-12 02:10:04     copypaste       S.MPOE = Mircea Popescu Options Emporium, mpex.co itself
  5705. 2016-01-12 02:10:08     copypaste       S.BBET = bitbet.us
  5706. 2016-01-12 02:10:13     copypaste       S.MG = minigame, eulora
  5707. 2016-01-12 02:10:28     copypaste       S.NSA = NoSuchLabs, i have not a clue what this is but it has something to do with trying to crack different crypto
  5708. 2016-01-12 02:10:43     copypaste       S.QNTR = qntra.net, one of my favorite sites, it's basically a Popescu approved blog which says his version of the world
  5709. 2016-01-12 02:10:48     copypaste       it's like a propaganda rag
  5710. 2016-01-12 02:10:49     n-tech  so what does this site say the USD value of a bitcoin is
  5711. 2016-01-12 02:10:56     copypaste       news piece which interprets the news in his vision
  5712. 2016-01-12 02:10:57     n-tech  does he not recognize the usd or something
  5713. 2016-01-12 02:11:06     copypaste       yes that's right
  5714. 2016-01-12 02:11:23     copypaste       for popescu, the US government is as relevant as a tube of toothpaste
  5715. 2016-01-12 02:11:25     copypaste       (direct quote)
  5716. 2016-01-12 02:11:48     copypaste       mpex.co is illegal according to most countries
  5717. 2016-01-12 02:11:54     copypaste       it's an unregistered exchange
  5718. 2016-01-12 02:11:59     copypaste       the SEC send him a letter about it
  5719. 2016-01-12 02:12:07     copypaste       and he demanded that the SEC representive join his IRC channel
  5720. 2016-01-12 02:12:18     copypaste       and join his web of trust
  5721. 2016-01-12 02:12:28     copypaste       AND recognize bitcion as a sovereign nation
  5722. 2016-01-12 02:12:32     copypaste       otherwise he wouldn't talk to them
  5723. 2016-01-12 02:12:41     copypaste       since he's romanian and small time they didn't pursue it
  5724. 2016-01-12 02:12:42     copypaste       lol
  5725. 2016-01-12 02:13:06     copypaste       but here's my favorite fact about Mircea Popescu
  5726. 2016-01-12 02:13:13     copypaste       he owns 40,000 BTC at the lowest estimate
  5727. 2016-01-12 02:13:28     copypaste       he is one of the wealthiest people in the world in terms of verified Bitcoin holdings
  5728. 2016-01-12 02:13:52     copypaste       (how much that translates into real world wealth and power, well --)_
  5729. 2016-01-12 02:14:04     n-tech  17,950,400.00
  5730. 2016-01-12 02:14:14     copypaste       yes/
  5731. 2016-01-12 02:14:14     copypaste       ?
  5732. 2016-01-12 02:14:29     n-tech  maybe that's why the btc goes so high
  5733. 2016-01-12 02:14:32     n-tech  this insane person has them all
  5734. 2016-01-12 02:14:43     n-tech  he probably doesn't spend them because he sees bitcoins as citizens
  5735. 2016-01-12 02:14:46     copypaste       let me find you my favorite article on trilema
  5736. 2016-01-12 02:14:46     n-tech  and they have individual rights
  5737. 2016-01-12 02:14:53     copypaste       if this doesn't convert you you just won't get it, hold on
  5738. 2016-01-12 02:15:03     copypaste       this one absolutely sums up popescu's mentality
  5739. 2016-01-12 02:16:28     copypaste       http://trilema.com/2014/today-is-the-international-day-of-remembering-how-mircea-popescu-is-better-than-me-and-related-observances/
  5740. 2016-01-12 02:16:45     copypaste       Today is the day where you look up from the mud you rightfully inhabit, and gaze upon the stars. Today is the day you look up from your inferior position, to me. Today is the day you gaze upon your betters, upon those magnificent, excellent human beings whose mere existence is a miracle you should give thanks for with every breath and every heartbeat. Those people who aren't merely better than
  5741. 2016-01-12 02:16:45     copypaste       you, those people who are in fact a blessing through their mere presence, embalming the air you perhaps also breathe, if you're lucky, with pure splendor. The sources of grace in this world, and of anything good and everything worth living for. Me.
  5742. 2016-01-12 02:16:46     copypaste       Not your children, not your wife, not your parents, not your boss whoever that may be. Mircea Popescu.
  5743. 2016-01-12 02:17:30     copypaste       i personally believe mircea popescu owns well over 100k bitcoins, perhaps even 500k or 1M
  5744. 2016-01-12 02:18:10     copypaste       the insanity doesn't stop here though. mircea popescu also invented his own calendar based on the day bitcoin's first block was mined
  5745. 2016-01-12 02:18:15     copypaste       it's called the "Trilema Calendar"
  5746. 2016-01-12 02:18:20     copypaste       we are currently in year 8
  5747. 2016-01-12 02:18:25     copypaste       in case you were curious
  5748. 2016-01-12 02:18:34     copypaste       that article was written in year 6
  5749. 2016-01-12 02:18:38     copypaste       he hacked it into wordpress, even
  5750. 2016-01-12 02:18:42     copypaste       Friday, 26 September, Year 6 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
  5751. 2016-01-12 02:18:50     n-tech  lol
  5752. 2016-01-12 02:18:52     copypaste       "Year 6 de Trilema"
  5753. 2016-01-12 02:19:03     n-tech  if i ever get 50 bitcoins i'll buy in
  5754. 2016-01-12 02:19:30     copypaste       >wasting 50btc on inflating popescu's already enormous btc stash
  5755. 2016-01-12 02:19:31     copypaste       dude, why
  5756. 2016-01-12 02:19:47     n-tech  well like
  5757. 2016-01-12 02:19:49     copypaste       and yet people do it.
  5758. 2016-01-12 02:19:53     n-tech  if i have enough money where 50btc is nothing
  5759. 2016-01-12 02:19:56     n-tech  then why not
  5760. 2016-01-12 02:20:01     copypaste       lol
  5761. 2016-01-12 02:20:10     n-tech  btw the Wikileaks twitter feed is my fucking favorite thing
  5762. 2016-01-12 02:20:10     n-tech  https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/686448550591492096
  5763. 2016-01-12 02:20:17     n-tech  like holy shit this guy's an asshole
  5764. 2016-01-12 02:20:18     n-tech  I love it
  5765. 2016-01-12 02:20:21     copypaste       lol
  5766. 2016-01-12 02:20:24     n-tech  look at how angry the replies are
  5767. 2016-01-12 02:20:53     copypaste       nice
  5768. 2016-01-12 02:21:00     copypaste       did you read that trilema article
  5769. 2016-01-12 02:21:06     copypaste       i guess you like schizos more than narcissists
  5770. 2016-01-12 02:21:09     n-tech  yes
  5771. 2016-01-12 02:21:22     n-tech  This guy is definitely schizophrenic too
  5772. 2016-01-12 02:21:44     n-tech  but i also have difficulty considering people who are wealthy lolcows
  5773. 2016-01-12 02:21:53     n-tech  like he's saying all this but for 17 million dollars i'd probably admit all of it is true
  5774. 2016-01-12 02:21:54     copypaste       but popescu fell into it by accident
  5775. 2016-01-12 02:21:57     copypaste       he was an early 2011 miner
  5776. 2016-01-12 02:22:07     copypaste       and then he built mpex
  5777. 2016-01-12 02:22:12     copypaste       he was nobody before that
  5778. 2016-01-12 02:22:33     copypaste       and since he's so insanely committed to his weird beliefs about government, if you met him irl you wouldn't know it
  5779. 2016-01-12 02:22:36     copypaste       the dude lives in argentina
  5780. 2016-01-12 02:22:45     n-tech  but like, contrary to this guy
  5781. 2016-01-12 02:22:46     n-tech  https://kiwifar.ms/threads/martin-shkreli-former-pharma-exec-criminal-mad-as-fuck-on-reddit-and-twitter.16329/
  5782. 2016-01-12 02:22:51     n-tech  I do consider him a lolcow
  5783. 2016-01-12 02:22:58     n-tech  he basically went out of his way to piss of the entire world
  5784. 2016-01-12 02:23:07     copypaste       MP recently threatened a Bitcoin Core developer
  5785. 2016-01-12 02:23:08     copypaste       with death
  5786. 2016-01-12 02:23:12     copypaste       he put a hit out for him on trilema
  5787. 2016-01-12 02:23:18     copypaste       i think he's getting nuttier as time goes on
  5788. 2016-01-12 02:23:31     n-tech  you need to keep tabs on these people so you can write news articles for me
  5789. 2016-01-12 02:23:51     copypaste       you see another thing about MP is he follows the bitcoin dev team very carefully
  5790. 2016-01-12 02:24:07     copypaste       and he thinks that they're conspiring to destroy it by changing it
  5791. 2016-01-12 02:24:18     copypaste       he thinks that any change to the network is ruining bitcoin and bitcoin is alreday perfect
  5792. 2016-01-12 02:24:25     copypaste       and needs no changes ever except removing "cruft"
  5793. 2016-01-12 02:24:29     copypaste       like the GUI, SSL, and DNS
  5794. 2016-01-12 02:24:44     copypaste       i'm not making any of this up, see https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/686
  5795. 2016-01-12 02:24:47     copypaste       oops
  5796. 2016-01-12 02:24:49     copypaste       wrong paste
  5797. 2016-01-12 02:24:52     copypaste       http://thebitcoin.foundation/
  5798. 2016-01-12 02:25:03     copypaste       which is a dev group popescu funds
  5799. 2016-01-12 02:25:07     copypaste       to decruft bitcoin
  5800. 2016-01-12 02:25:11     copypaste       version 0.5.3
  5801. 2016-01-12 02:25:43     copypaste       Should you use this software for any purpose, or copy and distribute it to anyone or in any manner, you are breaking the laws of whatever soi-disant jurisdiction, and you promise to continue doing so for the indefinite future. In any case, please always : read and understand any software ; verify any PGP signatures that you use - for any purpose.
  5802. 2016-01-12 02:25:49     copypaste       i just, i laugh every time i read his shit
  5803. 2016-01-12 02:25:57     copypaste       it's so pseudo intellectual and narcissistic and crazy
  5804. 2016-01-12 02:26:06     copypaste       and that is why i read everything on trilema on qntra
  5805. 2016-01-12 02:26:16     copypaste       (except his writings in romanian, which i sadly can't read)
  5806. 2016-01-12 02:26:29     copypaste       (i bet they're even more over the top since that's his native langauge and he can get away with more)
  5807. 2016-01-12 02:27:26     copypaste       http://trilema.com/2015/theres-a-one-bitcoin-reward-for-the-death-of-pieter-wuille-details-below/
  5808. 2016-01-12 02:27:32     copypaste       there's the death threat btw. lol
  5809. 2016-01-12 02:28:00     n-tech  >2015
  5810. 2016-01-12 02:28:02     n-tech  heresy
  5811. 2016-01-12 02:28:10     copypaste       yeah i know
  5812. 2016-01-12 02:28:15     copypaste       i'm incognito in #b-a
  5813. 2016-01-12 02:28:20     copypaste       i'm in their WoT so i can talk
  5814. 2016-01-12 02:28:23     copypaste       i ask him things sometimes
  5815. 2016-01-12 02:28:25     copypaste       like about the URLs
  5816. 2016-01-12 02:28:31     copypaste       i like making him get flustered
  5817. 2016-01-12 02:28:37     copypaste       since i've read basically everything he's ever written
  5818. 2016-01-12 02:28:41     copypaste       and i can pose good questions
  5819. 2016-01-12 02:29:20     n-tech  so did he celebrate new year's day for year 8 or whatever
  5820. 2016-01-12 02:29:29     n-tech  or is the calendar end at like his birhday
  5821. 2016-01-12 02:29:41     copypaste       the calendar starts at the birthday of bitcoin
  5822. 2016-01-12 02:29:43     copypaste       january 3, 2009
  5823. 2016-01-12 02:29:47     copypaste       the genesis block
  5824. 2016-01-12 02:29:57     copypaste       so every new year starts on jan 3
  5825. 2016-01-12 02:30:17     n-tech  beautiful
  5826. 2016-01-12 02:30:45     copypaste       You are now confronted with the unhappy choice between making this "go viral" or whatever you call blathering endlessly about shit you can't affect on "social media" ; or else tacitly admitting that I have the right to issue death warrants, something you don't otherwise admit for anyone else. What's all that precious "public choice" theory have to say on the topic ? [↩]
  5827. 2016-01-12 02:30:57     copypaste       lol
  5828. 2016-01-12 02:31:00     copypaste       this sentence, it just
  5829. 2016-01-12 02:31:11     copypaste       i know that popescu is dense, but how you don't see him as a lolcow
  5830. 2016-01-12 02:31:16     copypaste       at least a very strange one
  5831. 2016-01-12 02:31:18     copypaste       is beyond me
  5832. 2016-01-12 02:31:27     copypaste       like most lolcows popescu also has sagas
  5833. 2016-01-12 02:31:37     copypaste       and periods where he's very quiet
  5834. 2016-01-12 02:31:59     copypaste       thanks to his calendar it's easy to put the sagas into his own years
  5835. 2016-01-12 02:32:34     copypaste       year 7 was marked by him getting pissed off at bitcoin core devs over the slightest of things, for instance
  5836. 2016-01-12 02:32:41     copypaste       in around year 5 he moved to argentina
  5837. 2016-01-12 02:32:43     copypaste       and so on
  5838. 2016-01-12 02:32:52     copypaste       (or maybe that was year 4)
  5839. 2016-01-12 02:32:54     n-tech  should be documenting all this lol
  5840. 2016-01-12 02:33:26     copypaste       in year 6 mtgox and GLBSE collapsed, which led to his ego inflating to biblical proportions
  5841. 2016-01-12 02:33:41     copypaste       since on trilema he predicted both of them collapsing (remember that he predicts the collapse of every BTC business not his)
  5842. 2016-01-12 02:33:59     copypaste       and consequently that led to the "Today is the International Day of Remembering How Mircea Popescu Is Better Than Me and related observances"
  5843. 2016-01-12 02:34:00     copypaste       post
  5844. 2016-01-12 02:34:06     copypaste       which is by far the MP masterpiece
  5845. 2016-01-12 02:34:09     copypaste       on par with julay
  5846. 2016-01-12 02:34:17     n-tech  lol
  5847. 2016-01-12 02:34:20     n-tech  well julay was like
  5848. 2016-01-12 02:34:22     n-tech  embarassing
  5849. 2016-01-12 02:34:26     n-tech  he's not embarassed
  5850. 2016-01-12 02:34:30     n-tech  it'll be more uh
  5851. 2016-01-12 02:34:31     copypaste       he should be
  5852. 2016-01-12 02:34:36     n-tech  applicable to general audiences
  5853. 2016-01-12 02:34:39     copypaste       imagine you or i writing an article like this
  5854. 2016-01-12 02:34:39     n-tech  if something happens
  5855. 2016-01-12 02:34:42     n-tech  like if his wallet gets emptied
  5856. 2016-01-12 02:35:07     copypaste       he's had a few embarassing moments, like when he set up a court in #b-a
  5857. 2016-01-12 02:35:12     copypaste       and the first thing they did was rule against him
  5858. 2016-01-12 02:35:17     copypaste       so he sperged out
  5859. 2016-01-12 02:35:21     copypaste       accused them of corruption
  5860. 2016-01-12 02:35:24     copypaste       and suspended the court indefinitely
  5861. 2016-01-12 02:35:32     n-tech  lol
  5862. 2016-01-12 02:35:34     copypaste       even though he spent weeks writing the rules and picking the jduges from his closest friends
  5863. 2016-01-12 02:36:02     n-tech  how did they rule against him
  5864. 2016-01-12 02:36:14     copypaste       MPEx is basically designed to steal people's money
  5865. 2016-01-12 02:36:24     copypaste       if you send an incorrect amount to it, even by a few satoshis
  5866. 2016-01-12 02:36:27     copypaste       it's "considered a donation"
  5867. 2016-01-12 02:36:31     copypaste       according to the FAQ
  5868. 2016-01-12 02:36:40     copypaste       anyway, that happened, before that was in the FAQ
  5869. 2016-01-12 02:36:46     copypaste       and the guy wanted his hundred bitcoins back or something
  5870. 2016-01-12 02:36:59     copypaste       and so the judges thought that was fair and ordered MP to pay
  5871. 2016-01-12 02:37:03     copypaste       MP viewed that as corruption, smoehow
  5872. 2016-01-12 02:37:07     copypaste       he has a rambling trilema article about it
  5873. 2016-01-12 02:38:00     copypaste       https://archive.is/IWxd6
  5874. 2016-01-12 02:38:51     copypaste       there's a long argument in the comments
  5875. 2016-01-12 02:39:45     copypaste       but...
  5876. 2016-01-12 02:39:45     n-tech  lol,nice
  5877. 2016-01-12 02:39:48     n-tech  compile all this
  5878. 2016-01-12 02:39:50     n-tech  i want an article
  5879. 2016-01-12 02:39:56     n-tech  it's too much to sink in at 2:30 lol
  5880. 2016-01-12 02:39:56     copypaste       i don't really care if popescu embarasses himself. for me my favorite articles are the ones like this
  5881. 2016-01-12 02:40:01     copypaste       https://archive.is/qvxgy
  5882. 2016-01-12 02:40:05     copypaste       Here's who doesn't belong in Bitcoin : you.
  5883. 2016-01-12 02:40:09     copypaste       it's just, the sheer bravado
  5884. 2016-01-12 02:40:13     copypaste       i laugh every damn time
  5885. 2016-01-12 02:40:31     n-tech  the nation of btc has a string immigration policy
  5886. 2016-01-12 02:40:34     n-tech  no pondscum allowed
  5887. 2016-01-12 02:40:37     n-tech  strict
  5888. 2016-01-12 02:41:07     copypaste       recently popescu's domain registrar threatened to take him down
  5889. 2016-01-12 02:41:14     copypaste       according to ICANN rules, murder-for-hire is against the rules
  5890. 2016-01-12 02:41:22     copypaste       he threatened to sue them recently on trilema
  5891. 2016-01-12 02:41:27     copypaste       trilema might go down, so is tarted archiving it
  5892. 2016-01-12 02:41:28     copypaste       lol
  5893. 2016-01-12 02:42:05     n-tech  yea do dude
  5894. 2016-01-12 02:42:08     copypaste       https://archive.is/ClQvv
  5895. 2016-01-12 02:42:13     n-tech  i wanna read about it but now i gotta sleep
  5896. 2016-01-12 02:42:15     n-tech  im super tired
  5897. 2016-01-12 02:42:16     copypaste       The content in question is in no way illegal. Note that the complainant is
  5898. 2016-01-12 02:42:16     copypaste       making an unsubstantiated, libelous claim. Please forward me complainant's
  5899. 2016-01-12 02:42:17     copypaste       contact details so that I can proceed legally against them.
  5900. 2016-01-12 02:42:20     copypaste       yeah sure i understand
  5901. 2016-01-12 02:42:22     copypaste       good night
  5902. 2016-01-12 02:42:28     n-tech  nite
  5903. 2016-01-12 14:47:42     n-tech  yo
  5904. 2016-01-12 14:47:46     n-tech  I can't get Varnish to work with SSL
  5905. 2016-01-12 14:47:53     n-tech  When Nginx talks to Varnish it gets a white page
  5906. 2016-01-12 14:47:58     n-tech  I'm having trouble figuring out why
  5907. 2016-01-12 14:49:38     copypaste       varnishhas no ssl
  5908. 2016-01-12 14:49:46     copypaste       nginx must provide it
  5909. 2016-01-12 14:49:51     n-tech  yeah, which I'm doing
  5910. 2016-01-12 14:49:57     n-tech  https://assets.digitalocean.com/articles/varnish/goal.png
  5911. 2016-01-12 14:50:07     n-tech  this is what I have basically but the insecure between nginx and varnish whitepages
  5912. 2016-01-12 14:50:15     n-tech  I can verify nginx is reading but the proxy_pass whitepages
  5913. 2016-01-12 14:50:21     n-tech  while regular :80 connections work fine
  5914. 2016-01-12 14:50:27     n-tech  It's baffling
  5915. 2016-01-12 14:50:40     copypaste       wat server
  5916. 2016-01-12 14:50:43     copypaste       ican look
  5917. 2016-01-12 14:50:49     n-tech  it's only local
  5918. 2016-01-12 14:50:55     n-tech  I'm trying to get it working local first
  5919. 2016-01-12 14:51:00     copypaste       k
  5920. 2016-01-12 15:16:34     n-tech  I've deduced it does go to Varnish
  5921. 2016-01-12 15:16:40     n-tech  but the only thing it increments in varnishstat is
  5922. 2016-01-12 15:16:43     n-tech  MAIN.fetch_none
  5923. 2016-01-12 15:34:53     copypaste       sorry i cannot be much help right at the moment
  5924. 2016-01-12 15:34:57     copypaste       i have 2 exterminators at my place
  5925. 2016-01-12 15:35:02     copypaste       spraying white poison
  5926. 2016-01-12 15:35:02     copypaste       lol
  5927. 2016-01-12 15:35:03     n-tech  lol
  5928. 2016-01-12 15:35:16     n-tech  it's nginx returning a blank response
  5929. 2016-01-12 15:35:17     copypaste       they found one of mochi's old pink hats
  5930. 2016-01-12 15:35:21     n-tech  now to find out if it's cuz of php or something else
  5931. 2016-01-12 15:35:23     n-tech  pink hats?
  5932. 2016-01-12 15:35:27     copypaste       full of ipis [cockroaches]
  5933. 2016-01-12 15:35:30     copypaste       like 50 in that hat
  5934. 2016-01-12 15:35:35     copypaste       that was theri home
  5935. 2016-01-12 15:36:02     n-tech  lol gross
  5936. 2016-01-12 15:36:03     n-tech  fuck that
  5937. 2016-01-12 16:44:50             [copypaste away: Not here right now. since 2016-01-12 16:44:50+0800]
  5938. 2016-01-12 17:21:40             [copypaste back: gone 00:36:49]
  5939. 2016-01-12 20:48:10     n-tech  man i can't catch a fucking break
  5940. 2016-01-12 20:48:19     n-tech  Varnish is working with static HTML but it's not working with PHP via SSL
  5941. 2016-01-12 20:48:29     n-tech  even though I can prove using writing to documents that the response happens
  5942. 2016-01-12 20:48:32     n-tech  and I get the full HTML
  5943. 2016-01-12 20:48:37     n-tech  varnish just like, throws it out?
  5944. 2016-01-12 20:48:41     n-tech  I have no clue why
  5945. 2016-01-12 20:55:22     copypaste       if you set it up in the dc or give me some way to connect i can try to fix it
  5946. 2016-01-12 20:55:37     n-tech  yeah im signing into t5 now to set it up
  5947. 2016-01-12 21:06:12     n-tech  rain
  5948. 2016-01-12 21:06:19     n-tech  i have missed it
  5949. 2016-01-12 23:12:32     n-tech  yo
  5950. 2016-01-12 23:12:33     n-tech  http://beta.8ch.net/
  5951. 2016-01-12 23:12:35     n-tech  i got this set up
  5952. 2016-01-12 23:12:38     n-tech  only the front page caches
  5953. 2016-01-12 23:12:50     n-tech  i'm going to continue to improve my tools for caching
  5954. 2016-01-12 23:12:55     n-tech  your job is to get varnish working for http
  5955. 2016-01-12 23:13:05     n-tech  you can chicken out and just get cloudflare to do pseudo-https
  5956. 2016-01-12 23:13:13     n-tech  but i think people would appreciate "full" https
  5957. 2016-01-12 23:13:23     n-tech  full being in sarcasm quotes because nsa has cloudflare backdoors but still
  5958. 2016-01-13 15:05:22     copypaste       full being in even more sarcasm quotes because in order to do full https you upload your privatekey to cloudflare
  5959. 2016-01-13 15:05:28     copypaste       i assume you know that
  5960. 2016-01-13 15:05:39     n-tech  ye that's the joke
  5961. 2016-01-13 15:05:39     n-tech  lol
  5962. 2016-01-13 15:05:44     n-tech  but yeah it's up there now
  5963. 2016-01-13 15:05:57     n-tech  http://beta.8ch.net/ https://beta.8ch.net/
  5964. 2016-01-13 15:05:58     copypaste       ok. i can probably figure it out
  5965. 2016-01-13 15:06:00     copypaste       yea
  5966. 2016-01-13 15:06:07     n-tech  That'd help a lot, it'd let me focus entirely on optimization
  5967. 2016-01-13 18:52:39     n-tech  http://8ch.net/tech/res/472850.html#472906
  5968. 2016-01-13 18:52:42     n-tech  I don't know how I missed this
  5969. 2016-01-13 18:52:50     n-tech  Balrog, the rando who apparently "owns" endchan
  5970. 2016-01-13 18:52:54     n-tech  made a post on /tech/ saying
  5971. 2016-01-13 18:52:56     n-tech  "WE NEED CODERS"
  5972. 2016-01-13 18:53:02     n-tech  it reminds me of when I played Blockland
  5973. 2016-01-13 18:53:09     n-tech  people who didn't know how to write scripts for add-ons
  5974. 2016-01-13 18:53:15     n-tech  would make general threads about their servers
  5975. 2016-01-13 18:53:23     n-tech  and would layout the rules to the gamemode they wanted to make that didn't exist
  5976. 2016-01-13 18:53:29     n-tech  and they would make like, job positions
  5977. 2016-01-13 18:53:49     n-tech  We need: 2 admins (already have 4), 6 moderators (already have 10), server host, CODERS!!
  5978. 2016-01-13 18:53:54     n-tech  and like
  5979. 2016-01-13 18:54:05     n-tech  they bring to the table absolutely nothing themselves besides this idea for a video game add-on
  5980. 2016-01-13 18:54:26     n-tech  and the thread is written in such a way that it's obvious the author expected the gravity of his wonderful idea in and of itself
  5981. 2016-01-13 18:54:34     n-tech  would attract the talent required to see his idea to completion
  5982. 2016-01-13 18:54:48     n-tech  Endchan is basically a really shitty blockland server.
  5983. 2016-01-13 18:59:08     copypaste       i'm not sure what blockland is, but i had the same expeirence when i played minecraft obsessively with the poorly run servers
  5984. 2016-01-13 18:59:17     copypaste       i even applied a few times to different positions
  5985. 2016-01-13 18:59:18     n-tech  ye that's basically the same shit
  5986. 2016-01-13 18:59:19     copypaste       lol
  5987. 2016-01-13 18:59:29     n-tech  kids wanted to make a cool server, didn't know how, expected other people to do it for them
  5988. 2016-01-13 18:59:38     copypaste       still thinking about this varnish problem
  5989. 2016-01-13 18:59:42     copypaste       i copied working configs that don't work
  5990. 2016-01-13 18:59:45     n-tech  it's a bitch ain't it
  5991. 2016-01-13 18:59:45     copypaste       i'm sure i'll get it eventually
  5992. 2016-01-13 18:59:49     n-tech  it works with static html
  5993. 2016-01-13 19:00:06     n-tech  the issue is upstream
  5994. 2016-01-13 19:00:15     n-tech  between nginx, varnish, and nginx again
  5995. 2016-01-13 19:00:25     n-tech  because varnishstat will say "MAIN.page_empty" or something
  5996. 2016-01-13 19:00:30     n-tech  and it will return a white screen when I got it working
  5997. 2016-01-13 19:00:39     n-tech  if I did SSL for a raw html doc i got it
  5998. 2016-01-13 19:00:46     n-tech  and php did react to the request
  5999. 2016-01-13 19:00:52     n-tech  so it's something fucky on the up
  6000. 2016-01-14 02:43:30     copypaste       hi sorry i had an asthma attack and went to the hospital so i'm too tired to think about it now
  6001. 2016-01-14 02:43:52     copypaste       i have a nifty inhaler now though
  6002. 2016-01-14 08:44:54     copypaste       https://i.imgur.com/u7VJOor.png
  6003. 2016-01-14 08:45:00     copypaste       stephenlynx posted a picture of himself
  6004. 2016-01-14 08:45:04     copypaste       in -dev just now
  6005. 2016-01-14 08:45:07     copypaste       i thought you'd like to see it
  6006. 2016-01-14 12:01:33     n-tech  he looks like a gay brown stephen colbert
  6007. 2016-01-14 22:12:58     copypaste       ron says to redirect /b/ to beta
  6008. 2016-01-14 22:13:04     copypaste       8ch.net/b/ -> beta.8ch.net/b/
  6009. 2016-01-14 22:13:05     copypaste       OK?
  6010. 2016-01-15 00:24:21     n-tech  Did you call me?
  6011. 2016-01-15 00:24:28     n-tech  I can't answer the phone, my screen is busted
  6012. 2016-01-15 00:24:53     copypaste       oh, the phone screen broke
  6013. 2016-01-15 00:24:57     copypaste       yeah i'm trying
  6014. 2016-01-15 00:25:03     copypaste       uh, according to -dev you are leaking ips right now
  6015. 2016-01-15 00:25:12     n-tech  I disabled it already but who cares
  6016. 2016-01-15 00:25:17     copypaste       12:19:40 atc https://media.8ch.net/n/src/1452784791694.png RIP
  6017. 2016-01-15 00:25:17     copypaste       12:19:42 Jesus why?
  6018. 2016-01-15 00:25:17     copypaste       12:20:53 Jesus what have I ever done to warrant josh coming into my life
  6019. 2016-01-15 00:25:17     copypaste       12:21:06 Jesus this is a sick joke
  6020. 2016-01-15 00:25:17     copypaste       12:21:15 atc Yo copypaste or someone who has access to turn debugging of should
  6021. 2016-01-15 00:25:18     copypaste       ok
  6022. 2016-01-15 00:25:18     n-tech  seriously i don't understand this fascination with IPs
  6023. 2016-01-15 00:25:21     copypaste       just making sure
  6024. 2016-01-15 00:25:22     copypaste       ye w/e
  6025. 2016-01-15 00:25:26     copypaste       just making sure it's disabled now
  6026. 2016-01-15 00:25:49     n-tech  it is, and tell the autists to stop fussing over fucking IP addresses nobody is going to DDoS your home router
  6027. 2016-01-15 02:17:44     n-tech  okay I am obviously starting to burn out
  6028. 2016-01-15 02:17:54     n-tech  because the fucking syntax for ln -s is eating me alive
  6029. 2016-01-15 02:18:07     n-tech  I have like 80 attachment directries symlinked to random shit like I sewed together a fucking frankenstein monster
  6030. 2016-01-15 02:18:31     n-tech  can you please symlink /var/www/8ch.net/storage/app/attachments/ to /srv/8ch.net/next/storage/app/attachments/
  6031. 2016-01-15 02:18:46     copypaste       ln -s <target> <linkname>
  6032. 2016-01-15 02:18:47     n-tech  http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1951742/how-to-symlink-a-file-in-linux
  6033. 2016-01-15 02:18:48     n-tech  yea
  6034. 2016-01-15 02:18:48     copypaste       it's really easy
  6035. 2016-01-15 02:18:50     n-tech  i'm following this shit
  6036. 2016-01-15 02:19:04     copypaste       ok, which one is the target and what's the link's name
  6037. 2016-01-15 02:19:15     n-tech  and now I have an attachment directory in /next/, /storage/, /storage/app/attachments/, /attachments/attachments/, and /attachments/attachments/attachments
  6038. 2016-01-15 02:19:21     copypaste       i think /srv/8ch.net/next/storage/app/attachments/ => target
  6039. 2016-01-15 02:19:22     n-tech  root@troi05:/var/www/8ch.net/next/storage/app# ln -s /srv/8ch.net/next/storage/app/attachments/ ./attachments
  6040. 2016-01-15 02:19:26     n-tech  like what the fuck am i doing wrong
  6041. 2016-01-15 02:19:42     copypaste       use absolute paths
  6042. 2016-01-15 02:19:58     copypaste       hm
  6043. 2016-01-15 02:20:03     copypaste       actually for lnkname probably doesn't matter
  6044. 2016-01-15 02:20:05     copypaste       idk lol
  6045. 2016-01-15 02:26:28     n-tech  I think I accidentally deleted all migrated attachments
  6046. 2016-01-15 02:26:35     n-tech  literally every part of my being is now screaming in unison
  6047. 2016-01-15 02:26:50     copypaste       troi06 has no backup
  6048. 2016-01-15 02:26:54     copypaste       as i said before
  6049. 2016-01-15 02:27:11     n-tech  well they're all symlinked
  6050. 2016-01-15 02:27:17     n-tech  so only symlinks got dropped
  6051. 2016-01-15 02:27:19     copypaste       so you deleted the symlinks or
  6052. 2016-01-15 02:27:19     copypaste       ok
  6053. 2016-01-15 02:30:43     n-tech  Okay, turn off the redirect please. lol
  6054. 2016-01-15 02:31:00     n-tech  I think this went on for long enough. oddly the server is stable now
  6055. 2016-01-15 02:31:13     copypaste       done
  6056. 2016-01-15 02:31:19     n-tech  The two main problems are
  6057. 2016-01-15 02:31:32     n-tech  1) HTTPS doesn't work with ESI because ESI is requesting https:// include URLS
  6058. 2016-01-15 02:31:41     n-tech  2) File attachments are unstable a fuck because of how we're importing content
  6059. 2016-01-15 02:32:01     n-tech  and I really am having a hard time getting attachment related work to function relaibly when there's failures
  6060. 2016-01-15 02:32:18     n-tech  they throw 500 errors, my other attempts at compensating for maybe-there-maybe-not-there files is fucking up other stuff
  6061. 2016-01-15 02:32:29     n-tech  i think the only real reliable way of importing next round
  6062. 2016-01-15 02:32:50     n-tech  is to import it without symlinks, to change our algo for hashes, and to skip most boards.
  6063. 2016-01-15 02:32:58     copypaste       sounds fine to me
  6064. 2016-01-15 02:33:13     copypaste       there's another RAID on troi11, never used
  6065. 2016-01-15 02:33:15     copypaste       we could use that
  6066. 2016-01-15 02:33:19     n-tech  If I thread the import so that each thread only does every Nth board to allow for 4 simoltanious imports
  6067. 2016-01-15 02:33:23     n-tech  and if we don't run over every attachment
  6068. 2016-01-15 02:33:24     copypaste       i discovered it by accident
  6069. 2016-01-15 02:33:28     n-tech  the import should complete in like an hour
  6070. 2016-01-15 02:33:52     copypaste       and then BO can request theri attachments
  6071. 2016-01-15 02:33:56     copypaste       if they want
  6072. 2016-01-15 02:34:06     copypaste       or just any user, don't have to moderate it that strictly
  6073. 2016-01-15 02:34:10     copypaste       "pls import /fringe/ attachments"
  6074. 2016-01-15 02:34:11     copypaste       "ok"
  6075. 2016-01-15 02:34:12     copypaste       etc
  6076. 2016-01-15 02:34:54     copypaste       so next import no more using troi06
  6077. 2016-01-15 02:34:57     copypaste       OK (☝゚∀゚)☝
  6078. 2016-01-15 02:35:34     n-tech  Sounds good
  6079. 2016-01-15 18:20:55     n-tech  https://twitter.com/xerxeswatkins/status/687940638503927808
  6080. 2016-01-15 18:21:10     n-tech  every time I become aware that Jim is aware that I still exist I get massive spikes of anxiety
  6081. 2016-01-15 18:21:16     n-tech  and I'm not usually someone who experiences anxiety
  6082. 2016-01-15 20:24:30     n-tech  okay do me a favor
  6083. 2016-01-15 20:24:39     n-tech  can you add a vuln.beta.8ch.net directory that bypasses cf
  6084. 2016-01-15 20:24:54     n-tech  I need to Seige
  6085. 2016-01-15 21:08:38     copypaste       added
  6086. 2016-01-15 21:09:43     copypaste       actually, cloudflare doesnt seem to like multiple levels of dots
  6087. 2016-01-15 21:09:48     copypaste       i added vulnbeta.8ch.net instead
  6088. 2016-01-15 21:09:52     copypaste       it accepted it but didn't resolve
  6089. 2016-01-15 21:17:59     n-tech  nginx isn't accepting it yer
  6090. 2016-01-15 21:18:03     n-tech  going to whitelist IPs
  6091. 2016-01-15 21:18:03     n-tech  thans
  6092. 2016-01-15 21:18:52     copypaste       http://o.8ch.net/%E6%9C%80%E3%82%82.png
  6093. 2016-01-15 21:18:55     copypaste       is this chart readable
  6094. 2016-01-15 21:19:03     copypaste       i need ur design expertise
  6095. 2016-01-15 21:19:32     n-tech  ye
  6096. 2016-01-15 21:19:38     n-tech  i would reverse the order of the legend though
  6097. 2016-01-15 21:19:41     n-tech  so it matches the graph
  6098. 2016-01-15 21:19:46     copypaste       lowest first?
  6099. 2016-01-15 21:19:50     copypaste       hmm
  6100. 2016-01-15 21:20:49     copypaste       also oekaki officially gets more posts than 8chan in a day
  6101. 2016-01-15 21:20:51     copypaste       rip
  6102. 2016-01-15 21:21:01     copypaste       that's what that graph says in nip
  6103. 2016-01-15 23:38:42     copypaste       hey
  6104. 2016-01-15 23:38:42     copypaste       emergency
  6105. 2016-01-15 23:38:43     copypaste       you need to recompile ffmpeg right now or disable it (i disabled it on 8chan until i get a chance to recompile)
  6106. 2016-01-15 23:39:24     copypaste       big 0day
  6107. 2016-01-15 23:39:33     copypaste       http://www.techeye.net/news/open-sauce-has-zero-day-bugs-too
  6108. 2016-01-15 23:40:20     copypaste       http://news.softpedia.com/news/zero-day-ffmpeg-vulnerability-lets-anyone-steal-files-from-remote-machines-498880.shtml
  6109. 2016-01-15 23:40:36     copypaste       the recompile flag is --disable-network
  6110. 2016-01-15 23:41:47     copypaste       the reason this is a big deal is because users can upload a slightly modified mp4 and trigger the bug
  6111. 2016-01-15 23:41:53     copypaste       to get any file on the system
  6112. 2016-01-15 23:41:57     copypaste       like, config files and so on
  6113. 2016-01-15 23:51:11     n-tech  Interesting
  6114. 2016-01-15 23:51:17     n-tech  What version does it affect
  6115. 2016-01-15 23:51:39     n-tech  oh wow any version before 2.8.4
  6116. 2016-01-16 16:11:47     copypaste       hey do you need to go to immigration soon ?
  6117. 2016-01-16 16:11:56     copypaste       remember not to overstay, your old 6 mo. visa is no good anymore
  6118. 2016-01-16 16:12:09     copypaste       every time you leave the country unless you have a 9(G) visa your previous visa is invalidated
  6119. 2016-01-16 16:12:30     copypaste       i'm going for my yearly check-in this month
  6120. 2016-01-16 16:20:34     n-tech  They didn't void that stamp
  6121. 2016-01-16 16:20:41     n-tech  As far as the BOI is concerned it is valid
  6122. 2016-01-16 16:21:50     copypaste       ┐('~`;)┌
  6123. 2016-01-16 16:22:08     copypaste       pretty sure that's not how it works, the latest stamp is the valid one
  6124. 2016-01-16 16:22:14     copypaste       any later one invalidates earlier ones
  6125. 2016-01-16 16:22:32     copypaste       i have 4 unvoided tourist stamps
  6126. 2016-01-16 16:22:37     copypaste       before the giant 9G stamp
  6127. 2016-01-16 16:23:01     n-tech  I didn't get a new stamp
  6128. 2016-01-16 16:23:06     n-tech  She made no impact on my passport
  6129. 2016-01-16 16:23:06     copypaste       really?
  6130. 2016-01-16 16:23:11     copypaste       wow
  6131. 2016-01-16 16:23:16     n-tech  Remember? She was being a bitch about me coming in for work
  6132. 2016-01-16 16:23:19     n-tech  and then she asked her suprevisor
  6133. 2016-01-16 16:23:23     copypaste       yes, i remember
  6134. 2016-01-16 16:23:27     n-tech  and her supervisor was like, indignant that she even asked him
  6135. 2016-01-16 16:23:28     copypaste       you shouldn't have said that work stuff
  6136. 2016-01-16 16:23:31     copypaste       "i work for american company"
  6137. 2016-01-16 16:23:35     n-tech  so she just closed the passport and gave it back to me
  6138. 2016-01-16 16:23:35     copypaste       "sorry no understand filipino"
  6139. 2016-01-16 16:23:39     copypaste       "want seeing rizal park lololol"
  6140. 2016-01-16 16:24:22     n-tech  She asked me dude
  6141. 2016-01-16 16:24:35     n-tech  She saw I had been there for a year and started pummeling me with questions about work and money
  6142. 2016-01-16 16:24:39     copypaste       so lie
  6143. 2016-01-16 16:24:56     n-tech  dude nevermind
  6144. 2016-01-16 16:25:01     n-tech  you're not understanding what i'm telling you
  6145. 2016-01-16 16:25:13     copypaste       yes, i remember, you said you work online
  6146. 2016-01-16 16:25:25     copypaste       but online is not a place. you work online freelance for an american company, better
  6147. 2016-01-16 16:25:32     copypaste       she wanted to know the nationality
  6148. 2016-01-16 16:25:32     n-tech  I told her that
  6149. 2016-01-16 16:25:34     n-tech  I told her exactly that
  6150. 2016-01-16 16:25:40     copypaste       oh, ok
  6151. 2016-01-16 16:25:44     copypaste       that's why she let us in then
  6152. 2016-01-16 16:25:44     n-tech  I work for an American company that I own online
  6153. 2016-01-16 16:25:49     copypaste       ahh
  6154. 2016-01-16 16:25:53     copypaste       i didn't catch that part
  6155. 2016-01-16 16:25:58     copypaste       ok cool
  6156. 2016-01-16 16:26:02     copypaste       it's nice she didn't stamp you
  6157. 2016-01-16 16:26:08     copypaste       save time & money
  6158. 2016-01-16 16:26:20     copypaste       when i went to phuket they stamped me when i came back
  6159. 2016-01-16 16:26:23     copypaste       invalidated 3 months
  6160. 2016-01-17 20:05:59     copypaste       hello
  6161. 2016-01-17 20:06:13     copypaste       it has been over 24 hours since i have seen mochi
  6162. 2016-01-17 20:06:33     copypaste       we didn't fight or anything, she just wanted to go to meet a friend at quezon memorial circle and i said ok
  6163. 2016-01-17 20:06:58     copypaste       if she doesn't come back by tomorrow morning i'm going to hire a private investigator and open a police report
  6164. 2016-01-17 20:07:00     copypaste       that's all
  6165. 2016-01-17 20:07:08     copypaste       if you see her let me know
  6166. 2016-01-17 20:07:46     copypaste       she left most of her things here and before she left didn't say anything about not coming back
  6167. 2016-01-17 20:09:35     copypaste       i believe that she may have went to a cult meeting
  6168. 2016-01-17 20:09:41     copypaste       judging by what i dug up on facebook
  6169. 2016-01-17 20:15:13     copypaste       i've also determined that she didn't steal any cash, ~60k php remains here which is odd because if it was premeditated to just run away she could have easily swiped it when im not paying attention
  6170. 2016-01-17 20:15:16     copypaste       considering she knows where it is
  6171. 2016-01-17 20:15:24     copypaste       this bolsters my theory that something bad happened to her
  6172. 2016-01-17 20:15:50     copypaste       no cards were stolen either despite her knowing the keycodes
  6173. 2016-01-17 20:54:18     n-tech  wow that's kind of shit
  6174. 2016-01-17 20:54:28     n-tech  What cult meeting? INC?
  6175. 2016-01-17 21:18:11     copypaste       her cousin came onto facebook and revealed some more details
  6176. 2016-01-17 21:18:19     copypaste       they never saw each other last night
  6177. 2016-01-17 21:18:39     copypaste       but she did know where mochi went, to rendezvous with her previous boyfriend as it's his birthday
  6178. 2016-01-17 21:18:43     copypaste       apparently they got back together
  6179. 2016-01-17 21:18:53     copypaste       they're probaly fucking. i'm going to get another nurse and fire her
  6180. 2016-01-17 21:19:06     copypaste       resolution
  6181. 2016-01-17 21:19:22     copypaste       i don't really care if she has a bf or anything btw, it's just the lying and one day unexplained absence
  6182. 2016-01-17 21:19:42     copypaste       if i want to fuck i use alternate avenues
  6183. 2016-01-17 21:24:46     n-tech  yeah it's kind of weird she'd poof like that
  6184. 2016-01-17 21:25:03     n-tech  she seemed so completely mindless and just seemed content to do whatever was asked
  6185. 2016-01-17 21:51:33     copypaste       maybe she finally snapped. but it's not like i mistreated her
  6186. 2016-01-17 21:51:37     copypaste       we didn't even fight for weeks before this
  6187. 2016-01-17 21:51:44     copypaste       she seemed happier even
  6188. 2016-01-17 21:51:55     copypaste       it's so weird. i think what happened is the boyfriend you know, they were meeting up as usual
  6189. 2016-01-17 22:01:23     copypaste       and then one thing led to another
  6190. 2016-01-17 22:01:41     copypaste       and she's knocked up again, and now they're madly in love (for the fifth time, they are a couple that is constantly breaking up and back together)
  6191. 2016-01-17 22:02:23     copypaste       and so they decided with rose colored glasses that anything is possible, etc etc, let's go to aklan
  6192. 2016-01-17 22:02:32     copypaste       and get a job, even though there are no jobs there
  6193. 2016-01-17 22:02:33     copypaste       it's sad really
  6194. 2016-01-17 22:02:47     copypaste       anyway, i found a replacement who is coming over now. her name is jane
  6195. 2016-01-17 22:02:54     copypaste       she'll probably be the new mochi
  6196. 2016-01-17 22:03:14     n-tech  How did you find her?
  6197. 2016-01-17 22:03:22     copypaste       she's mochi's cousin, funny enough
  6198. 2016-01-17 22:03:24     copypaste       i've met her before
  6199. 2016-01-17 22:03:28     n-tech  uh oh
  6200. 2016-01-17 22:03:36     n-tech  that sounds like a not-so-good idea
  6201. 2016-01-17 22:03:40     copypaste       why?
  6202. 2016-01-17 22:03:40     n-tech  there's going to be drama inevitably
  6203. 2016-01-17 22:04:34     copypaste       i don't care, it will make her come back and epxlain things to me
  6204. 2016-01-17 22:04:45     copypaste       so i can have some resolution
  6205. 2016-01-17 23:31:52     copypaste       she came strolling in at 11PM and i let her know she's fired
  6206. 2016-01-17 23:31:57     copypaste       come Feb 1
  6207. 2016-01-17 23:32:06     copypaste       thanks for looking out
  6208. 2016-01-17 23:59:28     n-tech  Is she upset?
  6209. 2016-01-18 00:00:08     copypaste       yes
  6210. 2016-01-18 00:00:24     copypaste       i don't care though. i really can't handle people lying to me, and this was just egregious
  6211. 2016-01-18 00:01:18     copypaste       i had to survive for 24 hours just on the chocolate in my fridge and tap water. i don't care if she wants to fuck the bf, take a break, or whatever. i only care about the lying about how long was going to be gone, what the purpose of leaving was, and so on
  6212. 2016-01-18 00:01:33     copypaste       i need time to make alternate arrangements and was given none
  6213. 2016-01-18 00:01:57     copypaste       i have 5 people i know who can fill in, but none on 0 day notice
  6214. 2016-01-18 00:20:22     copypaste       they have other jobs you know
  6215. 2016-01-18 00:20:34     copypaste       cleaning, or driving grabcar/uber, etc
  6216. 2016-01-18 00:20:56     copypaste       she's upset at losing a steady easy job, and i don't really want to retrain some derp, but it is what it is
  6217. 2016-01-18 00:24:13     n-tech  yeah I understand
  6218. 2016-01-18 00:24:30     n-tech  it's probably going to ruin that relationship too, she probably got coaxed into hanging out for longer than she intended
  6219. 2016-01-18 00:24:39     copypaste       yup, probably
  6220. 2016-01-18 00:24:51     n-tech  as i said, she doesn't strike me as someone who makes that many disobedient independent decisions
  6221. 2016-01-18 00:24:51     copypaste       "i got fired thanks to you, now support me"
  6222. 2016-01-18 00:25:03     copypaste       she doesn't, which is what's so odd about it
  6223. 2016-01-18 00:25:09     copypaste       she's usually happy to just watch TV all day
  6224. 2016-01-18 00:25:22     copypaste       one time she asked for 2 days off and i said sure thing
  6225. 2016-01-18 00:25:26     copypaste       that's what's so weird
  6226. 2016-01-18 19:50:10     copypaste       hey
  6227. 2016-01-18 19:50:15     copypaste       i have something that might help you
  6228. 2016-01-18 19:50:45     copypaste       it's not adderall but one of my friends who knows more about drugs than i do said modafinil is much easier to get, and one of the indications is
  6229. 2016-01-18 19:50:49     copypaste       dun da da dun sleep apnea
  6230. 2016-01-18 19:50:51     copypaste       which you have :D
  6231. 2016-01-18 19:51:12     copypaste       maybe you try it
  6232. 2016-01-18 19:51:20     copypaste       it's not S2 only
  6233. 2016-01-18 22:13:26     n-tech  I've heard good things about moda
  6234. 2016-01-18 22:15:34     n-tech  So Ron is helping with read.php? Did everyone just give up or something?
  6235. 2016-01-18 22:15:48     n-tech  Mate if you're giving up and getting Ron to help fix Vichan just let me know so I can stop wasting my time
  6236. 2016-01-18 22:15:50     n-tech  I'll just go home
  6237. 2016-01-18 22:16:09     n-tech  You've entirely shut down my motivation factory on this project
  6238. 2016-01-18 22:16:18     n-tech  I was staying optimistic until you were like, ah fuck it I'll just do it myself
  6239. 2016-01-18 22:22:21     copypaste       i don't know why ron made that commit, if you read it it's not much
  6240. 2016-01-18 22:22:30     copypaste       first he told me that Next has "too many loops"
  6241. 2016-01-18 22:22:33     copypaste       i don't know what that means
  6242. 2016-01-18 22:22:40     n-tech  He's a fucking moron
  6243. 2016-01-18 22:22:42     copypaste       then he read read.php source code and decided it was too long
  6244. 2016-01-18 22:22:47     copypaste       and needed to be split into functions
  6245. 2016-01-18 22:22:52     copypaste       if you read the commit it's basically nothing
  6246. 2016-01-18 22:22:52     n-tech  Here's what he dediced the problem is, you ready?
  6247. 2016-01-18 22:23:04     n-tech  There's a loop for threads on the board index
  6248. 2016-01-18 22:23:04     copypaste       all it does is change if/elif/else into function/function/function
  6249. 2016-01-18 22:23:06     n-tech  A loop for replies
  6250. 2016-01-18 22:23:09     n-tech  and then a loop for attachments
  6251. 2016-01-18 22:23:13     copypaste       i am just being polite, because that's how i do
  6252. 2016-01-18 22:23:16     n-tech  He is absolutely convinced that Next is unsalvagable
  6253. 2016-01-18 22:23:22     n-tech  because it runs in "quadratic time"
  6254. 2016-01-18 22:23:29     n-tech  meaning he wants the software to have no loops at all
  6255. 2016-01-18 22:23:31     copypaste       he says weird stuff like that to me sometimes
  6256. 2016-01-18 22:23:36     copypaste       ``n log n''
  6257. 2016-01-18 22:23:45     copypaste       i'm pretty sure he says this stuff to sound smart and doesn't know what it means
  6258. 2016-01-18 22:24:03     n-tech  That wasn't even the fucking problem, Johann discovered the captcha system had the last super slow PostgreSQL query
  6259. 2016-01-18 22:24:13     n-tech  The binary fields for IPs and Hashes cannot be indexed
  6260. 2016-01-18 22:24:18     n-tech  So searching on them is impossibly slow.
  6261. 2016-01-18 22:24:19     copypaste       yes, that's what we were discussing
  6262. 2016-01-18 22:24:22     copypaste       and then he was like, hash it
  6263. 2016-01-18 22:24:29     copypaste       we were talking in slack about this i recall
  6264. 2016-01-18 22:24:36     copypaste       i don't see how hasing it helps
  6265. 2016-01-18 22:24:38     n-tech  Johann or Ron?
  6266. 2016-01-18 22:24:41     copypaste       ron of course
  6267. 2016-01-18 22:25:00     n-tech  It's like he just makes shit up, how the fuck am I supposed to believe 2ch has no for loops
  6268. 2016-01-18 22:25:04     n-tech  motherfucker you have threads
  6269. 2016-01-18 22:25:16     n-tech  and you have thread splicing URLs
  6270. 2016-01-18 22:25:19     n-tech  you sure as fuck have a loop
  6271. 2016-01-18 22:25:21     copypaste       haskell doesn't use loops, have you ever programmed in lisp?
  6272. 2016-01-18 22:25:26     n-tech  no
  6273. 2016-01-18 22:25:27     copypaste       it's a functional language
  6274. 2016-01-18 22:25:32     copypaste       it's all done by recursion, there are no loops
  6275. 2016-01-18 22:25:36     copypaste       it doesn't make much difference mind
  6276. 2016-01-18 22:25:39     n-tech  function recursion?
  6277. 2016-01-18 22:25:41     copypaste       yes
  6278. 2016-01-18 22:25:43     copypaste       that's right
  6279. 2016-01-18 22:25:51     copypaste       it wouldn't be faster
  6280. 2016-01-18 22:25:56     n-tech  He could not and refused to explain to me
  6281. 2016-01-18 22:25:58     copypaste       Next's problems are not due to programming paradigms
  6282. 2016-01-18 22:25:59     n-tech  how that was faster
  6283. 2016-01-18 22:26:10     copypaste       it's just OOP vs functional debate
  6284. 2016-01-18 22:26:12     n-tech  I asked him and he said he "didn't have time to give a lesson on quadratic computational time"
  6285. 2016-01-18 22:26:19     copypaste       you know how people on /tech/ just constantly spout programming language maymays
  6286. 2016-01-18 22:26:26     copypaste       that's basically ron, he pisses me off often
  6287. 2016-01-18 22:26:38     copypaste       i can copy some convo i had where he was shitting on 8chan blah blah
  6288. 2016-01-18 22:26:42     copypaste       and i told him you had all year to help
  6289. 2016-01-18 22:26:44     copypaste       you didn't do anything
  6290. 2016-01-18 22:26:54     copypaste       all you did wsa complain about php and say haskell is gr8
  6291. 2016-01-18 22:26:57     copypaste       over and over
  6292. 2016-01-18 22:27:16     copypaste       but not even offer any haskell backend for anyone to test, so i don't want to discuss vaporware
  6293. 2016-01-18 22:27:20     copypaste       and that is why he made a commit to read.php
  6294. 2016-01-18 22:27:30     copypaste       but it's untested, he just used php lint he said to me in slack PM
  6295. 2016-01-18 22:27:38     copypaste       i don't know why he did it, maybe he is just bored
  6296. 2016-01-18 22:27:49     copypaste       it doesn't really help with anything if you read the commit, it's a minor refactor
  6297. 2016-01-18 22:28:00     copypaste       i just liked one of his function names, doomsday lol.
  6298. 2016-01-18 22:28:24     n-tech  This commit was a horrible idea
  6299. 2016-01-18 22:28:41     n-tech  Anyone can figure out he's involved in 8chan now
  6300. 2016-01-18 22:28:54     n-tech  Saying that "2ch engineers" are helping isn't a good facade anymore
  6301. 2016-01-18 22:29:12     n-tech  also jesus fucking christ he uses 2 spaces instead of a tab
  6302. 2016-01-18 22:30:32     copypaste       yes, so it's mixed indentation
  6303. 2016-01-18 22:30:42     copypaste       i be polite to him, since i rely on being on his good side for a job.
  6304. 2016-01-18 22:30:44     copypaste       politics is important.
  6305. 2016-01-18 22:30:48     copypaste       https://8ch.net/_t/20160118.txt
  6306. 2016-01-18 22:30:57     copypaste       i am going to publish tihs now, do you not like any wording?
  6307. 2016-01-18 22:31:47     n-tech  It's fine
  6308. 2016-01-18 22:31:57     n-tech  shopwise closes in 30 minutes so I gotta go, brb
  6309. 2016-01-18 22:32:08     copypaste       ok. also johann is the real engineer
  6310. 2016-01-18 22:32:11     copypaste       just saying
  6311. 2016-01-18 22:32:12     copypaste       cya
  6312. 2016-01-18 22:32:18     copypaste       ron is the CEO's son
  6313. 2016-01-18 22:32:21     copypaste       don't mix up the two
  6314. 2016-01-19 12:42:10     n-tech  yo
  6315. 2016-01-19 12:42:18     n-tech  can I get you to install custom firmware on this other phone I had
  6316. 2016-01-19 12:42:30     n-tech  I don't know if it'll work but the screen's busted on yours, I don't know how it broke
  6317. 2016-01-19 16:18:20     copypaste       probably sat on it
  6318. 2016-01-19 16:18:25     copypaste       i can try
  6319. 2016-01-19 16:18:31     copypaste       i need model number of phone
  6320. 2016-01-19 16:18:40     copypaste       and also what bands it supports
  6321. 2016-01-19 16:19:09     copypaste       you can find this stuff on gsmarena.com
  6322. 2016-01-19 16:20:04     copypaste       also, phone flashing and repair is a major business in philippines
  6323. 2016-01-19 16:20:16     copypaste       i'm sure that the people who work at them know more than even i do
  6324. 2016-01-19 16:20:18     copypaste       just saying
  6325. 2016-01-19 19:51:42     n-tech  SAMSUNG-SM-G900V
  6326. 2016-01-19 19:59:25     copypaste       if i flash it i don't think it'll work on the local 3G network here
  6327. 2016-01-19 19:59:44     copypaste       you're gonna have to buy a new phone. you can get a cheap one for maybe 3K-5K
  6328. 2016-01-19 20:10:37     n-tech  Do you know what band I need to be able to listen to?
  6329. 2016-01-19 20:10:59     n-tech  because my phone has options to access "global" bands
  6330. 2016-01-19 20:11:07     n-tech  but it literally locks me out because I don't have a Verizon plan
  6331. 2016-01-19 20:11:19     n-tech  I'm pretty sure I can do lots of cool stuff with my phone but I'm not allowed to because of the firmware
  6332. 2016-01-19 20:11:23     n-tech  which is why I want to flash it
  6333. 2016-01-19 20:12:41     copypaste       you can't flash locked phones without rooting, and some locks are implemented at the firmware level and not the OS level
  6334. 2016-01-19 20:12:56     n-tech  My phone is rooted
  6335. 2016-01-19 20:12:58     copypaste       some are implemented in the baseband
  6336. 2016-01-19 20:13:01     n-tech  I've deleted tons of Verizon stuff already
  6337. 2016-01-19 20:13:03     copypaste       oh, ok then
  6338. 2016-01-19 20:13:11     n-tech  it says "Custom" when I boot it
  6339. 2016-01-19 20:13:15     n-tech  I think that means rooted yea?
  6340. 2016-01-19 20:37:02     copypaste       i have no idea, i guess it would depend on the bootloader
  6341. 2016-01-19 20:37:09     copypaste       if you have the terminal application can u do `su`?
  6342. 2016-01-19 20:37:25     copypaste       if so that means that you can change the OS, but the firmware might still be locked to verizon
  6343. 2016-01-19 20:37:30     copypaste       they're separate in most newer phones
  6344. 2016-01-19 20:44:27     n-tech  http://i.imgur.com/VrJ9hIh.png
  6345. 2016-01-19 20:44:28     n-tech  yeee
  6346. 2016-01-19 20:46:13     copypaste       OK, i can flash it but the details of firmware locks are something i don't know much about
  6347. 2016-01-19 20:46:58     copypaste       so my flash is not guaranteed to unlock the phone from verizon
  6348. 2016-01-19 20:47:02     copypaste       it might though
  6349. 2016-01-19 20:47:22     copypaste       i only ever have bought unlockedGSM phones
  6350. 2016-01-19 20:47:25     copypaste       because i trave a lot
  6351. 2016-01-19 21:57:08     copypaste       /14/14/14
  6352. 2016-01-20 10:05:52     copypaste       i found modafinil already
  6353. 2016-01-20 10:06:03     n-tech  "found"?
  6354. 2016-01-20 10:06:06     copypaste       we're meeting the guy 5:30 pm friday in katipunan
  6355. 2016-01-20 10:06:10     copypaste       yes found
  6356. 2016-01-20 10:06:23     n-tech  Where is that?
  6357. 2016-01-20 10:06:29     n-tech  Do I need to bring money?
  6358. 2016-01-20 10:06:31     n-tech  Is this sustainable?
  6359. 2016-01-20 10:07:14     copypaste       i could have found ice (for drinking of course :^)) six months ago if that's what you wanted you know, it's just foreign imported pharms are hard to find
  6360. 2016-01-20 10:07:25     copypaste       katipunan is like, southwest of here
  6361. 2016-01-20 10:07:38     copypaste       we're meeting by the train station there
  6362. 2016-01-20 10:08:02     copypaste       yeah you bring 1325 php exactly, i'll do the same
  6363. 2016-01-20 10:08:15     copypaste       i told him we're splitting it since im also curious but if i dont like it ill just give you mine
  6364. 2016-01-20 10:09:10     n-tech  What is the quantity and dosage?
  6365. 2016-01-20 10:09:12     copypaste       its a legit brand in original blister pack
  6366. 2016-01-20 10:09:18     n-tech  and what happens when I want more?
  6367. 2016-01-20 10:09:24     copypaste       15x100mg
  6368. 2016-01-20 10:09:33     copypaste       well, if you want more i'll give you his number
  6369. 2016-01-20 10:09:37     copypaste       why not try it first though di ba
  6370. 2016-01-20 10:09:49     n-tech  I will but still
  6371. 2016-01-20 10:11:18     copypaste       kcool. i tried to also get ritalin, but he said that's more strictly regulated. it might even be S2
  6372. 2016-01-20 10:11:51     copypaste       try this first. i think it's safer
  6373. 2016-01-20 10:11:56     copypaste       ritalin is for out of control 6 year olds
  6374. 2016-01-20 10:12:04     copypaste       i don't think you need to go that route yet
  6375. 2016-01-20 10:12:22     n-tech  I'm pretty out of control
  6376. 2016-01-20 10:12:52     copypaste       you're unpredictable
  6377. 2016-01-20 10:12:53     copypaste       and erratic
  6378. 2016-01-20 10:12:55     copypaste       it's not the same
  6379. 2016-01-20 10:13:10     n-tech  I'm the most predictable person in the entire world
  6380. 2016-01-20 10:13:19     copypaste       i wouldn't say that
  6381. 2016-01-20 10:13:31     copypaste       your schedule is predictable but your reactions to things are not
  6382. 2016-01-20 10:15:10     n-tech  I dunno I'm prety predictable
  6383. 2016-01-20 10:15:12     n-tech  you keep thinking I quit
  6384. 2016-01-20 10:15:20     n-tech  you literally thought I quit the project and planned to leave the country
  6385. 2016-01-20 10:15:23     copypaste       because you keep quitting
  6386. 2016-01-20 10:15:26     n-tech  because I was angry at Jollibees
  6387. 2016-01-20 10:15:37     n-tech  I've never quit, you just assume I quit for some reason
  6388. 2016-01-20 10:15:48     copypaste       ok
  6389. 2016-01-20 10:15:55     n-tech  no, you can't back out of that
  6390. 2016-01-20 10:16:08     copypaste       im not
  6391. 2016-01-20 10:16:12     n-tech  I've never said I was done. I get upset and say that this makes things more difficult or makes me wonder if the project is worth doing
  6392. 2016-01-20 10:16:20     n-tech  but then you bridge that gap and assume I'm taking off
  6393. 2016-01-20 10:16:23     n-tech  and it's really bizarre
  6394. 2016-01-20 10:16:50     copypaste       you keep talking about that dog and leaving the country
  6395. 2016-01-20 10:16:57     n-tech  wat
  6396. 2016-01-20 10:17:00     copypaste       i don't know what else i'm supposed to get out of that
  6397. 2016-01-20 10:17:11     copypaste       i've heard you mention three times so far leaving the country and getting a dog
  6398. 2016-01-20 10:17:14     copypaste       specifically, about a dog
  6399. 2016-01-20 10:17:23     copypaste       the dog stuck with me more than the leaving
  6400. 2016-01-20 10:17:26     n-tech  You were there
  6401. 2016-01-20 10:17:39     n-tech  when the Senden guy offered to move us to Japan and pay for rent in Spring
  6402. 2016-01-20 10:17:44     n-tech  and I told Ron while I was there
  6403. 2016-01-20 10:17:46     n-tech  after this offer
  6404. 2016-01-20 10:17:47     copypaste       wait, it's specifically ron's dog only?
  6405. 2016-01-20 10:17:53     n-tech  that if I moved I'd take his dog if he didn't want it
  6406. 2016-01-20 10:17:55     copypaste       not just any dog >
  6407. 2016-01-20 10:18:00     n-tech  yeah dude it's a shibe and he doesn't treat it well
  6408. 2016-01-20 10:18:05     n-tech  he has this super active dog locked up inside
  6409. 2016-01-20 10:18:09     n-tech  and he gets mad that it's destructive
  6410. 2016-01-20 10:18:20     copypaste       ok i misunderstood, and also i mentally rated the chances of the move over actually panning out very low
  6411. 2016-01-20 10:18:23     n-tech  it's destructive because it's a high maintenance animal with no stimulation
  6412. 2016-01-20 10:18:24     copypaste       you know i'm a pessimist
  6413. 2016-01-20 10:18:37     n-tech  I have many plans and many paths and zero stake in any of them
  6414. 2016-01-20 10:18:41     n-tech  I daydream a lot
  6415. 2016-01-20 10:19:01     copypaste       i thinkthat a dog would be excellent for you
  6416. 2016-01-20 10:19:07     copypaste       i for one have always wanted a golden retriver
  6417. 2016-01-20 10:19:16     copypaste       but, i would need to live at ground level for tha tto be a reality
  6418. 2016-01-20 10:19:53     copypaste       i think shiba inu is cute but i'm not going to pretend that that is a sensible dog for someone with my condition,lol
  6419. 2016-01-20 10:20:45     n-tech  that dog overpowered you in the car, lol
  6420. 2016-01-20 10:20:50     n-tech  stick with cats
  6421. 2016-01-20 11:50:20     copypaste       when i was in foster care they had this cutest dog
  6422. 2016-01-20 11:50:23     copypaste       shit zu or something
  6423. 2016-01-20 11:50:28     copypaste       shit zoo idk
  6424. 2016-01-20 11:50:31     copypaste       that's what it soundede like
  6425. 2016-01-20 11:50:39     copypaste       anyway that dog was super old and like blind and shit
  6426. 2016-01-20 11:51:19     copypaste       it was fun to just hold him and he'd do that cute panting thing
  6427. 2016-01-20 11:51:47     copypaste       no one ever gave that dog much attention and people would always step on him on accident and since hes blind he doesn't see it coming
  6428. 2016-01-20 11:51:55     copypaste       he died while i was there ;_;
  6429. 2016-01-20 11:52:23     copypaste       but anyway golden retrievers are a calm breed, they give them to quadraplegics and blind people in the us as service animals
  6430. 2016-01-20 11:52:27     copypaste       they were bred for that purpose
  6431. 2016-01-20 11:52:44     copypaste       the shiba inu only overpowered me because it didn't know me and it was a hunting dog
  6432. 2016-01-20 11:52:59     copypaste       anyway, worse comes to worse i go to a shelter and pick up another super old lap dog
  6433. 2016-01-21 12:38:28     copypaste       so
  6434. 2016-01-21 12:38:59     n-tech  what time is it that we're meeting up tomorrow
  6435. 2016-01-21 12:39:00     copypaste       here's my plans for tomorrow, to come pick you up and take you to katipunan, we'll meet that guy and see what the mall there is like
  6436. 2016-01-21 12:39:14     copypaste       i want to spend a bit of time just talking and goign over things beforehand if it's ok
  6437. 2016-01-21 12:39:17     copypaste       also you can meet cheryl
  6438. 2016-01-21 12:39:22     copypaste       who i am probably going to hire
  6439. 2016-01-21 12:39:26     n-tech  is Mochi already gone?
  6440. 2016-01-21 12:39:28     copypaste       no
  6441. 2016-01-21 12:39:39     copypaste       mochi might still be there, idk. depends on how today goes
  6442. 2016-01-21 12:39:44     copypaste       maybe both will be there. lmao
  6443. 2016-01-21 12:40:58     n-tech  what time are you coming over?
  6444. 2016-01-21 12:41:05     copypaste       2?
  6445. 2016-01-21 12:41:11     n-tech  alright
  6446. 2016-01-21 12:41:33     n-tech  remember, my phone is down, so I'll give you my old phone to flash as well
  6447. 2016-01-21 12:41:41     copypaste       oh, you have no phone
  6448. 2016-01-21 12:43:45     n-tech  btw
  6449. 2016-01-21 12:43:45     n-tech  https://kiwifar.ms/threads/nick-bate-3-judgement-day.16562/page-17#post-1225446
  6450. 2016-01-21 12:49:35     copypaste       lol
  6451. 2016-01-21 12:49:43     copypaste       guilty across the board, who would have thought
  6452. 2016-01-21 12:50:03     n-tech  i wrote a big post about how i felt cuz it's kind of a weird thing for me
  6453. 2016-01-21 12:50:10     n-tech  if i had to repick my career i'd be a public defender
  6454. 2016-01-21 12:50:17     copypaste       you'd defend nick?
  6455. 2016-01-21 12:50:18     copypaste       why ?
  6456. 2016-01-21 12:50:18     n-tech  i truly despise the american justice system
  6457. 2016-01-21 12:50:20     n-tech  yes
  6458. 2016-01-21 12:50:23     n-tech  because i could
  6459. 2016-01-21 12:50:27     n-tech  because he deserves a fair trial
  6460. 2016-01-21 12:50:29     copypaste       but he was guilty
  6461. 2016-01-21 12:50:32     copypaste       he deserved it
  6462. 2016-01-21 12:50:35     n-tech  do you know that?
  6463. 2016-01-21 12:50:42     copypaste       no
  6464. 2016-01-21 12:50:44     n-tech  see
  6465. 2016-01-21 12:50:44     copypaste       but he admitted it
  6466. 2016-01-21 12:50:49     copypaste       he said he wrote that
  6467. 2016-01-21 12:50:51     n-tech  i said i'd strangle mark
  6468. 2016-01-21 12:50:53     n-tech  but i wouldn't
  6469. 2016-01-21 12:50:54     n-tech  lol
  6470. 2016-01-21 12:51:00     n-tech  Nick is a chronic failure
  6471. 2016-01-21 12:51:05     n-tech  and that's partly because of society
  6472. 2016-01-21 12:51:10     n-tech  and society owes him at least a fair trial
  6473. 2016-01-21 12:51:13     n-tech  something has to work
  6474. 2016-01-21 12:51:18     n-tech  you can't just keep putting people in a box
  6475. 2016-01-21 12:52:09     copypaste       you can still becmoe a public defender if you can afford the schooling you know
  6476. 2016-01-21 12:52:11     copypaste       they'll take aonyone
  6477. 2016-01-21 12:52:17     copypaste       you just need a law degree and a bar exam pass
  6478. 2016-01-21 12:52:19     copypaste       just saying
  6479. 2016-01-21 12:52:28     n-tech  yea but it'd be work and it'd take going back to school
  6480. 2016-01-21 12:52:31     n-tech  i like what i do
  6481. 2016-01-21 12:52:33     copypaste       indeed
  6482. 2016-01-21 12:52:49     n-tech  holy shit the guy nextdoor is like
  6483. 2016-01-21 12:52:53     n-tech  putting something in his wall
  6484. 2016-01-21 12:52:55     n-tech  and out of nowhere just
  6485. 2016-01-21 12:53:00     n-tech  horrible whirring noise
  6486. 2016-01-21 12:53:03     n-tech  drilling into concrete
  6487. 2016-01-21 12:53:03     n-tech  wtf
  6488. 2016-01-21 12:53:12     n-tech  i didn't even know I had a neighbor
  6489. 2016-01-21 12:53:16     copypaste       what's wrong with drilling concree
  6490. 2016-01-21 12:53:18     copypaste       maybe you didn't
  6491. 2016-01-21 12:53:23     copypaste       could be the unit owner found a tenant
  6492. 2016-01-21 12:53:24     n-tech  it's loud as shit
  6493. 2016-01-21 12:53:26     n-tech  like deafening
  6494. 2016-01-21 12:53:30     copypaste       yeah that's true
  6495. 2016-01-21 12:53:47     n-tech  I'm glad I wasn't asleep because that'd scare the shit out of me
  6496. 2016-01-21 12:53:50     n-tech  it's right by my bed
  6497. 2016-01-21 12:54:30     copypaste       yee
  6498. 2016-01-21 12:54:41     copypaste       but then again, if he wasn't always there he might not even know you live there
  6499. 2016-01-21 12:54:46     copypaste       you don't have anything hung up on your door
  6500. 2016-01-21 12:54:52     n-tech  wow I really hope th dude's just putting something into his wall and i've had a neighbor this entire time
  6501. 2016-01-21 12:54:52     copypaste       no quote or anything
  6502. 2016-01-21 12:54:54     copypaste       neither do i
  6503. 2016-01-21 12:54:57     n-tech  because if I have a new neighbor
  6504. 2016-01-21 12:55:00     n-tech  and this is the shit he does
  6505. 2016-01-21 12:55:02     n-tech  i'm going to go insane
  6506. 2016-01-21 12:55:05     copypaste       lol
  6507. 2016-01-21 12:55:06     copypaste       yeah
  6508. 2016-01-21 12:55:21     copypaste       you can move though, it's a whole empty building
  6509. 2016-01-21 12:55:26     copypaste       just saying ┐('~`;)┌
  6510. 2016-01-21 12:55:58     copypaste       i'm curious how you would have defended nick
  6511. 2016-01-21 12:56:01     copypaste       and why you think he's innocent
  6512. 2016-01-21 12:56:20     n-tech  everyone is innocent until proven guilty
  6513. 2016-01-21 12:56:22     n-tech  lol
  6514. 2016-01-21 12:56:29     n-tech  you really are made for this country
  6515. 2016-01-21 12:56:33     n-tech  you have no concept of western values
  6516. 2016-01-21 12:56:35     copypaste       lel
  6517. 2016-01-21 12:56:37     copypaste       sorry
  6518. 2016-01-21 12:56:45     n-tech  it just astounds me that we grew up in the same country
  6519. 2016-01-21 12:56:49     n-tech  like, not in a dismissive way
  6520. 2016-01-21 12:56:53     n-tech  but your mindset is radically different
  6521. 2016-01-21 12:57:04     copypaste       did we, did we really? i grew up in a trailer park and then in government housing
  6522. 2016-01-21 12:57:08     copypaste       also part of the time in foster care
  6523. 2016-01-21 12:57:12     copypaste       our upbringings weren't that similar
  6524. 2016-01-21 12:57:26     n-tech  well I grew up in Florida with a single mother
  6525. 2016-01-21 12:57:30     copypaste       i was just talking about something similar with [desu]
  6526. 2016-01-21 12:57:32     n-tech  but we come from the same nation
  6527. 2016-01-21 12:57:47     n-tech  like i didn't have much
  6528. 2016-01-21 12:57:55     copypaste       everyone is innocent until proven guilty in the eyes of the law
  6529. 2016-01-21 12:58:01     copypaste       not in reality, and not in the eyes of most sane people
  6530. 2016-01-21 12:58:03     copypaste       depends on the case
  6531. 2016-01-21 12:58:14     n-tech  well like, for instance
  6532. 2016-01-21 12:58:26     n-tech  I think it was John Adams who represented the British soldiers who did the Boston Massacre
  6533. 2016-01-21 12:58:31     n-tech  and people were like, angry that he did this
  6534. 2016-01-21 12:58:35     n-tech  that he stepped up to defend them
  6535. 2016-01-21 12:58:37     n-tech  and he was like
  6536. 2016-01-21 12:58:48     n-tech  we just fucking made the constitution and we're not going to give these guys a fair trial? fuck you
  6537. 2016-01-21 12:58:57     n-tech  so he represented them and they were fairly convicted
  6538. 2016-01-21 12:59:05     copypaste       but ok why don't you think nick's trial was fair
  6539. 2016-01-21 12:59:09     copypaste       i'm not arguing against trials
  6540. 2016-01-21 12:59:13     n-tech  his defense was very poor
  6541. 2016-01-21 12:59:16     copypaste       i read the court report from whoever wrote it, it sounded fair
  6542. 2016-01-21 12:59:20     copypaste       because what he did is indefensible
  6543. 2016-01-21 12:59:28     n-tech  their argument was literally just that he would have raped her using shit
  6544. 2016-01-21 12:59:31     copypaste       that's why i asked how you'd defend him considering the evidence
  6545. 2016-01-21 12:59:36     n-tech  but since Amber's testimony didn't involve shit
  6546. 2016-01-21 12:59:44     n-tech  it couldn't have happened
  6547. 2016-01-21 12:59:46     n-tech  that was their defense
  6548. 2016-01-21 12:59:48     n-tech  that's a joke
  6549. 2016-01-21 12:59:57     n-tech  no sane lawyer would have presented that defense
  6550. 2016-01-21 13:00:05     copypaste       because the evidence was airtight, there couldn't have been a better  defense than perhaps "well, he was hacked lol"
  6551. 2016-01-21 13:00:10     copypaste       and really, people are getting tired of tht
  6552. 2016-01-21 13:00:37     n-tech  well tbh
  6553. 2016-01-21 13:00:42     n-tech  you don't let him get into a courtroom
  6554. 2016-01-21 13:00:49     n-tech  because people like you more likely than not end up in the jury
  6555. 2016-01-21 13:00:53     n-tech  he said it, therefore he did it
  6556. 2016-01-21 13:00:57     n-tech  it was her worse versus his
  6557. 2016-01-21 13:01:03     n-tech  they should have demanded he plea out
  6558. 2016-01-21 13:01:08     n-tech  take 1 charge and get 7 years
  6559. 2016-01-21 13:01:11     n-tech  now he may never get out
  6560. 2016-01-21 13:01:17     copypaste       he shouldn't ever get out
  6561. 2016-01-21 13:01:19     copypaste       justice was served
  6562. 2016-01-21 13:01:29     n-tech  i guess, but that's not what a defense lawyer does
  6563. 2016-01-21 13:01:40     copypaste       yeah i agree he should not have gone on the stand
  6564. 2016-01-21 13:01:43     copypaste       but some clients insist
  6565. 2016-01-21 13:01:44     n-tech  my job is a technical challenge that tries to get the best circumstances for the worst people
  6566. 2016-01-21 13:01:53     n-tech  that's what people are speculating
  6567. 2016-01-21 13:01:55     n-tech  which makes me think
  6568. 2016-01-21 13:02:00     n-tech  if he genuinely wanted to stand trial
  6569. 2016-01-21 13:02:04     n-tech  he MUST have been warned
  6570. 2016-01-21 13:02:08     n-tech  that he would be slaughtered
  6571. 2016-01-21 13:02:14     n-tech  so i'm wondering if he was genuinely innocent
  6572. 2016-01-21 13:02:20     n-tech  like, he must have thought he had a chance
  6573. 2016-01-21 13:02:23     copypaste       sure, lots of clients still think as long as they can have their say it will help though, especially crazy people
  6574. 2016-01-21 13:02:34     n-tech  perhaps, it's hard to say
  6575. 2016-01-21 13:02:38     n-tech  I wrote a big post on this, let me find it
  6576. 2016-01-21 13:02:44     copypaste       ok
  6577. 2016-01-21 13:02:59     n-tech  I do find it very interesting that Nick was absolutely fucked. Whether or not he did anything doesn't even matter. His testimony didn't matter, AO's didn't matter. He condemned himself with what he did online. Even if he had never hurt anyone his entire life, Nick had essentially doused himself in gasoline -- it doesn't matter if he set the spark or not, given enough time, he was destined to go up in
  6578. 2016-01-21 13:03:01     n-tech  flames. This isn't even shocking to me, it's just what's expected, which is why in the sentence guessing game I've gone for maximum sentence no parole. He cannot be forgiven for his crimes, even if they were crimes he didn't commit. He said enough to convict himself.
  6579. 2016-01-21 13:03:01     n-tech  It is also almost incomprehensible how fucked he is. Both times Chris went to jail, we had to have 24/7 efforts to remind people that nothing really that bad was going to happen. Like, people seriously overestimated how aggressive a small courtroom is. This is the exact opposite. It is impossible to overstate how bad Nick's situation is. He's not on a legal death row, but he will die in prison. I have
  6580. 2016-01-21 13:03:04     n-tech  no doubt about it. He's going to a high/maximum security prison and may end up in Administrative Segregation, which is basically solitary confinement. A man who's grown up in the technological era is being stripped of all entertainment and thrown in a steel cage until he is inevitably murdered by a vigilante inmate. There is no way that is not going to happen. My brain cannot even begin to process the
  6581. 2016-01-21 13:03:09     n-tech  levels of abject misery he will be in. I'd consider death a blessing in his shoes.
  6582. 2016-01-21 13:03:11     n-tech  This sort of thing doesn't really make me happy. Absolutely no one wins here. American prison sentences are not about justice or rehabilitation, it's about revenge. We feel schadenfreude knowing that someone is going to live the rest of their life not being able to be happy ever again, with an extremely high probability of sexual assault, violent assault, and being murdered. The American tax payers
  6583. 2016-01-21 13:03:16     n-tech  will be paying for the privilege of torturing Nick Bate for as many years as it drags out. In these cases, usually even the victim isn't happy about it because it doesn't really change anything. He won't be able to hurt anyone else again, but I'd consider our prison system cruel and unusual punishment, so it doesn't really feel like proper justice to me either.
  6584. 2016-01-21 13:03:21     n-tech  On the upside, I'll never have to read another tweet with the word aboot in it again, and for that, I'm grateful.
  6585. 2016-01-21 13:04:36     copypaste       now i agree with you here. bring back the death penalty
  6586. 2016-01-21 13:04:41     n-tech  ye
  6587. 2016-01-21 13:04:42     copypaste       they should just kill him, and not after ten years neither
  6588. 2016-01-21 13:04:48     copypaste       6 months max
  6589. 2016-01-21 13:04:51     n-tech  well I think the dp should be opt in
  6590. 2016-01-21 13:04:54     copypaste       let any appeals drag out, then electric chair
  6591. 2016-01-21 13:04:56     copypaste       bzz bzz bzz
  6592. 2016-01-21 13:04:58     n-tech  like, not entirely
  6593. 2016-01-21 13:05:02     n-tech  if I was him I'd just say kill me
  6594. 2016-01-21 13:05:09     n-tech  I'd sign papers and go infront of a firing squad in a week
  6595. 2016-01-21 13:05:12     n-tech  like who cares at that point
  6596. 2016-01-21 13:05:13     n-tech  ggwp
  6597. 2016-01-21 13:05:23     copypaste       yeah
  6598. 2016-01-21 13:05:38     copypaste       but i still think the court was fair
  6599. 2016-01-21 13:05:59     n-tech  on the assumption that Nick denied lawyer advice to stand in front of a jury
  6600. 2016-01-21 13:06:06     n-tech  then I think they probably just did what he asked
  6601. 2016-01-21 13:06:09     n-tech  because that was HIS defense
  6602. 2016-01-21 13:06:19     n-tech  when the allegation was first presented he made his own defense on a YouTube video
  6603. 2016-01-21 13:06:19     copypaste       you still didn't write how you'd defend him
  6604. 2016-01-21 13:06:28     n-tech  I'd make Amber look stupid
  6605. 2016-01-21 13:06:35     n-tech  I would ridicule a rape victim's testemony
  6606. 2016-01-21 13:06:44     n-tech  NATURAL BORN LAWYER SON
  6607. 2016-01-21 13:06:59     copypaste       didn't the defense attorney do that? i read that in the report, that the lawyer specifically said that she couldn't keep her story straight
  6608. 2016-01-21 13:07:09     copypaste       that's making her look dumb. most likely he went through all the wayas it differed
  6609. 2016-01-21 13:07:17     copypaste       and the prosecution countered that she "remembered the important stuff"
  6610. 2016-01-21 13:07:25     copypaste       so he did that. what else would you do that the defense did not?
  6611. 2016-01-21 13:07:32     n-tech  Yeah, they hit some good notes
  6612. 2016-01-21 13:07:48     n-tech  but they shouldn't have presented the fetish stuff at all
  6613. 2016-01-21 13:08:02     n-tech  the "if it's not shit you must acquitt" defense is the biggest suicide I've ever seen in a court ever
  6614. 2016-01-21 13:08:07     n-tech  you are throwing away your freedom
  6615. 2016-01-21 13:08:27     n-tech  but again, if Nick specifically instructed them to go that route
  6616. 2016-01-21 13:08:29     n-tech  then it's on him
  6617. 2016-01-21 13:08:32     n-tech  which it very well may be
  6618. 2016-01-21 13:08:57     n-tech  The mother being on their side is a big one too, I'm not sure how they go about arranging testimony
  6619. 2016-01-21 13:09:14     n-tech  but she should have been a better witness and she should have pushed the "her dad is coaching her" line really hard
  6620. 2016-01-21 13:09:23     copypaste       have you ever seen a cross examination? you can't think of everything the prosecution will ask
  6621. 2016-01-21 13:09:32     n-tech  yea
  6622. 2016-01-21 13:09:37     n-tech  the other big one is the shadow of a doubt
  6623. 2016-01-21 13:09:55     n-tech  remind the jury that the only way you can return a guilty verdict is if it's beyond a shadow of a doubt that the person is actually guilty
  6624. 2016-01-21 13:10:01     n-tech  Say that everything presented is circumstantial
  6625. 2016-01-21 13:10:04     n-tech  or heresay
  6626. 2016-01-21 13:10:13     copypaste       chat logs he admitted to writing are not circumstantial
  6627. 2016-01-21 13:10:21     copypaste       i think i'd like to become a prosecutor if you'd be the defense attorney
  6628. 2016-01-21 13:10:24     copypaste       it's way more fun and i'm good at it
  6629. 2016-01-21 13:10:36     n-tech  you'd probably be good at it
  6630. 2016-01-21 13:10:40     copypaste       you basically get to call people dicks all the time
  6631. 2016-01-21 13:10:42     copypaste       i'm good at that
  6632. 2016-01-21 13:10:48     copypaste       i'd love prosecuting niggers all day
  6633. 2016-01-21 13:10:50     copypaste       what a fun job
  6634. 2016-01-21 13:10:51     n-tech  my aunt is a prosecuting attorney
  6635. 2016-01-21 13:10:53     n-tech  yea
  6636. 2016-01-21 13:10:56     n-tech  she's the same way
  6637. 2016-01-21 13:10:58     n-tech  works in Atlanta
  6638. 2016-01-21 13:11:05     n-tech  every nigger that walks through the door is guilty to her
  6639. 2016-01-21 13:11:09     n-tech  and she has a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge
  6640. 2016-01-21 13:11:11     copypaste       same to me
  6641. 2016-01-21 13:11:12     n-tech  huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge
  6642. 2016-01-21 13:11:13     n-tech  conviction rate
  6643. 2016-01-21 13:11:16     copypaste       lol
  6644. 2016-01-21 13:11:16     copypaste       nice
  6645. 2016-01-21 13:11:17     n-tech  just rubber stamps those verdicts
  6646. 2016-01-21 13:11:20     n-tech  pow pow pow into the box
  6647. 2016-01-21 13:11:23     n-tech  get outta hyeahhhh
  6648. 2016-01-21 13:11:49     n-tech  my aunt is also like you, she's quick to snap
  6649. 2016-01-21 13:11:58     n-tech  like if you say something she thinks is stupid that lawyer thing comes in
  6650. 2016-01-21 13:12:05     n-tech  she'll say something that catches you off guard
  6651. 2016-01-21 13:12:13     n-tech  she's very suspicious of people that way
  6652. 2016-01-21 13:12:25     copypaste       it's called being street smart
  6653. 2016-01-21 13:12:31     copypaste       your aunt sounds cool
  6654. 2016-01-21 13:12:42     n-tech  she's tightly wound and high strung
  6655. 2016-01-21 13:12:56     n-tech  she's good when she's got some beer in her though
  6656. 2016-01-21 13:12:58     copypaste       lol
  6657. 2016-01-21 13:12:59     n-tech  she's fun in a good mood
  6658. 2016-01-21 13:13:02     n-tech  i've always liked her
  6659. 2016-01-21 13:13:15     n-tech  but like in a bad mood she suuuuuucks
  6660. 2016-01-21 13:13:18     copypaste       that's why i am on pills all the time, i am a real dick sober
  6661. 2016-01-21 13:13:27     copypaste       you don't want to cross me
  6662. 2016-01-21 13:13:30     n-tech  my uncle is a fucking bro tho
  6663. 2016-01-21 13:13:39     n-tech  he is the human embodiment of calm
  6664. 2016-01-21 13:13:42     copypaste       you have such a big family
  6665. 2016-01-21 13:13:43     n-tech  he has one tone, literally one tone voice
  6666. 2016-01-21 13:13:46     copypaste       it's nice, like mochi
  6667. 2016-01-21 13:13:51     n-tech  not really, it's pretty small
  6668. 2016-01-21 13:13:55     n-tech  Here's my entire family:
  6669. 2016-01-21 13:14:15     n-tech  Maternal grandfather, maternal grandmother, mom, uncle, aunt, aunt's husband, their daughter and son (cousins)
  6670. 2016-01-21 13:14:27     n-tech  that's it
  6671. 2016-01-21 13:14:32     copypaste       oh yeah not that big
  6672. 2016-01-21 13:14:46     n-tech  my uncle is married and has a kid but I do not know them well at all
  6673. 2016-01-21 13:14:52     n-tech  and my family is big but I don't know many of them
  6674. 2016-01-21 13:14:55     n-tech  I'm not sociable
  6675. 2016-01-21 13:15:00     n-tech  but my aunt's family has always been around
  6676. 2016-01-21 13:15:03     n-tech  i grew up close with them
  6677. 2016-01-21 13:15:08     n-tech  they're as close as family gets to me
  6678. 2016-01-21 13:15:15     copypaste       for me the living ones are just my mom, brother, my mom's sister (dying of cancer), my dad's father and my dad's sister
  6679. 2016-01-21 13:15:20     copypaste       would list my dad but we've been estranged for years
  6680. 2016-01-21 13:15:27     n-tech  When I need something they're there, because even though I'm very estranged and weird and kind of noticeably off
  6681. 2016-01-21 13:15:32     n-tech  I never call in favors and do my own thing
  6682. 2016-01-21 13:15:38     n-tech  so when I need help there's tons of good will floating around
  6683. 2016-01-21 13:15:44     copypaste       yes same for me
  6684. 2016-01-21 13:15:51     copypaste       that's always nice
  6685. 2016-01-21 13:15:56     n-tech  ye
  6686. 2016-01-21 13:16:01     n-tech  see that's something a lot of people don't have
  6687. 2016-01-21 13:16:07     n-tech  my family is dramatic but stable
  6688. 2016-01-21 13:16:16     n-tech  very stable, we don't have anyone i know who is real close to us
  6689. 2016-01-21 13:16:19     n-tech  who is just a complete fuckup
  6690. 2016-01-21 13:16:27     n-tech  like i'm probably the closest thing, my mom too
  6691. 2016-01-21 13:16:28     n-tech  we're the black sheep
  6692. 2016-01-21 13:16:57     n-tech  my mom has this weird thing where she only dates white niggers
  6693. 2016-01-21 13:17:03     n-tech  nigger being someone who's uneducated and unproductive
  6694. 2016-01-21 13:17:09     n-tech  she takes care of older men who are losers
  6695. 2016-01-21 13:17:11     n-tech  I hate that shit
  6696. 2016-01-21 13:17:21     n-tech  they burn down her house and she just finds one who's crippled that she could probably beat up
  6697. 2016-01-21 13:17:30     n-tech  like nigga god damn get a cat
  6698. 2016-01-21 13:17:32     n-tech  another one
  6699. 2016-01-21 13:17:34     n-tech  your third one
  6700. 2016-01-21 13:17:35     n-tech  stop dating losers
  6701. 2016-01-21 13:18:16     copypaste       the black sheep in my family would be my brother
  6702. 2016-01-21 13:18:22     copypaste       i never talk about him and am not about to start
  6703. 2016-01-21 13:18:23     copypaste       sorry
  6704. 2016-01-21 13:18:37     n-tech  you've talked about him a lot, but there's never anything to say
  6705. 2016-01-21 13:18:43     n-tech  it's just "he does nothing"
  6706. 2016-01-21 13:18:48     n-tech  i don't thnk there's anything to add
  6707. 2016-01-21 13:20:42     copypaste       lol
  6708. 2016-01-21 13:20:49     copypaste       yeah there's nothing more to say
  6709. 2016-01-21 13:20:51     copypaste       it's sad
  6710. 2016-01-21 13:21:02     copypaste       oh i have sometihng
  6711. 2016-01-21 13:21:07     n-tech  it must suck for him to play games tho
  6712. 2016-01-21 13:21:12     n-tech  cuz you guys have like, midget voices
  6713. 2016-01-21 13:21:14     n-tech  so people know
  6714. 2016-01-21 13:21:18     copypaste       he posted a picture of his ceiling on facebook and made an ms paint line between some points on it
  6715. 2016-01-21 13:21:19     n-tech  they probably think he uses a voice synth
  6716. 2016-01-21 13:21:26     copypaste       and said "woah this looks like a dude"
  6717. 2016-01-21 13:21:36     copypaste       or something
  6718. 2016-01-21 13:21:37     n-tech  did it look like a dude
  6719. 2016-01-21 13:21:46     copypaste       i couldn't see it but i still "liked" it
  6720. 2016-01-21 13:21:50     copypaste       since he rarely ever says anything
  6721. 2016-01-21 13:21:51     copypaste       lol
  6722. 2016-01-21 13:21:52     n-tech  lololol
  6723. 2016-01-21 13:22:08     copypaste       i swear he's not retarded though
  6724. 2016-01-21 13:22:10     copypaste       he's just "off"
  6725. 2016-01-21 13:22:14     copypaste       that's what my mom always says
  6726. 2016-01-21 13:22:17     copypaste       like turned off
  6727. 2016-01-21 13:22:22     n-tech  dude he sounds bored
  6728. 2016-01-21 13:22:27     n-tech  you sit inside all the time
  6729. 2016-01-21 13:22:31     n-tech  and then you look up and you're like
  6730. 2016-01-21 13:22:40     n-tech  woah those specks look like a stickfigure
  6731. 2016-01-21 13:22:43     n-tech  so you post it
  6732. 2016-01-21 13:23:49     copypaste       my mom doesn't hold him indoors you know, he's allowed to leave
  6733. 2016-01-21 13:23:56     copypaste       he just doesn't and has never said "i want to do this"
  6734. 2016-01-21 13:24:23     n-tech  sounds like me
  6735. 2016-01-21 13:24:31     copypaste       he also has been going to the local community college, i told you they blew his money on crap
  6736. 2016-01-21 13:24:34     n-tech  i just go where the wind takes me
  6737. 2016-01-21 13:24:35     n-tech  wooooosh
  6738. 2016-01-21 13:24:37     copypaste       that was supposed to be for books
  6739. 2016-01-21 13:24:42     copypaste       ididn't i tel you that
  6740. 2016-01-21 13:24:46     n-tech  no lol
  6741. 2016-01-21 13:24:48     n-tech  you didn't
  6742. 2016-01-21 13:24:49     copypaste       my mom was excitedly telling me about the shit they bought with it
  6743. 2016-01-21 13:24:50     copypaste       oh ok
  6744. 2016-01-21 13:24:54     n-tech  i didn't realize you could spend that money on other stuff
  6745. 2016-01-21 13:25:00     n-tech  i thought you like
  6746. 2016-01-21 13:25:00     copypaste       they gave them a check
  6747. 2016-01-21 13:25:03     copypaste       you're probably not allowed to
  6748. 2016-01-21 13:25:05     n-tech  wowzers
  6749. 2016-01-21 13:25:08     n-tech  yea prolly not
  6750. 2016-01-21 13:25:12     n-tech  like i thought you had to upfront it
  6751. 2016-01-21 13:25:16     n-tech  and then send in receipts
  6752. 2016-01-21 13:25:26     copypaste       he's studying for a job he'll never be able to do, teaching
  6753. 2016-01-21 13:25:32     copypaste       "just to get him out of the house sometimes"
  6754. 2016-01-21 13:25:39     copypaste       it also sounds like he's been skipping most of the classes
  6755. 2016-01-21 13:25:42     copypaste       he got it for free
  6756. 2016-01-21 13:25:42     n-tech  welllll like
  6757. 2016-01-21 13:25:48     n-tech  okay lets say you got bored of being a programmer website dude
  6758. 2016-01-21 13:25:50     n-tech  if you knew how to teach
  6759. 2016-01-21 13:25:54     n-tech  you could get online teaching jobs easy
  6760. 2016-01-21 13:25:56     n-tech  especially with language
  6761. 2016-01-21 13:25:59     copypaste       "online teaching jobs"
  6762. 2016-01-21 13:26:03     copypaste       those exist?
  6763. 2016-01-21 13:26:03     n-tech  rosetta stone employs language teachers
  6764. 2016-01-21 13:26:08     n-tech  .. yeah dude
  6765. 2016-01-21 13:26:10     copypaste       oh, hmm
  6766. 2016-01-21 13:26:11     n-tech  when i got expelled in 10th grade
  6767. 2016-01-21 13:26:14     n-tech  i took all my classes online
  6768. 2016-01-21 13:26:17     copypaste       i guess so, i could teach spanish to people
  6769. 2016-01-21 13:26:19     n-tech  I had to call my spanish teacher to do lines with her
  6770. 2016-01-21 13:26:21     copypaste       you want to learn ( ≖‿≖)
  6771. 2016-01-21 13:26:26     n-tech  no i fucking hate spanish
  6772. 2016-01-21 13:26:31     n-tech  no me gusta espanol puta
  6773. 2016-01-21 13:26:37     copypaste       yeah so does my brother lol, we had the same aide and situation
  6774. 2016-01-21 13:26:40     copypaste       i speak spanish fluently
  6775. 2016-01-21 13:26:41     copypaste       he speaks none
  6776. 2016-01-21 13:26:46     n-tech  oh wow
  6777. 2016-01-21 13:27:03     n-tech  I wish I was better with language
  6778. 2016-01-21 13:27:08     n-tech  it feels so uniquely american to only speak English
  6779. 2016-01-21 13:27:10     n-tech  how pitiful
  6780. 2016-01-21 13:27:11     copypaste       did you see that video i translated
  6781. 2016-01-21 13:27:16     n-tech  nah
  6782. 2016-01-21 13:27:18     copypaste       it's funny watch it
  6783. 2016-01-21 13:27:30     n-tech  i saw your 2ch post
  6784. 2016-01-21 13:27:36     copypaste       which one
  6785. 2016-01-21 13:27:42     n-tech  te oekaki one
  6786. 2016-01-21 13:27:50     copypaste       oh here watch this
  6787. 2016-01-21 13:27:53     copypaste       i subbed it over a few ohurs
  6788. 2016-01-21 13:27:55     copypaste       https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIZ91FKh0jc&feature=gp-n-y&google_comment_id=z12qcriy5yngh5pgl04cdvojtp30ebhrpro0k
  6789. 2016-01-21 13:27:57     copypaste       it's supper hilarious
  6790. 2016-01-21 13:30:10     n-tech  the animation is cute
  6791. 2016-01-21 13:30:16     copypaste       i did it in anime sub style as well, so there's karaoke during song sequences
  6792. 2016-01-21 13:30:19     copypaste       the video has 3
  6793. 2016-01-21 13:31:13     n-tech  is this kid going to commit war crimes
  6794. 2016-01-21 13:31:14     n-tech  i sure hope so
  6795. 2016-01-21 13:31:28     copypaste       basically
  6796. 2016-01-21 13:33:47     n-tech  it only has 3000 people on it
  6797. 2016-01-21 13:34:00     n-tech  it probably took more than 3000 people to publish this video
  6798. 2016-01-21 13:48:14     n-tech  I've done nothing productive all week and I feel shit for it
  6799. 2016-01-21 13:48:40     n-tech  then again i probably needed another break
  6800. 2016-01-21 13:48:45     copypaste       probably
  6801. 2016-01-21 13:48:49     copypaste       what do you think of this video
  6802. 2016-01-21 13:48:52     copypaste       over the top isn't it
  6803. 2016-01-21 13:48:55     n-tech  informative
  6804. 2016-01-21 13:48:59     copypaste       especially the first song, that was the most fun to translate
  6805. 2016-01-21 13:49:00     n-tech  i now hate the british empire
  6806. 2016-01-21 13:52:18     copypaste       i side with the brits on this one
  6807. 2016-01-21 13:52:33     n-tech  well it's what the islanders decided
  6808. 2016-01-21 13:52:37     n-tech  so that's what makes sense
  6809. 2016-01-21 13:52:45     copypaste       yeah but they still are super butthurt about it
  6810. 2016-01-21 13:52:45     n-tech  it's a small nothing island and the people are british loyalists
  6811. 2016-01-21 13:52:47     n-tech  so whatever
  6812. 2016-01-21 13:52:48     n-tech  ye
  6813. 2016-01-21 13:52:50     copypaste       their last president especially
  6814. 2016-01-21 13:52:54     copypaste       demanded it back constantly at the UN
  6815. 2016-01-21 13:52:56     n-tech  i now understand why people meme on argentina about the islands
  6816. 2016-01-21 13:52:59     copypaste       lol
  6817. 2016-01-21 13:53:01     n-tech  i've seen posts about it before
  6818. 2016-01-21 19:43:03     copypaste       hey guess what i've got good news
  6819. 2016-01-21 19:43:17     copypaste       my mom says she thinks her mom was born in west ukraine
  6820. 2016-01-21 19:43:39     copypaste       that means, since west ukraine was part of greater hungary in the 1800's, i can get a hungarian passport and renounce us citizenship
  6821. 2016-01-21 19:43:42     copypaste       i can become hungarian
  6822. 2016-01-21 19:44:26     copypaste       i'll be happy when i don't have to pay money to that shitty country anymore
  6823. 2016-01-21 19:44:44     copypaste       and then i can tell people i'm hungarian and not be lying
  6824. 2016-01-21 19:45:04     copypaste       all i have to do is pass a written hungarian language test if my mom can send me proof of her mom being born within the borders of greater hungary
  6825. 2016-01-21 19:45:21     copypaste       since i'm good at stuff like this i'll just buy a book, get a hungarian penpal or skype m8
  6826. 2016-01-21 19:45:29     copypaste       got to hungary once i'm confident and pass the test
  6827. 2016-01-21 19:45:59     copypaste       then once i'm hungarian i can just leave again, lol
  6828. 2016-01-21 19:46:04     copypaste       what a genius plan
  6829. 2016-01-21 19:50:37     copypaste       this destroys my plan of living in argentina for 2 years or somehow making $100k for a dominican passport
  6830. 2016-01-21 19:53:19     copypaste       Ukraine (oblasts of Lviv, Ivano-Frankivsk, Ternopil (except its northern corner) and most of the oblast of Chernivtsi)
  6831. 2016-01-21 19:53:35     copypaste       this is top ebin
  6832. 2016-01-21 19:57:39     copypaste       if that doesn't pan out i maaay have to call my dad who i haven't spoken to in many years, since he always said he was irish
  6833. 2016-01-21 19:57:44     copypaste       he might hang up on me lmao
  6834. 2016-01-22 00:27:25     n-tech  lol
  6835. 2016-01-22 00:27:33     n-tech  you could do that
  6836. 2016-01-22 00:27:37     n-tech  would it inhibit your travels
  6837. 2016-01-22 00:45:59     copypaste       nope
  6838. 2016-01-22 00:46:05     copypaste       hungary is a strong passport
  6839. 2016-01-22 00:46:09     copypaste       stronger than argentina
  6840. 2016-01-22 00:46:14     copypaste       my mom says she'll find her mom's passport
  6841. 2016-01-22 00:46:20     copypaste       i'll send it to a translator
  6842. 2016-01-22 00:46:30     copypaste       my mom says it's a soviet union passport
  6843. 2016-01-22 00:46:34     copypaste       this is exciting
  6844. 2016-01-22 00:46:48     n-tech  should be obvious if its USSR
  6845. 2016-01-22 00:46:57     copypaste       no because not all of ukraine is covered
  6846. 2016-01-22 00:46:58     n-tech  it'll have their icon with the hammer, sickle, and wheat
  6847. 2016-01-22 00:47:00     copypaste       it matters where in ukraine
  6848. 2016-01-22 00:47:01     n-tech  ah
  6849. 2016-01-22 00:47:17     copypaste       the pic she sent looks like this
  6850. 2016-01-22 00:47:18     copypaste       https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikinews/en/6/60/USSR_pass.jpg
  6851. 2016-01-22 00:47:23     copypaste       dank amirite
  6852. 2016-01-22 00:47:41     n-tech  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U06jlgpMtQs
  6853. 2016-01-22 00:47:55     copypaste       do you like the USSR
  6854. 2016-01-22 00:47:59     copypaste       my mom hates them
  6855. 2016-01-22 00:48:01     copypaste       so did her mother btw
  6856. 2016-01-22 00:48:06     n-tech  I have an affinity for communist music
  6857. 2016-01-22 00:48:13     copypaste       i mean, stalin starved ukraine
  6858. 2016-01-22 00:48:18     copypaste       you might know tihs, it's called the holodomor
  6859. 2016-01-22 00:48:21     copypaste       more people died than in the holocaust
  6860. 2016-01-22 00:48:22     n-tech  ye all the communist leaders were horrible pricks
  6861. 2016-01-22 00:48:24     copypaste       yeah
  6862. 2016-01-22 00:48:31     n-tech  more people died in Mao's reign than by Stalin IIRC
  6863. 2016-01-22 00:48:33     copypaste       the holodomor happened in ukraine
  6864. 2016-01-22 00:48:36     copypaste       yeah
  6865. 2016-01-22 00:48:39     n-tech  Mao was a sociopath, there's no other way to put it
  6866. 2016-01-22 00:48:41     n-tech  but he saved China
  6867. 2016-01-22 00:48:43     copypaste       it goes mao > stalin > hitler
  6868. 2016-01-22 00:48:57     copypaste       chinese people still revere mao
  6869. 2016-01-22 00:49:01     copypaste       like remember chloe?
  6870. 2016-01-22 00:49:07     n-tech  yea, but he did save China
  6871. 2016-01-22 00:49:10     n-tech  After WW2, China owned a tremendous amount of money to Russia
  6872. 2016-01-22 00:49:11     copypaste       chloe will defend mao
  6873. 2016-01-22 00:49:13     copypaste       he dindu nuffin
  6874. 2016-01-22 00:49:17     copypaste       i've talked to her about it before
  6875. 2016-01-22 00:49:27     copypaste       chloe also can sing along to communist songs
  6876. 2016-01-22 00:49:29     n-tech  and the Soviet officials ridiculed China and said that they'd never be able to pay them back
  6877. 2016-01-22 00:49:29     copypaste       like that one i showed you
  6878. 2016-01-22 00:49:36     n-tech  so Mao's reaction was
  6879. 2016-01-22 00:49:39     copypaste       meiyou gongchandang jiu meiyou zhin zhongguo that one
  6880. 2016-01-22 00:49:41     n-tech  he put everyone on uber tight rations
  6881. 2016-01-22 00:49:48     n-tech  and put all production of the entire country for like a decade
  6882. 2016-01-22 00:49:52     n-tech  to paying back the Soviets
  6883. 2016-01-22 00:49:57     n-tech  tons of people died but he accomplished this
  6884. 2016-01-22 00:50:09     n-tech  now China has a massive surplus and is one of the most robust economies on the planet
  6885. 2016-01-22 00:50:30     copypaste       hmm
  6886. 2016-01-22 00:50:30     n-tech  It has like, 8 times as much money in savings as it does in debt
  6887. 2016-01-22 00:50:35     copypaste       i don't understand how that saved them tho...
  6888. 2016-01-22 00:50:39     copypaste       savings/debt's not everything
  6889. 2016-01-22 00:50:44     copypaste       how did he build industry from 0?
  6890. 2016-01-22 00:50:49     n-tech  he didn't
  6891. 2016-01-22 00:50:51     copypaste       how did he make them literate?
  6892. 2016-01-22 00:50:55     n-tech  that was Deng Xiaoping
  6893. 2016-01-22 00:50:58     copypaste       is chloe making this shit up?
  6894. 2016-01-22 00:51:02     copypaste       i didn't actually study this stuff
  6895. 2016-01-22 00:51:16     n-tech  perhaps. Deng Xiaoping was the capitalist reformer.
  6896. 2016-01-22 00:51:29     copypaste       she says before mao no cinese people could read and also mao turned china from being farmers into being super cool gods with tanks and hydroelectric dams
  6897. 2016-01-22 00:51:29     n-tech  He made China into the mega capitalistic society it is today
  6898. 2016-01-22 00:51:48     copypaste       she also said that mao invented the chinese language, but ron corrected her and said he invented simplified chinese
  6899. 2016-01-22 00:51:50     n-tech  It's possible he did. All he'd have to do is make public schooling.
  6900. 2016-01-22 00:51:53     copypaste       she loves mao lol
  6901. 2016-01-22 00:51:55     n-tech  Public education is extraordianrily important
  6902. 2016-01-22 00:51:59     n-tech  and that didn't happen before WW2
  6903. 2016-01-22 00:52:04     n-tech  China was a collection of like, feudal tribes
  6904. 2016-01-22 00:52:14     n-tech  and then the Communist revolution happened and it started to industrialize
  6905. 2016-01-22 00:52:18     copypaste       is that why tihs place is so fucked up?
  6906. 2016-01-22 00:52:21     copypaste       most kids here don't go to school
  6907. 2016-01-22 00:52:22     copypaste       wow
  6908. 2016-01-22 00:52:25     n-tech  Yes
  6909. 2016-01-22 00:52:28     n-tech  I've told you this
  6910. 2016-01-22 00:52:29     n-tech  You got mad at me
  6911. 2016-01-22 00:52:33     copypaste       yeah but it never sank in before
  6912. 2016-01-22 00:52:35     copypaste       i think you're right now
  6913. 2016-01-22 00:52:48     n-tech  See, when I think of libertarianism
  6914. 2016-01-22 00:52:55     n-tech  I think of having the opportunity to do whatever you want
  6915. 2016-01-22 00:53:01     n-tech  but if you aren't given the opportunity to learn and be educated
  6916. 2016-01-22 00:53:04     n-tech  you don't really have any options
  6917. 2016-01-22 00:53:11     n-tech  so that's why I support public education
  6918. 2016-01-22 00:53:18     copypaste       you know what. you have changed my political beliefs slightly at 1AM
  6919. 2016-01-22 00:53:25     copypaste       i think public education is an important role of government now
  6920. 2016-01-22 00:53:29     copypaste       i still think it should be privatized
  6921. 2016-01-22 00:53:32     n-tech  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwZV0vl7GiE
  6922. 2016-01-22 00:53:34     copypaste       but i think the government should give all parents a stipend
  6923. 2016-01-22 00:53:45     copypaste       of say, $10k per year that can only go to schooling
  6924. 2016-01-22 00:53:56     copypaste       and if they spend it on anything else like my fucking mom the go to jail
  6925. 2016-01-22 00:54:01     n-tech  the problem with doing that is it creates what happens with our medical system
  6926. 2016-01-22 00:54:03     copypaste       lol
  6927. 2016-01-22 00:54:10     copypaste       which is?
  6928. 2016-01-22 00:54:13     n-tech  You get $700 pills because they know they can charge that much because the government pays for it
  6929. 2016-01-22 00:54:18     copypaste       i never really got why american medicine is so fugged
  6930. 2016-01-22 00:54:21     copypaste       oh
  6931. 2016-01-22 00:54:30     copypaste       but i'm the most hurt by it
  6932. 2016-01-22 00:54:33     n-tech  Yea, the Hospitals GOUGE people
  6933. 2016-01-22 00:54:46     copypaste       not even going to lie, i've definitely experienced every bad thing in the american medical system price wise
  6934. 2016-01-22 00:54:47     n-tech  there's a reason why America is so much worse than every other country
  6935. 2016-01-22 00:54:50     copypaste       lol
  6936. 2016-01-22 00:54:51     n-tech  it really has 3 different groups
  6937. 2016-01-22 00:54:57     n-tech  1) Socialized medicine, which works
  6938. 2016-01-22 00:55:02     n-tech  2) Privatized medicine like here, which works
  6939. 2016-01-22 00:55:15     n-tech  3) Privatized compensated medicine which is basically only in the US which works for nobody except the megacorps
  6940. 2016-01-22 00:55:21     n-tech  Healthcare America or the insurance companies
  6941. 2016-01-22 00:55:41     n-tech  I told you this in Japan, I'm really fond of this quote
  6942. 2016-01-22 00:55:58     n-tech  Deng Xiaoping, the capitalist chairman who reformed China, was questioned on what he was doing. Why he was bleeding Red China white
  6943. 2016-01-22 00:56:02     copypaste       i see the best pain doctor in this whole country for $50/month. he was in singapore giving a speech about pain medicine. i thought he was making it up like filipinos do but i saw the vid on youtube
  6944. 2016-01-22 00:56:09     copypaste       do you have any idea how much a visit to him would cost in the SU
  6945. 2016-01-22 00:56:10     n-tech  and he responded with, "It does not matter if a cat is white or black, as long as it catches mice"
  6946. 2016-01-22 00:56:13     copypaste       i don't even want to think about it
  6947. 2016-01-22 00:56:18     n-tech  I don't care how a society works but it has to serve its people. It just gotta work.
  6948. 2016-01-22 00:56:20     n-tech  America doesn't work.
  6949. 2016-01-22 00:56:21     copypaste       lol
  6950. 2016-01-22 00:56:39     n-tech  Deng was of the opinion that pure communism doesn't work
  6951. 2016-01-22 00:56:42     n-tech  China is still communist
  6952. 2016-01-22 00:56:44     copypaste       when i brought mochi for a huge infected mass on her back, the appointment costed us
  6953. 2016-01-22 00:56:44     n-tech  But only at the top
  6954. 2016-01-22 00:56:46     copypaste       guess how much
  6955. 2016-01-22 00:56:48     copypaste       no insurance
  6956. 2016-01-22 00:56:54     n-tech  uhh, probably 3k
  6957. 2016-01-22 00:56:55     n-tech  php
  6958. 2016-01-22 00:56:57     copypaste       this was just a regular GP
  6959. 2016-01-22 00:56:58     copypaste       no
  6960. 2016-01-22 00:57:00     copypaste       500 pesos
  6961. 2016-01-22 00:57:12     n-tech  to remove it?
  6962. 2016-01-22 00:57:19     copypaste       to diagnose and remove it
  6963. 2016-01-22 00:57:25     n-tech  impressive
  6964. 2016-01-22 00:57:29     copypaste       and write a prescription for antibiotics
  6965. 2016-01-22 00:57:32     n-tech  that's still a lot to them though
  6966. 2016-01-22 00:57:36     copypaste       the antibiotics were separate though
  6967. 2016-01-22 00:58:04     copypaste       yeah, and if you have to see specialists it's not even that much more expensive. i pay 2500 pesos to see the head of anesthesiology (lmao)
  6968. 2016-01-22 00:58:09     copypaste       he's a nice guy really
  6969. 2016-01-22 00:58:15     n-tech  ye
  6970. 2016-01-22 00:58:18     n-tech  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmI2yDAyWYI
  6971. 2016-01-22 00:58:19     copypaste       hes the smartest pinoy i know
  6972. 2016-01-22 00:58:20     n-tech  This is NK music btw
  6973. 2016-01-22 00:58:22     copypaste       he's smarter than me definitely
  6974. 2016-01-22 00:58:25     n-tech  I think I've touched on this
  6975. 2016-01-22 00:58:30     n-tech  but it's interesting
  6976. 2016-01-22 00:58:34     copypaste       wow they have music?
  6977. 2016-01-22 00:58:39     n-tech  of course
  6978. 2016-01-22 00:58:40     copypaste       i guess that's not surprising
  6979. 2016-01-22 00:58:41     copypaste       lol
  6980. 2016-01-22 00:58:42     copypaste       sorry
  6981. 2016-01-22 00:58:45     n-tech  NK's major output is the arts mate
  6982. 2016-01-22 00:58:47     n-tech  They have huge shows
  6983. 2016-01-22 00:58:49     copypaste       i just think of that country as a blank space
  6984. 2016-01-22 00:58:52     copypaste       with 0
  6985. 2016-01-22 00:58:52     n-tech  There's a big famous one in Pyongyang
  6986. 2016-01-22 00:58:56     n-tech  like, the day of the sun
  6987. 2016-01-22 00:59:04     n-tech  to celebrate Kim Il-Sung
  6988. 2016-01-22 00:59:05     copypaste       are we gonna go on a tour there together?
  6989. 2016-01-22 00:59:09     copypaste       they might not let me go
  6990. 2016-01-22 00:59:12     n-tech  too expensive, maybe if we get money
  6991. 2016-01-22 00:59:14     copypaste       i bet everywhere has stairs
  6992. 2016-01-22 00:59:18     n-tech  ahh maybe
  6993. 2016-01-22 00:59:19     copypaste       they murder cripples there
  6994. 2016-01-22 00:59:21     copypaste       yeah
  6995. 2016-01-22 00:59:22     n-tech  it would be difficult
  6996. 2016-01-22 00:59:32     copypaste       although...i just hired a huge lady
  6997. 2016-01-22 00:59:32     n-tech  but Soviet and NK music is both all men
  6998. 2016-01-22 00:59:35     copypaste       she's 5'7"
  6999. 2016-01-22 00:59:42     n-tech  there's a word for it, I'm not sure what it is
  7000. 2016-01-22 00:59:48     n-tech  in China, like in that song I showed you
  7001. 2016-01-22 00:59:48     copypaste       she could lift you maybe
  7002. 2016-01-22 00:59:49     n-tech  there's women
  7003. 2016-01-22 00:59:50     copypaste       ok maybe not
  7004. 2016-01-22 00:59:50     copypaste       lol
  7005. 2016-01-22 01:00:00     copypaste       so she could carry me around
  7006. 2016-01-22 01:00:10     n-tech  yeah you keep saying like, all these little pinoy women can beat my ass
  7007. 2016-01-22 01:00:13     copypaste       when i was interviewing, an interview question is if you can put me on the floor and back in the chair
  7008. 2016-01-22 01:00:25     copypaste       yes this is an interview question and legal;
  7009. 2016-01-22 01:00:27     copypaste       welcome to philippines
  7010. 2016-01-22 01:00:27     copypaste       lol
  7011. 2016-01-22 01:00:34     n-tech  i'm sure it's legal in america too
  7012. 2016-01-22 01:00:44     copypaste       it's not, the law is 40 lbs
  7013. 2016-01-22 01:00:47     copypaste       in NY at least
  7014. 2016-01-22 01:00:52     n-tech  well NY is kind of a shithole
  7015. 2016-01-22 01:00:54     copypaste       after that u need 2 people
  7016. 2016-01-22 01:00:56     n-tech  it's like not asking a warehouse employee if they can lift a box
  7017. 2016-01-22 01:00:58     copypaste       fuck that place, fucking america is so shitty
  7018. 2016-01-22 01:01:21     copypaste       i really, before i die i want to become a citizen of somewhere else just so i can not die an american
  7019. 2016-01-22 01:01:27     copypaste       i don't want that country on my grave
  7020. 2016-01-22 01:01:45     copypaste       i feel like they are the modern day evil empire
  7021. 2016-01-22 01:01:59     copypaste       i just, i hate it
  7022. 2016-01-22 01:02:27     copypaste       there are plenty of cool people there mind
  7023. 2016-01-22 01:02:34     copypaste       i love my hometown and my family and the park i grew up in
  7024. 2016-01-22 01:02:37     copypaste       but i hate the government
  7025. 2016-01-22 01:02:43     copypaste       so much
  7026. 2016-01-22 01:03:02     n-tech  yeah there are no redeeming qualities to the US anymore
  7027. 2016-01-22 01:03:09     copypaste       that i feel like sending tax money is directly killing people
  7028. 2016-01-22 01:03:09     n-tech  that's why I worry about the girl
  7029. 2016-01-22 01:03:15     copypaste       in prison, in wars
  7030. 2016-01-22 01:03:15     n-tech  i hope she gets out of the military after 5 or 10 years
  7031. 2016-01-22 01:03:19     copypaste       it upsets me
  7032. 2016-01-22 01:03:24     n-tech  because if she's there in 20 she will be killed by the Chinese I'm pretty sure
  7033. 2016-01-22 01:03:37     copypaste       RIP ;_;
  7034. 2016-01-22 01:03:44     copypaste       if china took over america i would learn mandarin
  7035. 2016-01-22 01:03:49     copypaste       i would accept chinese rule
  7036. 2016-01-22 01:03:55     copypaste       100% srs
  7037. 2016-01-22 01:04:02     n-tech  I would too, they don't fuck with you on a low level
  7038. 2016-01-22 01:04:24     n-tech  China is a communist country but only really on the megacorp level
  7039. 2016-01-22 01:04:34     n-tech  American businesses try to bully their way in and China goes no
  7040. 2016-01-22 01:04:37     n-tech  you're not welcome
  7041. 2016-01-22 01:04:46     n-tech  so they make their own google, own it by the state, and have it managed by a party loyalist
  7042. 2016-01-22 01:04:59     n-tech  the state takes most of the profit
  7043. 2016-01-22 01:05:02     n-tech  that's why they have so much money
  7044. 2016-01-22 01:05:14     n-tech  imagine if like, the MPAA and all the military industrial complexes belonged directly to the US
  7045. 2016-01-22 01:05:17     n-tech  america would have insane money
  7046. 2016-01-22 01:05:31     n-tech  but none of those entities even pay taxes
  7047. 2016-01-22 01:05:34     n-tech  so america has no money
  7048. 2016-01-22 01:06:10     n-tech  and people say, America spends 50% of its GDP on the military
  7049. 2016-01-22 01:06:24     n-tech  but it also spends 50% of its GDP on like, social services, and social security, each
  7050. 2016-01-22 01:06:28     n-tech  america spends like 200% of its GDP
  7051. 2016-01-22 01:07:44     copypaste       they're hardcore bullying MS right now it's hiarlious
  7052. 2016-01-22 01:07:49     copypaste       they're trying to bully MS into more XP support
  7053. 2016-01-22 01:07:54     copypaste       or they kick them out and use ubuntu or sometihng
  7054. 2016-01-22 01:08:16     n-tech  if they lose the government contracts that's it for ms
  7055. 2016-01-22 01:08:20     copypaste       a wine dev wrote on some ml that he thinks the chinese government is contacting him through a proxy
  7056. 2016-01-22 01:08:25     copypaste       you know what wine is right
  7057. 2016-01-22 01:08:25     n-tech  I'd love to see Ubuntu Kylin take over in China
  7058. 2016-01-22 01:08:28     n-tech  that would be amazing
  7059. 2016-01-22 01:08:29     n-tech  yes
  7060. 2016-01-22 01:08:31     copypaste       yeah
  7061. 2016-01-22 01:08:34     copypaste       if China backs wine
  7062. 2016-01-22 01:08:37     copypaste       lol MS is so fucked
  7063. 2016-01-22 01:09:42     copypaste       but yeah he could be joking, i can't find it again
  7064. 2016-01-22 01:09:46     copypaste       i read lots of open sourece mailling lists
  7065. 2016-01-22 01:10:07     copypaste       because like, Wine is already super good at legacy apps
  7066. 2016-01-22 01:10:22     copypaste       it has some trouble with 16-bit applications
  7067. 2016-01-22 01:10:35     copypaste       but it has nailed most of the 32 bit APIs
  7068. 2016-01-22 01:10:40     copypaste       all the important ones
  7069. 2016-01-22 01:11:10     n-tech  I wish I was important enough to have the Chinese government contact me
  7070. 2016-01-22 01:11:22     n-tech  fuck that I'd move over and learn Mandarin and do whatever and take the money and sing communist songs
  7071. 2016-01-22 01:11:25     copypaste       well this is directly in their interest
  7072. 2016-01-22 01:11:29     copypaste       did you know how wine is legal?
  7073. 2016-01-22 01:11:33     copypaste       it's a super interesting program
  7074. 2016-01-22 01:11:35     n-tech  sounds a hell of a lot more fun than working for America
  7075. 2016-01-22 01:11:41     copypaste       lol
  7076. 2016-01-22 01:11:45     copypaste       ok here's what i think you should do
  7077. 2016-01-22 01:11:46     n-tech  no, I don't. I assume it's just because Wine doesn't actually use any MS code.
  7078. 2016-01-22 01:11:53     copypaste       i thought you'd be mad at me if i said this so
  7079. 2016-01-22 01:11:55     copypaste       but i'mr isking it
  7080. 2016-01-22 01:12:04     copypaste       you should totally dress up like that black dude who does the communist songs
  7081. 2016-01-22 01:12:08     copypaste       after you learn chinese
  7082. 2016-01-22 01:12:12     copypaste       and put them on YT
  7083. 2016-01-22 01:12:16     copypaste       i want you to become brother hao
  7084. 2016-01-22 01:12:19     n-tech  lol, someone already does that
  7085. 2016-01-22 01:12:21     n-tech  his name is ADF
  7086. 2016-01-22 01:12:23     copypaste       who?
  7087. 2016-01-22 01:12:26     copypaste       who ?
  7088. 2016-01-22 01:12:48     n-tech  http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6116/6356098185_f4a83b4911_o.jpg
  7089. 2016-01-22 01:13:11     copypaste       ok but not in a spergy way
  7090. 2016-01-22 01:13:13     n-tech  I told ADF I'd lock his subforum for a week if he sang Socialism is Good
  7091. 2016-01-22 01:13:14     copypaste       jesus christ that picture lol
  7092. 2016-01-22 01:13:23     copypaste       did he do it?
  7093. 2016-01-22 01:13:28     n-tech  no, that little bitch
  7094. 2016-01-22 01:13:30     copypaste       lol
  7095. 2016-01-22 01:13:45     copypaste       woah that dude has a
  7096. 2016-01-22 01:13:48     copypaste       "OUT OF THE CLOSET"
  7097. 2016-01-22 01:13:49     copypaste       wristband
  7098. 2016-01-22 01:13:54     copypaste       but...he's a communist?
  7099. 2016-01-22 01:14:01     copypaste       i guess it's not totally contradictory...maybe?
  7100. 2016-01-22 01:14:02     n-tech  okay his thing is a bit weird
  7101. 2016-01-22 01:14:11     copypaste       the USSR was super family oriented though
  7102. 2016-01-22 01:14:14     copypaste       i don't know if you know that
  7103. 2016-01-22 01:14:19     n-tech  ADF is an east coast Maoist who moved to the west coast after physically assaulting his crippled mother
  7104. 2016-01-22 01:14:20     copypaste       that's why russia still hates gays so much
  7105. 2016-01-22 01:14:40     n-tech  He is a non-passing transwomyn and trans-latinx (latina without gender identifiers)
  7106. 2016-01-22 01:14:45     n-tech  he believes he is Puerto Rican
  7107. 2016-01-22 01:14:54     copypaste       wait what
  7108. 2016-01-22 01:14:57     copypaste       does he speak spanish
  7109. 2016-01-22 01:14:59     n-tech  no
  7110. 2016-01-22 01:15:02     n-tech  very poorly
  7111. 2016-01-22 01:15:05     copypaste       lol
  7112. 2016-01-22 01:15:09     n-tech  he has really bad spanish tattoos all over his body
  7113. 2016-01-22 01:15:15     copypaste       dudewat
  7114. 2016-01-22 01:15:18     copypaste       do you have pics?
  7115. 2016-01-22 01:15:21     n-tech  his entire body is tattoed
  7116. 2016-01-22 01:15:21     copypaste       i'll know if they're right
  7117. 2016-01-22 01:15:23     n-tech  ye 1 sec
  7118. 2016-01-22 01:15:24     copypaste       ok
  7119. 2016-01-22 01:15:45     copypaste       allso this video is super ebin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2jnX2y30DE
  7120. 2016-01-22 01:15:49     copypaste       my new ringtone
  7121. 2016-01-22 01:16:28     n-tech  https://lolcow.wiki/wiki/Ahuviya_Harel
  7122. 2016-01-22 01:16:32     n-tech  wow people actually worked on this
  7123. 2016-01-22 01:16:34     n-tech  god I love my forum
  7124. 2016-01-22 01:16:49     copypaste       ☭☭☭This page, like the construction of a Maoist utopia in the United States, is very much a work in progress. Comments/criticism/high-level intel all very gratefully received.☭☭☭
  7125. 2016-01-22 01:16:50     copypaste       ok i lol'd
  7126. 2016-01-22 01:17:05     n-tech  Must be Smutley
  7127. 2016-01-22 01:17:13     copypaste       ...felipe?
  7128. 2016-01-22 01:17:15     n-tech  oh no Wolf Appreciator
  7129. 2016-01-22 01:17:21     n-tech  Definitely a jace inspired message
  7130. 2016-01-22 01:17:26     copypaste       https://lolcow.wiki/wiki/images/a/a3/Lawliet_L_Ryuzaki_by_ADF_Fuensalida.jpg
  7131. 2016-01-22 01:17:28     copypaste       felipe lol
  7132. 2016-01-22 01:17:34     copypaste       of all the puerto rican names right
  7133. 2016-01-22 01:17:36     copypaste       felipe
  7134. 2016-01-22 01:17:37     n-tech  oh his name changes constantly
  7135. 2016-01-22 01:17:38     copypaste       is what he chose
  7136. 2016-01-22 01:17:44     n-tech  right now it's uh
  7137. 2016-01-22 01:17:48     n-tech  Isabel Roja something
  7138. 2016-01-22 01:17:54     copypaste       Felipe Delicias Harel
  7139. 2016-01-22 01:18:00     n-tech  that's an old one
  7140. 2016-01-22 01:18:05     n-tech  Isabel Rosa Araujo
  7141. 2016-01-22 01:18:07     n-tech  There it is
  7142. 2016-01-22 01:18:27     copypaste       i just checked my dictionary
  7143. 2016-01-22 01:18:33     copypaste       "delicia" is an accepted form of "deliciosa"
  7144. 2016-01-22 01:18:35     copypaste       although antiquated
  7145. 2016-01-22 01:18:39     copypaste       his middle name is Delicious
  7146. 2016-01-22 01:18:42     copypaste       or at least used to be
  7147. 2016-01-22 01:18:43     copypaste       what the fuck
  7148. 2016-01-22 01:18:51     n-tech  FERGALICIOUS SO DELICIOUS MAKE THOSE BOYS GO LOCO
  7149. 2016-01-22 01:18:54     copypaste       lol
  7150. 2016-01-22 01:19:00     copypaste       stop my maids are sleeping
  7151. 2016-01-22 01:19:17     n-tech  where the fuck are the tattoo pics this article is -10/10
  7152. 2016-01-22 01:19:30     n-tech  his permanent marring of his own flesh is his most fantastic feature
  7153. 2016-01-22 01:19:34     copypaste       yee i don't see em, but all the weird shit in here makes up for it
  7154. 2016-01-22 01:19:40     copypaste       being a tacoboo is something i've never heard of
  7155. 2016-01-22 01:19:49     copypaste       don't get me wrong, i love latin american, but i'd only become one for the passport
  7156. 2016-01-22 01:19:50     n-tech  http://img12.deviantart.net/50c1/i/2015/051/5/e/e_s_c_l_a_v_a___l_a_t_i_n_a_by_mlm_ahuviya_harel_gq-d8it3l2.jpg
  7157. 2016-01-22 01:19:52     n-tech  here's some
  7158. 2016-01-22 01:19:57     n-tech  that number is his slave code
  7159. 2016-01-22 01:20:03     n-tech  he went to a BDSM website and got a slave code for himself
  7160. 2016-01-22 01:20:06     n-tech  but his master is like
  7161. 2016-01-22 01:20:08     n-tech  a fictional character
  7162. 2016-01-22 01:20:13     n-tech  so he's submissive to his own imagination
  7163. 2016-01-22 01:20:25     n-tech  http://i.imgur.com/LrKZ0WO.jpg
  7164. 2016-01-22 01:20:27     n-tech  my personal fav
  7165. 2016-01-22 01:20:28     copypaste       dude jesus jesus he tattooed his fucking lip??
  7166. 2016-01-22 01:20:34     copypaste       WAT
  7167. 2016-01-22 01:20:37     copypaste       that can be done?
  7168. 2016-01-22 01:20:40     n-tech  he tattooed everything
  7169. 2016-01-22 01:20:40     n-tech  lol
  7170. 2016-01-22 01:20:44     copypaste       yeah but
  7171. 2016-01-22 01:20:46     copypaste       inside of lip
  7172. 2016-01-22 01:20:47     copypaste       inside
  7173. 2016-01-22 01:20:51     n-tech  ye
  7174. 2016-01-22 01:20:54     n-tech  you can do your eye too
  7175. 2016-01-22 01:20:54     copypaste       wow
  7176. 2016-01-22 01:20:56     n-tech  dye the white red/blue
  7177. 2016-01-22 01:20:59     copypaste       god that's gross
  7178. 2016-01-22 01:21:03     n-tech  http://img09.deviantart.net/2ab8/i/2014/276/7/3/p_r_o_n_o_m_b_r_e_s___b_i_l_i_n_g_u_e_s_by_mlm_ahuviya_harel_gq-d81h0ae.jpg
  7179. 2016-01-22 01:21:07     n-tech  his pronouns
  7180. 2016-01-22 01:21:32     n-tech  http://img12.deviantart.net/1e28/i/2014/275/c/b/3_july_2014___tattoos_by_mlm_ahuviya_harel_gq-d81brff.jpg
  7181. 2016-01-22 01:21:38     n-tech  http://orig13.deviantart.net/c2dc/f/2014/276/0/1/c_o_n_s_e_n_t_by_mlm_ahuviya_harel_gq-d81h0ub.jpg
  7182. 2016-01-22 01:21:48     copypaste       that pic is weird because ``ellas'' is a very uncommon word in spanish due to its grammar rules
  7183. 2016-01-22 01:21:48     n-tech  http://orig15.deviantart.net/b981/f/2014/275/d/b/5_august_2014___woman_on_bicycle_by_mlm_ahuviya_harel_gq-d81btm2.jpg
  7184. 2016-01-22 01:21:59     copypaste       i mean sure it happens, but rarely
  7185. 2016-01-22 01:22:04     n-tech  ye, you default to male unless talking about a group of women
  7186. 2016-01-22 01:22:09     copypaste       in spanish pronouns can be dropped, or shortened to just `la/las`
  7187. 2016-01-22 01:22:11     copypaste       for (ella/ellas)
  7188. 2016-01-22 01:22:17     n-tech  like it would explicitly be referring to a female only school's population doing something
  7189. 2016-01-22 01:22:18     n-tech  o
  7190. 2016-01-22 01:22:30     copypaste       she chose an incredibly gendered language for her identity btw
  7191. 2016-01-22 01:22:35     copypaste       everything in spanish is either male or female
  7192. 2016-01-22 01:22:36     n-tech  that last one is a good one
  7193. 2016-01-22 01:22:41     copypaste       ok sec
  7194. 2016-01-22 01:22:50     n-tech  it's just a bicycle but it's remarkable because he loves bikes
  7195. 2016-01-22 01:22:55     n-tech  and he spends all his time in his CWC ville
  7196. 2016-01-22 01:22:58     n-tech  but he draws city layouts
  7197. 2016-01-22 01:23:00     copypaste       "man hating lesbian"
  7198. 2016-01-22 01:23:02     n-tech  and draws street signs
  7199. 2016-01-22 01:23:07     copypaste       "die cis scum" (serious) wtf
  7200. 2016-01-22 01:23:08     n-tech  ye ye not that one tho
  7201. 2016-01-22 01:23:12     n-tech  http://orig15.deviantart.net/b981/f/2014/275/d/b/5_august_2014___woman_on_bicycle_by_mlm_ahuviya_harel_gq-d81btm2.jpg
  7202. 2016-01-22 01:23:17     n-tech  He draws city layouts with bike only lanes
  7203. 2016-01-22 01:23:20     n-tech  and draws tons of bikes
  7204. 2016-01-22 01:23:26     n-tech  and has drawings of himself riding bikes o his skin
  7205. 2016-01-22 01:23:30     copypaste       lol
  7206. 2016-01-22 01:23:36     copypaste       i mean, that's cool i guess. bike riding is important
  7207. 2016-01-22 01:23:38     n-tech  but, like if god was intentionally trying to write a comedy character
  7208. 2016-01-22 01:23:44     copypaste       i can't argue with that. i'd do it if i could
  7209. 2016-01-22 01:23:47     n-tech  he does not know how to ride a bicycle
  7210. 2016-01-22 01:23:49     copypaste       it's actually one of the things i wish i could do most
  7211. 2016-01-22 01:23:54     copypaste       i suually don't mind being crippled
  7212. 2016-01-22 01:23:55     copypaste       wait
  7213. 2016-01-22 01:23:56     copypaste       what?
  7214. 2016-01-22 01:24:04     n-tech  he doesn't know how to ride bikes
  7215. 2016-01-22 01:24:10     copypaste       (。 ‿°)
  7216. 2016-01-22 01:24:11     n-tech  he will literally sit next to bike racks with other people's bikes
  7217. 2016-01-22 01:24:13     copypaste       ok this dude is crazy
  7218. 2016-01-22 01:24:14     n-tech  and take selfies with them
  7219. 2016-01-22 01:24:15     copypaste       wtf
  7220. 2016-01-22 01:24:18     n-tech  but he doesn't know how to ride them
  7221. 2016-01-22 01:24:21     copypaste       it's not hard to learn man
  7222. 2016-01-22 01:24:24     copypaste       if you love them that much
  7223. 2016-01-22 01:24:27     n-tech  neither is spanish
  7224. 2016-01-22 01:24:29     n-tech  same rules
  7225. 2016-01-22 01:24:29     copypaste       you could learn in like a week
  7226. 2016-01-22 01:24:30     copypaste       lol
  7227. 2016-01-22 01:24:36     n-tech  if you really, really, really want to learn how to ride bikes and how to speak spanish
  7228. 2016-01-22 01:24:39     n-tech  you can do it in a year
  7229. 2016-01-22 01:24:47     copypaste       you could do both in the same year
  7230. 2016-01-22 01:24:50     n-tech  yea
  7231. 2016-01-22 01:24:55     copypaste       wow
  7232. 2016-01-22 01:24:58     n-tech  you can be riding your bike and listening to a book on tape
  7233. 2016-01-22 01:24:59     n-tech  about spanish
  7234. 2016-01-22 01:25:00     n-tech  lol
  7235. 2016-01-22 01:25:09     copypaste       lol
  7236. 2016-01-22 01:25:14     n-tech  https://kiwifar.ms/threads/warning-do-not-help-isabel-rosa-araujo.12102/
  7237. 2016-01-22 01:25:15     n-tech  read this
  7238. 2016-01-22 01:25:17     n-tech  he's homeless
  7239. 2016-01-22 01:25:20     n-tech  he will bum off people
  7240. 2016-01-22 01:25:27     n-tech  like, people will offer him room and board
  7241. 2016-01-22 01:25:31     n-tech  and he will destroy them in a weeken
  7242. 2016-01-22 01:25:34     copypaste       anyway, as i was about to say, as a hobbyist calligrapher, that "Die Cis Scum" tattoo is really badly done. honestly one of the worst i've ever seen
  7243. 2016-01-22 01:25:34     n-tech  so we wrote this to googlebomb him
  7244. 2016-01-22 01:25:39     copypaste       the tattoo artist must have done it that bad on purpose
  7245. 2016-01-22 01:25:42     copypaste       like to mock him
  7246. 2016-01-22 01:25:44     n-tech  no
  7247. 2016-01-22 01:25:47     n-tech  he gives them designs
  7248. 2016-01-22 01:25:50     n-tech  he goes to the same guy every time
  7249. 2016-01-22 01:25:52     n-tech  with a crayon drawing
  7250. 2016-01-22 01:25:55     n-tech  and wants it down exactly that way
  7251. 2016-01-22 01:25:59     copypaste       oh my god
  7252. 2016-01-22 01:26:00     copypaste       LOL
  7253. 2016-01-22 01:26:02     copypaste       man
  7254. 2016-01-22 01:26:05     copypaste       i love this guy
  7255. 2016-01-22 01:26:08     copypaste       thanks for the new lolcow
  7256. 2016-01-22 01:26:14     n-tech  he's one of my favs
  7257. 2016-01-22 01:26:18     n-tech  there's an entire subforum on him
  7258. 2016-01-22 01:26:20     n-tech  lol
  7259. 2016-01-22 01:26:25     n-tech  he's gotten really great in 2015
  7260. 2016-01-22 01:26:28     n-tech  read that post tho
  7261. 2016-01-22 01:26:31     n-tech  he's a massive cunt
  7262. 2016-01-22 01:26:37     copypaste       i could give him a bitching gothic calligraphy tattoo. it's my strongest alphabet
  7263. 2016-01-22 01:26:38     copypaste       will do
  7264. 2016-01-22 01:27:01     copypaste       (in callirgaphy you learn alphabets, there are coptic, gothic, engraver's script, uncial, etc etc)
  7265. 2016-01-22 01:27:02     copypaste       (roman)
  7266. 2016-01-22 01:27:04     copypaste       (ok i read now)
  7267. 2016-01-22 01:27:42     copypaste       man reading this all i can think is if i was autistic i definitely would have been a lolcow
  7268. 2016-01-22 01:27:47     copypaste       both chris and this crazy dude like spanish
  7269. 2016-01-22 01:27:50     copypaste       i like spanish
  7270. 2016-01-22 01:27:59     copypaste       i have or hadweird hobbies like calligraphy
  7271. 2016-01-22 01:28:01     copypaste       i liked sonic
  7272. 2016-01-22 01:28:10     copypaste       i'm pretty racist
  7273. 2016-01-22 01:28:12     n-tech  most people like spergy things
  7274. 2016-01-22 01:28:16     n-tech  most people are racist
  7275. 2016-01-22 01:28:16     n-tech  lol
  7276. 2016-01-22 01:28:19     copypaste       lol
  7277. 2016-01-22 01:28:36     n-tech  even my kind loving grandmother doesn't like mexicans that don't speak English
  7278. 2016-01-22 01:28:50     n-tech  but like
  7279. 2016-01-22 01:28:54     n-tech  she teaches ESL
  7280. 2016-01-22 01:28:59     n-tech  at her church
  7281. 2016-01-22 01:28:59     n-tech  lol
  7282. 2016-01-22 01:29:21     copypaste       ok wow over the top
  7283. 2016-01-22 01:29:22     copypaste       A recent visit to his mother resulted in him declaring her dead and himself an orphan, because she would not pay to have his testicles removed.
  7284. 2016-01-22 01:29:23     copypaste       wow
  7285. 2016-01-22 01:29:49     copypaste       my mother could throw me off a cliff and i'd love her until i hit the ground
  7286. 2016-01-22 01:29:52     copypaste       how do you not love your own mother
  7287. 2016-01-22 01:30:22     copypaste       i mean ok if she abused you as a child i get it
  7288. 2016-01-22 01:30:35     copypaste       but because she won't refinance her house to cut off your balls ??
  7289. 2016-01-22 01:31:08     n-tech  lol
  7290. 2016-01-22 01:31:14     n-tech  he's greed embodied
  7291. 2016-01-22 01:31:23     n-tech  his entire worldview is about how society should better service him
  7292. 2016-01-22 01:31:35     copypaste       i feel like we've switched places from when i was telling you about mircea pooperscoop
  7293. 2016-01-22 01:31:40     n-tech  How the government should pay him more money, how communism should take care of him for life, how people should give him everything he wants.
  7294. 2016-01-22 01:31:43     copypaste       i'm now the tired one absorbing all this hilarity
  7295. 2016-01-22 01:31:44     copypaste       but it's so late
  7296. 2016-01-22 01:31:55     n-tech  ye
  7297. 2016-01-22 01:32:06     n-tech  if you're tired go to bed, the subforum is here forever lol
  7298. 2016-01-22 01:32:08     copypaste       i never got to that article. i definitely have to catalog him
  7299. 2016-01-22 01:32:09     copypaste       yeah
  7300. 2016-01-22 01:32:21     copypaste       but mircea is really only known in the r/buttcoin community
  7301. 2016-01-22 01:32:28     copypaste       i think i could make him bigger if i tried
  7302. 2016-01-22 01:32:35     copypaste       especially since he's issuing death threats now
  7303. 2016-01-22 01:32:49     copypaste       that's normally a lolcow trait
  7304. 2016-01-22 01:34:44     copypaste       https://kiwifar.ms/threads/8-22-another-new-tattoo-with-a-side-of-communism.11932/
  7305. 2016-01-22 01:34:46     copypaste       jesus christ
  7306. 2016-01-22 01:35:08     n-tech  he plans these out weeks in advance btw
  7307. 2016-01-22 01:35:21     copypaste       has anyone ever talked to this tattoo artist?
  7308. 2016-01-22 01:35:23     n-tech  he talks very openly and in no uncertian terms that he puts away $X a welfare check
  7309. 2016-01-22 01:35:25     n-tech  and then buys a new tattoo
  7310. 2016-01-22 01:35:32     n-tech  not that I know of
  7311. 2016-01-22 01:35:42     n-tech  they have tracked down the shop
  7312. 2016-01-22 01:35:46     n-tech  and the artist appears to do real tattoo
  7313. 2016-01-22 01:35:47     n-tech  s
  7314. 2016-01-22 01:35:50     n-tech  like he has a portfolio
  7315. 2016-01-22 01:35:54     copypaste       lol
  7316. 2016-01-22 01:36:11     copypaste       most tattoo artists are super chill. i personally hate tattoos, like, i have recurring nightmares about being held down and forced to get one
  7317. 2016-01-22 01:36:15     copypaste       yeah it's weird i know
  7318. 2016-01-22 01:36:29     copypaste       but most tattoo artists don't care fi you're a weirdo they just want the money
  7319. 2016-01-22 01:36:34     copypaste       they also don't care if you're drunk/high lol
  7320. 2016-01-22 01:36:54     copypaste       but even with that said, if he really goes to the same on every time i think i'd refuse service
  7321. 2016-01-22 01:37:01     copypaste       i can't help someone mutilate themselves like this
  7322. 2016-01-22 01:37:17     copypaste       i hate all tattoos and the very concept, but i can see the beauty in some
  7323. 2016-01-22 01:37:24     copypaste       but this is just like cutting oneself
  7324. 2016-01-22 01:37:27     copypaste       it's terrible
  7325. 2016-01-22 01:37:40     n-tech  nah most do care if you're intoxicated
  7326. 2016-01-22 01:37:48     copypaste       really ?
  7327. 2016-01-22 01:37:48     n-tech  because they can be sued and some just consider it morally irresponsible
  7328. 2016-01-22 01:37:51     n-tech  yes
  7329. 2016-01-22 01:37:53     copypaste       oh, ok, in america
  7330. 2016-01-22 01:37:54     copypaste       not here
  7331. 2016-01-22 01:37:58     n-tech  if you're going to be an idiot most want you to be a sober idiot
  7332. 2016-01-22 01:37:58     n-tech  lol
  7333. 2016-01-22 01:38:02     copypaste       yeah i never went inside a tattoo shop in ameica
  7334. 2016-01-22 01:38:10     copypaste       i went inside one here with my friends
  7335. 2016-01-22 01:38:11     n-tech  why are you visiting tattoo shops here
  7336. 2016-01-22 01:38:20     copypaste       we were drunk and i was talking about it
  7337. 2016-01-22 01:38:24     copypaste       they wanted me to face my fear
  7338. 2016-01-22 01:38:30     copypaste       but they said they wouldn't force me to get one
  7339. 2016-01-22 01:38:41     copypaste       i just had to go inside and ask to watch and see it's not so bad
  7340. 2016-01-22 01:38:43     n-tech  lol ron is still working on read.php
  7341. 2016-01-22 01:38:49     copypaste       did he open a new PR?
  7342. 2016-01-22 01:38:50     n-tech  man holy fucking shit i need to avoid watkins at all costs
  7343. 2016-01-22 01:38:54     copypaste       is he testing it yet?
  7344. 2016-01-22 01:38:58     n-tech  no he said he was going to spend more time this week
  7345. 2016-01-22 01:38:59     n-tech  but still
  7346. 2016-01-22 01:39:00     n-tech  he was like
  7347. 2016-01-22 01:39:01     n-tech  WOW
  7348. 2016-01-22 01:39:04     n-tech  THIS HAS FOR LOOPS
  7349. 2016-01-22 01:39:09     n-tech  U N S A L V A G A B L E
  7350. 2016-01-22 01:39:31     n-tech  like
  7351. 2016-01-22 01:39:33     n-tech  you have a board index
  7352. 2016-01-22 01:39:33     copypaste       btw just so you know, at the machine code level for is implemented as a jump
  7353. 2016-01-22 01:39:35     n-tech  it has many threads
  7354. 2016-01-22 01:39:38     n-tech  that each have many posts
  7355. 2016-01-22 01:39:41     n-tech  that each have many attachments
  7356. 2016-01-22 01:39:48     copypaste       jumps are the main currency on a CPU
  7357. 2016-01-22 01:39:53     copypaste       it doesn't matter
  7358. 2016-01-22 01:39:57     copypaste       you could have 100 for loops inside each other
  7359. 2016-01-22 01:39:59     copypaste       it would run fine
  7360. 2016-01-22 01:40:06     copypaste       as long as none were doing a slow operation
  7361. 2016-01-22 01:40:06     copypaste       lol
  7362. 2016-01-22 01:40:08     n-tech  yea, like, I understand what the difference is
  7363. 2016-01-22 01:40:11     n-tech  I completely get it
  7364. 2016-01-22 01:40:14     n-tech  With functional logic
  7365. 2016-01-22 01:40:17     n-tech  its' easier to calculate the cost
  7366. 2016-01-22 01:40:18     copypaste       yea cool
  7367. 2016-01-22 01:40:26     n-tech  but with for loops it's "quadratic", which is more complicated
  7368. 2016-01-22 01:40:27     n-tech  i get it
  7369. 2016-01-22 01:40:30     n-tech  but it doesn't mean shit
  7370. 2016-01-22 01:40:45     n-tech  I have a loop with between 0 and 15 cycles for the index page
  7371. 2016-01-22 01:40:52     copypaste       uhhh no. dude.
  7372. 2016-01-22 01:40:54     n-tech  and then between 1 and 6 for all the posts inside each thread
  7373. 2016-01-22 01:40:58     copypaste       functional vs for loop is no faster at the cpu level
  7374. 2016-01-22 01:41:00     n-tech  and then between 0 and 5 attachments
  7375. 2016-01-22 01:41:03     copypaste       both implemented using jumps
  7376. 2016-01-22 01:41:09     n-tech  well I'm talking about application design
  7377. 2016-01-22 01:41:11     copypaste       i can prove this in python if you want, which has both
  7378. 2016-01-22 01:41:19     copypaste       yes but from standard of cpu time
  7379. 2016-01-22 01:41:22     n-tech  like from an engineering perspective
  7380. 2016-01-22 01:41:23     copypaste       it's exactly the same fucking thing
  7381. 2016-01-22 01:41:30     n-tech  it's probably more organized and easier to calculate with functions
  7382. 2016-01-22 01:41:31     n-tech  idk
  7383. 2016-01-22 01:41:35     copypaste       just a different way of saying "do a jump after this code block to theb eginning"
  7384. 2016-01-22 01:41:39     n-tech  cuz he said Haskall is traditonally used in like, AI
  7385. 2016-01-22 01:41:46     n-tech  where being able to plan out cost is very important
  7386. 2016-01-22 01:42:07     copypaste       haskell is used in AI because it's the easiest way to map a neural network
  7387. 2016-01-22 01:42:17     copypaste       with recursion, than with for
  7388. 2016-01-22 01:42:22     copypaste       it makes the most sense to us, the human
  7389. 2016-01-22 01:42:25     copypaste       it doesn't amtter to the PC
  7390. 2016-01-22 01:42:35     copypaste       you can believe me or not, i don't care. but this for loop fetish is bizarre
  7391. 2016-01-22 01:43:20     copypaste       also dude
  7392. 2016-01-22 01:43:26     n-tech  yeah, losing ron to something like this is really disheartening
  7393. 2016-01-22 01:43:26     copypaste       did ron really call next "unsalvageable"?
  7394. 2016-01-22 01:43:30     copypaste       he knows my position on it right?
  7395. 2016-01-22 01:43:38     n-tech  I keep putting my faith on these fucking people and they're flakes
  7396. 2016-01-22 01:43:40     copypaste       that i'm giving you as long as you need?
  7397. 2016-01-22 01:43:40     n-tech  the Watkins are flakes
  7398. 2016-01-22 01:43:48     n-tech  no, but he basically gave up
  7399. 2016-01-22 01:43:50     copypaste       Watkins Flakes are good with milk
  7400. 2016-01-22 01:43:59     n-tech  like Johann was the only one interested after I discussed the loops
  7401. 2016-01-22 01:44:08     n-tech  He wrote code to inet column types
  7402. 2016-01-22 01:44:10     copypaste       johann's a real engineer that's why
  7403. 2016-01-22 01:44:13     n-tech  and now the captcha is fixed
  7404. 2016-01-22 01:44:22     n-tech  and the beta site runs fine
  7405. 2016-01-22 01:44:28     copypaste       let me tell you something, but don't tell ron
  7406. 2016-01-22 01:44:30     copypaste       ron is mostly talk
  7407. 2016-01-22 01:44:35     n-tech  well obvious
  7408. 2016-01-22 01:44:42     n-tech  he's one of the programmers who bother me
  7409. 2016-01-22 01:44:43     copypaste       he could not do what johann just did in a year
  7410. 2016-01-22 01:44:45     n-tech  because they drop words
  7411. 2016-01-22 01:44:56     copypaste       now, neither can i. but i admit it
  7412. 2016-01-22 01:45:00     n-tech  like, he starts talking about "quadratic time"
  7413. 2016-01-22 01:45:05     n-tech  and i have to ask, because me dumb
  7414. 2016-01-22 01:45:07     n-tech  what is quadratic time
  7415. 2016-01-22 01:45:10     n-tech  and he gets huffy and links me shit
  7416. 2016-01-22 01:45:15     copypaste       when he starts doing this retarded thing
  7417. 2016-01-22 01:45:17     n-tech  and says he "doesn't have time to run a class on quadratic time"
  7418. 2016-01-22 01:45:18     copypaste       here's what i do
  7419. 2016-01-22 01:46:01     copypaste       "why do you think that <insert buzzword> is the problem? what specific line of code shows this to be the case? did you run a benchmark which showed an abnormal amount of time being stuck in that step of execution?"
  7420. 2016-01-22 01:46:28     copypaste       i don't ask what his stupid buzzwords mean because i don't care
  7421. 2016-01-22 01:46:39     n-tech  I got very frustrated and asked him like
  7422. 2016-01-22 01:46:44     n-tech  if for loops were the real problem here
  7423. 2016-01-22 01:46:49     n-tech  1) why do programming languages have them
  7424. 2016-01-22 01:46:54     n-tech  2) why haven't they already gone the way of goto
  7425. 2016-01-22 01:47:03     n-tech  3) how have i managed avoiding hearing this for 10 years
  7426. 2016-01-22 01:47:09     copypaste       for and functions are just jumps
  7427. 2016-01-22 01:47:10     copypaste       for the last time
  7428. 2016-01-22 01:47:12     n-tech  and he said I must have actively avoided the information
  7429. 2016-01-22 01:47:12     n-tech  lol
  7430. 2016-01-22 01:47:14     copypaste       do you know why goto ever existed?
  7431. 2016-01-22 01:47:19     n-tech  goto is a jump, i get it
  7432. 2016-01-22 01:47:20     copypaste       GOTO is how it's done at the compiler level
  7433. 2016-01-22 01:47:26     copypaste       for and functions are abstractions of GOTO
  7434. 2016-01-22 01:47:29     copypaste       that's it
  7435. 2016-01-22 01:47:30     copypaste       that's all they are
  7436. 2016-01-22 01:48:39     copypaste       a function is just setting a few variables, goto and unsetting them; a for loop is just jumping back up to the tag at the end or at `continue`
  7437. 2016-01-22 01:48:46     copypaste       i feel like saying this to ron
  7438. 2016-01-22 01:48:52     copypaste       fucking dick, making me think about this dumb shit
  7439. 2016-01-22 01:49:04     n-tech  lol
  7440. 2016-01-22 01:49:13     copypaste       there's no god damned difference except in how humans understand it
  7441. 2016-01-22 01:49:16     n-tech  i knew he was full of shit because there's no way he isn't
  7442. 2016-01-22 01:49:17     copypaste       to the PC it's the saaaaaaaaame
  7443. 2016-01-22 01:49:23     n-tech  like, as i said
  7444. 2016-01-22 01:49:26     n-tech  if this was so poor practice
  7445. 2016-01-22 01:49:29     n-tech  it would not be popular
  7446. 2016-01-22 01:49:45     copypaste       you know C, right?
  7447. 2016-01-22 01:49:49     copypaste       the language of the linux kernel
  7448. 2016-01-22 01:49:49     n-tech  pff no
  7449. 2016-01-22 01:49:57     n-tech  I'm not smart enough to go lower
  7450. 2016-01-22 01:49:58     copypaste       ok well, C is not functional
  7451. 2016-01-22 01:50:04     copypaste       ron's precious kernel
  7452. 2016-01-22 01:50:08     copypaste       uses for all over the damn plac
  7453. 2016-01-22 01:50:11     n-tech  what's freebsd in?
  7454. 2016-01-22 01:50:14     copypaste       C
  7455. 2016-01-22 01:50:30     copypaste       windows NT is also in C btw
  7456. 2016-01-22 01:51:00     copypaste       C first appeared in 1972
  7457. 2016-01-22 01:51:25     n-tech  ye it's an old language
  7458. 2016-01-22 01:51:26     copypaste       every single unix is written in it
  7459. 2016-01-22 01:51:30     copypaste       and so are almost all of the utils
  7460. 2016-01-22 01:51:32     copypaste       man? c
  7461. 2016-01-22 01:51:33     copypaste       grep? c
  7462. 2016-01-22 01:51:36     copypaste       bash? c
  7463. 2016-01-22 01:51:38     copypaste       sh? c
  7464. 2016-01-22 01:51:38     n-tech  PHP is actually a scripting language I think
  7465. 2016-01-22 01:51:43     n-tech  it's interpreted by C++
  7466. 2016-01-22 01:51:53     n-tech  which also has loops
  7467. 2016-01-22 01:52:00     copypaste       Implementation language C (primarily; some components C++)
  7468. 2016-01-22 01:52:06     copypaste       that means extensions are C++ lol
  7469. 2016-01-22 01:52:10     copypaste       so PHP is also C
  7470. 2016-01-22 01:52:18     copypaste       oh btw fun fact
  7471. 2016-01-22 01:52:35     copypaste       all C is valid C++, but not all C++ is valid C
  7472. 2016-01-22 01:52:41     n-tech  haaa
  7473. 2016-01-22 01:52:43     n-tech  it's like hack
  7474. 2016-01-22 01:52:46     copypaste       yep
  7475. 2016-01-22 01:52:48     copypaste       exactly the same
  7476. 2016-01-22 01:52:51     copypaste       it added classes to C
  7477. 2016-01-22 01:52:53     copypaste       C has no classes
  7478. 2016-01-22 01:52:55     n-tech  Hack is going to be our PHP++
  7479. 2016-01-22 01:52:58     n-tech  ave, true to facebook
  7480. 2016-01-22 01:53:17     copypaste       i find it funny you've never done low level programming
  7481. 2016-01-22 01:53:23     copypaste       i dunno why
  7482. 2016-01-22 01:53:25     copypaste       i have, lots of times
  7483. 2016-01-22 01:53:39     n-tech  My interest in programming doesn't stem from the same place as yours
  7484. 2016-01-22 01:53:48     copypaste       yeah true
  7485. 2016-01-22 01:53:51     n-tech  You picked up Ubuntu at a young age and wanted to write code to have applications on your computer
  7486. 2016-01-22 01:54:12     n-tech  I started programming because when I was 13 I played a game called Blockland that used the TorqueScript scripting language and I wanted to write mods and add-ons and gamemodes for Blockland
  7487. 2016-01-22 01:54:19     n-tech  Eventually I added a website that my gamemode communicated with
  7488. 2016-01-22 01:54:23     n-tech  for highscore tables
  7489. 2016-01-22 01:54:30     n-tech  I've always been very interested in only one thing
  7490. 2016-01-22 01:54:35     n-tech  making cool stuff people like playing with
  7491. 2016-01-22 01:54:36     n-tech  lol
  7492. 2016-01-22 01:54:48     copypaste       one of my favorite programming stories is when i was 16 at my mom's and i bought a USB wifi dongle for my PC. i bought it because their website had a linux kernel module on it under "Hobbyists" or something. it was for kernel 2.2 but i had kernel 2.6
  7493. 2016-01-22 01:54:53     copypaste       i had to update this kernel modul
  7494. 2016-01-22 01:55:15     copypaste       so i read the lkml to see what changed, recompiled a few times, rewrote a loop and
  7495. 2016-01-22 01:55:17     copypaste       it worked :D
  7496. 2016-01-22 01:55:28     n-tech  noice
  7497. 2016-01-22 01:55:30     n-tech  much practical
  7498. 2016-01-22 01:55:38     copypaste       yeah
  7499. 2016-01-22 01:55:43     copypaste       people can say hurr just use winderrs
  7500. 2016-01-22 01:55:43     n-tech  at that age I was doing much less impressive stuff
  7501. 2016-01-22 01:55:48     n-tech  I was using PHP to solve my math homework
  7502. 2016-01-22 01:55:48     copypaste       but i would have never learned how to do that
  7503. 2016-01-22 01:55:48     n-tech  lol
  7504. 2016-01-22 01:55:49     copypaste       if i did
  7505. 2016-01-22 01:56:27     copypaste       knowing low level isn't all good though
  7506. 2016-01-22 01:56:30     copypaste       it has tons of antipatterns
  7507. 2016-01-22 01:56:38     copypaste       it's why im comfortable with 1000 line php scripts
  7508. 2016-01-22 01:56:59     copypaste       and don't think much about architecture unless i force myself to
  7509. 2016-01-22 01:57:55     copypaste       anyway, fun chat
  7510. 2016-01-22 01:57:58     copypaste       see you tomorrow @2
  7511. 2016-01-22 01:58:00     n-tech  ye
  7512. 2016-01-22 01:58:01     n-tech  take it easy
  7513. 2016-01-22 13:36:24     n-tech  yo
  7514. 2016-01-22 13:36:26     n-tech  it's almost 2
  7515. 2016-01-22 13:36:30     n-tech  let me know when you're going to come over
  7516. 2016-01-22 13:36:38     n-tech  you're usually late so i'm not ready yet
  7517. 2016-01-22 13:36:48     n-tech  we should probably meet at jollibee's instead of my place lol
  7518. 2016-01-22 13:40:32     copypaste       yep on my way
  7519. 2016-01-22 13:40:37     copypaste       oh you're going jollibee
  7520. 2016-01-22 13:40:43     copypaste       but i was going to stay there for few hours
  7521. 2016-01-22 13:40:45     n-tech  ye we should, my place's still fucked
  7522. 2016-01-22 13:40:47     n-tech  really? why?
  7523. 2016-01-22 13:40:49     copypaste       before going
  7524. 2016-01-22 13:40:59     copypaste       well like i said i just wanted to see how things were going and maybe work on some stuff
  7525. 2016-01-22 13:41:04     n-tech  nah lets not do that, i don't feel comfortable. i haven't had time to clean up properly.
  7526. 2016-01-22 13:41:09     copypaste       ok ok
  7527. 2016-01-22 13:41:10     n-tech  if anything let me come over
  7528. 2016-01-22 13:41:16     copypaste       yeah
  7529. 2016-01-22 13:41:18     copypaste       you can come over
  7530. 2016-01-22 13:41:19     n-tech  I was going to clean up more today but I got hit
  7531. 2016-01-22 13:41:21     copypaste       bring jollibee
  7532. 2016-01-22 13:41:35     n-tech  n
  7533. 2016-01-22 13:41:36     n-tech  fuck
  7534. 2016-01-22 13:41:39     copypaste       you got hit?
  7535. 2016-01-22 13:41:41     copypaste       by who?
  7536. 2016-01-22 13:41:46     n-tech  Linode
  7537. 2016-01-22 13:41:46     n-tech  https://kiwifar.ms/threads/linode-is-now-the-shittiest-company-ive-ever-dealt-with.16822/
  7538. 2016-01-22 13:42:00     n-tech  the french flag is because our new host is french lol
  7539. 2016-01-22 13:42:03     copypaste       oh no, over infinitydev again?
  7540. 2016-01-22 13:42:06     n-tech  no
  7541. 2016-01-22 13:42:07     n-tech  kf
  7542. 2016-01-22 13:42:09     n-tech  someone emailed them about us
  7543. 2016-01-22 13:42:11     copypaste       ahh
  7544. 2016-01-22 13:42:14     n-tech  and they said it's an illegal site
  7545. 2016-01-22 13:42:17     n-tech  and have asked us to remove it
  7546. 2016-01-22 13:42:19     n-tech  so i'm going to
  7547. 2016-01-22 13:42:24     n-tech  and they can go fuck themselves
  7548. 2016-01-22 13:42:38     copypaste       " move kiwifarms to a .onion domain and self-host, it's the only way to be safe "
  7549. 2016-01-22 13:42:41     copypaste       everyone is downvoting this guy
  7550. 2016-01-22 13:42:41     n-tech  lol
  7551. 2016-01-22 13:42:43     copypaste       but what he said is true
  7552. 2016-01-22 13:42:45     copypaste       just saying
  7553. 2016-01-22 13:42:47     n-tech  ye
  7554. 2016-01-22 13:42:50     n-tech  i went over a few options
  7555. 2016-01-22 13:42:57     n-tech  i had someone offer me their own hosting company
  7556. 2016-01-22 13:43:11     copypaste       from his pic i can't tell if guy or girl
  7557. 2016-01-22 13:43:15     copypaste       cool
  7558. 2016-01-22 13:43:24     n-tech  I don't trust Nttech because of Jim (if that's even an option), I like Odili but I don't want to write checks to Sapphire Group
  7559. 2016-01-22 13:43:36     n-tech  A user offered me their company but I don't want to be a second rung
  7560. 2016-01-22 13:43:39     copypaste       jim is not an option
  7561. 2016-01-22 13:43:41     copypaste       limited rackspace
  7562. 2016-01-22 13:43:43     n-tech  yea
  7563. 2016-01-22 13:44:11     n-tech  so I went over a few alts and I'm just going to move the fucking thing to Europe
  7564. 2016-01-22 13:44:15     n-tech  This is how you know America is falling apart
  7565. 2016-01-22 13:44:16     copypaste       i warned you about linode man
  7566. 2016-01-22 13:44:19     n-tech  Its only export is culture
  7567. 2016-01-22 13:44:21     copypaste       i told you about linode
  7568. 2016-01-22 13:44:24     n-tech  and it's culture is now unappealing
  7569. 2016-01-22 13:44:52     n-tech  like this is literally all it fucking does
  7570. 2016-01-22 13:44:55     n-tech  is host websites
  7571. 2016-01-22 13:45:01     n-tech  and it can't even do that
  7572. 2016-01-22 13:45:06     n-tech  all these little companies are terrified of big brother
  7573. 2016-01-22 13:46:27     copypaste       yeah america doesn't do much more anymore
  7574. 2016-01-22 13:46:37     copypaste       america is like spain way back when
  7575. 2016-01-22 13:46:42     copypaste       right at its peak
  7576. 2016-01-22 13:46:57     copypaste       pretty soon it'll crash and NA will become just as fucked up as SA
  7577. 2016-01-22 13:47:08     copypaste       Texas its own country and other things
  7578. 2016-01-22 13:47:31     n-tech  god let me tell you i am now a fucking expert at setting up php webservers
  7579. 2016-01-22 13:47:36     n-tech  i can do this shit blindfolded
  7580. 2016-01-22 13:52:26     n-tech  http://fr.kiwifar.ms/
  7581. 2016-01-22 13:52:28     n-tech  hell ye
  7582. 2016-01-22 13:53:41     n-tech  sugoi-chan: @ Null, How do the french feel about refugees again?
  7583. 2016-01-22 13:53:44     n-tech  WOW WRECKED
  7584. 2016-01-22 13:53:51     copypaste       lol
  7585. 2016-01-22 13:57:27     copypaste       what is "SC"?
  7586. 2016-01-22 13:57:32     copypaste       is that glaive's shitty forum?
  7587. 2016-01-22 13:57:33     n-tech  Sociopath Community
  7588. 2016-01-22 13:57:37     copypaste       w-wat
  7589. 2016-01-22 13:57:43     copypaste       lol
  7590. 2016-01-22 13:57:46     n-tech  it's a forum for people who claim to be sociopaths
  7591. 2016-01-22 13:57:55     n-tech  It's pathetic but they were the ones pathetic enough to write the letter to Linode
  7592. 2016-01-22 13:58:00     n-tech  so it's one of those things where it's like
  7593. 2016-01-22 13:58:04     n-tech  it could happen and it eventually did
  7594. 2016-01-22 13:58:04     copypaste       well they do claim to be sociopaths
  7595. 2016-01-22 13:58:07     copypaste       yeah
  7596. 2016-01-22 13:58:08     n-tech  yes
  7597. 2016-01-22 13:58:18     n-tech  this dude
  7598. 2016-01-22 13:58:23     n-tech  his name is Dexter because le edge
  7599. 2016-01-22 13:58:34     n-tech  he wrote a letter to XenForo
  7600. 2016-01-22 13:58:39     n-tech  the company that built my software
  7601. 2016-01-22 13:58:44     copypaste       yeah i saw that, that was some HBO drama about a serial killer who was also a cop
  7602. 2016-01-22 13:58:46     n-tech  to ask them to take the kiwi down
  7603. 2016-01-22 13:58:51     copypaste       my mom watched it all the time
  7604. 2016-01-22 13:58:57     n-tech  and then when they told them that's not how the Internet works
  7605. 2016-01-22 13:58:59     n-tech  he wrote a letter to Linode
  7606. 2016-01-22 13:59:03     n-tech  and now he's writing letters to literally
  7607. 2016-01-22 13:59:08     n-tech  every service provider mentioned in the thread
  7608. 2016-01-22 13:59:16     n-tech  to warn them not to let us host
  7609. 2016-01-22 13:59:16     n-tech  lol
  7610. 2016-01-22 13:59:17     copypaste       this reminds me of what happened to 8ch
  7611. 2016-01-22 13:59:23     copypaste       which is how jim took over
  7612. 2016-01-22 13:59:28     copypaste       except we didn't have just one person doing it
  7613. 2016-01-22 13:59:35     copypaste       all of reddit's r/gamerghazi community was
  7614. 2016-01-22 13:59:40     copypaste       (so like 10 people)
  7615. 2016-01-22 13:59:42     n-tech  yeah
  7616. 2016-01-22 13:59:52     n-tech  I'm going to start falseflagging who our host is, I'm not sure how it works
  7617. 2016-01-22 13:59:58     copypaste       you can
  7618. 2016-01-22 14:00:09     copypaste       they don't have the tech skills most likely to figure out for real
  7619. 2016-01-22 14:01:09     copypaste       (here's how you figure out for real : send a report to cloudflare claiming copyright ingringement and request the real IP so you can servce notice to the host, or send a DDoS to kiwifarms, making sure it's clear from your traffic that ti's supposed to be going to kiwifarms. if you don't have CF's pro plan they shut off your service)
  7620. 2016-01-22 14:01:20     copypaste       (i.e., they route traffic back to host)
  7621. 2016-01-22 14:02:12     n-tech  I really doubt Cloudflare will surrender an IP to the user, they may send host information but that's it
  7622. 2016-01-22 14:02:22     n-tech  That's completely counterproductive to being a DDoS mitigation layer
  7623. 2016-01-22 14:02:25     copypaste       CF surrendered 8ch IP before
  7624. 2016-01-22 14:02:33     copypaste       when i didn't have their $200 plan
  7625. 2016-01-22 14:02:38     n-tech  To complaints?
  7626. 2016-01-22 14:02:47     n-tech  That's insane
  7627. 2016-01-22 14:02:47     n-tech  lol
  7628. 2016-01-22 14:02:48     copypaste       they were legit DMCAs but yeah
  7629. 2016-01-22 14:03:03     copypaste       but i know you could (1) upload ur own copyrighted content
  7630. 2016-01-22 14:03:05     copypaste       (2) wait a few weeks
  7631. 2016-01-22 14:03:11     copypaste       (3) if it doesn't disappear, complain to CF
  7632. 2016-01-22 14:03:14     copypaste       so many attack vectors
  7633. 2016-01-22 14:03:38     copypaste       r u coming over with jollibee
  7634. 2016-01-22 14:03:47     copypaste       i want a yum with cheese and 2 mashed potato cups
  7635. 2016-01-22 14:04:06     n-tech  yeah i'll get out now that I got everything put together
  7636. 2016-01-22 14:04:13     n-tech  is it just the yum with cheese?
  7637. 2016-01-22 14:04:24     n-tech  and potatoes
  7638. 2016-01-22 14:04:29     n-tech  or should i get something for the girls
  7639. 2016-01-22 14:05:22     copypaste       they don't want anything
  7640. 2016-01-22 14:18:31     n-tech  leaving home now, brt
  7641. 2016-01-22 15:28:40     copypaste       http://www.androidrootz.com/2014/06/safestrap-recovery-for-at-galaxy-s5.html
  7642. 2016-01-22 20:32:55     copypaste       hey guess what
  7643. 2016-01-22 20:33:01     copypaste       this city does have parks, i just went to one
  7644. 2016-01-22 20:33:08     copypaste       they're private though you have ot pay to enter
  7645. 2016-01-22 20:33:13     copypaste       they have rides and fountains and trees
  7646. 2016-01-22 20:33:24     copypaste       and a bike race track
  7647. 2016-01-23 06:07:30             [copypaste away: Not here right now. since 2016-01-23 06:07:30+0800]
  7648. 2016-01-23 06:07:55             [copypaste back: gone 00:00:24]
  7649. 2016-01-23 07:55:57     n-tech  <copypaste> this city does have parks, i just went to one
  7650. 2016-01-23 07:55:59     n-tech  er fuck
  7651. 2016-01-23 07:56:03     n-tech  CloudFlare received an abuse report regarding:
  7652. 2016-01-23 07:56:03     n-tech  kiwifar.ms
  7653. 2016-01-23 07:56:03     n-tech  Below is the report we received:
  7654. 2016-01-23 07:56:03     n-tech  Reporter's Name: joshua buraczewski
  7655. 2016-01-23 07:56:03     n-tech  Reporter's Email Address: skannerz22@yahoo.com
  7656. 2016-01-23 07:56:03     n-tech  Reporter's Telephone Number: +61434355954
  7657. 2016-01-23 07:56:05     n-tech  Reported URLs:
  7658. 2016-01-23 07:56:09     n-tech  owned
  7659. 2016-01-23 07:56:27     copypaste       no report text?
  7660. 2016-01-23 07:56:39     n-tech          https://kiwifar.ms/forums/lolcows.16/
  7661. 2016-01-23 07:56:39     n-tech          https://kiwifar.ms/threads/dexter-skannerz22-scs-pet-lolcow-nulls-cuckold-bigger-autistic-faggot-than-connor-bible.16828/
  7662. 2016-01-23 07:56:39     n-tech          https://kiwifar.ms/threads/rita-samoilenko-reaper-demon-easily-triggered-alcoholic-pedo-attention-whore-and-tranny.16563/
  7663. 2016-01-23 07:56:39     n-tech          https://kiwifar.ms/threads/conald-petersen-aka-fedsmoker-saint-herkster-herknews-pukekiller-shemale-tranny-church.10885/
  7664. 2016-01-23 07:56:41     n-tech          https://kiwifar.ms/threads/jenny-mcdermott-drug-addict-horsefaced-tranny-homewrecker-attention-whore-scammer-tax-cheat.14348/
  7665. 2016-01-23 07:56:44     n-tech          https://kiwifar.ms/threads/linode-is-now-the-shittiest-company-ive-ever-dealt-with.16822/
  7666. 2016-01-23 07:56:46     n-tech  Logs or Evidence of Abuse: kiwifarms apparently is hosted by you now after linode shut them down for being illegal and copyright violating
  7667. 2016-01-23 07:56:51     n-tech  kiwifarms is a supporter of isis (they contemplated buying server hosting from isis)
  7668. 2016-01-23 07:56:53     n-tech  a supporter of nazis
  7669. 2016-01-23 07:56:55     n-tech  they also "dox" people by posting public info then saying defamatory things about them
  7670. 2016-01-23 07:56:57     n-tech  they regularly abuse autistic people and mentally ill people in general
  7671. 2016-01-23 07:56:59     n-tech  please remove kiwifarms from your services so i don't have to follow through with reporting them/you to federal authorities
  7672. 2016-01-23 07:57:02     n-tech  to protect your own reputation please remove them
  7673. 2016-01-23 07:57:04     n-tech  Comments: https://i.imgur.com/EdvHQ2j.png
  7674. 2016-01-23 07:57:06     n-tech  We have provided the name of your hosting provider to the reporter. Additionally, we have forwarded this report to your hosting provider as well.
  7675. 2016-01-23 07:57:09     n-tech  Regards,
  7676. 2016-01-23 07:57:11     copypaste       cloudflare won't close your account, but it is possible that they will tell him your actual host
  7677. 2016-01-23 07:57:11     n-tech  CloudFlare Abuse
  7678. 2016-01-23 07:57:18     n-tech  The host is already closing us down
  7679. 2016-01-23 07:57:18     copypaste       yes and they forward to the abuse@
  7680. 2016-01-23 07:57:25     copypaste       gandi is?
  7681. 2016-01-23 07:57:28     n-tech  No
  7682. 2016-01-23 07:57:31     n-tech  We're not on Gandi yet
  7683. 2016-01-23 07:57:32     n-tech  Linode is
  7684. 2016-01-23 07:57:35     copypaste       o ok
  7685. 2016-01-23 07:57:45     copypaste       yeah like this is why i've just givn up on fun
  7686. 2016-01-23 07:57:50     copypaste       hey but i will tell you how ED stays up
  7687. 2016-01-23 07:57:55     copypaste       if youpromise not to tell, they told me
  7688. 2016-01-23 07:57:58     copypaste       it's pretty genius
  7689. 2016-01-23 07:57:59     n-tech  https://i.imgur.com/65ApUHO.png
  7690. 2016-01-23 07:58:05     n-tech  I cannot fucking comprehend these people
  7691. 2016-01-23 07:58:07     n-tech  this is like a joke
  7692. 2016-01-23 07:58:09     n-tech  Is this a joke?
  7693. 2016-01-23 07:58:21     copypaste       it wouldn't work for 8chan though because of 8chan's high b/w
  7694. 2016-01-23 07:58:28     copypaste       it wold however work for kiwi
  7695. 2016-01-23 07:58:51     n-tech  ED probably fibs about their host or something
  7696. 2016-01-23 07:58:53     n-tech  what does it do
  7697. 2016-01-23 07:59:12     copypaste       ED has around 5 VPS from small providers and resellers
  7698. 2016-01-23 07:59:21     copypaste       they use these VPS as a reverse proxy to the real dedi
  7699. 2016-01-23 07:59:32     copypaste       when one gets reported and  offline it's trivial to switch
  7700. 2016-01-23 07:59:36     copypaste       and cloudflare doesn'tknowthe real dedi
  7701. 2016-01-23 07:59:52     copypaste       they only know whatever VPS is being used as a MITM
  7702. 2016-01-23 07:59:53     n-tech  Interesting
  7703. 2016-01-23 08:00:47     copypaste       cloudflare wont close your account for anything pretty much, because their whole business model is that they are not responsible for anything and downstream hosts are
  7704. 2016-01-23 08:00:52     copypaste       they protect ISIS
  7705. 2016-01-23 08:00:55     copypaste       as well
  7706. 2016-01-23 08:01:02     n-tech  Cloudflare is the best thing ever
  7707. 2016-01-23 08:01:13     n-tech  Assuming it's not tapped on governments which it porbably is
  7708. 2016-01-23 08:01:15     n-tech  but who cares
  7709. 2016-01-23 08:01:27     n-tech  but I have his phone number
  7710. 2016-01-23 08:01:31     n-tech  that's what I was laughing about
  7711. 2016-01-23 08:01:37     n-tech  I'm going to call him and ask him about the emotional trauma he's had
  7712. 2016-01-23 08:01:40     copypaste       o lol
  7713. 2016-01-23 08:01:44     copypaste       record it
  7714. 2016-01-23 08:01:45     copypaste       pls
  7715. 2016-01-23 08:02:17     n-tech  "Hello I'm calling to follow up on your report of KEEWEE FAR DOT EM ES. This call will be recorded for quality assurance purposes. Are you able to talk about the nature of your complaint?"
  7716. 2016-01-23 08:02:23     n-tech  and then I want to hear him cry about cyberbullying
  7717. 2016-01-23 08:03:05     copypaste       lol
  7718. 2016-01-23 08:03:08     copypaste       d
  7719. 2016-01-23 08:03:08     copypaste       a
  7720. 2016-01-23 08:03:10     copypaste       n
  7721. 2016-01-23 08:03:10     copypaste       k
  7722. 2016-01-23 16:17:15             [copypaste away: Not here right now. since 2016-01-23 16:17:15+0800]
  7723. 2016-01-23 16:19:55             [copypaste back: gone 00:02:39]
  7724. 2016-01-25 00:47:32     n-tech  what's up
  7725. 2016-01-25 00:47:41     n-tech  are you saying hack as in an actual hack or a coding trick
  7726. 2016-01-25 00:48:04     n-tech  I mentioned before we would absolutely need to set a new cookie for user id and just trust the input
  7727. 2016-01-25 01:25:02     copypaste       well, isn't a hack and a coding trick the same thing? i think it can be both. since laravel doesn't want you to have two session cookies, probably more of a hack
  7728. 2016-01-25 01:25:25     n-tech  why would you have a pendantic comment about coding convention after this
  7729. 2016-01-25 01:25:29     n-tech  why would you assume this is appropriate
  7730. 2016-01-25 01:25:36     copypaste       oh, i was just going through my PMs
  7731. 2016-01-25 01:25:53     copypaste       don't ask questions you don't want answered
  7732. 2016-01-26 05:06:09     copypaste       before you leave the country you have some property of mine
  7733. 2016-01-26 05:06:17     copypaste       just the paper that came with my wheelchair
  7734. 2016-01-26 05:06:23     n-tech  it's on the bed
  7735. 2016-01-26 05:06:27     copypaste       your bed?
  7736. 2016-01-26 05:06:36     n-tech  i was going to give it to you yesterday but you interrupted that plan
  7737. 2016-01-26 05:06:41     n-tech  yes, it was in my bag
  7738. 2016-01-26 05:06:50     copypaste       okay, so have you already left?
  7739. 2016-01-26 05:06:55     n-tech  no
  7740. 2016-01-26 05:07:09     copypaste       okay, mochi will come pick it up later this morning
  7741. 2016-01-26 05:07:13     copypaste       thank you
  7742. 2016-01-26 07:50:48     copypaste       i'm leaving the mail records of infinitydev.org alone for the next week until you have a chance to download all your mail
  7743. 2016-01-26 07:57:39     copypaste       mochi is coming over now
  7744. 2016-01-26 16:13:57     copypaste       we've one last thing to talk about
  7745. 2016-01-26 16:18:27     copypaste       i want you to either dual license Next under AGPL&Expat license ("BSD") https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIT_License#License_terms or add me specifically, not jim or 2ch or RQI or et cetera, as a copyright holder. i know what it's like having someone try to "troll" me and others through the courts, and it's not fun. savetheinternet used to do it. as you can see on 8chan i mention marcin and
  7746. 2016-01-26 16:18:27     copypaste       savetheinternet in the footer, and would never remove your atribution if i were to fork next, so your due credit would come. as you told me before, you want to be remembered for as long as possible over monetary concerns. i'm asking for this last olive branch, which would make me consider Next for 8chan. you can say no, but that would put me in the difficult position of breaking it to peopole
  7747. 2016-01-26 16:18:27     copypaste       that you refuse to license your software to the people you wrote it for
  7748. 2016-01-26 16:19:01     copypaste       anyway, please consider this olive branch. i'm not really mad at you, just disappointed.
  7749. 2016-01-26 16:19:10     copypaste       thanks for my wheelchair paper back
  7750. 2016-01-26 16:24:55     copypaste       oh, one other thing. it's possible i already own the copyright, if you say no and i really want to use next, i'm going to have a lawyer figure it out. the copy i have is (c) Infinity Next Development Group infinitydev.org, and infinitydev.org is my domain, so. i'm not trying to steal your work, just shield myself and our hosts from frivolous lawsuits
  7751. 2016-01-26 16:25:23     copypaste       i don't think you could make people forget you developed next if you wanted to
  7752. 2016-01-26 16:35:28     n-tech  The copyright is mine. I wrote every single line and you had almost no involvement.
  7753. 2016-01-26 16:35:40     n-tech  You will either pay me for a dual license or you will not get one.
  7754. 2016-01-26 16:35:50     n-tech  I will not talk to you again without the presence of a lawyer.
  7755. 2016-01-26 16:35:51     copypaste       what's your price?
  7756. 2016-01-26 16:36:08     copypaste       hehe, just like last time you have no idea
  7757. 2016-01-26 16:40:30     copypaste       you still don't know? are you doing maths or something?
  7758. 2016-01-26 16:40:43     copypaste       negotiation never was your strong suit
  7759. 2016-01-26 16:42:00     copypaste       how about i go first. i will give you $100 and never talk about your eccentricities again. i know how much that bothers you, people knowing you're human
  7760. 2016-01-26 16:42:13     copypaste       that's for a dual license, expat, not even ownership
  7761. 2016-01-26 16:46:06     copypaste       you do realize github groups aren't legally binding i hope, and that source code ownership only goes forewards and not backwards
  7762. 2016-01-26 16:46:12     copypaste       this is actually why vichan and tinyboard split oh so long ago
  7763. 2016-01-26 16:48:09     copypaste       anyway, decide or make a counter offer in 24 hours. if we want to use Next we will probably end up doing it anyway, once i verify that ownership quandry. have a nice life josh. i really did want to see us succeed together. when i answered tenicu about the status of the project, all that was on my mind was the parallel test. you could have just said you weren't ready, instead of throw a bizarre
  7764. 2016-01-26 16:48:09     copypaste       fit about ron firing you and no one liking you
  7765. 2016-01-26 16:49:42     n-tech  Thanks, it was fun working with you too. I'll let you know what my lawyer says.
  7766. 2016-01-26 18:36:22     copypaste       few things. i let jim know about this talk. 2ch engineers are barred from upstreaming patches or working with you at all until we work this out, so that dream won't happen. if you don't compromise with me at all, on the 28th at 7AM i'm going to present my case to users. it's not going to be pretty for you, in my eyes your recent actions on this matter have shifted you from "failed to deliver, but
  7767. 2016-01-26 18:36:22     copypaste       didn't steal money because at least he tried and his product was usable from a legal perspective" to "failed to deliver, and also stole donated funds because he won't change to a court-tested license and we cannot take the risk of running software with no legal framework" the USA is a common law district after all, and the AGPL has never been in court. i will then assert ownership over it,
  7768. 2016-01-26 18:36:22     copypaste       because it was funded by 8chan users, money was collected on a domain owned by Infinity Dev. Group and the copy i have is owned by Infinity Dev. Group according to its license file. we'd rather go on the offensive than the defensive and have to spend years in court working out what a "component" is in the context of a website, proving copyright is much more cut and dry. your move. my benjamin
  7769. 2016-01-26 18:36:22     copypaste       franklin is still good, as is a GPL compromise 4free. in either event i'm done talking about you in public, you are not worth my time
  7770. 2016-01-26 18:38:49     copypaste       you know i have no problem with open source and maintained the infinity and vichan repos for a very long time. i don't care if our code is open, i just care about being in such untested waters with such limited funds. to be honest if we were sued this way 8chan might never recover, it would be easier to close it than fight
  7771. 2016-01-26 18:40:34     n-tech  Can you elaborate on what "untested waters" mean?
  7772. 2016-01-26 18:40:54     copypaste       sure. the GPL has been in court several times in the USA and in europe. it's clear what the text means in a legal perspective
  7773. 2016-01-26 18:41:16     copypaste       it's been in court in other places too. you can see more at http://gpl-violations.org/ , a project i've actually donated to before
  7774. 2016-01-26 18:41:47     copypaste       it's not at all clear what the AGPL means. it was written by lawyers, but in common law jurisdictions law is based on precedent
  7775. 2016-01-26 18:42:35     copypaste       you could claim that because softserve is used on it and is a "component" of it, and demand the source code for softserve, for example
  7776. 2016-01-26 18:42:52     n-tech  The AGPL license is backed by the Free Software Foundation. I have no intentions of instigating you, Jim, 2ch, or Nttech. I entered into this project because I enjoy development. You have personally seen me sink hundreds if not thousands of hours over the course of almost a year to see the project to the current point.
  7777. 2016-01-26 18:42:55     copypaste       perhaps. i think that claim is absolutely ridiculous, but the more i think about it the more i think it could at least be done
  7778. 2016-01-26 18:43:23     n-tech  As a result, I am not going to relenquish property rights or grant you special permission without legal advice from a qualified lawyer. You are not entitled to my property and you are not allowed to blackmail me into relenquishing my rights.
  7779. 2016-01-26 18:43:34     n-tech  I have nothing else to say until I have received certified legal advice.
  7780. 2016-01-26 18:43:34     copypaste       you've also seen me sink money into it so don't get cute.
  7781. 2016-01-26 18:43:50     copypaste       the GPL is a good compromise. for your sake get that legal advice before the 28th.
  7782. 2016-01-26 18:43:53     copypaste       that'd be all. thank you
  7783. 2016-01-26 18:54:08     copypaste       oh one last thing. this time, if you need an extension when you're out lawyer shopping, tell me instead of throwing a fit. i'll want proof you actually contacted a lawyer though.
  7784. 2016-01-29 19:07:35     n-tech  I don't understand you
  7785. 2016-01-29 19:07:46     n-tech  If you're going to go the route that I'm some sort of fat meth addict (??)
  7786. 2016-01-29 19:07:53     n-tech  and you're going to lie about Jim and say he wanted AGPL in November
  7787. 2016-01-29 19:07:55     n-tech  why not lie about this
  7788. 2016-01-29 19:07:59     n-tech  You could have gone in for the kill
  7789. 2016-01-29 19:11:02     copypaste       where did i say either of those 2 things
  7790. 2016-01-29 19:11:15     n-tech  You said I refused to work unless you gave me meth
  7791. 2016-01-29 19:11:28     copypaste       modafinil, i was clear about that and you did
  7792. 2016-01-29 19:11:41     copypaste       read more carefully our final -staff log
  7793. 2016-01-29 19:11:41     n-tech  I did not, I said I was going to wait until I had it. Maybe it'd of helped me through the slump.
  7794. 2016-01-29 19:11:53     copypaste       ok, i took it the other way
  7795. 2016-01-29 19:12:02     n-tech  yeah no shit, you usually do mate
  7796. 2016-01-29 19:12:07     n-tech  You thought I fucking left the Philippines 8 months ago
  7797. 2016-01-29 19:12:11     n-tech  because Jollibees fucked up my order
  7798. 2016-01-29 19:12:14     n-tech  I don't understand why you do this
  7799. 2016-01-29 19:12:28     n-tech  People are confronting me asking why I refused Jim's offer
  7800. 2016-01-29 19:12:33     n-tech  They think he wanted it under GPL
  7801. 2016-01-29 19:12:36     n-tech  instead of what really happened
  7802. 2016-01-29 19:13:01     n-tech  Everything was fine when we ate pizza, I wasn't mad. I was disheartened.
  7803. 2016-01-29 19:13:09     n-tech  I still wanted everything to work right and you tried to fucking blackmail me
  7804. 2016-01-29 19:13:11     n-tech  I just don't get it dude
  7805. 2016-01-29 19:14:23     copypaste       jim didn't want agpl and never did , that's true. but he didn't care so long as we weren't asking him to pay for it. if we could have got it working ourselves without his help, it would have never come up
  7806. 2016-01-29 19:14:44     n-tech  But yet people know about the coffee store and they think he wanted it under GPL
  7807. 2016-01-29 19:14:45     copypaste       the offer was a way out. he was saying he'd help fix it, but i had to make sure he understood -exactly- what he was committing his programmers to do.
  7808. 2016-01-29 19:14:49     n-tech  He was just paying me to change it to a different FOSS license
  7809. 2016-01-29 19:14:57     n-tech  which is the literal exact opposite fo what happened
  7810. 2016-01-29 19:15:03     n-tech  I have no idea where this came from but it didn't come from me
  7811. 2016-01-29 19:15:07     n-tech  so either Jim or you is spreading fibs
  7812. 2016-01-29 19:15:36     n-tech  The deal was no open source, he owned it, and I can't upstream commits to public
  7813. 2016-01-29 19:15:44     n-tech  So why lie about that? Is Jim mad or something?
  7814. 2016-01-29 19:15:53     n-tech  If Jim's mad I understand mate, I fucking get the whole "jim is scary" thing
  7815. 2016-01-29 19:16:06     n-tech  I can burden this shit and fuck off if that's what's required to keep everything gucchi.
  7816. 2016-01-29 19:16:14     n-tech  If you were really trying to destroy me you would have done so 30 minutes ago
  7817. 2016-01-29 19:16:15     n-tech  but ya didn't
  7818. 2016-01-29 19:16:18     n-tech  so something's fucky
  7819. 2016-01-29 19:17:34     copypaste       i think what's at issue here is that there are two deals, both wildly different.
  7820. 2016-01-29 19:17:47     copypaste       the deal that -included- a salary for you also had a sign over of your Next commits
  7821. 2016-01-29 19:17:57     copypaste       but the bailout for Next was approved all the way up to GPL
  7822. 2016-01-29 19:18:19     n-tech  That was never brought up to me then
  7823. 2016-01-29 19:18:21     copypaste       i barely talked about the first deal, because i don't see it as important because it's been off the table for months and there is absolutely no way jim will ever offer that to you again
  7824. 2016-01-29 19:18:28     n-tech  Your offer for GPL was $100 and not calling me a fat meth addict
  7825. 2016-01-29 19:18:42     copypaste       that was deal #2
  7826. 2016-01-29 19:18:49     n-tech  Deal #2 fucking sucks
  7827. 2016-01-29 19:19:03     copypaste       so be it. i figure i'd offer it, because i know that 2ch and them can fix it
  7828. 2016-01-29 19:19:09     n-tech  If it's public misconception that they're the same thing I sort of understand that
  7829. 2016-01-29 19:19:13     n-tech  because people are inherently retarded
  7830. 2016-01-29 19:19:19     n-tech  and prone to believe whatever suits what they want to believe
  7831. 2016-01-29 19:19:32     n-tech  and like, you gave me no time
  7832. 2016-01-29 19:19:37     n-tech  it was 24 hours or i write a hit piece
  7833. 2016-01-29 19:19:38     n-tech  that was my deal
  7834. 2016-01-29 19:19:41     n-tech  I wanted to consult smarter people
  7835. 2016-01-29 19:20:00     n-tech  and literally if you did this in the opposite order everything would be fine
  7836. 2016-01-29 19:20:06     n-tech  you could have asked me while we were eating pizza
  7837. 2016-01-29 19:20:12     n-tech  to sign a paper letting NTTech use Next
  7838. 2016-01-29 19:20:15     n-tech  I'd of signed it without reading it
  7839. 2016-01-29 19:20:16     copypaste       i didn't have approval then
  7840. 2016-01-29 19:20:20     copypaste       here's the thing
  7841. 2016-01-29 19:20:22     n-tech  because I'm a moron like that who has implicit trust
  7842. 2016-01-29 19:20:37     copypaste       i don't do things like that. i always make sure people understand exactly what they're agreeing to
  7843. 2016-01-29 19:20:46     copypaste       and i try to always tell the truth as closely as possible, as hard as that is for you to believe
  7844. 2016-01-29 19:20:54     n-tech  And then if they disagree you try to take it from then anyways?
  7845. 2016-01-29 19:21:17     copypaste       that was a bluff. i figured anything to save next was justified
  7846. 2016-01-29 19:21:27     copypaste       i figured you'd bend under that, surprisingly you didn't
  7847. 2016-01-29 19:21:44     copypaste       here's what you could have done
  7848. 2016-01-29 19:21:46     n-tech  It didn't matter if it was a bluff or not
  7849. 2016-01-29 19:21:55     n-tech  I was not going to let go of the project
  7850. 2016-01-29 19:22:01     n-tech  I was the one who spent 9 months on a caffeine binge writing it
  7851. 2016-01-29 19:22:12     n-tech  You can't understand what it's like to have someone trying to pry work from you like that
  7852. 2016-01-29 19:22:14     copypaste       you could have licensed all commits before a certain date under GPL, and then all after under AGPL. you could have had a GPL fork and an AGPL fork, creating license incompatible branches
  7853. 2016-01-29 19:22:17     copypaste       there's a lot you could have done
  7854. 2016-01-29 19:22:40     copypaste       this would have saved it, since they could have worked on it for however long it took to fix it
  7855. 2016-01-29 19:22:48     copypaste       you could have accepted their commits into your branch, and continued your dev under AGPL
  7856. 2016-01-29 19:22:58     n-tech  Yeah but why would I do that if I was being threatened?
  7857. 2016-01-29 19:23:08     copypaste       i figured we both wanted to save nex
  7858. 2016-01-29 19:23:09     copypaste       t
  7859. 2016-01-29 19:23:13     copypaste       i guess i was wrong
  7860. 2016-01-29 19:23:16     n-tech  I'm going to have next, it's not done
  7861. 2016-01-29 19:23:25     copypaste       or, maybe, you thought you could do it yourself
  7862. 2016-01-29 19:23:28     n-tech  I'm still going to work on it and I've found someone with bare metal who wants to host it, my Jim.
  7863. 2016-01-29 19:23:33     copypaste       and we didn't agree that johann and ron were requirements to fixing it
  7864. 2016-01-29 19:23:55     n-tech  Ron didn't want anything to do with it from my POV
  7865. 2016-01-29 19:24:02     n-tech  He was comitting stuff to your project
  7866. 2016-01-29 19:24:17     copypaste       that's not what he told me so i'm torn on this
  7867. 2016-01-29 19:24:36     n-tech  From our conversation at the end of my death march to pull off the 2nd migration
  7868. 2016-01-29 19:24:41     n-tech  which again, involved like 5 days of 16 hour shifts
  7869. 2016-01-29 19:24:44     n-tech  I would wake up, work, sleep.
  7870. 2016-01-29 19:24:50     n-tech  That was my entire life while the migration was being sorted out
  7871. 2016-01-29 19:24:53     n-tech  at the tail end of this
  7872. 2016-01-29 19:25:00     n-tech  Ron comes in and says that I fucked up by using for loops
  7873. 2016-01-29 19:25:08     n-tech  and it just absolutely eviscerates my brain
  7874. 2016-01-29 19:25:40     n-tech  it was the dankest meme of all time and it broke me
  7875. 2016-01-29 19:25:45     copypaste       i can see that. i can really. but that's not the same as saying you're no good and he doesn't want to hire you, or even that next sucks
  7876. 2016-01-29 19:25:52     copypaste       ron was definitely not in the same state of consciousness as you
  7877. 2016-01-29 19:25:56     copypaste       it was probably an off hand comment
  7878. 2016-01-29 19:26:04     n-tech  well that's a shame because I really liked everyone at RQI and I really liked Ron
  7879. 2016-01-29 19:26:14     n-tech  But I was pretty much heartbroken after I woke up to email commits the next day with VFEC stuff
  7880. 2016-01-29 19:26:31     copypaste       like i said before, all he did was move functions around. it doesn't even compile and he hasn't touched it since
  7881. 2016-01-29 19:26:40     copypaste       because he forgot to add `global $config;'
  7882. 2016-01-29 19:26:43     copypaste       he didn't even test it
  7883. 2016-01-29 19:27:01     n-tech  well now you've really done yourself in in terms of options
  7884. 2016-01-29 19:27:06     n-tech  even if AGPL wasn't an issue
  7885. 2016-01-29 19:27:08     n-tech  and Jim was like, lets use that
  7886. 2016-01-29 19:27:13     n-tech  You've successfully raised a legion against me
  7887. 2016-01-29 19:27:15     n-tech  Nobody wants Next anymore
  7888. 2016-01-29 19:27:19     n-tech  Nobody trusts it
  7889. 2016-01-29 19:27:20     copypaste       yes, that ship has sailed
  7890. 2016-01-29 19:27:21     n-tech  So it's not an option
  7891. 2016-01-29 19:27:24     copypaste       i don't even trust it anymore
  7892. 2016-01-29 19:27:39     copypaste       i feel like i did my best to save it, but i failed.
  7893. 2016-01-29 19:27:47     copypaste       at least i figured out what was wrong with vichan. it took long enough.
  7894. 2016-01-29 19:27:48     n-tech  Did you mate?
  7895. 2016-01-29 19:27:57     n-tech  I'm going to be curt because this is building up inside me
  7896. 2016-01-29 19:27:59     copypaste       did i do my best or did i fail ?
  7897. 2016-01-29 19:28:06     n-tech  Why did you not do anything for like 8 months
  7898. 2016-01-29 19:28:19     n-tech  Was it really "health issues"? I'm skeptical because you told me one time while you were over here
  7899. 2016-01-29 19:28:26     n-tech  you can use your disability to get away with pretty much anything
  7900. 2016-01-29 19:28:27     n-tech  like
  7901. 2016-01-29 19:28:28     n-tech  you detailed to me
  7902. 2016-01-29 19:28:31     n-tech  how you manipualte people
  7903. 2016-01-29 19:28:33     n-tech  and then the very same week
  7904. 2016-01-29 19:28:37     n-tech  you said you were too tired or your back hurt
  7905. 2016-01-29 19:28:39     n-tech  and it's like
  7906. 2016-01-29 19:28:40     n-tech  o-oh okay
  7907. 2016-01-29 19:28:51     copypaste       i detailed what to you
  7908. 2016-01-29 19:29:05     n-tech  You would tell me how you cried to get doctors to help you for instance
  7909. 2016-01-29 19:29:20     n-tech  There were other things but the general idea was that you could get away with a lot because of cripple pity
  7910. 2016-01-29 19:29:22     n-tech  it was the uh
  7911. 2016-01-29 19:29:28     n-tech  the thing the story
  7912. 2016-01-29 19:29:29     copypaste       lol. i remember this. look, this was all about pill mills way back when.
  7913. 2016-01-29 19:29:35     n-tech  about the per unit disabled laborers
  7914. 2016-01-29 19:29:43     n-tech  and the guy crying about wages
  7915. 2016-01-29 19:29:47     n-tech  you remember?
  7916. 2016-01-29 19:29:50     copypaste       i remember.
  7917. 2016-01-29 19:29:56     copypaste       that kike, i remember.
  7918. 2016-01-29 19:30:17     n-tech  You use PHP 5.6, you could have added Blackfire or Tideways and found this issue months ago
  7919. 2016-01-29 19:30:23     n-tech  and if you had we'd be fine right now
  7920. 2016-01-29 19:30:27     n-tech  all that pressure to get it done right now
  7921. 2016-01-29 19:30:29     n-tech  would just be gone
  7922. 2016-01-29 19:30:32     n-tech  a weight off everyone's shoulders
  7923. 2016-01-29 19:30:43     n-tech  i just feel like
  7924. 2016-01-29 19:30:49     n-tech  if you had done anything at all with either software
  7925. 2016-01-29 19:30:53     n-tech  it'd be fine
  7926. 2016-01-29 19:31:08     n-tech  we either would have gotten it done in time, or there'd be more time
  7927. 2016-01-29 19:34:20     copypaste       i just thought we knew what the problem was. no one ever came up with, "hey, why not verify that what we tested and verified to be wrong with 8chan X months ago isn't still true?"
  7928. 2016-01-29 19:35:32     copypaste       i think you took a story about pill mills and blew it out of proportion in your mind. yes i have lied to doctors before, but just to get extra pills for people i knew who sold them. i'm still completly physically fucked, which should be pretty obvious from looking at me.
  7929. 2016-01-29 19:36:09     copypaste       on top of all this, i was very depressed about infinity failing. if you think next is important to you, i've worked with vichan for years. i guess i never really want to give it up, deep down.
  7930. 2016-01-29 19:36:15     copypaste       i know this is hard to hear
  7931. 2016-01-29 19:37:12     copypaste       furthermore, that dude who was acting in that video about wages, i mean come on, it's so obvious. you don't need a cripple to tell you he's fake crying, lol. he was just jealous because he was a quadriplegic and they were retards, but they could move.
  7932. 2016-01-29 19:37:32     n-tech  Able bodied people don't usually think like that.
  7933. 2016-01-29 19:37:35     n-tech  I guess.
  7934. 2016-01-29 19:37:37     copypaste       i've never seen more obvious manipulation.
  7935. 2016-01-29 19:37:38     n-tech  Maybe it's an American thing.
  7936. 2016-01-29 19:38:08     copypaste       i've been jealous of other disabled people before, a long time ago in school. i never tried to ruin anything for them though, to my recollection, like he was doing
  7937. 2016-01-29 19:38:11     copypaste       but sure - i wanted to
  7938. 2016-01-29 19:38:17     copypaste       it's called growing up
  7939. 2016-01-29 19:38:40     copypaste       i had experiences growing up most able bodied people don't, and so i instantly see other cripples as people and consider all their motives
  7940. 2016-01-29 19:38:51     copypaste       and that guy in that video was absolutely faking out of jealousy.
  7941. 2016-01-29 19:39:25     n-tech  The most frustrating thing in the entire process
  7942. 2016-01-29 19:39:27     n-tech  was a tweet you made
  7943. 2016-01-29 19:39:51     copypaste       to get back at that anita bitch and to joke around about the fact that i ba
  7944. 2016-01-29 19:39:54     copypaste       anita?
  7945. 2016-01-29 19:39:57     copypaste       whatever the fuck her name is
  7946. 2016-01-29 19:39:59     copypaste       that offworld bitch
  7947. 2016-01-29 19:40:00     copypaste       lol
  7948. 2016-01-29 19:40:07     n-tech  http://i.imgur.com/EyvcfnV.png
  7949. 2016-01-29 19:40:19     copypaste       leigh, there you go
  7950. 2016-01-29 19:40:22     copypaste       i know what yo're talking about
  7951. 2016-01-29 19:40:39     n-tech  6 days after the downhill slide and 14 days before everything went to shit
  7952. 2016-01-29 19:41:09     copypaste       and to make light of the fact that i couldn't really do much. you think i want to just admit to people i was physically and mentally fucked for months?
  7953. 2016-01-29 19:41:14     copypaste       no, it's easier to make ebin tweets
  7954. 2016-01-29 19:41:31     n-tech  i mean, is that true?
  7955. 2016-01-29 19:41:32     copypaste       i really hate leigh. anything to make her think i have it good now
  7956. 2016-01-29 19:41:48     copypaste       do you really think i played GTA for 8 months?
  7957. 2016-01-29 19:42:00     n-tech  no, you also wrote rape mods for prison architect
  7958. 2016-01-29 19:42:03     copypaste       do you think it holds my attention that much? if i was that into games why didn't i even know what fallout was?
  7959. 2016-01-29 19:42:04     n-tech  and did typography
  7960. 2016-01-29 19:42:15     copypaste       i spent 6 hours on one mod, most of which was writing the README
  7961. 2016-01-29 19:42:21     copypaste       once i figured out their API sucked, that was it
  7962. 2016-01-29 19:42:32     copypaste       i spent like a day on that. did you ever even see a finished mod?
  7963. 2016-01-29 19:42:44     copypaste       there's nothing to show but me making some test entities and trying to make some animations, getting frustrated, and quitting.
  7964. 2016-01-29 19:42:59     copypaste       i was wondering why that even interesetd you. everyone comes up with weird offshoot projects
  7965. 2016-01-29 19:43:25     n-tech  I didn't
  7966. 2016-01-29 19:43:37     copypaste       i mean, it's part of this whole business. you can't help it. you think about one thing, and another idea comes out. i first played PA in like...i believe it was one of the alphas in 2013
  7967. 2016-01-29 19:44:14     copypaste       well, i don't really know what to tell you. it's normal for a developer to have many projects, even completely useless ones
  7968. 2016-01-29 19:44:19     copypaste       most people iknow are like taht
  7969. 2016-01-29 19:44:27     n-tech  Then what was your main project?
  7970. 2016-01-29 19:44:41     n-tech  If these are the weird off shoots, what was the main project?
  7971. 2016-01-29 19:44:46     copypaste       i didn't have one. perhaps oekaki and 2ch.js, to just barely tread water around here.
  7972. 2016-01-29 19:44:49     copypaste       and keep my bills paid.
  7973. 2016-01-29 19:44:57     copypaste       but i barely "did my best" on those.
  7974. 2016-01-29 19:44:57     n-tech  You told me you had 10 bitcoins saved
  7975. 2016-01-29 19:45:04     copypaste       i don't like to spend my savings.
  7976. 2016-01-29 19:45:08     copypaste       those are also 8chan's savings.
  7977. 2016-01-29 19:45:22     copypaste       for if shit really hits the fan. this isn't really hitting the fan you know.
  7978. 2016-01-29 19:45:43     copypaste       i promised 8chan that savings way back when. in like the lsat financial report before jim took over.
  7979. 2016-01-29 19:45:46     n-tech  No, you've only ruined my professional life in a very deliberate fashion.
  7980. 2016-01-29 19:45:49     copypaste       i can't just take it and pilfer it for my own uses
  7981. 2016-01-29 19:45:53     n-tech  People are going to attack the forum to. They already plan on it.
  7982. 2016-01-29 19:46:10     n-tech  So the few constants and small joys I have are going to be taken away from me if people have their way.
  7983. 2016-01-29 19:46:37     n-tech  I guess that's nothing hitting the fan, though.
  7984. 2016-01-29 19:46:54     copypaste       take the most recent commit. release all your changes before that date under GPL. i'll take back the stealing thing.
  7985. 2016-01-29 19:46:58     copypaste       it's really that simple.
  7986. 2016-01-29 19:47:09     copypaste       then you can release whatever comes after under whatever you want.
  7987. 2016-01-29 19:47:32     n-tech  It's not stealing. The project was supposed to be my work.
  7988. 2016-01-29 19:47:33     copypaste       i can't back down on this, because unless you fix it independently of us, we got code we can't use because we can't fix it due to licensin.
  7989. 2016-01-29 19:47:44     n-tech  I'm going to, I have other plans now
  7990. 2016-01-29 19:47:46     n-tech  but they're like
  7991. 2016-01-29 19:47:47     copypaste       i never thought i'd have to beg third parties to help it
  7992. 2016-01-29 19:47:47     n-tech  weirdo plans
  7993. 2016-01-29 19:47:53     n-tech  I can never hope to seek a 9-5 now
  7994. 2016-01-29 19:48:27     copypaste       for my part, if you do that i will announce that i have made peace and you gave us what's ours, and perhaps i will even recommend jim fix it. perhaps.
  7995. 2016-01-29 19:48:51     n-tech  You need to stop this mantra that you somehow own the project if there's going to be "peace"
  7996. 2016-01-29 19:49:02     n-tech  You picked this license to specifically help protect my property rights
  7997. 2016-01-29 19:49:02     copypaste       we don't own it if it's under the GPL. it's still your copyright.
  7998. 2016-01-29 19:49:13     n-tech  You cna have it under AGPL too
  7999. 2016-01-29 19:49:16     n-tech  but Jim wants it closed.
  8000. 2016-01-29 19:49:23     n-tech  He wants to add stuff nobody should be allowed to see.
  8001. 2016-01-29 19:49:29     copypaste       GPL isn't closed and you know it. 2ch will even release all their fixes
  8002. 2016-01-29 19:49:42     copypaste       you can base off them for your AGPL fork
  8003. 2016-01-29 19:49:43     n-tech  GPL isn't closed but the source 8chan runs on will be.
  8004. 2016-01-29 19:49:46     n-tech  That's why he wants it GPL
  8005. 2016-01-29 19:49:49     n-tech  So he can close his version
  8006. 2016-01-29 19:49:57     n-tech  You can't fib me on this I know what's going on
  8007. 2016-01-29 19:50:11     n-tech  Remember after the SFW ads?
  8008. 2016-01-29 19:50:17     n-tech  That was when Jim decided he hated me
  8009. 2016-01-29 19:50:30     n-tech  You told me he wanted to add a proprietary, monetized way for people to remove ads from their boards
  8010. 2016-01-29 19:50:34     copypaste       absolutely. but he won't work on it any other way. i had to make sure he understood the license before he worked on it. if this came back to bite him later i'd never hear the end of it
  8011. 2016-01-29 19:50:37     n-tech  I still think that is the dumbest possible way to handle that but still.
  8012. 2016-01-29 19:50:47     n-tech  It's not going to
  8013. 2016-01-29 19:50:55     n-tech  You've known me for a fucking year, I'm the laziest sheep dog ever
  8014. 2016-01-29 19:51:00     copypaste       i still plan to release all my changes. minor things like ads, i don't really care if they're closed. they really even should be, rqi can't code lol.
  8015. 2016-01-29 19:51:04     copypaste       proably full of holes.
  8016. 2016-01-29 19:51:04     n-tech  I've never once done anything out of contempt, even this week
  8017. 2016-01-29 19:51:08     n-tech  while you've been raising an army against me
  8018. 2016-01-29 19:51:14     n-tech  I've been on the defensive
  8019. 2016-01-29 19:51:17     n-tech  Where's my @medium article
  8020. 2016-01-29 19:51:25     n-tech  it doesn't exist because that's not my MO
  8021. 2016-01-29 19:51:28     n-tech  and you know that
  8022. 2016-01-29 19:52:15     n-tech  I'm not against
  8023. 2016-01-29 19:52:18     n-tech  8chan running next
  8024. 2016-01-29 19:52:20     n-tech  I'm not against Jim
  8025. 2016-01-29 19:52:23     n-tech  I'm not against making money
  8026. 2016-01-29 19:52:26     n-tech  I'm not against a closed source
  8027. 2016-01-29 19:52:53     n-tech  what I'm against is this blatant attempt to seize my work and undersell me a license on a threat
  8028. 2016-01-29 19:52:58     n-tech  I'd want like, actual compensation
  8029. 2016-01-29 19:53:01     copypaste       then why don't you just relicense and let 2ch have a chance of fixing it?
  8030. 2016-01-29 19:53:10     n-tech  Because I want actual compensation for my work
  8031. 2016-01-29 19:53:14     copypaste       you got your $12000, $2500 from me alone.
  8032. 2016-01-29 19:53:28     copypaste       and you didn't know your price, you hadn't even thought of it at all
  8033. 2016-01-29 19:53:35     n-tech  Because you gave me no time!
  8034. 2016-01-29 19:53:40     n-tech  I said I was going to talk to people and figure out a price
  8035. 2016-01-29 19:53:44     copypaste       you had ever since the coffee shop meeting
  8036. 2016-01-29 19:54:05     n-tech  But Jim wanted to buy it outright, I assumed he never wanted to talk to me again
  8037. 2016-01-29 19:54:11     n-tech  probably because he told you he never wanted to talk to me again
  8038. 2016-01-29 19:54:18     copypaste       that was deal #1, which included a salary
  8039. 2016-01-29 19:54:20     copypaste       way different
  8040. 2016-01-29 19:54:33     n-tech  But deal #1 ended up in him threatening to close down the entire site (actually, claiming he did)
  8041. 2016-01-29 19:54:42     n-tech  and storming out and telling you later he never wants to hear from me again
  8042. 2016-01-29 19:54:50     n-tech  Why would I spend my days thinking of a pitch from Jim?
  8043. 2016-01-29 19:54:52     n-tech  You HAVE your project
  8044. 2016-01-29 19:54:54     n-tech  you HAVE your code
  8045. 2016-01-29 19:54:58     n-tech  it's right fucking there with a license you chose
  8046. 2016-01-29 19:54:59     copypaste       since he'd be paying you 100k PHP -monthly- plus rent, i don't know why you didn't take this deal ...
  8047. 2016-01-29 19:55:03     copypaste       it was a good one. that's alot of money
  8048. 2016-01-29 19:55:06     n-tech  BECAUSE YOU TOLD ME NOT TO
  8049. 2016-01-29 19:55:13     n-tech  you literally said to not take it
  8050. 2016-01-29 19:55:20     copypaste       i don't recall that
  8051. 2016-01-29 19:55:21     n-tech  that's why he did the Emperor Palpatine CLOSE DOWN 8CHAN thing
  8052. 2016-01-29 19:55:23     n-tech  yessir mate
  8053. 2016-01-29 19:55:27     n-tech  he brought up security issues
  8054. 2016-01-29 19:55:33     n-tech  and we both told him, this 20 year veteran in the industry
  8055. 2016-01-29 19:55:35     copypaste       oh yes, that pissed me off
  8056. 2016-01-29 19:55:38     n-tech  closed source projects do not have risks
  8057. 2016-01-29 19:55:44     n-tech  and then he said like
  8058. 2016-01-29 19:55:49     n-tech  I thought you owned it? to you
  8059. 2016-01-29 19:55:54     n-tech  because he thought you paid for all of it
  8060. 2016-01-29 19:55:59     n-tech  and then that wasn't the case and you told me
  8061. 2016-01-29 19:56:07     n-tech  not to take the proprietary license agreement that closed the source and gave it to Jim
  8062. 2016-01-29 19:56:10     n-tech  and I told him I couldn't
  8063. 2016-01-29 19:56:12     n-tech  even if I wanted to
  8064. 2016-01-29 19:56:16     n-tech  because the crowdfunding promise
  8065. 2016-01-29 19:56:18     n-tech  the only real promise  gave
  8066. 2016-01-29 19:56:22     n-tech  was that it'd be open source
  8067. 2016-01-29 19:56:26     n-tech  Out of all the legal talk
  8068. 2016-01-29 19:56:30     n-tech  The only thing truly illegal for me here
  8069. 2016-01-29 19:56:33     n-tech  would be to close the source
  8070. 2016-01-29 19:56:34     copypaste       yes, i didn't want it totally closed, which is what his agreement was
  8071. 2016-01-29 19:56:42     copypaste       but GPL isn't totally closed
  8072. 2016-01-29 19:56:45     n-tech  but his second agreement had no price tag
  8073. 2016-01-29 19:56:47     n-tech  If Jim had said
  8074. 2016-01-29 19:56:51     n-tech  GPL, 3000, living expenses
  8075. 2016-01-29 19:56:53     n-tech  I'd of been sold
  8076. 2016-01-29 19:56:54     n-tech  IN FACT
  8077. 2016-01-29 19:56:57     n-tech  I OFFERED HIM A SUBLICENSE
  8078. 2016-01-29 19:57:00     n-tech  THAT DID EXACTLY THAT
  8079. 2016-01-29 19:57:03     n-tech  and he rejected
  8080. 2016-01-29 19:57:04     n-tech  and clarified
  8081. 2016-01-29 19:57:07     n-tech  closed source
  8082. 2016-01-29 19:57:08     n-tech  he owns it
  8083. 2016-01-29 19:57:11     n-tech  I had no wiggle room at all
  8084. 2016-01-29 19:57:17     copypaste       both ron and i had to talk to him after this
  8085. 2016-01-29 19:57:28     copypaste       you know how it goes. he went in there with limited info
  8086. 2016-01-29 19:57:38     n-tech  Give it a month
  8087. 2016-01-29 19:57:58     n-tech  And I'm not going to stop because I'm a weirdo
  8088. 2016-01-29 19:58:18     n-tech  this is really bad right now. I'll deal with it. I'll keep my stupid little forum up and I'll work with my new financier about getting Next live on another site
  8089. 2016-01-29 19:58:24     n-tech  and will continue to work on it because that's what I do
  8090. 2016-01-29 19:58:27     n-tech  and in a month
  8091. 2016-01-29 19:58:32     n-tech  we'll talk about a price
  8092. 2016-01-29 19:58:36     copypaste       jim has his faults but he can be reasoned with.
  8093. 2016-01-29 19:58:57     copypaste       listen josh. i understand what you're doing but it's far too late. please talk to jim alone about a price, i can't spend any more good will or donor money on this
  8094. 2016-01-29 19:59:00     copypaste       jim has his own money
  8095. 2016-01-29 19:59:02     copypaste       and he can spend it
  8096. 2016-01-29 19:59:07     copypaste       so really, you need to be talking to him right now.
  8097. 2016-01-29 19:59:09     n-tech  Tell Ron I'm not mad at him either and I think he's chill as fuck
  8098. 2016-01-29 19:59:17     n-tech  Like I was just really beaten down and I couldn't handle the big O memeing
  8099. 2016-01-29 19:59:32     copypaste       coulda just said that you know
  8100. 2016-01-29 19:59:42     copypaste       "hey man, i've been up for like a week straight and i can't absorb new info right now"
  8101. 2016-01-29 19:59:46     copypaste       "can we do this another time?"
  8102. 2016-01-29 19:59:54     n-tech  yea but I'm not a sly guy like that
  8103. 2016-01-29 20:00:05     n-tech  if OdiliTime was involved like 4 months ago
  8104. 2016-01-29 20:00:08     n-tech  this would be a lot better off
  8105. 2016-01-29 20:00:38     copypaste       by the time a month is up now, 8chan will have a permanent plan. that's why i gave you 24 hours.
  8106. 2016-01-29 20:00:49     copypaste       i wanted things done quick, so i could get resolution
  8107. 2016-01-29 20:00:53     copypaste       and know what was going to happen
  8108. 2016-01-29 20:01:09     n-tech  I can't make critical decisions for a year's worth of work in a day
  8109. 2016-01-29 20:01:15     n-tech  and not to mention you didn't actually give me a full day
  8110. 2016-01-29 20:01:21     n-tech  Between the "one other thing" message
  8111. 2016-01-29 20:01:22     copypaste       you rejected my offer
  8112. 2016-01-29 20:01:23     n-tech  and the @medium hitpiece
  8113. 2016-01-29 20:01:26     n-tech  like 12 hours transpired
  8114. 2016-01-29 20:01:30     copypaste       or at least i took it that way
  8115. 2016-01-29 20:01:30     n-tech  I did
  8116. 2016-01-29 20:01:39     n-tech  I rejected your $100 one time and blackmail offer
  8117. 2016-01-29 20:01:43     n-tech  and I said I wanted to consult people
  8118. 2016-01-29 20:01:53     n-tech  and you took no time to make sure that everything was damaged beyond repair
  8119. 2016-01-29 20:02:33     copypaste       i should tell you i've decided to go forwards with lynxchan...
  8120. 2016-01-29 20:02:39     copypaste       it's MIT. jim approves.
  8121. 2016-01-29 20:02:48     n-tech  Might as well, Lynx works 4free
  8122. 2016-01-29 20:02:50     copypaste       there is no month. we're not saving next
  8123. 2016-01-29 20:03:03     n-tech  Yea, that's a sound strategy given the circumstances
  8124. 2016-01-29 20:03:04     copypaste       you can try contacting jim in a month, jim@racequeen.ph ads@8ch.net uhh
  8125. 2016-01-29 20:03:06     copypaste       he has lots of emails
  8126. 2016-01-29 20:03:22     n-tech  To be honest, I'm glad it's not going to work out
  8127. 2016-01-29 20:03:26     n-tech  Because I never want to deal with Jim again
  8128. 2016-01-29 20:03:43     n-tech  If he accepted something like $5000/yr annual proprietary sublicense
  8129. 2016-01-29 20:03:46     n-tech  I'd have to deal with him
  8130. 2016-01-29 20:03:48     n-tech  and provide support
  8131. 2016-01-29 20:03:58     n-tech  and i just dont want to
  8132. 2016-01-29 20:04:09     copypaste       but i'm just telling you, the only deal i can make with you is you do a GPL fork in exchange for peace because i still think that by you not letting 2ch fix it you basically ruined its chances
  8133. 2016-01-29 20:04:28     n-tech  I don't care. The offer isn't good enough now because I know that Jim is doing seedy shit with the code
  8134. 2016-01-29 20:04:29     copypaste       he doesn't want to pay you, and neither do i. if he asked my opinion it would be "reject that".
  8135. 2016-01-29 20:04:33     copypaste       we don't need your support josh.
  8136. 2016-01-29 20:04:34     n-tech  and that's why he wants it GPL and closed for 8chan
  8137. 2016-01-29 20:05:01     copypaste       i don't think you quite understand what i meant about two sets of books. the "seedy shit" would all be invisible
  8138. 2016-01-29 20:05:09     copypaste       he just doesn't want to be forced to open source everything forever
  8139. 2016-01-29 20:05:12     copypaste       i see his POV
  8140. 2016-01-29 20:05:16     n-tech  I understand fully, it would be GPL and Free
  8141. 2016-01-29 20:05:25     copypaste       do you?
  8142. 2016-01-29 20:05:27     n-tech  and then NTTech would have a fork with Jim's stuff
  8143. 2016-01-29 20:05:30     n-tech  that's private
  8144. 2016-01-29 20:05:31     copypaste       because that can also be done with AGPL.
  8145. 2016-01-29 20:05:44     copypaste       if it's invisible, no court can prove that the source he gave you isn't the real one
  8146. 2016-01-29 20:05:44     n-tech  No it can't, because if he uses a fork with the live website
  8147. 2016-01-29 20:05:50     copypaste       and no court can force a search of the server
  8148. 2016-01-29 20:06:03     n-tech  then why does he want it GPL?
  8149. 2016-01-29 20:06:06     copypaste       it would be an interesting case actually. but i'm quite confident in this
  8150. 2016-01-29 20:06:16     copypaste       just so we don't have to have that case. no court will understand this
  8151. 2016-01-29 20:06:16     n-tech  If I saw features that weren't visible in the code base
  8152. 2016-01-29 20:06:23     n-tech  that'd be proof of violation
  8153. 2016-01-29 20:06:26     copypaste       "seedy siht" wouldn't be visible.
  8154. 2016-01-29 20:06:33     copypaste       unless they made a mistake.
  8155. 2016-01-29 20:06:37     n-tech  but it also wouldn't be legal
  8156. 2016-01-29 20:06:43     n-tech  so you'd have to break the law to do seedy shit
  8157. 2016-01-29 20:06:49     n-tech  which is then illegal seedy shit
  8158. 2016-01-29 20:06:53     n-tech  so I understand fully why he doesn't want that
  8159. 2016-01-29 20:07:24     copypaste       i don't think he's all bad. he just wants to easily hack in things like ads. i see both viewpoints
  8160. 2016-01-29 20:08:18     n-tech  I do too, I empathize. 8ch is a money sink.
  8161. 2016-01-29 20:08:28     n-tech  My offer is $5000/yr proprietary fork for one public facing domain.
  8162. 2016-01-29 20:08:40     n-tech  No commitment to upstream changes, no open source, no requirements.
  8163. 2016-01-29 20:09:08     copypaste       i'll let him know, but now that we've tested lynxchan, lol. and i also just fixed vichan....and we learned we can create merge tables in mysql, effectively fixing the "many tables" issue...
  8164. 2016-01-29 20:09:22     n-tech  I understand. That's fine.
  8165. 2016-01-29 20:09:30     n-tech  If he laughs at the offer it's less for me to worry about.
  8166. 2016-01-29 20:09:31     copypaste       he won't agree. you can make it right with me by making a GPL fork, but we probably won't even use it.
  8167. 2016-01-29 20:09:32     n-tech  Money's overrated.
  8168. 2016-01-29 20:09:46     copypaste       if you don't want to make it right with me, that's also fine.
  8169. 2016-01-29 20:09:50     copypaste       i don't really care. it's your problem.
  8170. 2016-01-29 20:09:56     n-tech  You picked this license mate.
  8171. 2016-01-29 20:10:02     n-tech  You protected my rights
  8172. 2016-01-29 20:10:09     n-tech  You looked out for me and gave me something nobody could take away
  8173. 2016-01-29 20:10:12     n-tech  because at the time
  8174. 2016-01-29 20:10:15     n-tech  me was 8chan
  8175. 2016-01-29 20:10:17     n-tech  and my interested were 8chans
  8176. 2016-01-29 20:10:20     n-tech  and now that that's unwound
  8177. 2016-01-29 20:10:28     n-tech  you're feeling what you intended 4chan to feel if they were going to try this
  8178. 2016-01-29 20:10:33     n-tech  so I can't really sympathize
  8179. 2016-01-29 20:10:36     n-tech  I did everything I said I would
  8180. 2016-01-29 20:10:53     copypaste       if you fix it independently, that's also making it right by me.
  8181. 2016-01-29 20:10:55     copypaste       two ways.
  8182. 2016-01-29 20:11:04     copypaste       we might never use it, but at least you did what you said you would.
  8183. 2016-01-29 20:11:04     n-tech  I'm going to do that anyways because I want to do what I was talking about
  8184. 2016-01-29 20:11:09     n-tech  I'm going to get this working with NNTPchan
  8185. 2016-01-29 20:11:14     copypaste       you either fix it or you accept third party help which means accepting GPL
  8186. 2016-01-29 20:11:18     copypaste       which i -know- is a compromise.
  8187. 2016-01-29 20:11:31     copypaste       if you can fix it, it's also right by me. you can take that to the bank.
  8188. 2016-01-29 20:12:13     copypaste       and i can be happy, knowing that i helped support an easy to install IB, even though the guy who makes it hates me and we never used it on the site i founded
  8189. 2016-01-29 20:12:14     n-tech  well i mean
  8190. 2016-01-29 20:12:16     n-tech  it's pretty fixed ..
  8191. 2016-01-29 20:12:25     n-tech  I don't hate people dude
  8192. 2016-01-29 20:12:29     n-tech  I don't even have /cow/ or whatever
  8193. 2016-01-29 20:12:35     n-tech  I'm too dopey to bother hating people
  8194. 2016-01-29 20:12:42     n-tech  It's a waste of my few cpu cycles
  8195. 2016-01-29 20:13:02     copypaste       i still believe in your rights. i just wish you would have compromised to let them fix it, because i don't think you can
  8196. 2016-01-29 20:13:07     copypaste       but you can prove me wrong.
  8197. 2016-01-29 20:13:10     n-tech  like on one hand im almost glad you reacted this way, because like
  8198. 2016-01-29 20:13:19     n-tech  it's the first time i saw you give a fuck about 8chan in a year
  8199. 2016-01-29 20:13:43     copypaste       yes, it really lit a fire. i think most of my sickness was depression. i didn't really know what was wrong with me.
  8200. 2016-01-29 20:13:47     copypaste       and i don't believe in things like depression
  8201. 2016-01-29 20:14:21     copypaste       people are telling me all sorts of tihngs that happened in those 8 months. it's incredible how much i missed
  8202. 2016-01-29 20:15:35     copypaste       it's possible that vfec, redis, and lynxchan all will fail. but it's really unlikely.
  8203. 2016-01-29 20:15:59     n-tech  well, with financial backing and help from RQI it's unlikely for a reason.
  8204. 2016-01-29 20:16:09     n-tech  Jim wants 8chan to succeed because he wants to kill 4chan and ruin Hiroyuki's investment.
  8205. 2016-01-29 20:16:17     n-tech  There's reason for him to care now, and since Jim cares you care.
  8206. 2016-01-29 20:16:27     n-tech  And you can put everything behind you with a conveniently timed scapegoat.
  8207. 2016-01-29 20:16:32     n-tech  This is a very good 2016.
  8208. 2016-01-29 20:17:02     copypaste       i should have given you more time to decide. i was just so angry
  8209. 2016-01-29 20:17:11     n-tech  At what?
  8210. 2016-01-29 20:17:17     n-tech  I still don't get that
  8211. 2016-01-29 20:17:23     copypaste       that you wouldn't compromise and let them bail you out
  8212. 2016-01-29 20:17:50     n-tech  I would have, but I wanted a fairer deal. If you hadn't of come at me with legal threats and blackmail I'd have just told you that
  8213. 2016-01-29 20:17:55     n-tech  but I know that you handle threats by being quiet.
  8214. 2016-01-29 20:18:11     n-tech  At that point anything I said was a liability
  8215. 2016-01-29 20:18:29     n-tech  It's scary when you have a millionaire and the entire Internet after you
  8216. 2016-01-29 20:18:33     n-tech  Sometimes it's better just to shut up.
  8217. 2016-01-29 20:19:04     copypaste       good luck with the chinese chan. i mean this seriously, because i don't think you have much left
  8218. 2016-01-29 20:19:14     copypaste       i don't hate you. i have things to work on now though
  8219. 2016-01-29 20:19:42     n-tech  I make my own luck
  8220. 2016-01-29 20:19:46     n-tech  :::---DDD
  8221. 2016-01-29 20:20:13     n-tech  I was going to stream my story but at this point I don't care. It doesn't even matter.
  8222. 2016-01-29 20:20:16     n-tech  Nobody's going to listen
  8223. 2016-01-29 20:20:40     copypaste       i will have a reply to anything you can say, and i still have a lot of shit i never plan to release that /cow/ would like.
  8224. 2016-01-29 20:20:50     copypaste       you don't see it but i went easy on you in my eyes
  8225. 2016-01-29 20:21:14     n-tech  So I was told
  8226. 2016-01-29 20:21:19     n-tech  I didn't read the article or listen to the stream.
  8227. 2016-01-29 20:21:33     n-tech  Anything there I already knew, and anything about me was designed to instigate a reaction from me.
  8228. 2016-01-29 20:22:33     n-tech  mm, Obamatron found my old job
  8229. 2016-01-29 20:22:41     n-tech  and he's trying to get people to harass my employers from a year ago
  8230. 2016-01-29 20:22:44     n-tech  there goes that reference
  8231. 2016-01-29 20:22:47     n-tech  ttss.
  8232. 2016-01-29 20:30:03     copypaste       do you like aqua teen hunger force
  8233. 2016-01-29 20:30:16     copypaste       i've been doing the pomodoro method, and the episodes are 11 minutes long
  8234. 2016-01-29 20:30:18     n-tech  i haven't seen TV in years but when I did I watched it, ye
  8235. 2016-01-29 20:30:21     copypaste       it makes for a good break period
  8236. 2016-01-29 20:30:50     copypaste       i like cartoons, and i finally decided to watch the show that the carl maymay people post on 8chan is from
  8237. 2016-01-29 20:30:55     copypaste       i'm not disappointed
  8238. 2016-01-29 20:31:20     copypaste       meatwad make the money see
  8239. 2016-01-29 20:31:25     copypaste       meatwad get the honies G
  8240. 2016-01-29 20:31:28     copypaste       i don't know why that's so funny
  8241. 2016-01-29 20:31:28     n-tech  she
  8242. 2016-01-29 20:31:31     n-tech  I think
  8243. 2016-01-29 20:31:36     copypaste       oh you might be right
  8244. 2016-01-29 20:31:42     copypaste       i thought it was she too
  8245. 2016-01-29 20:31:46     copypaste       but their wikia article says "G"
  8246. 2016-01-29 20:31:49     n-tech  meatwad is a beautiful grill don't hate
  8247. 2016-01-29 20:31:57     copypaste       http://aqua-teen-hunger-force.wikia.com/wiki/Theme_Song
  8248. 2016-01-29 20:32:37     copypaste       are you planning on leaving the country?
  8249. 2016-01-29 20:32:45     n-tech  yes
  8250. 2016-01-29 20:32:47     copypaste       i mean i don't see how you'll stay here with no income
  8251. 2016-01-29 20:32:49     copypaste       yeah i figured
  8252. 2016-01-29 20:32:55     copypaste       also you gotta admit you don't fit in like i do here
  8253. 2016-01-29 20:33:06     n-tech  I don't fit in anywhere, that's why it didn't bother me
  8254. 2016-01-29 20:33:13     n-tech  I did like Japan
  8255. 2016-01-29 20:35:00     n-tech  if you like old crude adult swim shows with catch intros
  8256. 2016-01-29 20:35:03     n-tech  look up Sealab 2021
  8257. 2016-01-29 20:35:07     n-tech  it is a fucking masterpiece
  8258. 2016-01-29 20:35:22     n-tech  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puEXCyqkEKA
  8259. 2016-01-29 20:36:07     copypaste       oh yeah haha i watched this before
  8260. 2016-01-29 20:40:50     n-tech  What was the problem with board_stats?
  8261. 2016-01-29 20:41:19     copypaste       i haven't quite figured it out yet, but insert queries take much longer on large tables
  8262. 2016-01-29 20:41:31     n-tech  That's bizarre
  8263. 2016-01-29 20:41:37     n-tech  I was double checking the indexes but it seems in order
  8264. 2016-01-29 20:41:39     copypaste       selects work fine though, so no one ever noticed because boards.php kept on chugging
  8265. 2016-01-29 20:41:53     n-tech  But even then, board_stats doesn't get new rows except like
  8266. 2016-01-29 20:42:01     n-tech  once per hour per board
  8267. 2016-01-29 20:42:09     n-tech  Is the issue that the site's cron job stacked?
  8268. 2016-01-29 20:42:12     copypaste       they're updated every post though
  8269. 2016-01-29 20:42:17     n-tech  what?
  8270. 2016-01-29 20:42:23     n-tech  shit
  8271. 2016-01-29 20:42:25     copypaste       insert/update is the issue
  8272. 2016-01-29 20:42:29     copypaste       yeah
  8273. 2016-01-29 20:42:37     copypaste       update deserializes, appends, reserializes
  8274. 2016-01-29 20:42:42     n-tech  ohhh
  8275. 2016-01-29 20:42:44     copypaste       insert isn't as noticeable as update in our case
  8276. 2016-01-29 20:42:50     n-tech  yeah that would be slow as fuck and vulnerable to race conditions
  8277. 2016-01-29 20:42:52     copypaste       i explained it a bit wrong i suppose c:
  8278. 2016-01-29 20:43:03     n-tech  i thought it was a problem with indexing
  8279. 2016-01-29 20:43:10     copypaste       yup...
  8280. 2016-01-29 20:43:30     copypaste       its okay, litereally no one saw this until mysql decided it was done touching that table totally
  8281. 2016-01-29 20:43:39     copypaste       and then i went into "wait, why was it board_stats in particular"
  8282. 2016-01-29 20:43:41     copypaste       and then i found the bug
  8283. 2016-01-30 08:57:49     <<      n-tech (~n-tech@56E6ED17:2E383ACB:9A9D32F5:IP) has quit (*.net *.split)
  8284. 2016-01-30 08:57:50     >>      n-tech (~n-tech@56E6ED17:2E383ACB:9A9D32F5:IP) is back on server

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